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2009 Formula One

113 durable postsStarted 2009-02-23Latest 2009-08-30
#1190525Post 41 of 113

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[quote=MJ;728326]It's remarkable that a team that was on the brink of folding in the closed season now find themselves on pole for the first race of the season. With the backing of Richard Branson's Virgin empire and Ross Brawn in charge of the team things look very rosy at the moment.

It seem Mclaren's pre qualifying talk of no pace was not mind games after all.[/quote]

exactly my thoughts.

Being new to the F1 world, I have never heard of Brawn to begin with, so i'm excited to see how thier shit turns out tomorrow.

#1190612Post 42 of 113

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^^^me either, but I am from America and I think it's an English team.

#1190619Post 43 of 113

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im hoping they fuck up :)

#1190626Post 44 of 113

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I watched the Practice session last night and heard them referring to an American team to be unveiled next season... am i right?

That certainly is WAY overdo.

#1190696Post 45 of 113

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You can download the qualifying [URL="http://www.rslinks.org/node/16338/"]HERE[/URL]

#1190774Post 46 of 113

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Seeing Ferrari and McLaren down that far in Qualifying is just hilarious and sweet Gold for me.

It is about time some new teams get some Championships.

#1190801Post 47 of 113

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[quote=ddr;728683]Seeing Ferrari and McLaren down that far in Qualifying is just hilarious and sweet Gold for me. [/quote]

Yeah it does make it look like its all about the car and little about the driver.

#1190809Post 48 of 113

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[IMG]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45612000/jpg/_45612861_buttongettybody466.jpg[/IMG]

Excellent race!

#1190817Post 49 of 113

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Good first race... bring on season '09

#1190904Post 50 of 113

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holy shitballs. Dark horses outa nowhere.

This MAY be the start of an amazing season.

two questions.

  1. how come Bernie is quick to remove all F1-related content off youtube? What is his fucking problem? Doesn't he know the power of youtube? Why does F1 not have its own channel?

  2. Anyone know how I can stream this live or, alternatively, stream a recording of the race? I know based on the facts behind question 1 that it is not likely that there would be an avenue to do so. however, being that the F1 wont even touch north america this year, I'm trying to get my fix some way or another at this point....

#1190940Post 51 of 113

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[quote=Mariner1;728835]holy shitballs. Dark horses outa nowhere.

This MAY be the start of an amazing season.

two questions.

  1. how come Bernie is quick to remove all F1-related content off youtube? What is his fucking problem? Doesn't he know the power of youtube? Why does F1 not have its own channel?[/quote]

Because there's no money in it for the management of F1 - their huge income comes entirely from its viewing rights - as an example, the BBC i believe have paid something like 15 million pounds for a number of years - calculate that with all the countries that carry the race and you have mega mega mega money.

Carrying clips or the whole race on youtube will hit his profits.

[quote=Mariner1;728835]2. Anyone know how I can stream this live or, alternatively, stream a recording of the race? I know based on the facts behind question 1 that it is not likely that there would be an avenue to do so. however, being that the F1 wont even touch north america this year, I'm trying to get my fix some way or another at this point....[/quote]

If you are in the UK try the BBC iPlayer, if not try downloading a torrent from somewhere like mininova.org (search F1)

#1190948Post 52 of 113

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Really good race - happy for Jenson and Ruben.

highlights on BBC [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport[/URL]

What on earth were Vettel and Kubica playing at ? ... silly boys.

#1190972Post 53 of 113

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^^ As far as I know that is only available to the British.

a 1 2 for Brawn GP, who would ever have thought that a couple of months ago? It's unbelievable.

I will get some links to the race as soon as I can find some.

#1190995Post 54 of 113

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Amd the Trojan's BONER of the week goes to Robert Kubica for trying that stupid move, and ruining his and Vettel's races within 3, count 3 laps to go. What an ass!

#1191055Post 55 of 113

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This is not my upload so I take no credit for it. This is the full race as far as I know.

[QUOTE][url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215034805/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part01.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215034973/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part02.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037467/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part03.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215035031/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part04.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037377/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part05.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215035330/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part06.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037394/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part07.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215034953/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part08.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037456/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part09.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215035177/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part10.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215035160/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part11.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215035279/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part12.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037312/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part13.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215037327/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part14.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/215036554/F1.09.R1.AUS.RACE.part15.rar[/url][/QUOTE]

Pass: ivan@rslinks

Lewis Hamilton was promoted to third as Trulli was given a 25 second penalty for overtaking under safety car regulations.

#1191070Post 56 of 113

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[QUOTE=jeffrey collins;728937]Amd the Trojan's BONER of the week goes to Robert Kubica for trying that stupid move, and ruining his and Vettel's races within 3, count 3 laps to go. What an ass![/QUOTE]

The stewards have deemed it was Vittels fault and demoted him 10 places for next weeks Malaysian Grand Prix. Personally I think it was 50/50, Vittell went in too deep into turn 1 which allowed Kubica to get along side him on the following straight. Then with Vittel carrying a lot of speed into the next corner he was unable to avoid Kubica, who in fairness could have given him a bit more room.

#1191073Post 57 of 113

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[quote=jeffrey collins;728937]Amd the Trojan's BONER of the week goes to Robert Kubica for trying that stupid move, and ruining his and Vettel's races within 3, count 3 laps to go. What an ass![/quote]

Yup. Majorly disapointed with Kubica myself. Guy couldn't give Vettel 3 feet on that turn?! What a douche... just might have ruined my rooting for BMW this year.

Yea, it was a decent race but poor ending and I blame that 100% on Kubica.

@ Mariner1, I am in the USA and I watch it on Speed channel. Most mid-level cable/dish programs have it included.

If not, gotta get it via torrent and watch it a couple of days after it has aired.

[quote=MJ;729019]Then with Vittel carrying a lot of speed into the next corner he was unable to avoid Kubica, who in fairness could have given him a bit more room.[/quote]

exactly my point. Kubica turned right into him. If he bothered to look into his mirrors (or 90 degrees right) he would of seen Vettel was still there.

Regardless, there was 3? laps left.. considering the track temp. and that Vettel was on soft, while Kubica was on hard... Vettel had no chance in keeping second.

In my opinion, it was Kubica's fault for wanting second at that point and not waiting a couple of more turns.

#1191081Post 58 of 113

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[quote=MJ;729019]Then with Vittel carrying a lot of speed into the next corner he was unable to avoid Kubica, who in fairness could have given him a bit more room.[/quote]

Not only that, but the BMW was all over the RB - and if he wouldn't have passed him there he would have moments later.

Whilst it looks 50/50 - I think Kubica with the better handling car could have got out of Vettels way.

Either way, thank god - other wise I doubt very much whether Jense had enough in him to hold of the BMW,

As someone who's been following Jense since his first Williams race, I have to admit to having a tear in my eye seeing Jense finally on the top spot.

Cant wait till next week

#1191113Post 59 of 113

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[quote=Mariner1;728835] 2. Anyone know how I can stream this live or, alternatively, stream a recording of the race? I know based on the facts behind question 1 that it is not likely that there would be an avenue to do so. however, being that the F1 wont even touch north america this year, I'm trying to get my fix some way or another at this point....[/quote]

I found a stream through tvunetworks.com.

Amazing race, Hamilton did well, 18th to 3rd!? Regardless of how shite his car is this year that performance showed he has learned from last season and can hopefully be a bit more patient.

Brawn 1,2 - now thats a result. Richard Branson hit the nail on the head.

#1191212Post 60 of 113

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[QUOTE=Progboy Tam;729064]I found a stream through tvunetworks.com.[/QUOTE]

Off topic, how good are the streams and can you get football on Saturday afternoons?

#1191332Post 61 of 113

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[quote=MJ;729181]Off topic, how good are the streams and can you get football on Saturday afternoons?[/quote]

I started a thread on this a couple of months back ;) :

[URL]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63735[/URL]

also try

[URL]http://www.iraqgoals.net/[/URL]

#1192342Post 62 of 113

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After race stewards meet in Sepang to review the Hamilton/Truilli incident at the end of the Melbourne GP, Lewis Hamilton was disqualified from the Australian GP after it was found that [URL="http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45424"]Hamilton and McLaren had provided 'deliberately misleading' evidence to the stewards in Australia.[/URL]

This is consistent with the stance that Truilli had taken since last weekends race.

#1192384Post 63 of 113

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[quote=davetlv;730441]After race stewards meet in Sepang to review the Hamilton/Truilli incident at the end of the Melbourne GP, Lewis Hamilton was disqualified from the Australian GP after it was found that [URL="http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45424"]Hamilton and McLaren had provided 'deliberately misleading' evidence to the stewards in Australia.[/URL]

This is consistent with the stance that Truilli had taken since last weekends race.[/quote]

:shock: Hamilon provided 'deliberately misleading' evidence I don't believe it. I'm sure Ron Dennis had it all sorted on the imaginary radio during the race.

#1192410Post 64 of 113

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The FIA has published the key evidence that led to Lewis Hamilton’s disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix – including audio recordings that reveal he was instructed to let Jarno Trulli pass him.

[COLOR=Red]Trulli was penalised after the race for illegally overtaking Hamilton under safety car conditions, but the stewards rescinded that penalty when they reconvened in Malaysia on Thursday after finding that Hamilton had allowed the Toyota driver past.[/COLOR]

The stewards excluded Hamilton from the results on the basis that he and McLaren had given them a “deliberately misleading” account of events.

McLaren subsequently apologised for the confusion it had caused but stressed that it had not intentionally misled the stewards.

The team said it had not mentioned its radio exchanges with Hamilton at the post-race hearing in the mistaken belief that the FIA had already reviewed them.

However, the latest statement published by the FIA summarising the stewards’ reasons disputes that explanation.

It says Hamilton and McLaren team manager Dave Ryan explicitly denied that any instruction was given to let Trulli past.

[COLOR=Red]The recording of the radio transmissions reveals that Hamilton was told to cede the place back to Trulli and quickly responded to the instruction – although McLaren continued to seek clarification of the situation from FIA race director Charlie Whiting and Hamilton asked whether he would be able to repass the Toyota.

A second audio recording confirms that Hamilton told journalists immediately after the race – before the stewards’ meeting – that he had been told to let Trulli through.[/COLOR]

The statement said: “During the hearing, held approximately one hour after the end of the race, the stewards and the race director questioned Lewis Hamilton and his team manager David Ryan specifically about whether there had been an instruction given to Hamilton to allow Trulli to overtake.

“Both the driver and the team manager stated that no such instruction had been given.

“The race director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so.

“The new elements presented to the stewards several days after the 2009 Australian Grand Prix which led to the reconvened stewards’ meeting clearly show that:

[COLOR=Red]“a) Immediately after the race and before Lewis Hamilton attended the stewards’ Meeting he gave an interview to the media where he clearly stated that the team had told him to let Trulli pass

“b) Furthermore, the radio exchanges between the driver and the team contain two explicit orders from the team to let the Toyota pass.[/COLOR]

“The stewards, having learned about the radio exchanges and the media interview, felt strongly that they had been misled by the driver and his team manager which led to Jarno Trulli being unfairly penalised and Lewis Hamilton gaining third place.”

[URL="http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45434"]Source[/URL] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT]

#1192478Post 65 of 113

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WOAH. WOW this REALLY is going to be an interesting season.

#1192510Post 66 of 113

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wow, that is very interesting.

pretty sad that teams are still keeping back information in order to gain a few points.

#1193136Post 67 of 113

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Button on pole again, it's all a bit surreal.

#1193162Post 68 of 113

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[quote=MJ;731345]Button on pole again, it's all a bit surreal.[/quote]

Been on that acid again MJ?

Button was well on form this morning; shame about Ferrari and McLaren . . . . . . . . .

But considering they are expecting rain during the race - anything can happen.

#1193235Post 69 of 113

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It's weird seeing the top teams from last year qualifying in the middle of the grid and the likes of Button, who had an awful season last year, sitting proudly on poll. I couldn't ask for more though, a British team and a British driver.

I'm still a bit nervous as to how the 'defuser' saga is going to pan out. If they find what Brawn and a few others are using is illegal they could take all their points away.

#1193242Post 70 of 113

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Qualifying can be had here

[QUOTE][url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217264123/2009_Round_02_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_FP3_x264_BBCi.part1.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217282092/2009_Round_02_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_FP3_x264_BBCi.part2.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217299775/2009_Round_02_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_FP3_x264_BBCi.part3.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217316729/2009_Round_02_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_FP3_x264_BBCi.part4.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217333747/2009_Round_02_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_FP3_x264_BBCi.part5.rar[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks to whoever uploaded this.

#1193264Post 71 of 113

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[quote=MJ;731450]It's weird seeing the top teams from last year qualifying in the middle of the grid and the likes of Button, who had an awful season last year, sitting proudly on poll. I couldn't ask for more though, a British team and a British driver.

I'm still a bit nervous as to how the 'defuser' saga is going to pan out. If they find what Brawn and a few others are using is illegal they could take all their points away.[/quote]

Considering that the FIA, through the race stewards in Melbourne, has approved the diffusers, leaves many to believe that he court will do the same.

Apparently, according to one of the pundits I was listening to this morning, the court rarely goes against the decisions of the FIA.

If Ferrari want to dispute the diffusers instead of bringing their vehicles up to scratch, so be it, but surely its better for the team to embrace the changes and move on.

As for Red Bull, Renault and BMW - certainly looking at their speeds, either with or without using Kers, I can see very little distinction in their speeds compared to Brawn, Williams and Toyota - RB are pumping out times that Williams can barely match in qualifying and the race itself - so I'm not really sure the diffuser offers all that much extra speed.

And lets be realistic, at the end of the day, these new rules and specifications were brought in to ensure that F1 moves back to fighting for positions on the track.

Whilst last weeks Vettel and Kunica crash was unfortunate for them, a faster car moving to over take for a podium position in the final laps of a race is exactly why the regs have changed this year - it made fantastic viewing.

#1193326Post 72 of 113

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[quote=davetlv;731483]Considering that the FIA, through the race stewards in Melbourne, has approved the diffusers, leaves many to believe that he court will do the same.

Apparently, according to one of the pundits I was listening to this morning, the court rarely goes against the decisions of the FIA.

If Ferrari want to dispute the diffusers instead of bringing their vehicles up to scratch, so be it, but surely its better for the team to embrace the changes and move on.

As for Red Bull, Renault and BMW - certainly looking at their speeds, either with or without using Kers, I can see very little distinction in their speeds compared to Brawn, Williams and Toyota - RB are pumping out times that Williams can barely match in qualifying and the race itself - so I'm not really sure the diffuser offers all that much extra speed.

And lets be realistic, at the end of the day, these new rules and specifications were brought in to ensure that F1 moves back to fighting for positions on the track.

Whilst last weeks Vettel and Kunica crash was unfortunate for them, a faster car moving to over take for a podium position in the final laps of a race is exactly why the regs have changed this year - it made fantastic viewing.[/quote]

Good post.

I certainly agree that the new diffusers will hold up because after all, they are in legality of the rules, and that is all that matters. This whole crap about them not being up to code because of the "meaning of the rule" is complete bullshit. If you want the rule to mean something, say it in the rule. If you leave a rule up to interpretation, this is what happens... quit crying and live with it.

Of course, Formula One have, at least in the past, been sucking Ferrari dick so anything can happen.

#1193359Post 73 of 113

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It's not raining yet, but Kimi has gone for wets :what

Martin Brundle "it's under-steering like a cross-channel ferry at the moment !" :lol:

He's 21 secs off the pace - think Ferrari may regret losing Brawn !

#1193568Post 74 of 113

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i tell ya i think that was by far the funnest race i've seen. Button going into the pits about every two to three laps and then it finally gets called on rain. What a race, it's always funny to watch guys slip sliding away.

#1193590Post 75 of 113

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An excellent race - shame about the early stop.

We got a better idea about some of the car, specifically the speed of that Red Bull - bang goes their diffuser argument.

Buttons speed just prior to his first pit stop was astronomically fast compared to the others.

Could it be 3 for 3 in China?

#1196640Post 76 of 113

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You can get the race here.

[QUOTE][url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217449495/2009_Round_02_-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part01.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217469661/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part02.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217430023/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part03.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217488075/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part04.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217504814/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part05.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217519935/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part06.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217564783/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part07.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217573219/2009_Round_02-Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part08.rar[/url] [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/217581855/2009_Round_02-_Malaysia_Grand_Prix_Qualifying_x264_BBC1.part09.rar[/url][/QUOTE]

Button qualified first with the heavier car, thats what aloud him to stay out a couple of laps more on his first stint that the others, putting in some quick times. It was a hsmae the heavens opened though, I'd like to see him win a race without being behind the safety car.

Bring on China

#1196810Post 77 of 113

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[quote=davetlv;731848]An excellent race - shame about the early stop.

We got a better idea about some of the car, specifically the speed of that Red Bull - bang goes their diffuser argument.

Buttons speed just prior to his first pit stop was astronomically fast compared to the others.

Could it be 3 for 3 in China?[/quote]

Oh yeah I thought the diffuser defiance was done when Vettel was in 2nd for most of the Aussie GP.

I am in agreement with a number of people now. That the new GP cars are better looking than the old ones. Now I look at the old ones and they look like an old GF with a fat ass. These ones look all trimmed up.

#1196911Post 78 of 113

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[quote=jeffrey collins;732229]Oh yeah I thought the diffuser defiance was done when Vettel was in 2nd for most of the Aussie GP.

I am in agreement with a number of people now. That the new GP cars are better looking than the old ones. Now I look at the old ones and they look like an old GF with a fat ass. These ones look all trimmed up.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more! the new cars are smokin' :shock:

#1197283Post 79 of 113

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I like everything about the new cars besides that fat ass front wing. It is just too big, imo =\

Bigger is not better in every situation.

Also, I am kind of missing the Earth Dreams car... such an awesome graphic last year. :(

#1198013Post 80 of 113

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McLaren may be banned...:

[URL]http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09042009/58/ecclestone-mclaren-face-ban.html[/URL]

Bernie is a poof.

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