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World Cup 2006

725 durable postsStarted 2006-05-21Latest 2006-08-02
#659194Post 361 of 725

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[QUOTE=peloquin]that was [B][SIZE="6"]fucking awful[/SIZE][/B].

joe cole, owen hargreaves, and rooney were the only players who actually played well. lampard was [B]shit[/B]. beckham was [B]shit[/B]. crouch was [B]shit[/B]. cole was [B]shit[/B]. carragher was [B]absolutely shit[/B], possibly the worst player on the pitch for me. terry was [B]shit[/B]. campbell completely fucked up on that second goal (poor defence in general but he really fucked the dog.) robinson was [B]shit[/B]. ferdinand was okay - why did he get subbed?

gerrard came on and saved us with a goalline clearance and a goal.

our corner defending was nothing less than shocking.

if, as it appears, owen is done for the WC we are in big big big big trouble, not that we may have been in less with him fit.

when we have to play a proper team, we are fucked i fear. but i'll be there cheering us on...[/QUOTE]

the second goal was Terry's fault. he mis-timed his jump for the header

#659201Post 362 of 725

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lets all hope that Brazil doesnt make it to the finals, Im sick and tired of their same shit, go Argentina

#659223Post 363 of 725

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[quote=rarcia00]lets all hope that Brazil doesnt make it to the finals, Im sick and tired of their same shit, go Argentina[/quote]

I agree.

I have family in Argentina and have been a fan of their team since I was 3 so it would be nice to see them win again.

As for the US game and the BS calls the refs made, simply put, they were a shitty team this time and given some bullshit treatment by the officiating. I wouldn't be surprised if it is due to the fact that the entire world dislikes us because of Bush. Either way, you take that penalty away and it would have been a tie and they still would be going home.

Lets start to look foward on the 2nd round. New threads need to be made for each game and single elimination makes it all that much better. ;)

#659278Post 364 of 725

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[COLOR=Orange][quote=speciale]

As for the US game and the BS calls the refs made, simply put, they were a shitty team this time and given some bullshit treatment by the officiating. I wouldn't be surprised if it is due to the fact that the entire world dislikes us because of Bush. Either way, you take that penalty away and it would have been a tie and they still would be going home.[/quote] As far as the US team's performance, I regret that their downfall was attributed to the fact that they allowed the player to stay and see their wives during the matches. You can quote me on this:

"Too much love making, makes for poor match play." - Algy

On a more serious note, I knew the US would never be a true competitor in the cup matches, but it really pleased me to see them there with the greatest. About 11 years ago I started playing soccer. In fact, out of the county in my state, I attended school out of a hand full that started to play the sport; remember, it was so new here, especially in a rural area where I grew up. The sport was so new to our country and there were allot of hurdles to conquer. I remember the frustration of knowing how to lead an offside trap, but the officials, whom primarily officiated football and baseball were clueless!

My dad wanted me to play Football, standing at 6' 3" and an even 200lbs, I stuck with soccer instead, fullback and stopper. I played in school, military (to include matches in Spain, Germany, Italy and Africa), university, corporate league and even with kids in a park while retiring to a walk with family.

I can detect much resistance with the US involvement in the Cup and world competitions. In short, I don't really care about the US winning the world in the sport, but I do care about the sport winning the US. I've been through too many strikes in Baseball, Hockey and over paid Football players that charge over $100-200 to attend a game. Our MLS players are fucking average Americans that made it by hard work and an honest commitment to the fans.

You can bash us, you can red card us, but remember there are fans of the sport like me… and who knows.. lets see what the US team looks like in 50 years after supports like me stick behind them for the long haul.

Your average American, -Algy[/COLOR]

#659324Post 365 of 725

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Is football growing more popular in the us?

#659340Post 366 of 725

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^^^ [URL="http://webmaster.zattevrienden.be/bloot221.htm"]http://webmaster.zattevrienden.be/bloot221.htm[/URL]

only with the women (come to think of it, the US team played like a bunch of dykes as well :mrgreen:)

#659363Post 367 of 725

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^^^ I like a woman who likes to play with balls. :lol:

As for the US, its over. They need to get better leadership and discipline. They have none. Maybe the next World Cup, the US wont be so hated by everyone since we will have a new president at that time.

#659437Post 368 of 725

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That Match between the aussies and croations was brilliant last night.. Happy that the Australias will be going through cause they really deserved it ;)

#659439Post 369 of 725

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was a good game alright, thankfully RTE used their heads and switched to that game as it was pointless having the brazil game on

#659560Post 370 of 725

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by the way who caught the 3 yellow cards that the croat simunic got yesterday against australia? he got one in the 62nd minute and then another one in the 90th minute and you could see everyone was waiting for the ref to give him a red card. then just to tempt the ref even further, he fouled again in the 93rd minute, getting his 3rd yellow and getting sent off the field.

cant believe something like this happens at such a level!.

by the way srna's free kick was splendid!

#659579Post 371 of 725

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^^^ that ref wont be refing any time soon

#659598Post 372 of 725

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cough cough the referee was from England. I know at least somebody who's coming home now.

#659606Post 373 of 725

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^ although im surprised there hasnt been more fuss in the media about it

#659621Post 374 of 725

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there has been a bit of a fuss.. he's pretty much definately going home... he was one of the leading candidates to ref the final too.

embarrassing stuff really... but a lot of the refs have been. on the US ghana game merk gave that penalty, and gave yellow cards far too easily, i remember 3 that shouldnt have been bookings.

#659660Post 375 of 725

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[quote=TomTom]cough cough the referee was from England. I know at least somebody who's coming home now.[/quote]

imho the team wont be far behind them, argentina i think will tear them appart, england are not performing as a team

[quote=peloquin]there has been a bit of a fuss.. he's pretty much definately going home... he was one of the leading candidates to ref the final too.

embarrassing stuff really... but a lot of the refs have been. on the US ghana game merk gave that penalty, and gave yellow cards far too easily, i remember 3 that shouldnt have been bookings.[/quote]

the media will rip the piss out of him, he probibly already packing but what got me about the whole situation was that no 1 stopped and said that this guy had alreay had a yellow card and i thought that the ref now had an earpiece connection with the fourth official etc

#659661Post 376 of 725

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[IMG]http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2006281598,00.gif[/IMG]

#659677Post 377 of 725

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come on Togo! hold the frogs to a draw!!!

edit: shit, i think i fucking jinxed them :x

#659678Post 378 of 725

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[QUOTE=red1]the media will rip the piss out of him, he probibly already packing but what got me about the whole situation was that no 1 stopped and said that this guy had alreay had a yellow card and i thought that the ref now had an earpiece connection with the fourth official etc[/QUOTE]

thats exactly what blatter said...

"

But Fifa president Sepp Blatter said: "We had four officials and what is not understandable is nobody intervened."

He added: "I'm not surprised about the reaction. There are people there and one of them should have intervened and run on to the field and said, 'Stop, stop.'

"That's why they have the communication system. The assistants and the fourth official have the right to call on the referee and tell him. It is not understandable how this happened."

"

#659685Post 379 of 725

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[quote=peloquin]thats exactly what blatter said...

"

But Fifa president Sepp Blatter said: "We had four officials and what is not understandable is nobody intervened."

He added: "I'm not surprised about the reaction. There are people there and one of them should have intervened and run on to the field and said, 'Stop, stop.'

"That's why they have the communication system. The assistants and the fourth official have the right to call on the referee and tell him. It is not understandable how this happened."

"[/quote]

therefore its not just the refs fault, big embarasment for fifa :oops: or yet another bit of trickery to get people talking about the world cup yawn :roll:

#659736Post 380 of 725

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[quote=red1]therefore its not just the refs fault, big embarasment for fifa :oops: or [B]yet another bit of trickery to get people talking about the world cup[/B] yawn :roll:[/quote] still get off on julia in conspiracy theory man? :lol:

I think it's just plain funny, quit making a drama out of it. Have a beer, have a burger and stfu, it's the mundial!

[IMG]http://home.tiscali.be/cartons/Real7/world%20cup.jpg[/IMG]

Enjoy it :D

#659811Post 381 of 725

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Can't wait for our Game to start today. :) No more tactics, thinking about the next Game and how many points you need...just win or loose and in the end one team proceeds and the other one is out..that´s tournament football at its best. Good luck to every nation who made it to the Final rounds. 8)

#659838Post 382 of 725

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[quote=KinKyJ]I think it's just plain funny, quit making a drama out of it. Have a beer, have a burger and stfu, it's the mundial![/quote] man had enough of those last night lol, feeling it now :what ;)

i guess this is where the tournament starts to get good :)

p.s. nice picture jan ;)

#659848Post 383 of 725

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I´m back from my vacation!

Well, there´s this blog I read religiously that´s written by a portuguese guy who knows a lot about football, here´s his predictions for the next phase :

[QUOTE][B]Holland[/B] will beat [B]Portugal[/B].

The know nothing critics say Portugal has a sucessfull history Vs Holland and that we beat them in Euro 2004, etc, etc, etc. What does that really matter now? Of the team we beat on June 30th 2004 only 4 players remain in the XI (Robben, RVN, Cocu, EVDS) and the coach is different and tactically different from Dick Advocat so what exactly do past victories matter? On the right of Portugal's defencive axis we have Fernando Meira instead of Jorge Andrade, as our Right-Back we have the ever attacking and defencively cluelless Miguel and on the right side of our defensive midfield we have the rythmnless Costinha. Who do we have on Holland's left attacking side? Arjen Robben, probably the paciest Left-Winger in world football who once he realises Miguel leaves Portugal's right corridor exposed and that Meira isn't really mechanized with either Carvalho and Costinha then AR will have a field day breaking in through Holland's left and testing the lonesome and semi-clueless Meira. If Scolari wants to beat Holland I suggest he switches Figo to the left side and starts with Ronaldo on the right and with Paulo Ferreira as our Right-Back. Ferreira has a lot more defencive culture than Miguel and with ronaldo ahead of him Ferreira will not have to attack as much although with Figo and Valente on the left that flank will exert less pressure but first we have to nullify Robben with Ferreira. Valente should hopefully be enough for the clumsy van Persie and Carvalho and Meira are IMHO enough for RVN. Van Basten will start with a 4-3-3 with 1 striker RVN flanked by 2 wingers Robben/Persie and 3 DMs in it's midfield Sneijder/Cocu/van Bommel but if he needs to score more or turn the game around he'll sacrifice Van Bommel or Sneijder (WS also provides firepower from deep within midfield) to bring in Rafael Van der Vaart and switch from a balanced 3 contention/3 creative to a 2 contention and 4 creative units (RVN, RVP, AR and RVDV). If he's winning he'll sacrifice van Bommel for Deny Landzat to refresh his ball winning capacity. Miguel got subbed Vs México after a poor game, let's hope Ferreira starts on the right for Portugal otherwise it looks complicated.

[B]Argentina[/B] will beat [B]México[/B].

México is a good team but Argentina whether underatted or overrated is still on a reasonably good day better in almost every way but in order to win Perkerman will have to bench Tévez and Messi and field Crespo and Saviola and make sure his 3 DMs give proper assistance to Riquelme. Argentina's game is built entirely around Juan Roman Riquelme, if the opposition nullify him then Argentina completely falls appart and it's 2 forwards have to take individual iniciatives once they realise they don't get much help from their playmaker. Vs Holland we saw how easy Holland's Sneijder and Cocu shackled Riquelme leaving Argentina with no choice other than see Tévez and Messi's individual efforts rowing against the tactically stronger Dutchmen. Vs Holland Argentina fielded what was esssentialy a 4-6-0 system as they had no striker on the pitch, they fielded Messi (a creative left-winger) and Tévez (a 2nd striker) and pressure MUCH more than Holland did yet got no results as Messi and Tévez lacking the physicality to win air-balls coming into the box kept dropping to the flanks and deep in midfield to try to bring the game from Riquelme on up, it didn't work. If Sneidjder and Cocu were enough to render Riquelme helpless then México's 5 man midfield (3-5-2) will be even worse and Messi but Tévez and Sorrin can get past that Full-Backless Méxican defence but Crespo and Saviola will have problems with a 3 CB defence. I suggest Pekerman starts with Crespo and Saviola and if after 60 minutes México maintains the 3 CBs then he brings on Messi to explore the unprotected Méxican flanks. I expect Saviola to have a much easier time with the 3 CBs than the larger Crespo and JS should eventually get the ball in the box breaking in through from Argentina's right side.

[B]Germany[/B] will beat [B]Sweden[/B].

Sweden has never really found itself in this tournament, they can play better than they have so far but not much better unlike Germany who IMHO are playing better than you'd expect from their current crop of talent. Germany is exceeding expectations, Sweden is playing about what is expected for their calibre of present talent.

[B]Ecuador[/B] will upset [B]England[/B].

Ecuador is the most pleasant surprise in the tournament. These South-Americans play not unlike Brasil and even though they aren't rated as highly this creative, free-flowing highly techncist brand of football they play will present nightmare for the robotic, mechanical and extremelly predictable football Erikson plays. if SGE insists on fielding 2 wingers and Lampard and Gerrard in a 4-4-2 and continues to adbdicate of a proper DM for the sake of fitting Lampard and Gerrard and still use 2 strikers instead of a 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard behind the fixed striker then England will continue to play with little elasticity in the middle. There's a 50 yard "string" tying Lampard left ankle to Gerrard's right nakle and the middle of the string is in the midfield line meaning either both go forward 25 yards or Lamps goes up 50 yards and Gerard stays put or vice-versa. Fans claim they neither go all the way or at the same time, no wonder, if one goes then who will pretend he's the team's DM? A 4-4-1-1 with Carragher as DM at Lampard's side and Gerrard as 2nd striker would solve all these problems but Erikson has to abdicate of something and he won't please everybody. If SGE could start with 13 players everybody would be happy but FIFA regulations state only 11 can play for each side so don't expect England to field 2 DMs, Lampard and Gerrard, 2 wingers and 2 strikers because the 4-2-4-2 hasn't been invented yet although I'm sure given the chance Co Adriaanse will soon popularise 2-5-3.

[B]Brasil[/B] will beat [B]Ghana[/B].

Brasil's superior ofensive talent eventually should prevail but never trust these Africans, they are one of the minor surprises of the tournament. They are a mix of the typical African player of high on athleticsim and technique and low on tactical awareness and an interesting mix of a more modern brand of African players. But even if rellying too much on atheticism and will power alone this African midfield is like Felix Trinidad's right cross, you can predict it's coming but you can't stop it anyway. I doubt Appiah and Asamoah will stay in their present clubs after the WC.

[B]Italy[/B] will beat [B]Australia[/B].

Italy on talent are on a different level but never underrate the Aussies, they got heart and unlike Holland the Italians are tactically strong only in defence and somewhat in midfield. Holland plays a 4-3-3 with an "inverted trident" (1 striker 2 wingers) up front while Italy exerts more pressure with a conventional trident (2 strikers and 1 fantasista) which creates more pressure up front but leaves it's midfield exposed to an Attack-to-Defence transition with 4 men compared to Holland with 5[/QUOTE]

Here´s the link : [URL="http://lusofootball.blogspot.com/"]http://lusofootball.blogspot.com/[/URL]

#659936Post 384 of 725

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Damn. 1st off, we got screwed at the last minute on the offsides call but no matter, we still won. Mexico played great too. I do not want to take anything away from their play. I underestimated them, but none the less, Vamos Vamos, Argentina. Vamos Vamos a ganar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#659943Post 385 of 725

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omg rodriguez goal?!!!???!!!

#659947Post 386 of 725

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beautiful goal by maxi rodriguez.

maradona said: "it looked like he shot with my left leg" :p

now we will try to shut down an entire country on next match. we've already done that on Italy 1990.

#659948Post 387 of 725

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[quote=arielus]beautiful goal by maxi rodriguez.

maradona said: "it looked like he shot with my left leg" :p

now we will try to shut down an entire country on next match. we've already done that on Italy 1990.[/quote]

the goal was amazing. My favorite goal so far in the cup. Mi padre es de Argentina tambien.

I remember that game Claudio CANIGGIA, GOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Germany will be a tough game. They come out very strong each game for the 1st 10 minutes and Argentina takes 10 minutes to get relaxed in the game so it will be interesting.

#659968Post 388 of 725

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Along with the Australia v Croatia game the Argentina v Mexico game was the most enjoyable so far - what a goal from Maxi R - Athletico Madrid will be lucky to hang on to him and Torres.

#660002Post 389 of 725

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i think Argentina was lucky (great f *#&! goal), and the referee 5ucks; unfortunately for Mexicans is always the same sad story :(.

But ... one day... one day. Hope never dies :what

[IMG]http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2276/3231/320/mexico.jpg[/IMG]

#660003Post 390 of 725

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[quote=norman001]i think Argentina was lucky (great f *#&! goal), and the referee 5ucks; [/quote] nope man, argentina owned your ass. Great game imo :D

#660005Post 391 of 725

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a bad referee is bad for BOTH teams. it's just hard to notice.

remember how wrong was the assistant giving offside on the last minute, when Tevez/Messi were clear to score.

and yes, he should have given Heinze a red card, but also one to Rafael Marquez on the 2nd half

#660016Post 392 of 725

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[quote=arielus]a bad referee is bad for BOTH teams. it's just hard to notice.

remember how wrong was the assistant giving offside on the last minute, when Tevez/Messi were clear to score.

and yes, he should have given Heinze a red card, but also one to Rafael Marquez on the 2nd half[/quote]

that BS offsides call was way off. I am glad that we still won it

#660021Post 393 of 725

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That game hurt. I even watched it twice. ha ha.

#660050Post 394 of 725

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[quote=arielus]beautiful goal by maxi rodriguez.

maradona said: "it looked like he shot with my left leg" :p

now we will try to shut down an entire country on next match. we've already done that on Italy 1990.[/quote]

you wish bro you wish. :)

#660125Post 395 of 725

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The game is at Friday at 11AM and I am getting married the same day at 5PM. Its going to be a stressful day :shock:

It will be a tough game. I honestly think Germany's greatest chance is in the 1st 10 minutes of the game. After that, if Argentina is able to take control, they have a chance in scoring a few goals.

#660140Post 396 of 725

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^ wish u the very best of luck

#660168Post 397 of 725

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Portugal 1-0 against Holland!

Btw, why don´t Kuyt and Robben stop whining and play some football? And a big "fuck you" to Boulahrouz for that tackle on Ronaldo.

#660171Post 398 of 725

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fuck fuck fuck that fuckin asshole bouhlahrouz...that guy should be sent off. I say we put Petit at the 89 minute mark to go in and break that fucker´s leg!

#660173Post 399 of 725

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What the hell went through Costinha´s mind to put his hand to that ball...?

Well, half-time, should be 2-1 to Portugal by now, but it´s gonna be a dramatic 2nd half...with 10 men and without Ronaldo, these are gong to be the longest 45 minutes of my life...

#660177Post 400 of 725

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There you go, this motherfucker was way overdue...off goes Bouharouz (btw, I recognize Figo should´ve been sent off too, a few minutes ago).

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