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Curious as to everyone's thoughts on the start-up of Iran's nuclear reactor?
[URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE67K01D20100821[/URL]
[QUOTE]It disclosed the existence of a second enrichment plant only last year and announced in February it was enriching uranium to a level of 20 percent purity, compared to about 3.5 percent previously. This is a relatively short step from weapons-grade levels, and well above what is needed to fuel a power plant.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE] B[/B] -- Iran unveiled the first long-range military drone manufactured in the country on Sunday, state media reported.
The unmanned aerial vehicle is capable of carrying out bombing missions against ground targets and flying long distances at a high speed, Press TV said.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad attended the unveiling of the drone, dubbed the "Karrar," in a ceremony marking Iran's Defense Industry Day.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/08/22/iran.drone.unveiled/index.html?hpt=T2[/URL]
Another 'fun' story. :what
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I haven't got a problem with countries arming themselves. You just look at what happened in Iraq, Had Saddam really been able to launch weapons of mass destruction in under an hour there would have been no way there would have been an invasion of Iraq because Iraq would of been able to not just defend themselves but fight back.
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I don't see what the big deal is either with Iran having Nukes. Everyone in the region around them has nukes why can't they defend themselves? 9/11 had nothing to do with Iran so it isn't terrorism.
The US is such a flip flop country when it comes to media. After years of propaganda about not allowing Iran to have this reactor at the last minute they flip flop and say it is ok now...
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I wouldn't have a problem with this either if Ahmadinejacket hadn't stated that [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html"]Israel must be "wiped off the map"[/URL]. I'm not buying their story that this reactor will only be used for electrical purposes either. Not to mention they named their new drone the 'Ambassador of Death'. Don't get me wrong though, I do feel that every country has the right to arm themselves if other countries are exercising the same right. However, Iran seems to have other motives. Hopefully, I'm wrong!
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[QUOTE=Michael^Heaven;885078]I wouldn't have a problem with this either if Ahmadinejacket hadn't stated that "israel must be "wiped off the map"[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel[/URL]
He never said "israel must be wiped off the map". It's old news and yet you're still posting, continuing the lie 4 years on. Why is that?
[QUOTE]Im not buying their story that this reactor will only be used for electrical purposes either.[/QUOTE]
Does it really matter? Iran will not attack or invade any country and history has shown this. If she ever did develop nukes, then they would be for defensive purposes only.
[QUOTE] I do feel that every country has the right to arm themselves if other countries are exercising the same right. However, Iran seems to have other motives. Hopefully, I'm wrong![/QUOTE]
What are these motives you are worried about?
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[QUOTE=runningman;884670]The US is such a flip flop country when it comes to media. After years of propaganda about not allowing Iran to have this reactor at the last minute they flip flop and say it is ok now...[/QUOTE]
What else can they say? The US doesn't have a choice in the matter. Iran will eventually develop nukes as a defensive weapon and if I was in Irans shoes, I'd be doing the exact same thing.
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ahmadinejad rests under firm conviction that their auspicious clerics are in connection with their 12 imam or whatever (do some deep research on that). thier plan is islamic world domination. israel, and the u.s. are infiltrated with dissimilar but the same nefarious forces that the islamofascists are channeling; and furthermore, nationalism is a thing of the past; don't be naive; 'cos either way, a full scale religious war would surely wipe out our current civilization. think about it.
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[QUOTE]f I was in Irans shoes, I'd be doing the exact same thing.[/QUOTE]
hear hear
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[QUOTE]ahmadinejad rests under firm conviction that their auspicious clerics are in connection with their 12 imam or whatever (do some deep research on that). thier plan is islamic world domination. israel, and the u.s. are infiltrated with dissimilar but the same nefarious forces that the islamofascists are channeling; and furthermore, nationalism is a thing of the past; don't be naive; 'cos either way, a full scale religious war would surely wipe out our current civilization. think about it.[/QUOTE]
this is bull...no president actually believes in any of this shit...its population control...same as anywhere else...you gotta get along with the public opinion and they suuuuuurrrrrrreeeeee do hate Israel and the US out there
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of course he's goin to play the public opinion card (like every leader since the bronze age), and pop. control is nothing new. i see ahmadinejad as just a pawn really. conspiracy quackery, and mundane politics are a thick vicissitude hookwinking even the most earnest investigations.
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lulz. yes,i support iran's boom... it will at least even their odds in battle. we wont shoot an unarmed man. this could get ugly :KillYou:
we're going for the win
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lol @ dig72 for quoting wikipedia on a translation that could have been done by anyone.
Giving the possibility to make a nuclear reactor to iran is like giving a shotgun to charles manson, he will use it when he can.
They say they need it for electricity... burn some oil then ffs, they piss that stuff and still wanna go nuclear? doesnt add up imo.
Hope israel blows up the nuclear reactor as they did back in the 70 or 80s if im not mistaken :)
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Hope israel blows up the nuclear reactor as they did back in the 70 or 80s if im not mistaken :)[/QUOTE]
Israel, the second country in as many years, attacked the Osirak plant in June 1981 - the first country to strike out at Iraq's nuclear capability was Iran at the end of the previous September.
As wikipedia seems to be an accepted source round here, here's what it has to say about Iran's PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE.
[QUOTE]Iran [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Air_Force_in_Iran-Iraq_war"]attacked[/URL] and damaged the site on September 30, 1980 with two [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-4_Phantom_II"]F-4 Phantoms[/URL], shortly after the outbreak of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War"]Iran-Iraq War[/URL]. This was the first attack on a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor"]nuclear reactor[/URL] and only the third on a nuclear facility in history of the world. [B][COLOR=red]It was also the first instance of a pre-emptive attack on a nuclear reactor to forestall the development of a nuclear weapon[/COLOR][/B], though it did not achieve its objective as France repaired the reactor after the Iranian attack ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osirak"]Source[/URL])[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ganjamo;888055]lol @ dig72 for quoting wikipedia on a translation that could have been done by anyone.[/QUOTE]
Here's an idea, If you think that the translation by wiki is incorrect, then prove it wrong. Until then, the laugh is on you.
[QUOTE]Giving the possibility to make a nuclear reactor to iran is like giving a shotgun to charles manson, he will use it when he can.[/QUOTE]
Dribble, dribble.
[QUOTE]They say they need it for electricity... burn some oil then ffs, they piss that stuff and still wanna go nuclear? doesnt add up imo.[/QUOTE]
You don't think a nation saving it's limited resources is a good idea?
[QUOTE]Hope israel blows up the nuclear reactor as they did back in the 70 or 80s if im not mistaken[/QUOTE]
If Israel wants the very real threat of bombs hitting Tel Avi, than she can go right ahead and attack Iran.
The end result will lead to both nations being devasted, with huge loss of life. This conflict should be avoided at all costs. Nothing good can become of it.
It's very easy to 'hope', for death and destruction, especially when your not on the receiving end of it all.
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[QUOTE=dig72;888169]Here's an idea, If you think that the translation by wiki is incorrect, then prove it wrong. Until then, the laugh is on you. [/quote]
Cant speak arabic sorry, i dont trust sensitive information like this and if you trust everything you read on the internet, including wikipedia im sorry for you.
[quote] You don't think a nation saving it's limited resources is a good idea?[/quote]
[url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2178rank.html[/url] Sadly they got too few.
[quote] If Israel wants the very real threat of bombs hitting Tel Avi, than she can go right ahead and attack Iran.
The end result will lead to both nations being devasted, with huge loss of life. This conflict should be avoided at all costs. Nothing good can become of it.
It's very easy to 'hope', for death and destruction, especially when your not on the receiving end of it all.[/QUOTE]
Thats the problem, you can attack iran with a peanut and they will respond with an ak-47.
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[QUOTE=ganjamo;888263]Cant speak arabic sorry[/QUOTE]
That's ok, Iranians don't speak Arabic, so it wouldn't have helped you much. Can you find anyone disputing the English translations?
[QUOTE] i dont trust sensitive information like this and if you trust everything you read on the internet, including wikipedia im sorry for you. [/QUOTE]
You know full well it was a lie and yet shamelessly state it as 'sensitive information'. It's sad and obvious but that's alright, you keep at it.
[QUOTE][URL]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2178rank.html[/URL]Sadly they got too few. [/QUOTE]
I'll ask you again, "Do you think a nation saving it's limited resources is a good idea?"
[QUOTE]Thats the problem, you can attack iran with a peanut and they will respond with an ak-47.[/QUOTE]
Peanuts and Charles Manson, now they're the real problems. lol
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They do speak arabic in iran, and also persian. I dont speak neither of them and i still dont trust a thing what a translation done by a person that could support iran in this "mediatic war" we are in.
I still think its just a BS reason making a nuclear reactor when they just dont need it. Maybe they should invest in solar energy or other source that doesnt have as a "side dish" enriched nuclear material.
Come on bro, a guy that denies that the holocaust existed, and attends meetings where he preaches about his hatred towards sionism and the state of israel in general is a problem for them.
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Dig72
How you doing? Quick question if I may, Do you agree that Iran had a right to make a pre-emptive strike against Iraq's nuclear plant in 1980?
Thanks
David
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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;885427]we wont shoot an unarmed man [/QUOTE]
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definitely not as gay as you :)
scum to be ignored
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[QUOTE=ganjamo;888406]They do speak arabic in iran, and also persian. I dont speak neither of them and i still dont trust a thing what a translation done by a person that could support iran in this "mediatic war" we are in.[/QUOTE]
And yet you believe the FOX and CNN translation instead. lol
[QUOTE]I still think its just a BS reason making a nuclear reactor when they just dont need it. Maybe they should invest in solar energy or other source that doesnt have as a "side dish" enriched nuclear material.[/QUOTE]
So every nation that has nuclear reactor should abandon them and go solar?
[QUOTE]Come on bro, a guy that denies that the holocaust existed, and attends meetings where he preaches about his hatred towards sionism and the state of israel in general is a problem for them.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't deny the holocaust and even if he did, so what? He can deny whatever the hell he wants.
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[QUOTE=dig72;888587]He doesn't deny the holocaust and even if he did, so what? He can deny whatever the hell he wants.[/QUOTE]
Probably not the best trait to possess as a leader of a country is to say/believe something that outlandish.
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[QUOTE=davetlv;888415]Dig72
How you doing? Quick question if I may, Do you agree that Iran had a right to make a pre-emptive strike against Iraq's nuclear plant in 1980?
Thanks
David[/QUOTE]
I'm fine Dave and how are you?
And my answer would have to be yes, as did IsraeI. Who am I to deny them that right?
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;888591]Probably not the best trait to possess as a leader of a country is to say/believe something that outlandish.[/QUOTE]
According to who?
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;888591]Probably not the best trait to possess as a leader of a country is to say/believe something that outlandish.[/QUOTE]
Like Religon
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[QUOTE=chunky;888607]Like Religon[/QUOTE]
ha. word!
/close thread (as some might say)
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[QUOTE=dig72;888593]According to who?[/QUOTE]
stop trolling.
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One person's outlandish belief is another person's truth so i don't think he is trolling Res0.
It's a fair question. But i see you dodged it anyways
/close thread
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So Holocaust denial is something you condoe? :lol: Don't say that in a few countries where that will get you tossed in the slammer for a bit.
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you're gonna have to point out to me where exactly i said that
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;888678]stop trolling.[/QUOTE]
So some one asks a question and you call them a troll, someone calls someone a cunt and you say nothing :what
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since this is yet another thread of countless tail chasing i think my work done here. feel free to continue w/o me. big win for you though.
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/close thread
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oh Reso won't point out anything. He never does. Like he never admits he is wrong. He just won't post in this thread anymore.
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;888700]since this is yet another thread of countless tail chasing i think my work done here. feel free to continue w/o me. big win for you though.[/QUOTE]
Love the way you run off with your tail between your leg instead of answering the question.The fact you refer to it as your work indicates that you are only here to stir things up yourself. Tell us res0 what do you mean by your work?