[ms] · Est. May 2002
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Those who don't suspect foul play in this are just plain delusional...its a difficult task to de-construct your own value system in order to deal with the fact that all is not the way you imagined. . .Kinda like realising your parents are not the smartest people in the world or that not all of us will be rock stars In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Its all bullshit and its bad for you"
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Anyone following the inquest into the London bombs?
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[QUOTE=bobjuice;897425]Anyone following the inquest into the London bombs?[/QUOTE]
Yeah i caught that great bit of propaganda where the eyewitness claimed to of saw the bombers
[QUOTE]The 7/7 bombers were in a "euphoric" and "celebratory" mood, hugging each other before going on their separate, final journeys to carry out the attacks that killed 52 people in London, an inquest heard today.
Joseph Martoccia, a Cambridge businessman said the men looked like a sports team "in really high spirits".
He thought there were between "four to six" men in the group. "They were incredibly animated and spirited and went in different directions, not as a team. I recall that was a little odd at the time," he said.
"They were hugging each other and seemed to be celebrating something". In his statement, he also said they were "euphoric, such was their happiness and excitement".
When shown photographs of the four bombers, Martoccia identified Hasib Hussain and Shehzad Tanweer as two of the men he saw on the morning of 7 July 2005.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=dig72;897360]One building goes down, possibility, Second one goes down, suspicious, Third one goes with no plane hitting it, is criminal.
One black box missing, is possible, but every single one?
Planes disintergrating on impact? Never ever happened in aviation history except on 9 11
Entire defense system of the United States just happen to fail on that particular day?
I mean how in the hell do you respond to a weapons attack of any sort, when slow moving "commercial" planes can't even be intercepted with plenty of time to do so?
The lie that has been fed to us by media and those in power is not only ridiculous, but also an insult to anyone who has the capacity for independent and rational thought.[/QUOTE]
:roflmao:
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:roflmao::roflmao:
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You needn't worry though reso they got away with it and that's what's important
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[QUOTE=chunky;897491]You needn't worry though reso they got away with it and that's what's important[/QUOTE]
Yup! And we will never know! WE are all FUCKED!
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;897492]And we will never know![/QUOTE]
I think people will look back in history and think there is something wrong with what took place. But only time will tell
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lulz. what nubcakes.
investigated the trilateral commission, mj12, builderberg, bloodlines, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. in grade school, ffs; and they're nothing but the petty, glamorized, astral, negative-polar opposite of a much more esoteric and indomitable externalization of planetary justice and dominance.
cry more noobs.
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[QUOTE=chunky;897495]I think people will look back in history and think there is something wrong with what took place. But only time will tell[/QUOTE]
"your perception is weak old man."
indeed it's utterly horriffic, what transpired that day, but as a critical event in our world cycle -- no matter what the intent -- it still hold a somewhat considerable ramification(for the time being) and a chance to recognize a problem/
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Don't think anyone has specifically gone into trilateral commission, mj12, or builderberg. I think there are a lot of people who question the actions and the reactions of the US & UK Government following 9/11. Now you’re a very intelligent person you must have some questions about 9/11. I will be shocked if you buy into this whole official story
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truly, my friend. the offical story is a build up facade to keep the masses from panic, no doubt about it. but in utterly humility, i dare not speculate on the actual reason for such an atrocity. however, it must have some importance as a critical turn of the century eye opener. i don't know, but thus i've heard. who really knows?
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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;897564]"your perception is weak old man."
indeed it's utterly horriffic, what transpired that day, but as a critical event in our world cycle -- no matter what the intent -- it still hold a somewhat considerable ramification(for the time being) and a chance to recognize a problem/[/QUOTE]
Maybe I’m wrong but I think that really depends on how we educate our children which will really determine the outcome
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great point forsures
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I think a lot of people outside the US are missing out on a few reality points. The first is the George Bush and the majority of his administration really did have SHIT for brains. George Bush really did make America a target for terror in the sense that he was usually on vacation instead of facing the realities of his presidential duties. George Bush Sr. wasn't retarded, but his son most definitely is/was.
Bringing down the world trade center had been in the works since the first bombing attempt, it was literally a matter of time. America was attacked, during which time our president who's daddy went to war with Iraq decided it was time to finish what his daddy started.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;897588]I think a lot of people outside the US are missing out on a few reality points. The first is the George Bush and the majority of his administration really did have SHIT for brains. George Bush really did make America a target for terror in the sense that he was usually on vacation instead of facing the realities of his presidential duties. George Bush Sr. wasn't retarded, but his son most definitely is/was.
Bringing down the world trade center had been in the works since the first bombing attempt, it was literally a matter of time. America was attacked, during which time our president who's daddy went to war with Iraq decided it was time to finish what his daddy started.[/QUOTE]
Much as I would like to agree with you but someone who manages to rise to the highest point in Government has to have had more than shit for brains, but its far more than bad management organising this. People will extrapolate this for years to come and there are to many things that just don't add up and the more you dig the worse it gets. I think America short changed a lot of people when it came to this.
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;897323] thanks to teh internets a handful of people think they actually have a real life revolution going on. that is all.[/QUOTE]
As far ass Revolution go's I think the internet has done very little to mobilize people. people have become content with their lives and don't really want to question anything and certainty don't want to challenge it. My faith in internet revolution is none existent even though I know people can make a change I have no faith in people.
There's to many people standing on the sideline
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[QUOTE=chunky;897592]someone who manages to rise to the highest point in Government has to have had more than shit for brains[/QUOTE]
He actually really was an idiot Chunky. And the attacks had been in the works since the initial bombing of the world trade center, this was not something that was thrown together over night. It all came together at once with precision like execution, and quiet frankly, the mission was absolutely accomplished. It was awful, shocking, devastating and possibly avoidable, but it wasn't staged and it wasn't devised by some secret organization within America.
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i dont think George Bush was an idiot, i think he's very smart and he made a fool outta everyone else acting that he's an idiot and in shade of this he carried out everything him and his dad wanted, just by acting a fool. i personally see what big difference America went thru pre and post 9/11, and its sad, just see how many lies came and lives lost just under the slogan "War on Terror" and weigh out the benefits, some people made huge deals post this financially and politically. most americans take what theyre told and shown, unless for a few ones that actually do the effort of thinking and questioning with an open mind, and those def see some huge "?" to what has been happening. Ignorance is painful.
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I don't believe that GB is stupid either. I think he played the part of an idiot to a tee. He wanted to take down the US just like his grandfather Prescott Bush who supported the Nazi's. I mean what did you think was going to happen when you vote in a National Socialist to power?
Anybody see those UFO's over NYC the other day? WTF was that?
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[QUOTE=trick12;897652]i dont think George Bush was an idiot, i think he's very smart and he made a fool outta everyone else acting that he's an idiot and in shade of this he carried out everything him and his dad wanted, just by acting a fool. i personally see what big difference America went thru pre and post 9/11, and its sad, just see how many lies came and lives lost just under the slogan "War on Terror" and weigh out the benefits, some people made huge deals post this financially and politically. most americans take what theyre told and shown, unless for a few ones that actually do the effort of thinking and questioning with an open mind, and those def see some huge "?" to what has been happening. Ignorance is painful.[/QUOTE]
Nah, Bush was an idiot, respectfully speaking, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about :)
I know more higher up elected officials than I care to discuss here. George Bush's SAT score was a 1206, that was about what I got on my SAT score, but you don't see me running for President. My uncle was a senator, and my mom's cousin is a congressman. I've been in washington, I've met these people and have spent time with them throughout my life. Bush came from a middle class family in Conn. that moved to Texas when he was 2 years old.
George Bush was CONNECTED, but not smart my friend. I have cousins who went to Harvard and aced their SAT scores, I have cousins who got straight A's , aced their SAT scores and still didn't get into Harvard, even though both their parents did.
Bush Sr. was smart, Bush's brother was a smart politician, but George Bush was a fucking idiot, end of discussion. (and a coke addict - FACT)
[url]http://www.bushchildhoodhome.com/family_history[/url]
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oh well, he's a fucking idiot i agree, but a smart fucking idiot or smart at acting an idiot...
and wont fooling all these millions of people make him smart?
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Well his election wasn't exactly legitimate to start with, it was a mistake. George Bush was basically the candidate that half of VOTERS not Americans but "Voters" felt they had the most in common with. Because unfortunately that's what got votes... "Bush" was the candidate American's could see themselves having a beer with.
Then we got attacked and some of us woke up and decided it's probably best we don't vote for the candidate we would want to have a beer with rather a candidate who is smart and can actually do something in office.
Talk about a scandal... THIS IS A SCANDAL:
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm[/url]
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conspiracy theories aside, it is well known that bush and pappa bush are masons* etc.; this has nothing to do with america, as a country, being responsible for the wtc attacks. extreme religious idealism and islamofascism are both a great world problem, and have become a prime asset to divert the force and containment of our political and military agendas.
in my honest opinion, i think the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by a genuine "ghost in the darkness" conglomerate - consisting of many complex and black lodge groups. i would imagine the resources needed to conduct such an infiltration were of a considerably cunning nature.
it's duly obvious that the hoarding of the world's fiscal energy is already facing such exacting ramifications.
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Bizarrely going back to the original purpose of this thread The Zeitgeist movie had a quote towards the end.
The old appeals to racial sexual religious chauvinism, to rabid nationalist forbear are beginning not to work, a new consciousness sees the earth as a single organism and an organism at war with itself is doomed.
And this is the point I have no faith in. I think nothing has changed.
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^Everyone's entitled to their individual and unique perception.
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astonishing
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Bob you're a wise man of few words.
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[video=youtube;cXomQanUoU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXomQanUoU8[/video]
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No faith in humanity whatsoever. The sixties are long gone and hippies have sold out for a single cold coin or become introvert loners. There is no compassion for the fellow men and people as a species have become numb to the suffering and obsessed with possessions. "whoever dies with most gadgets wins"
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i heard ya bro... but come on, enough with all this pessimism and faint-hearted-ness. i'm sure you've seen & read more than enough(like oh so many truthseekers, cynics, fear mongers, doomsayers, and so forth); but still, that's only part of the equation. we live in some pretty fucking amazing times -- brimming with possibilities for huge advance, as well as ripe opportunities for the acceleration of our race.
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That's the spirit iLL!! It ain't over and there ARE things that can be done to change the current course.
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:lol: look out lucky, RM is in recruitment mode again...
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I don't recruit.. Remember I don't have any friends.:lol:
Did you see those UFO's over NYC though?
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balloons
[video=youtube;MJkyNeU-c4Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJkyNeU-c4Q[/video]
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^haha, her face looks funked paused like that
[QUOTE=runningman;898100]I don't recruit.. Remember I don't have any friends.:lol:[/QUOTE]
Maybe outside of the music :lol: but we do share a common bond when it comes to our passion for the music.
Hell that's politics for you though, you know?
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;897710]Well his election wasn't exactly legitimate to start with, it was a mistake. George Bush was basically the candidate that half of VOTERS not Americans but "Voters" felt they had the most in common with. Because unfortunately that's what got votes... "Bush" was the candidate American's could see themselves having a beer with.
Then we got attacked and some of us woke up and decided it's probably best we don't vote for the candidate we would want to have a beer with rather a candidate who is smart and can actually do something in office.
Talk about a scandal... THIS IS A SCANDAL:
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm[/URL][/QUOTE] Right, the public was bamboozled by the puppet that followed Bushy also, by empty campaign slogans (Yes We Can, which actually appears in US Commie party propaganda from the early 80s) and a host of lies that weak minds believed in earnest (entitlement fanatics seriously rocked the vote).
Voting scandals are also not unique to one party or another. For instance, that nob Al Franken had to undergo multiple recounts to procure enough fugitives and dead guys to beat his opponent. To say nothing of the dead, the criminals and the multiple voting that transpired across much of the rest of the 2008 elections under ACORN and SEIU's guidance. Then, there's Holder and the DOJ turning a blind eye to the Black Panthers intimidation scandal that took place in Philly on election day, NOT investigating clear evidence of said voter intimidation.
To contribute to the topic at hand: No way in hell do I believe the 911 commission's report was completely truthful and forthcoming. Too much money mysteriously changed hands leading up to this event and the Mossad agents captured the following month in Mexico while attempting to blow up Parliament is just another unexplained loose end connected to 911 (Mossad agents were reportedly and allegedly seen celebrating in NYC when the buildings collapsed). Apologies if this was already brought up.
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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;898055]i heard ya bro... but come on, enough with all this pessimism and faint-hearted-ness. i'm sure you've seen & read more than enough(like oh so many truthseekers, cynics, fear mongers, doomsayers, and so forth); but still, that's only part of the equation. we live in some pretty fucking amazing times -- brimming with possibilities for huge advance, as well as ripe opportunities for the acceleration of our race.[/QUOTE]
The thing is...whatever people say about drugs being bad for your health etc. Society as a whole and the human species was orientated towards so much better aims when everyone was getting hight and dropping acid. This is something I have been thinking about last night...also another thing I realised is how self centred the western society is. "We" focus on our selves and seem to believe that our social order is the end of all social orders the dogs bollocks...all those documentaries about the end of civilisation...and human empire and bla bla...when in reality it is quite possible that this is the end of the Western Empire rather than end of the Human empire...i am not sure if you watch Nat Geo and History and all those "cutting edge" documentaries. There are possibilities for huge advance but its profit orientated rather than innovation and improvement focussed. There are things that we NEED and things that make money. It seems that money always takes precedence over human need. I honestly believe that if we leave things the way they are i.e. let the markets guide our advance we will all perish in one way or another. We will either die from starvation, disease or we will become virtual slaves of debt. I am not optimistic in the least...people don't read, people don't think...a bunch of drones and internet is used for porn and reading mainstream media. No internet revolution. People are chasing after fabricated dreams designed to keep them in a consumerism loop.
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no dude it wasn't balloons
[video=youtube;rEtTl9cGrJc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtTl9cGrJc[/video]
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Shpira just out of curiosity, what part of the world are you living in these days?