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Hey Sakio - here's Chumpian DISASTER of the handling of the pandemic.

[video=youtube;IuVo4fnpLC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuVo4fnpLC8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3_yrurTgdYWpEKjVwgtzZz1cmBSBu-27LvnuwJU3th05ura9jixmvDJIE[/video]

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How about the millions who have recovered from the covid flu...it s nothing more than that.

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How about Fauci saying “We Could Not Be Positioned More Poorly For Winter & Coronavirus”

Trump can just get rid of Fauci - then we’ll be fine right?

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1230822]How about the millions who have recovered from the covid flu...it s nothing more than that.[/QUOTE]

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.

Covid has killed more than 230,000 and not even a full year. It is NOT the flu. I would challenge you go knowingly get infected by Covid, if you really think it is the same as the flu. Back up your "same as the flu" messaging, please do. But you won't, answers my question. I am sorry but Truth and Facts are against you.

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1230822]How about the millions who have recovered from the covid flu...it s nothing more than that.[/QUOTE]

Bro are you being serious?

In the last recorded 6 months, according to the CDC, Flu infected a max of 56 million and killed 62,000, a strike rate of 0.11%. In comparison, since Feb 2020, Covid infected 5 million and killed over 230,000 in the U.S. alone, a strike rate of about 4.5%. That's over 45 times the kill rate due to the lack of a vaccine.

"Nothing more than that"? It is 45 times more deathly than the flu.

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.yes bro serious your numbers are bogus....they already came out and said only 5,500 really only died from covid. Sorry but its a scamdemic

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1230846].yes bro serious your numbers are bogus....they already came out and said only 5,500 really only died from covid. Sorry but its a scamdemic[/QUOTE]

Link?

Here's the John Hopkins factsheet on Covid.

[url]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map[/url]

Now if you call [B]THIS[/B] bogus, then we'll just agree to disagree.

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poor cheeto, mind you his ranting has been hilarious last 24 hours

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i’m fairly certain Sakio is a pizza gatey type.. it’s likely pointless debating with him. Sakio you think Sandy Hook was all crisis actors right?

And yes - the Cheeto will pay for a recount that will only show him he’s lost twice.

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What upset me more about this election is that if people voted for Trump in 2016, they did so knowing only partially well what a sleazy womanizing businessman he was. But in 2020, having seen what worse he is capable of, he had even more votes than 2016, which tells me that a growing population of us Americans are ok with him and his corruption.

And that is [B][U]truly[/U][/B]heartbreaking to me.

I honestly believe that worse than Covid-19 is TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). It's worse than Covid-19 because it's far more contagious and will NEVER have a cure.

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There is definitely a sinister agenda with Trump. I always saw his presidency as a power grab by very nefarious sources. I think as time goes on and we continue to TRULY unpack how he got in office... the rest of his legitimization will began to make sense...

Dr. Fareed Zakaria explains it well.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3sByRA1Co[/url]

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Biden just took PA and GA. It would be a real culmination of events if he snags NC now.

If there was ever a time I would utter the words MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, it would be today. Trump definitely MAGA. He reunited the country so well, 72 million of us voted against him. Broke every presidential record to date and the count is still soaring.

The heart of democracy lives. [B]WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!![/B]

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1230880]What upset me more about this election is that if people voted for Trump in 2016, they did so knowing only partially well what a sleazy womanizing businessman he was. But in 2020, having seen what worse he is capable of, he had even more votes than 2016, which tells me that a growing population of us Americans are ok with him and his corruption.

And that is [B][U]truly[/U][/B]heartbreaking to me.

I honestly believe that worse than Covid-19 is TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). It's worse than Covid-19 because it's far more contagious and will NEVER have a cure.[/QUOTE]

There are a lot of people that will vote their party regardless of policy or how it will affect them personally. I find this is more of a Republican phenomenon than Democrat. A big % of the religious population vote Republican as well and will never change.

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[QUOTE=ddr;1230902]There are a lot of people that will vote their party regardless of policy or how it will affect them personally. I find this is more of a Republican phenomenon than Democrat. A big % of the religious population vote Republican as well and will never change.[/QUOTE]

Particularly when Trump plucks a nutjob from Apopka, FL who is "charismatic" christian to teach him the ways of leading Republicans in a Ideological Religious Christian Fundamental CULT like fashion.

[url]https://youtu.be/5w0kSkvusjI[/url]

[url]https://youtu.be/gHsBIk1ZLr4[/url]

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_White?fbclid=IwAR0g8HQ1Qcc-ibtXJiuBWFPsvaU_4-bIjEdt2uxLUzIahxWFfMjIxhV1X4c[/url]

I'm with you Kamal - We The People indeed!

[IMG]http://www.usssavage.org/wethepeople.GIF[/IMG]

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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/CHQZjBwHoO0/?igshid=1ihl4g1merko9[/url]

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^^^ Good one :lol:

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Ya that is funny Feather, a few friends of mine had posted it on their IG.

[video=youtube_share;wWLj2-a6FLI]https://youtu.be/wWLj2-a6FLI[/video]

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i think i may have just recoverd from my celebrations hangover...

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[video=youtube;53nyFuGdlEk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53nyFuGdlEk[/video]

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^^^ Thank goodness for VPNs . Jim Jeffries so not pc but so funny :lol: John Oliver on the election. :lol:

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1230879]i’m fairly certain Sakio is a pizza gatey type.. it’s likely pointless debating with him. Sakio you think Sandy Hook was all crisis actors right?

And yes - the Cheeto will pay for a recount that will only show him he’s lost twice.[/QUOTE]

You just need look at Sakio's posting history - all your answers are there. Including how he pays for bias confirmation and tries to pass it off as news.

And let's not forget his anti-semetic and racist posts in the past - I still have his anti-semetic private message he sent me that got him a time out (and then got mad).

Factor in low education - not really a wonder he's a Trump supporter.

(all of this can be confirmed in his posting history)

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I posted this on FaceBook today

I genuinely have a serious question. Thanks to Chump, all of the Right calls the left the "Radical Left". Why? Perhaps a petulant self-projection onto other's in order to distract and deviate from your own despicable shortcomings? But, having said this (and maybe I got lucky thus far), I don't recollect seeing a single image of ONE HUMAN who voted for Biden displaying Biden's face on Rambo's body carrying a gun, wearing Capt. America garb with a BIDEN 2020 hat and Biden's face super-imposed on the Shield, wearing shirts similar to "Trump that Bitch", and in this video, this Einstein level genius with an inflatable tube around his lower belly and Trump's bust on the front of it. What on man's polluted earth do we call these conditionally imbalanced Trump obsessed Right Wingers? It is seriously worrying and sickening at the same time, to idolize a world leader this way. In fact, I don't ever recollect seeing this in the history of politics (Disclaimer: I wasn't interested in politics until a monkey grabbed the reins).

[url]https://flipboard.com/video/wttg/c5fb26f0fa?fbclid=IwAR16hwBtOUxJvyytpEs-bElZubTdlkL1zV7PZ_jIRn90Lzzja6VPWNDryVc[/url]

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Does anyone honestly think that Joe Biden - who won only 17% of American counties yet has over 80m votes - won this ellection fairly? Thats record low number of counties for any winner by the way. Just to put that into perspective, Hilary won 16% of the counties in 2016 but had over 15m less votes than Biden.

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Yes. I predicted Trump turned away more voters than he won - 100% due to the way in which he handled the pandemic. That was what pushed American voters over the edge to vote predictable vs firebrand. I have some experience with political campaigns.

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And what about the huge amount of undeniable evidence of fraud? Anyone with an amount of sense knows that something looks odd?

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I dunno mate, that’s coming mostly from one man, Trump, who also lead the birther movement against Obama being American born. Cant say I’d take Donald’s word for it. The supreme court judges Trump put there have found no fraud. Chris Christie and other big Trump supporters have found no fraud. In fact, since Republicans rarely win the popular vote they’ve made sure voter fraud is all but impossible to take place. Do the research of you have not had a chance to already on the Republican safe guards put in place to prevent fraud.

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One man? You have to be kidding me?

Pennsylvania sent out 1.8m mail in ballots but counted 2.5m mail in ballots. Of those there were thousands that were counted the day after they were sent, thousands more were counted on the day they were sent. And get this, thousands were counted before they were sent out.

There is a massive amount of instances where questions are being asked about the integracy and legitimacy of your election. Would you not agree that just one question raised should be enough to investigate? Not only are courts not taking up these cases but the media are not reporting them. Why is that? Why is it that Trump, for the past four years, has been vilified and persicuted over his supposive collusion with Russia during the last election. That led to not only the courts taking this up but his treatment from the media has been relentless. Nothing ever came of it but it was investigated nontheless.

Surley you and and everyone else, no matter which political party you lean towards, would want to know that your votes were counted legaly? The long term implications of them not are extremley worrying.

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[video=youtube;AytDzZ2ecCc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AytDzZ2ecCc[/video]

This covers a lot of your issues.

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Didi, that was posted in October, how does it help? How does it answer my previous statement about the Pennsylvania mail in ballots? How does it answer the fact that Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 600k votes with almost 70% of the votes counted making it virtualy impossible to lose? Why did they stop counting in Pennsylvania in the middle of the night? How is it that by morning in Pennsylvania Trumps lead had virtualy vanished?

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Clearly you already have it all figure out MJ

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:) I wish I was that good.

I dunno man, everything just seems odd. The numbers just don't add up.

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[QUOTE=MJ;1232162]Didi, that was posted in October, how does it help? How does it answer my previous statement about the Pennsylvania mail in ballots? How does it answer the fact that Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 600k votes with almost 70% of the votes counted making it virtualy impossible to lose? Why did they stop counting in Pennsylvania in the middle of the night? How is it that by morning in Pennsylvania Trumps lead had virtualy vanished?[/QUOTE] Because it foretold all the stunts that Trump was going to pull. And why they were wrong :)

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And the evil plan would have worked too if it weren’t for the meddling deep state

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All the dems i know voted mail in and many lock down hard during covid. The Repubs i know all voted in person (myself included). The various states have various laws as to when the various votes could be counted. Biden, being from Penn knew the importance of winning that state and he traveled there often to get his message out. Keep in mind Florida voted Obama both terms. Many voters associate Biden with Obama of course.

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I'm no expert on American politics but, 81m people voted for Biden? A guy, who as far as I know, is going to open your borders, put up your taxes and take away your guns? If that is correct who would vote for it?

There is zero chance that your election is not suspect.

I should add, I'm British, the outcome means nothing to me so I am not biased to either candidate. Although I do like Mr Trump.

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[QUOTE=MJ;1232181]A guy, who as far as I know, is going to open your borders, put up your taxes and take away your guns?[/QUOTE]

this right here lets me know what you have been reading and paying attention to :( all 3 of those are scare tactics used by Republicans to get the lower class to vote against their economic good. Democrats will not open our borders (aside from letting Trump's incomplete failed wall to fall down), Democrats will increase taxes but for people who make (most likely) >$250K single... which will not increase the taxes of the majority of people ie.. lower class (middle class is dead, there is no middle class in America anymore), and finally, Democrats will not take away your guns.. they may make it harder to get a gun or less easier to own an assault rifle but this does not equate to "take away your guns" which has been used by the Republicans again as a scare tactic countless times.

even the Attorney General Barr (staunch Republican and Trump loyalist), even noted there is no evidence of widespread fraud. i am not admitting there was fraud BUT if there was, why is the only discussion of it pertaining to only the presidential election? if that is fraudulent, then that makes House votes fraudulent, Republican control of the Senate fraudulent. does it not?

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Cheers for that. As I said, I am far from an expert on your politics.

Making it harder to own a gun is one chip away at your second amedment right? That right 'Shall not be infringed'? I know there is a whole new debate on gun ownership and I for one am against them but they are written into your constitution. Is that not sacred to you? Is that not what could protect you from a tyrannical goverment?

You are lucky you have these freedoms, you should fight to keep them. Your first amendment is already under fire with the tech and media organisations censoring what people say.

So why do you think Barr has decided, in the middle of the election, to retire? Unless he was fired?

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Exactly DDR - interesting to see US politics ideologically possessing those living in Europe. To be expected though with a cult of personality president like Trump. Fortunately Biden is no cult of personality - at all - so the ideology temperature should only continue to drop.

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Has this gimp been flung out the Whitehouse yet?

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[QUOTE=MJ;1232187]Cheers for that. As I said, I am far from an expert on your politics.

Making it harder to own a gun is one chip away at your second amedment right? That right 'Shall not be infringed'? I know there is a whole new debate on gun ownership and I for one am against them but they are written into your constitution. Is that not sacred to you? Is that not what could protect you from a tyrannical goverment?

You are lucky you have these freedoms, you should fight to keep them. Your first amendment is already under fire with the tech and media organisations censoring what people say.

So why do you think Barr has decided, in the middle of the election, to retire? Unless he was fired?[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that our Constitution was written ~200 years ago, some of the items in there are timeless and work with changing society norms and development in technology but some do not. do people really think they can overthrow a tyrannical government these days with hand guns and rifles against a government that has tanks, jets, and technology that has yet to be seen by the public? certainly not.

With changing from a Republican president to a Democratic president, most posts within the government will be replaced... cabinet members etc. Barr as acting AG, will undoubtedly be replaced in January and as his schedule has ended, he retired. this is normal after a presidential election where we switch presidential parties.