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I like our chances AND, I'm optimistic about our future... I hope each of you can say that about the country that you live in. Some people cannot:

(3 min preview) [video=youtube;ptyiLs5YEr8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptyiLs5YEr8[/video]

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^Lets not get into religion...

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;989121]^Lets not get into religion...[/QUOTE]

???

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989108]I like our chances AND, I'm optimistic about our future... I hope each of you can say that about the country that you live in. Some people cannot:

(3 min preview) [video=youtube;ptyiLs5YEr8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptyiLs5YEr8[/video][/QUOTE]

lol florida, u remind me of one of my professors in a baptist based university in the states, she was teaching a course called "understanding islamic faith", and pulled out a video simillar to this, its a long story but all i can say is ignorance is very common

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^Trick before you start trolling my post, why don't you educate yourself about who the producers of this film is.

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;989037]

One of the reasons i don't believe it was a US govt job followed by a cover up is that i don't believe the US govt or it's military are competent enough.[/QUOTE] That's the right answer !! :lol: I think the terrorists just got incredibly lucky. As had been said this was the first time anything like this had ever happened.!!

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989124]???[/QUOTE]

Just commenting on the fact that this thread was primarily about the topic of 9/11 and the [I]conspiracy theories [/I]that existed in conjunction with it. Human right violations due to religious beliefs was never discussed. Yes we do take many things for granted, but my only concern was weather your video was going to lead into a religious subject matter.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989048]Interesting to see how peoples so called beliefs on what happened on 9/11 have evolved since the "you know what's astonishing" thread.[/QUOTE]

Brain development - 10 years on.

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[QUOTE=DIDI;989173] As had been said this was the first time anything like this had ever happened.!![/QUOTE]

Plenty of skyscrapers have caught fire and been hit by planes. Only once did they ever fall down though

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[h=1][URL="http://www.infowars.com/enhanced-pat-downs-at-nfl-games-america-is-rapidly-turning-into-a-high-security-prison/"]Enhanced Pat-Downs At NFL Games? America Is Rapidly Turning Into A High-Security Prison[/URL][/h] [QUOTE]The NFL has announced that it will be implementing “enhanced” pat-downs at all 32 NFL stadiums. Once this is fully implemented, the 16 million fans that attend games each season will be frisked from the ankles to the knees and from the waist up. Apparently this new level of security was brought on by a recent incident where a Cowboys fan smuggled a stun gun into a game between the New York Jets and the Dallas Cowboys and started zapping other fans with it. As usual, authorities have responded to a minor security incident by massively overreacting to it. In the post-9/11 world in which we live, paranoia is standard operating procedure. Those that are responsible for security are far more interested in “covering their backsides” than they are in respecting the liberty, freedom and dignity of average Americans. America is rapidly turning into a high-security prison. When naked body scanners and “enhanced pat-downs” went into U.S. airports, those that warned that we would soon see these types of “Big Brother” security measures pop up at train stations, bus stations, shopping malls and sporting events were dismissed as “conspiracy theorists”. But it turns out that the “conspiracy theorists” did not even fully understand how quickly all of this nonsense was going to spread. How much “security” is going to be enough? Where in the world is the line going to be drawn? If groping all fans is “necessary” for security at all NFL games, how long will it be before it is implemented at all other sporting events across the United States?

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[url]http://www.infowars.com/enhanced-pat-downs-at-nfl-games-america-is-rapidly-turning-into-a-high-security-prison/[/url]

[url]http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/09/nfl-orders-ankles-up-frisks-for-16-million-fans-enterting-stadiums-security-buffalo-bills/1?csp=hf[/url]

:lol:

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[QUOTE=chunky;989180]Plenty of skyscrapers have caught fire and been hit by planes. Only once did they ever fall down though[/QUOTE]

lulz. this is the first post of yours that ive read since i ignored you the other month. no wonder you are the only person on ms i ignore.

Uh, its sad that i have to stoop to your level to explain that a twin prop plane crash != 747, but in your dumbed down, black and white world, it's one in the same.

Oh wait. You have no fucking idea what i just said.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989157]^Trick before you start trolling my post, why don't you educate yourself about who the producers of this film is.
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trolling your post, really...and why the fuck would i have to educate myself about the producers of some video when its irrelevant to the discussion anyways, did you not have anything else to say floridapeaches? good try tho

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;989187]lulz. this is the first post of yours that ive read since i ignored you the other month. no wonder you are the only person on ms i ignore.

Uh, its sad that i have to stoop to your level to explain that a twin prop plane crash != 747, but in your dumbed down, black and white world, it's one in the same.

Oh wait. You have no fucking idea what i just said.[/QUOTE]

Ha i knew couldn't ignore me forever res0

I wasn't referring to any twin prop plane I was referring to the plane that crashed into the building near Amsterdam. Stick do doing what you do best res0, stroking cocks that is.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;989187] Uh, its sad that i have to stoop to your level to explain that a twin prop plane crash != 747, but in your dumbed down, black and white world, it's one in the same. [/QUOTE]

And no plane hit building 7

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;989187]dumbed down, black and white world, it's one in the same.

Oh wait. You have no fucking idea what i just said.[/QUOTE]

Black & White Dumbed down world. You're the one who believes everything in the official story and nothing that conflicts that. Save of the cocks res0

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;989209][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SUF7L.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SUF7L.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://images.everything2.com/images/userincoming/Cool_Man_Eddie.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

in! :lol:

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Back to the chav tv pikey gifs

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Where has he gone, Oh no where has he gone;)

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[QUOTE=chunky;989259]Where has he gone, Oh no where has he gone;)[/QUOTE]

Stroking old mens cocks

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[QUOTE=chunky;989260]Stroking old mens cocks[/QUOTE]

Chunky, give that shit a rest man.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989274]Chunky, give that shit a rest man.[/QUOTE]

No he admitted to stoking cocks of old mens cocks.

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In before an old mans cock

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[QUOTE=chunky;989279]No he admitted to stoking cocks of old mens cocks.[/QUOTE]

It was an awkward figure of speech. You probably pushed Steve out of this forum and now your target is Res0? That's not cool bro.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989281]It was an awkward figure of speech. You probably pushed Steve out of this forum and now your target is Res0? That's not cool bro.[/QUOTE]

I didn't push anyone, they did it to themselves

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[QUOTE=chunky;989298]I didn't push anyone, they did it to themselves[/QUOTE]

People come here to make friends not enemies. Think about it.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989316]People come here to make friends not enemies. Think about it.[/QUOTE]

I ain't goin' nowhere :lol: Unlike some I don't let silly shit here get under my skin until it starts pissing me off so much that I have to piss and moan about it 24x7 and drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on....and don't realize everyone else thinks im a jagass.

Thats what ignore is for...

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dup post

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[QUOTE=chunky;989279]No he admitted to stoking cocks of old mens cocks.[/QUOTE]

So what do you exactly get out of this?

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;989337]So what do you exactly get out of this?[/QUOTE]

prepare for a response that will make you go WTF did I just read? :unsure:

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[QUOTE=chunky;989180]Plenty of skyscrapers have caught fire and been hit by planes. Only once did they ever fall down though[/QUOTE] Bit disingenuous .

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;989319]drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on....and don't realize everyone else thinks im a jagass. [/QUOTE]

Oh really

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989316]People come here to make friends not enemies. Think about it.[/QUOTE]

Hmm is this how you welcome new members?

[QUOTE=floridaorange;989011] Congrats you're a douchebag. [/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;989337]So what do you exactly get out of this?[/QUOTE]

I think its hilarious, he entered into a thread where he had absolutely nothing worth contributing, so in order to disrupt it he suggested that himself and some other members indulge in cock stroking. But that seems to be the way the politics forum has gone. In the old days we had some good discussions here. Sure we disagreed but we never had to resort to name calling (except for Jenks maybe). Then after Toasty & Miro vanished we where left with res0 who failed to convince anyone of his argument so he resorted to silly pictures and then name calling. I'm just joining in with the newer direction the forum has taken.

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Does anyone believe the official line that no one jumped that day ??

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Thats an official line? It was pretty obvious to everyone I thought that there is video all over of people jumping out windows....If not well thats just dumb. :lol:

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[QUOTE=chunky;989567]Hmm is this how you welcome new members?[/QUOTE]

99% of the time no, and apologize if I was being brash. 9/11 stings, I'll be the first to admit that.

Welcome to Mercury Server new members, at times we are something akin to a dysfunctional family as you can see.

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[QUOTE=chunky;989021]He was on the money about res0, just not about all Americans[/QUOTE]

It wasn't my intention for my comment to look like I was labelling all Americans. The belief and value system goes for all, not all are pompous and close mined though. Apologies.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;989024]Less than 100 people could stage 9/11. That comment made my brain hurt.[/QUOTE]

Its probably less than you would think. The question is, why do you think it would take thousands?

To provide weight to your assumption, one would have to assume you knew the exact inner workings of at least 8 of the Security Agencies working on behalf of your Govt. This I'm afraid, you do not have.

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[QUOTE=NickMcDuff;988881] One quick choice, which is it? A fully loaded plane carrying its max payload of fuel slamming into a building and causing the collapse in near free fall because of the massive damage and trauma to the foundations OR a building that collapses in the exact same manor because of some small fires spread out over a few floors? You can't have both, for obvious common sense reasons.[/QUOTE]

Still no answer to this either. Must have made common sense.