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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;944419]interesting thread. This place does seem to have gone somewhat stale. However, I met some really good friends on here in the last few years and we now talk on facebook and skype and not on here. The internet changes fast people[/QUOTE]

Indeed, this is reality.

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It became stale because I was gone for a month. I'm certain of it.

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[QUOTE=demonAfro;944403]IIRC, you are the only one that can actually use this feature? :p[/QUOTE]

:lol: Good point. So far it is not open to public because I know what would happen. Gimme an A, Gimme a B, gimme a U, gimme an S and gimme an E. :p If we had a few people who would be willing to post regular blogs, we could make blog sections for various categories. We asked for bloggers a while ago after we made the Change to the vbulletin 4x version but response was somewhere between low and non existing lol.

[QUOTE=runningman;944046][..]We do need to be more accepting of others thoughts (and I include myself in that statement) rather than so quick to the draw.[...][/QUOTE]

Exactly. Having fun and picking on each other is ok as long as it happens on a reasonable level and not because of nothing or because User B can't stand User A who made the post initially.

[QUOTE=runningman;944406]Ok I got it.. How about a new members thread above GYY and Politics. Just to get them talking. And when they first register there could be a note saying go meet some like minded music lovers in the New Members Section

What do you think? Then when they get the balls they can come into GYY? Or just post a sticky thread at the top of GYY called new members. Where only new members can talk? Have a link when they register to send them right to the thread.[/QUOTE]

The 2nd forum on top is called "Community & Goodies" and starts with this sentence "Tell us who you are and what you look....." and in this forum, there are threads where people can tell us where they live (new member sign-in sheet) or post their pics and tell a little something about themselves (Names with Faces thread).

In the past I have worked with direct links in the registration process. Years ago I have created a board overview to make it easier for new people since I know we have lots of section but bitter truth is, people don't read such crap. :lol: Then I tried to include the overview to the FAQ but guess what...nobody cared to check it out. Both methods did not help at all, new members still asked the same questions so I gave up trying. Just ask yourself, on how many forums you have read their instructions or general information you were provided with during registration. My personal answer to this question is 0 lol. Not trying to be anti to your suggestions, in fact I like it when our members seek improvement and make suggestions. It is just that almost anything discussed in this thread was already tried out and proved as a failure.

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Ya but I think we need to be more direct and tell them where there spot is. Kind of like showing the dog where the doggie bed is so he knows where to sleep on his first night home. Can we at least try a new members sticky at the top of GYY and leave it there for a month to experiment? We will just call it the new members thread. Old fogies can go in there too but we will have to be sensitive not to scare them away with our expertise on music and such.

Like when an Oakenfold or Tiesto thread gets started we shoot them down right away. This is what I mean as more accepting. I know this used to be a Digweed and [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]Sasha[/url] board but the times are a changing.

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I dont see anything wrong with having a sticky like that. :)

What I really want to do but havent made the time to do is create a quick intro to DJDB for the front . Something similar to the landing page for unregistered users con soundcloud, facebook, etc. A high-level intro that explains what we are so people don't have to stumble through it to learn. Anybody willing to help with this? :) Something like soundcloud's would be perfect

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I reckon we should get rid of post counts all together. browsing some of these threads all you get it post, post post with people posting 10 posts what they could get in one. Then people start another thread wacking off about how they have achieved some sort of milestone. If someone can reset mine to zero please do.

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i believe more members would join gyy discussions if you guys could just stop bitching about whatever and judging everything and complaining about useless shit so what if someone wants to celebrate 1K posts, so what if someone doesnt agree with your political view, so what if someone likes tiesto - well you can ban this sucker :lol: (jk) get over yourselves this place is changing for the better all the time and if you dont like it here you can find another board, like TA for instance, i hear theres lots of crap all over the place non stop in huge amounts whatever...

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[COLOR="#48d1cc"] I'm fairly a new member so it would not be very serious opine of some things

but the Promos & Recommendations .. . compared to when I arrived

like I say here .. [url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?99716-Guy-J-Exclusive-DJ-Set-April-2011/page2[/url]

visually is totally contaminated by garbage like this " Domi0207 " .. either a human or a member of the fcking matrix

I think that for the total still beign of good quality .. . have to make them disappear in any way :Smiley:

:GameOn: [B]Dirty Mongrel :GameOn: Cream (Wiretappeur Remix)[/B] :GameOn: [/COLOR]

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[QUOTE=Hoff;945302][COLOR="#48d1cc"] I'm fairly a new member so it would not be very serious opine of some things

but the Promos & Recommendations .. . compared to when I arrived

like I say here .. [url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?99716-Guy-J-Exclusive-DJ-Set-April-2011/page2[/url]

visually is totally contaminated by garbage like this " Domi0207 " .. either a human or a member of the fcking matrix

I think that for the total still beign of good quality .. . have to make them disappear in any way :Smiley:

:GameOn: [B]Dirty Mongrel :GameOn: Cream ([url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=276"]Wiretappeur[/url] Remix)[/B] :GameOn: [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

So you are saying there were a lot of quality mixes being posted, and now it's full of crap?

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[QUOTE=Hoff;945302] visually is totally contaminated by garbage like this " Domi0207 " .. either a human or a member of the fcking matrix I think that for the total still beign of good quality .. . have to make them disappear in any way :Smiley: [/QUOTE]

Yeah I've noticed this. You have the same 4 or 5 members spaming the forums with loads of links to any old shite. I'm guessing (I haven't checked) this is because they can earn cash from getting loads of people downloading their links. Its a tough one because you don't want to deter people from posting but at the same time you don't want the forum filled with threads no one replies to.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945313]So you are saying there were a lot of quality mixes being posted, and now it's full of crap?[/QUOTE]

No he's saying the quantity has gone up, the quality has gone down:( Some of these people are just ripping anything on any EDM Radio show and just posting it for $$

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945313]So you are saying there were a lot of quality mixes being posted, and now it's full of crap?[/QUOTE]

Still good mixes but p+r smells like a port-a-potty!:lol:

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There are others who make a great contribution, R_co is a good example

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[QUOTE=chunky;945322]No he's saying the quantity has gone up, the quality has gone down:( Some of these people are just ripping anything on any EDM Radio show and just posting it for $$[/QUOTE]

exactly, now if it was proton radio that would be ok

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Its much like I suspected

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945313]So you are saying there were a lot of quality mixes being posted, and now it's full of crap?[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="#48d1cc"] no no, is not about the quality of the mixes what I said,

now it's full of crap .. in terms of quantity so therefore also in terms of visual and navigation quality

that bastard post and re post everything, he don`t look if the topic already exists .. . somehow makes fun of all of us

would be nice to cross him in some club [/COLOR]

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Look @ p+r section and how many threads are merged because of double and triple posts. I don't see how there's any argument.

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[QUOTE=Hoff;945334][COLOR="#48d1cc"] no no, is not about the quality of the mixes what I said,

now it's full of crap .. in terms of quantity so therefore also in visual and navigation quality

that bastard post and re post everything, he don`t look if the topic already exists .. . somehow makes fun of all of us

would be nice to cross him in some club [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

It would feel right to front kick his face

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I'm not going to ban members for sharing uncopyrighted music :) I'd love to be able to pay everyone for posting a set--if our members have figured out how to both share with 42k people AND get paid for it, I applaud and support them for doing it. Badmouthing another member for sharing free music with our community should not be welcome here. Whether you like them or not, they're taking the time to share music.

If you're mad that that others are getting paid to share with people, maybe you should follow chunky's steps above and have a friendly competetion :)

If you're frustrated with the quantity or quality of sets posted to P&R, try using our [url=http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/content.php]DJ Database[/url] (click the [url=http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/content.php]Home[/url] tab) to subscribe to the quality sets instead :)

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[QUOTE=chunky;945327]There are others who make a great contribution, R_co is a good example[/QUOTE]

R_co is a bot. He originally joined [ms] and was sharing sets directly. Per some changes I made with him a year ago, the majority of his posts are now automated from his SoundCloud page. Just like [ms]_Podcast_Bot

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[COLOR="#48d1cc"]not barking up are all my friend ;)

[B]for me the quality must always be important[/B] :D

if this domishitetc made his posts with quality and having respect to other topics .. fantastic

of course not bother me that they receive money, frankly don't bother me at all .. congrats for that

" try using our DJ Database " maybe that's good for someones, I'm not interested ..... I like quiet browse when I can, .. and I liked it when it also involved quality

and I say this honestly and very happy, it is my opinion[/COLOR]

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I download many of his sets because I think they're quality. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder :lol:

I see nothing wrong with him doing what he does, even if I think the music is bad. That's like me telling all members that [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]Sasha[/url] & Digweed sets aren't allowed here because I don't like their music. I might not like their music, but many others do that justify it being here. The same goes for the music that other members are posting.

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[COLOR="#48d1cc"] In nothing I'm referring to the music,

only and exclusively to his posts [or posts/topics from others farts users with attitudes like this], .. without any criteria, without respect, some more shits ..... .. and in my opinion, totally without quality :D

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[QUOTE=turkish delight;945366]

.... chola and domi and all the other moneymakers are not MS like ....

[url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?99716-Guy-J-Exclusive-DJ-Set-April-2011/page2[/url][/QUOTE]

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He's sharing music with others. You may not agree with what he does, but I do. Here's my two cents--if you're so concerned with someone sharing music that you don't like with other people, take a break from the Internet for a while :)

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The DJDB has really elimintated any probs I would have had with P+R. Since I never could keep up with it I would end up searching for sets for artists I like all the time and wondering if I misssed stuff. I would tag sets here and there to keep up with, but thanks to the subscription page I don't miss anything which is handy. 95% of the stuff posted there I don't listen to but so there has always been a lot of noise for me. But more of everything is > hardly anything for sure imo.

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[COLOR="#48d1cc"] I repeat, not concerned at all picklemonkey ;)

you just must respect my opinion, and I think if it really relatively care a bit what frequent users think .. .. it would be good in a positive way that this be considered

... wanted to convey that in my opinion the quality of the web was totally badly affected ..compared to when I became a user, and that quality was one of the main reasons for me together with the music

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Everyone's entitled to an opinion--but when you start harassing other members, like here:

[url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?99716-Guy-J-Exclusive-DJ-Set-April-2011&p=945243&highlight=#post945243[/url]

...then I feel the need to get involved. Just as I have to respect your opinion, you need to respect Domi's. Please quit harassing him.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945313]So you are saying there were a lot of quality mixes being posted, and now it's full of crap?[/QUOTE]

Definately quantity over content .... new and underground artists I've got no prob with (+ its great how you pick up on a new DJ and then manage to find older sets) - but [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]David Guetta[/url] sets are completely outside the [ms] demographic and needless.

Plus there are the needle vs haystack sets requests, video threads where no set exists, and needless bumps where there are no new ID's, worthwhile new comments or new rips.

The DJ database is a real plus ... but this still may not eliminate spam threads.

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[COLOR="#48d1cc"] not harassment, I say what I think

and definitely no respect to a user who does not respect the other users' posts

a shame that is most important users that only copy and paste .......... that users who somehow bring something more, .... in this way quality users will be going away[/COLOR]

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[QUOTE=simonr;945394][url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]David Guetta[/url] sets are completely outside the [ms] demographic and needless.[/QUOTE]

We have people subscribed to [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]David Guetta[/url]. Just because you don't like an artist, doesn't mean someone here doesn't want to see sets posted by them

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I don't see him disrespecting anybody. The only disrespect I see on [ms] is members disrespecting him.

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;945402]We have people subscribed to [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]David Guetta[/url]. Just because you don't like an artist, doesn't mean someone here doesn't want to see sets posted by them[/QUOTE]

1.... Dancing Queen ... just taken Karen off my xmas card list :P

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I think the only way to safely navigate the P+R section nowadays, unfortunately, is by using the DJ database... it's an indispensable feature to have given the sheer amount of stuff being posted each day... and while I can appreciate members' enthusiasm with sharing sets, it just seems a bit spam-ish to me when really random sets are being posted, or double and even triple posts are being created... for a quick buck.

The argument can be made, well if you don't like what you see, then use the DJ database to avoid navigating pages... but then why should that person have to be forced to use one method at viewing/browsing/acquiring knowledge of new music... I can see both sides to the matter, freedom of posting vs. quality of posting, but it just seems like there isn't a balance right now...

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I see constant disrespect posting all the time things that another users had posted, in many cases users who has many years here

doing it in a disrespectful moron way, .. not inadvertently

laughing of the person who has to remove them, he's laughing from a long time

but it became clear that users who care about the quality we do not matter, it's good to know that! ;)

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[QUOTE=simonr;945416]1.... Dancing Queen ... just taken Karen off my xmas card list :P[/QUOTE]

Hahahah that's funny that I am the only one.....what can I say, now and then I like to bust it to some cheesy music :P

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[QUOTE=Caley Martin;945420]I think the only way to safely navigate the P+R section nowadays, unfortunately, is by using the DJ database... it's an indispensable feature to have given the sheer amount of stuff being posted each day... and while I can appreciate members' enthusiasm with sharing sets, it just seems a bit spam-ish to me when really random sets are being posted, or double and even triple posts are being created... for a quick buck.

The argument can be made, well if you don't like what you see, then use the DJ database to avoid navigating pages... but then why should that person have to be forced to use one method at viewing/browsing/acquiring knowledge of new music... I can see both sides to the matter, freedom of posting vs. quality of posting, but it just seems like there isn't a balance right now...[/QUOTE]

Well said Caley! I'm just wondering why the double, triple, and quadruple is being tolerated these days (on a daily basis)? Please answer that one Pickle.

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;945404]I don't see him disrespecting anybody. The only disrespect I see on [ms] is members disrespecting him.[/QUOTE] You don't consider putting up music links that also link us to porn disrespectful ??

So many people are obviously upset by what is happening perhaps you need to stand back for a moment and ask yourself why. We are the people who regularly contribute to these forums , for better or worse sometimes , and our opinions should count. You tell us if we don't like it to go away?? Be careful what you wish for.

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We already have moderators who are merging the duplicate threads. If any other unbiased members would like to help keep duplicates merged in P&R, I'd be interested in speaking with you in private.

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;945451]We already have moderators who are merging the duplicate threads. If any other unbiased members would like to help keep duplicates merged in P&R, I'd be interested in speaking with you in private.[/QUOTE] You are completely ignoring the problem of inappropriate links.

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;945451]We already have moderators who are merging the duplicate threads. If any other unbiased members would like to help keep duplicates merged in P&R, I'd be interested in speaking with you in private.[/QUOTE]

Surely if it was considerate members who care about the music and want to be a part of the community that were posting the links and not some script that farms and reuploads links links for profit every other thread wouldn't need moving and merging?