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Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

175 durable postsStarted 2010-04-30Latest 2015-01-08
#1376739Post 81 of 175

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[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9FTDV7O1&show_article=1[/URL]

so congress is going to add a 32 cents per barrel tax hike (quadruple the current tax) against the oild companies to help the cleanup... far beit from me to not support the cleanup, but this is ultimately a tax hike that is going to be passed on from the companies to the consumer. this really irritates me because 1) the companies are, somewhat, getting reprieve from THEIR mistake and 2) i really don't believe congress when they say this money is going towards clean up efforts. maybe a little... but i doubt much.

#1376755Post 82 of 175

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^^^the US govt has become so pathetic.

update:

BP said it would make another attempt to plug the leak Wednesday, but gave it only a [B]60percent[/B] chance of success. If short-term efforts fail, it will take BP [B]several months[/B] to drill a relief well to stop the leak.

The oil spill is a political hot potato for the Obama administration before a November election that is widely expected to erode Democrats' control of Congress. Analysts warn that voters may punish Democrats regardless of who is ultimately deemed responsible for the mess.

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who has been critical of the federal government's response, again called for more equipment, especially booms, to help stop the oil from making landfall. He said 70 miles of his state's coastline had been affected by the oil spill.

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#1378860Post 83 of 175

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[URL="http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Institutional+Ownership&Symbol=BP"][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#f1e3c5]Goldman Sachs Sold 44% of its BP stock three weeks before the Deepwater Horizon explosion[/COLOR][/FONT][/URL]

[url]http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Institutional+Ownership&Symbol=BP[/url]

sounds like it wasn't an accident.

#1378866Post 84 of 175

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[QUOTE=Garrick;863914][URL]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9FTDV7O1&show_article=1[/URL]

so congress is going to add a 32 cents per barrel tax hike (quadruple the current tax) against the oild companies to help the cleanup... far beit from me to not support the cleanup, but this is ultimately a tax hike that is going to be passed on from the companies to the consumer. this really irritates me because 1) the companies are, somewhat, getting reprieve from THEIR mistake and 2) i really don't believe congress when they say this money is going towards clean up efforts. maybe a little... but i doubt much.[/QUOTE]

This. I facepalmed at the gym today when I saw this.

Here's a great idea.

Add more taxes that's going to be passed on through to the consumer.

Put a moratorium on drilling in the gulf so that 1) we effectively put into employment even more americans and 2) jack the price of gas up in this country because we're having to supply this difference in oil output by foreign oil that costs more.

This will not end well.

Btw, when Toyota was having some problems with their cars, did we put a fucking moratorium on DRIVING FOR EVERYONE?????

goddamnit. so inept. so fucking inept.

#1378867Post 85 of 175

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what does everyone think of this method to plug the leak?

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#1378982Post 86 of 175

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hey to all the Pcola folks. i unfortunaly am hearing that the oil is only a few miles from the beach and tar balls are poppin up. so awful.

do u see a massive effort to protect the shorlines. its seems to me the govt has so far ignored florida.

#1378985Post 87 of 175

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Obama is scheduled to make yet another appearance down here. Why? All he is doing is spending taxpayers money for his fucking entourage to travel with him. Gulf Coast folks are not liking him right now. Hell, I never liked him in the first place.

#1379000Post 88 of 175

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video [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6541930n&tag=related;photovideo[/url]

Photos taken from around the country, Chicago, Washington, New York, Tampa, etc...

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[IMG]http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00121/SP_322824_BORC_oilp_121445c.jpg[/IMG] Anger over the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico is spilling into streets as protests are organized at BP’s offices and gas stations around the country.

A multi-group protest made up of environmental groups is planned for Friday in Washington D.C., for example, while a week of demonstrations in several cities was kicked off yesterday by a new campaign, Seize BP.

Besides the organized demonstrations, anti-BP Facebook accounts have popped up online. And in New York City, some one or several people have splattered what looks like brown paint on the logo of three different BP gas stations.

BP's inadequate response has left the public frustrated, said Allison Fisher, the energy organizer at Public Citizen, one of the groups organizing Friday's protest in Washington. “They’re looking for ways to express that.”

Friday’s protest organized by eight groups—Center for Biological Diversity, Chesapeake Climate Action Network, Energy Action Coalition, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, Hip Hop Caucus, Public Citizen and 350.org—will take place in front of BP’s headquarters.

It will include an inflatable oil barrel and an actor portraying BP CEO Tony Hayward in a prison jumpsuit.

Those organizations also hope their protest will bring attention to their foremost cause: reducing global warming and stopping offshore drilling.

“We’re hoping to capture that attention, get people engaged at this corporate level and channel it into climate work as well,” said Fisher.

After several protests in May, Seize BP kicked off a week of demonstrations on Thursday in Washington, New York and Chicago and has plans to continue into next week in 26 cities and towns across the country.

The group is pushing for the U.S. government to seize BP’s funds and place it in trusts now to help reimburse those affected by the oil spill, said Carl Messineo, spokesperson of Seize BP.

“We’re seeking urgent and immediate resolution,” said Messineo.

BP did not return a call for comment.

The lengthy time frame for the slowly unfolding disaster—the leak started on April 20—“is a long enough time for people to get angry,” said Juliet Huck, CEO of TheHUCKGroup, a communications firm. Besides not finding a fix to the leak, a lack of communication with the public is also to blame for festering frustration. “The silence is what is creating this anger,” said Huck.

Anger has also turned to rage. Aside from the protests, at least three BP gas stations in New York City were vandalized with what appears to be black or brown paint on their signs.

“I think somebody got mad or something,” said Lucky Singh, the manager of a gas station in Manhattan's Harlem neighborhood. He said that the splattered paint appeared on the stations highest signage two days ago, adding that someone was expected to stop by to clean it off on Thursday.

Despite the vandalism, Singh said business is still the same. “No one has complained or anything,” he said.

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#1379007Post 89 of 175

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I'd be shocked if BP isn't done as a company after this... there's just no way they'll be able to continue under the "BP" name once the mess is cleaned up.

It is truly difficult for me to personally fathom the amount of damage this has done and will do in weeks, months and years ahead.

Who else wants their next car to be a hybrid? I know my wife and I are set on it and I'm looking to sell my car asap so that I can buy one.

#1379010Post 90 of 175

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[B]Deadliest Catch Captain: Spill Impact Could Be "Tenfold" Worse Than Valdez[/B]

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Captain Keith Colburn is best know as captain of the Wizard on the Discovery Channel's hugely successful series, "Deadliest Catch." He's been a commercial fisherman for 25 years, and he's even participated in an oil spill cleanup in Dutch Harbor, Alaska. Colburn also testified before Congress against off-shore drilling in Bristol Bay. Captain Keith spoke with the LKL Blog and gave a unique, fisherman's perspective on the oil spill.

LKL Blog: You're a fisherman. How have you reacted to the Gulf oil spill?

Colburn: Being an Alaska fisherman, there is grave concern about what is exactly going to happen to the food chain in the Gulf. The fish inside the Gulf, and also a lot of the predator fish outside, are all going to be impacted dramatically. Especially the oil down in the water column, down in the bottom where these species live. As a fisherman it's pretty dramatic, and it could have widespread implications.

When the Exxon Valdez hit the rocks in Prince William Sound, the biggest thing that impacted us in the Bearing Sea, and there wasn't a drop of oil in the Bearing Sea, was the public perception of anything Alaskan that was seafood. That dramatically impacted our pricing, and impacted all fisherman in the state of Alaska and the Pacific Northwest. The perception from the public was that all seafood coming out of Alaska was tainted, which was not the case.

Unfortunately, what I think we're starting to see now is consumers are concerned that anything coming out of the Gulf States is tainted seafood products. So it's unfairly hurting these fisherman in advance of their fishing grounds being tainted by oil. That could have lasting effects on the shellfish and the fishing industry throughout the US.

As an Alaska fisherman, I'm not concerned about my resource because it won't be impacted environmentally, but, especially the fisherman down there in the gulf - Florida, Texas, Mississippi - they're all going to be impacted because of the consumer misconception that it's all tainted seafood. Hopefully by the end of the day there will still be fishing grounds that will be open, productive, and able to sustain at least some of the resource that has been harvested previously, but we'll have to wait and see.

LKL Blog: Do we know yet how much the overall catch will be affected?

Colburn: My concern is some of the Gulf fisherman I've talked to think this may affect them one, two, three years. They need to realize that this could dramatically impact and affect their way of life permanently.

The herring stocks in Prince William Sound 20 years later have never recovered, never. They have basically almost been completely decimated, and so this spill, which I believe has tracked to be already larger than the Valdez spill, has the potential because its moving slower and moving in and spreading out over a wider area, to be two to three times as devastating to that marine ecosystem as the one that happened in Alaska 20 years ago.

LKL Blog: Do you feel a kinship to the Gulf fisherman?

Colburn: Without question. I was in New Orleans not even a year ago and did a function with the Louisiana Shrimpers Association in the Gulf. It was to basically help them out because the shrimpers were already struggling with the high price of diesel to actually make a living.

They were struggling already with diesel prices and with imported farm shrimp, so now you are going to double that up with decreased quotas, decreased areas to fish, public skepticism about the quality of the product. It could have lasting and detrimental effects to not only the guys that fish.

All fisherman feel a kinship to each other, whether its lobsterman back on the east coast, or sailors fishing for herring in the bay area in San Francisco, we all make our living from the sea, we are all a little different breed of guys and gals. At the end of the day we are all hard working guys to make a living off the sea without damaging it at the same time.

LKL Blog: After the Valdez spill, what did the fisherman do? Obviously your life, your economic well-being is turned upside down.

Colburn: You're right, your economic well-being is turned upside down, you have no idea what the future holds for you. Some fisherman will be impacted greater than others, but in the near-term the thing that is scary is that what occurred during the Valdez spill is that fisherman all of a sudden became spill response personnel.

They basically took their fishing vessel, because the fisheries were closed, and went right into working on spill response cleanup. So for a year they managed to see good returns and good revenue based on a changing lifestyle for one year. But after that one year, and after they decided "well we have done as much as we can for the cleanup, that’s the best we’re going to do," the next season reality set in and it was "well wait a second, what am I going to do now? My herring fishery is closed, my salmon run that I use to fish is now closed, what am I going to do to get by this year?"

Now that’s what these guys need to look at, how am I going to be impacted long-term? If I do get through this season working on the spill as opposed to working on my boat catching shrimp, what am I going to do in the future after that.

LKL Blog: What can the government do to help these guys?

Colburn: Well you know, I don’t know. What I would like to see, to this point we are 36 days into this and it seems to me, and I'm not talking about the government, I'm talking about the oil industry - Halliburton, and Transocean - just keep this revolving door passing the buck and assessing blame. Instead of assessing blame lets find a realistic way to get this thing capped.

That’s that most disappointing thing. You've got these billions of dollars that go into research and development to tap wells and to pump. It's a thousand times greater than the amount of research and development to goes into capping these things. I mean, the oil industry is great at tapping wells, let's learn how to cap them as well in the event that we have something like that in the future.

LKL Blog: From what we know now, would you assess this as having a far greater impact than Valdez?

Colburn: With the information that is coming out now I think this will have an impact that could be tenfold what Valdez was. You are looking at heavily populated areas, ports and everything from tourism to sport into commercial fishing to transportation. All kinds of things could be impacted on the entire Gulf region and down the coast of Florida. This stuff might even make it up the east coast to the Atlantic coast.

We’re talking about heavily populated areas with lots of infrastructure, lots of jobs that are related in one way or the other to the ocean, to the beaches. Whether its tourism or guys fishing for little restaurants and mom-and-pop chains, it’s going to have a domino effect through the entire high depths of financial infrastructure of the southeast region of the U.S.

#1379028Post 91 of 175

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Compensation between $580 to $15,000 should sort them out. I wonder if any of them protestors know who Warren Anderson is!

#1379031Post 92 of 175

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Goldman Sucks sold almost half of their BP stock before the explosion?? This is a win/win for oil, all the way around. Preserves the status quo and won't hurt their revenues. Of course it was deliberate. That makes it terrorism. Obama is a DINO (democrat in name only.) He doesn't have a clue as to what to do, His priorities as of last night were Lebron James. I wouldn't be suprised if there weren't reprisals (counter terrorist attacks) against Big oil.

#1379051Post 93 of 175

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;866554]video [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6541930n&tag=related;photovideo[/url]

Photos taken from around the country, Chicago, Washington, New York, Tampa, etc...

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[IMG]http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00121/SP_322824_BORC_oilp_121445c.jpg[/IMG] Anger over the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico is spilling into streets as protests are organized at BP’s offices and gas stations around the country.

A multi-group protest made up of environmental groups is planned for Friday in Washington D.C., for example, while a week of demonstrations in several cities was kicked off yesterday by a new campaign, Seize BP.

Besides the organized demonstrations, anti-BP Facebook accounts have popped up online. And in New York City, some one or several people have splattered what looks like brown paint on the logo of three different BP gas stations.

BP's inadequate response has left the public frustrated, said Allison Fisher, the energy organizer at Public Citizen, one of the groups organizing Friday's protest in Washington. “They’re looking for ways to express that.”

Friday’s protest organized by eight groups—Center for Biological Diversity, Chesapeake Climate Action Network, Energy Action Coalition, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, Hip Hop Caucus, Public Citizen and 350.org—will take place in front of BP’s headquarters.

It will include an inflatable oil barrel and an actor portraying BP CEO Tony Hayward in a prison jumpsuit.

Those organizations also hope their protest will bring attention to their foremost cause: reducing global warming and stopping offshore drilling.

“We’re hoping to capture that attention, get people engaged at this corporate level and channel it into climate work as well,” said Fisher.

After several protests in May, Seize BP kicked off a week of demonstrations on Thursday in Washington, New York and Chicago and has plans to continue into next week in 26 cities and towns across the country.

The group is pushing for the U.S. government to seize BP’s funds and place it in trusts now to help reimburse those affected by the oil spill, said Carl Messineo, spokesperson of Seize BP.

“We’re seeking urgent and immediate resolution,” said Messineo.

BP did not return a call for comment.

The lengthy time frame for the slowly unfolding disaster—the leak started on April 20—“is a long enough time for people to get angry,” said Juliet Huck, CEO of TheHUCKGroup, a communications firm. Besides not finding a fix to the leak, a lack of communication with the public is also to blame for festering frustration. “The silence is what is creating this anger,” said Huck.

Anger has also turned to rage. Aside from the protests, at least three BP gas stations in New York City were vandalized with what appears to be black or brown paint on their signs.

“I think somebody got mad or something,” said Lucky Singh, the manager of a gas station in Manhattan's Harlem neighborhood. He said that the splattered paint appeared on the stations highest signage two days ago, adding that someone was expected to stop by to clean it off on Thursday.

Despite the vandalism, Singh said business is still the same. “No one has complained or anything,” he said.

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so outraged that instead of flying down to NOLA like a few of my friends have done, they're spending their time bitching to the choir.

people like this piss me off sometimes.

#1379055Post 94 of 175

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as per idiot, those people are holding sticks, they are there to fight

#1379057Post 95 of 175

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yeah go to the beach and help out with the cleanup. what good is standing on the corner with a sign going to do.

#1379078Post 96 of 175

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I'm proud this board won't let this issue go away.. Very serious stuff here.

#1379098Post 97 of 175

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;866612]so outraged that instead of flying down to NOLA like a few of my friends have done, they're spending their time bitching to the choir.

people like this piss me off sometimes.[/QUOTE]

May I ask what you have done to help? Why aren't you on a plane to NOLA or Florida? :roll:

I would love to take time off work, hop on a plane and do my part to help out, but that isn't an option for everyone. Some people can't afford to hop on a plane and go and help in NOLA and Florida. Instead they do what they can from where they are. They are doing their part by educating the public about the issue (surprisingly there are a lot of people out there living under rocks that have no idea what is going on right now). They are becoming the voices for the animals and plant life that cannot speak for themselves. If they can get just one more person to understand the severity of the situation, and move them to help out (in whatever way they can, big or small), they have done their part.

#1379100Post 98 of 175

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If and when oil stained animals are in need of assistance in Florida, this board has my word that I will go and help and try and bring a friend or two.

And actually, if any MS members want to get organized and meet-up at the beach, let me know, I'm in.

#1379109Post 99 of 175

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^^^^Massive respect to you and anyone that goes to help. If anyone knows of any legitimate donation sites, please let me know and I will donate whatever I can to help

#1379110Post 100 of 175

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[url]http://www.gnof.org/[/url]

#1379111Post 101 of 175

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^^^ Thanks for all the information. Much appreciated !

[QUOTE=88Mariner;866612]so outraged that instead of flying down to NOLA like a few of my friends have done, they're spending their time bitching to the choir.

people like this piss me off sometimes.[/QUOTE] Or writing about it on music forums :lol:

Seriously, it is bringing it to the eyes of the world. Which will probably translate to more people helping with the cleanup. There is room and need for both types of people.

#1379112Post 102 of 175

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^ i think he's referring to the picketers, not sure...

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#1379113Post 103 of 175

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Seriously, what can the government actually and realistically do. ?? This shouldn't be a political issue. Just speaking for Australia here , but we seem to have this thing where everyone asks what is the government doing ?? when we should be asking what are we doing ?? Is it the same in America ??

#1379114Post 104 of 175

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Update on Pensacola as of today...

[video=youtube;bZYq5XIyp1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZYq5XIyp1Y[/video]

[QUOTE=DIDI;866690]Seriously, what can the government actually and realistically do. ?? This shouldn't be a political issue. Just speaking for Australia here , but we seem to have this thing where everyone asks what is the government doing ?? when we should be asking what are we doing ?? Is it the same in America ??[/QUOTE]

Provide emergency disaster relief funds necessary to immobilize as many trained professionals as possible to aid and assist all of the volunteers. Frankly the Gov't can do quiet a bit, timing being the most important factor.

As with any large scale disaster such as Hurricane relief, etc, the Gov't are the ones who usually step in and build levi's and provide other infrastructure related relief when needed... I don't know what the weather is like in Australia where you live Didi, but in Florida the Gov't has helped a lot in times like these... especially presidents like Herbert Hoover for example.

#1379119Post 105 of 175

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;866691]Provide emergency disaster relief funds necessary to immobilize as many trained professionals as possible to aid and assist all of the volunteers. Frankly the Gov't can do quiet a bit, timing being the most important factor.

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exactly. our govt was way behind in reacting. way too little way way too late. once again our govt has completely failed us.

#1379121Post 106 of 175

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;866691]Update on Pensacola as of today...

[video=youtube;bZYq5XIyp1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZYq5XIyp1Y[/video]

Provide emergency disaster relief funds necessary to immobilize as many trained professionals as possible to aid and assist all of the volunteers. Frankly the Gov't can do quiet a bit, timing being the most important factor.

As with any large scale disaster such as Hurricane relief, etc, the Gov't are the ones who usually step in and build levi's and provide other infrastructure related relief when needed... I don't know what the weather is like in Australia where you live Didi, but in Florida the Gov't has helped a lot in times like these... especially presidents like Herbert Hoover for example.[/QUOTE] This is what I mean about responsibility, for me the best thing the government could do would be to make BP do all this. We are talking about separate issues. This isn't a weather issue. This isn't a natural disaster. Although obviously they should step in and do all possible if BP don't. For me blaming the government just takes the spotlight off the real culprits here.

Btw looking at what is happening there is not that much volunteers would be able to do until the oil hits the shore ?? In fact the disaster has happened but the consequences haven't yet. It's very scary:(

We have been having some totally weird weather as well. Tornados where we have never had them before. On these our governments should,and do, step in .

#1379126Post 107 of 175

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^The fact that BP was negligent and is responsible doesn't mean we can afford to assume they will take care of everything, especially given the unprecedented magnitude of it all. Thus the governments intervention.

#1379129Post 108 of 175

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^^^ Well , that is pretty well what I said :) But the utmost pressure should be put on them to do everything possible and it seems to me blaming the government is taking away from that pressure. Just what it looks like from here:)

#1379794Post 109 of 175

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This situation will hit the global world for month to come. All governments that can help should. But instead governments like our's here in Toronto rather spend money on the G20 summit in 2 weeks.

How about putting the G20 summit on hold and spend the $1,200,000,000.00 That's right $1.2 BILLION dollars in saving the worlds environment, starting with this oil spill. I mean hmmm, spend $1.2 billing on a 15 hour weekend chat or saving millions of species and preventing future down falls from this oil spill. [B]Put the money where the WORLD needs it![/B]

#1379796Post 110 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

[QUOTE=ONDRAY;867487]This situation will hit the global world for month to come. All governments that can help should. But instead governments like our's here in Toronto rather spend money on the G20 summit in 2 weeks.

How about putting the G20 summit on hold and spend the $1,200,000,000.00 That's right $1.2 BILLION dollars in saving the worlds environment, starting with this oil spill. I mean hmmm, spend $1.2 billing on a 15 hour weekend chat or saving millions of species and preventing future down falls from this oil spill. [B]Put the money where the WORLD needs it![/B][/QUOTE]

Well said.. The world is off its rocker right now. We are completely as a society unhinged on what is important. Fucking skype the G20 and pocket the $1.2 Billion. But they probably won't want those deals recorded would they...

Mainstream Media has let us down Mainstream Music gives us no direction/cause Mainstream Consciousness is distracted

Demand more and fight for what is right..

#1380399Post 111 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

US Govt is now saying there last revised estimate for oil flow was incorrect. Its now twice what was previously disclosed.

This oil leak is spewing as much as the Exxon Valdez did every 5-10 days

[URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37636151/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf[/URL]

its hard to believe that the Obama has yet to speak with the BP executives making all the calls. UNREAL. there is no way he can be reelected after this incompettance

#1380405Post 112 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

A co-worker's father who works for a major US oil company, had this to say:

BP has been notorious for violating safety and environmental procedures processes. In 2005, they had an explosion in their Texas City refinery that killed 15. They were held liable for multiple regulatory violations. Also in 2005 after a hurricane passed, their deep water-floating platform was found tilting badly. We sent in experts to save the platform from overturning and sinking to the bottom of the ocean. In that case, it was determined that while securing the rig for the hurricane prior to evacuation, an operator had not followed critical procedures. In the mid 2000s, it was discovered that BP had not performed annual inspections on the Alaska Pipeline; Inspections that are required by law. When the inspections were performed, it was found that the pipeline had multiple serious defects.

They are a British company doing business in our country and taking our vital resources, and messing up the environment and people's lives.

#1380409Post 113 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

They ruined our lifestyle as we know it. Its just disgusting. I still hear the mayor of Loisianna complaining that there are still not getting all the supplies they need. I see that Alabama got screwed too on what they needed to battle the oil and now there beaches are tainted.

They should be building the Great wall of sand around the entire coast to prevent oil from hitting the beaches

It is real close to Panamma City Beach. At any rate its going to get into the loop current (or a hurricane whips through) & it will be over the keys and the whole east coast of the US. Maybe then somebody in Washington will wake up.

#1380410Post 114 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

[QUOTE=clintlove;868227] They are a British company doing business in our country and taking our vital resources, and messing up the environment and people's lives.[/QUOTE]

According to News Night 40% of BP shares are owned by American's. In the UK BP employees about 10,000 people in the US its 20,000. If you want to talk about fuck ups maybe you should check out union carbide Bhopal disaster. The Indians are still waiting on extradition of Warren Anderson 26 years later

[QUOTE]Over two decades since the tragedy, certain civil and criminal cases remain pending in the United States District Court, Manhattan and the District Court of Bhopal, India, against Union Carbide, (now owned by Dow Chemical Company), with an Indian arrest warrant also pending against [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Anderson_(chairman)"][COLOR=#0645ad]Warren Anderson[/COLOR][/URL], CEO of Union Carbide at the time of the disaster. As the Union Carbide boss, Anderson knew about a 1982 safety audit of the Bhopal plant, which identified 30 major hazards. Rather than fix them in Bhopal, only the company's identical plant in the US was fixed. Neglecting these hazards in Bhopal caused the deadly explosion. .[/QUOTE]

#1380433Post 115 of 175

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[QUOTE=clintlove;868227]

They are a British company doing business in our country and taking our vital resources, and messing up the environment and people's lives.[/QUOTE]

They're a multi-national company doing business over the entire globe. The fact that the company was formed in Britain at the beginning of the 20th century is pretty irrelevant now.

Taking [I]your[/I] resources? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one

#1380438Post 116 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

[QUOTE=bobjuice;868259]They're a multi-national company doing business over the entire globe. The fact that the company was formed in Britain at the beginning of the 20th century is pretty irrelevant now.

Taking [I]your[/I] resources? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one[/QUOTE]

I didn't write it, I was just showing someone's (who's worked in the oil industry for a major oil company for all his life) opinion about the matter. Laugh/cry all you want, but those resources are in US territory.

#1380441Post 117 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

yeah BP is almost half american with 40% of shareholders US citizens but i still say F*ck BP. its there GREED that got us into this mess...

#1380464Post 118 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

BP should throw a wedding ring at the leak then it'll stop putting out.

#1380467Post 119 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

[img]http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/07/bpstation.jpg[/img]

#1380475Post 120 of 175

Re: Oil leak in Gulf of Mexico off coast of LA

[QUOTE=DIDI;866698] This isn't a weather issue. This isn't a natural disaster. [/QUOTE]

Tell that to us Floridians by the end of this summer.

[QUOTE=Jenks;868293]BP should throw a wedding ring at the leak then it'll stop putting out.[/QUOTE]

lmfao


[B][U]BP offices in the United Kingdom: [/U][/B] [url]http://www.bp.com/contacts.do?categoryId=24&contentId=2000551[/url]

Office BP p.l.c. Address International Headquarters 1 St James's Square London, SW1Y 4PD UK Phone: +44 (0)20 7496 4000 Fax: +44 (0)20 7496 4630

Office BP Oil UK Address Witan Gate House 500/600 Witan Gate Milton Keynes, MK9 1ES UK Phone:: +44 (0)1908 853000

Office Air BP Limited Address Sunbury Business Park, Building D Sunbury on Thames Middlesex, TW16 7LN Phone: +44 (0) 1932 762000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 762999

Office BP (Chemicals) Address Sunbury Business Park, Building A Sunbury on Thames Middlesex, TW16 7LL Phone: +44 (0)1932 762 000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 774 372

Office International Marine Address Sunbury Business Park, Building D Sunbury on Thames Middlesex, TW16 7LN Phone: +44 (0) 1932 762000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 762999

Office BP Gas, Power & Renewables Address Building B Chertsey Road Sunbury upon Thames Middlesex TW16 7LN Phone: +44 (0)1932 762 000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 762 999

Office BP Exploration - Aberdeen Address Farburn Industrial Estate, Dyce Aberdeen, AB21 7PB UK Phone: +44 (0)1224 832 000 Fax: +44 (0)1224 832 550

Office BP Exploration - Dimlington Address Dimlington Terminal Easington Hull, HU12 0SU UK Phone: +44 (0)1964 650 331 Fax: +44 (0)1964 650 078

Office BP Exploration - Sullom Voe Address Sullom Voe Terminal Mossbank Shetland, ZE2 9TU UK Phone: +44 (0)1806 243 000 Fax: +44 (0)1806 243 200

Office BP Exploration - Sunbury Address Chertsey Road Sunbury-on-Thames Middlesex, TW16 7LN UK Phone: +44 (0)1932 762 000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 762 999

Office BP Exploration Operating Company Ltd - Wytch Farm Address Gathering Station, Thrashers Lane Corfe Castle Wareham Dorset, BH20 5JR UK Phone: +44 (0)1929 476 072 Fax: +44 (0)1929 476 190

Office Russia Ukraine Business Unit Address Chertsey Road Sunbury-on-Thames Middlesex, TW16 7LN UK Phone: +44 (0)1932 762 000 Fax: +44 (0)1932 762 999

Office BP Exploration (Faroes) Limited Address Ground Floor, 640 e/f Skansavegur 1 Torshavn Faroe Islands Phone: +298 353 130


[B][U]BP offices in the United States[/U][/B] [url]http://www.bp.com/contacts.do?categoryId=488&contentId=2000552[/url]

Office Anchorage Address BP Exploration (Alaska), Inc. 900 East Benson Boulevard Anchorage AK 99508-4254 Phone: +1 907 561 5111

Office Chicago Address 28100 Torch Parkway Warrenville IL 60555 Phone: +1 630 836 5000

Office Houston Address 501 Westlake Park Boulevard Houston TX 77079 Phone: +1 281 366 2000

Office La Palma Address 4 Centerpointe Drive La Palma California 90623

Office BP Chemicals Address 28100 Torch Park Way Warrenville IL 60555 Phone: +1 877 701 2726

Office BP Solar Address 630 Solarex Ct. MD 21703 Phone: +1 301 698 4200


How'd you like to be going to work here right now?

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