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[quote=davetlv]Alex

Not sure when the pictures were taken, the to hizbollah with love was my addition; better have kids write on missiles then strap body belts full of explosives to their chest and send them through a checkpost though!

Sorry if they've offended.

David[/quote]

Sorry if this offends too. Some pictures taken after those cute Israeli kids wrote those cute messages on those cute bombs. Enjoy...

[quote=Bululu][URL="http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/"]http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/[/URL][/quote]

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^^^ Unreal man.... those people are the ones that are wanting to "wipe" another race off the planet and now they try and reach out to the "emotional" side of humanity....

if that isn't hypocrasy at its finest, we must be studying from different dictionaries.

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[quote=Kamal]^^^ Unreal man.... those people are the ones that are wanting to "wipe" another race off the planet and now they try and reach out to the "emotional" side of humanity....

if that isn't hypocrasy at its finest, we must be studying from different dictionaries.[/quote]

You tell that to her

[URL="http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/Invasion/25.jpg"][IMG]http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/Invasion/25.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

or to them...

[IMG]http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/Invasion/39.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/Invasion/40.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/Invasion/41.jpg[/IMG]

The three last pics are from a civilian van which was evactuating people... Well, until the Israeli airforce flew by that is...

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BS Jan and you damn well know that.... there are far worse atrocities from this war that I can google and paste pictures of in here. Bottom line, you can't pick ONE photo to point out right or wrong simply because [B]THIS [/B]is the consequence of a war they CHOSE to bring upon themselves.

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[quote=Kamal]BS Jan and you damn well know that.... there are far worse atrocities from this war that I can google and paste pictures of in here. Bottom line, you can't pick ONE photo to point out right or wrong simply because [B]THIS [/B]is the consequence of a war they CHOSE to bring upon themselves.[/quote]What's the age to vote in Lebanon? 7? 12?

I'm all for finishing off Hezbollah once and for all, but killing children is wrong, no matter whether you wear a keppel or an arafat scarf.

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Fuck these pictures of dying kids. Call me a cold hearted bastard, I probably am. When was there EVER a conflict in which innocent civillians were not killed? What is new here?

I'll tell you....whats new is that FAR less innocent civillians are being killed, but for the ones that are, 10 times the journalits and people with camera phones are there to capture it. Civillian casualties are unavoidable in an armed conflict and it nausiates me when either side tries to play it up that the other is targeting civillian

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Tell ya what then, let's round up every Lebanese we can find, put them on a train and gas them. I bet Auschwitz still has some working collective "showers".

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On different note, from reading all the posts and in general, western opionion seems to be that these muslim fundamentalists are nut job extremeists. Has anyone come across a rationaized arguement in favor of islamic fundamentalism? (one that is supported with evidence and logical thinking. I realize its hard to use facts when writing about religion) If so, I would very much like to read it.

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boss, not trying to sound like am pro war or any of this crap but you can't put "children and (insert bad situation here)" in a sentence so no brownies on guessing that.

however, do you know that it was reported that at the height of the Kargil issue in India, the terrorists groups were training and passing Militant into Kashmir who were as young as 14 year olds, brainwashed, with only 2 magazines of AK-47 (cause they would have never ventured far into the Indian territory), fucking Saran wrapped (sp?) to fight the cold and instructed to shoot any Indian at sight.

You really think if the bombings here did something bad, that they wouldn't have grown up to become another part of the radical force ?

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[quote=KinKyJ]Tell ya what then, let's round up every Lebanese we can find, put them on a train and gas them. I bet Auschwitz still has some working collective "showers".[/quote]

Thats a ridiculous response and you know it. Nowhere did I advocate the intentially killing of civilians, but rather that we can't expect to have a war free of civilian casulties and to expect otherwise is foolish.

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ya seriously, if the US is ever invaded, remind me to let the invading forces know that they have to read all the gevena and oslo laws and all others in respect to warfare. ill walk out in boxers so they know im not armed.....................

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[quote=Kamal]boss, not trying to sound like am pro war or any of this crap but you can't put "children and (insert bad situation here)" in a sentence so no brownies on guessing that.

however, do you know that it was reported that at the height of the Kargil issue in India, the terrorists groups were training and passing Militant into Kashmir who were as young as 14 year olds, brainwashed, with only 2 magazines of AK-47 (cause they would have never ventured far into the Indian territory), fucking Saran wrapped (sp?) to fight the cold and instructed to shoot any Indian at sight.

You really think if the bombings here did something bad, that they wouldn't have grown up to become another part of the radical force ?[/quote]That's why I just said to exterminate all the Lebanese... Hell, let's throw the rest of the muslims on the stake too, women and children first. Heaven forbid they grow up "to become another part of the radical force" :roll:

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[quote=threehills]Thats a ridiculous response and you know it. Nowhere did I advocate the intentially killing of civilians, but rather that we can't expect to have a war free of civilian casulties and to expect otherwise is foolish.[/quote]Very true, that's why it sickens me that the van was targeted (just to pick out one example). Israel says it will not hold back to bomb civilian targets and all of you go "Hell yeah, the fuckers should've thought twice before voting for the wrong guy." Fortunately those logics don't apply to the US ;)

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[quote=KinKyJ] "Hell yeah, the fuckers should've thought twice before voting for the wrong guy." [/quote] Almost, its more like..

"Hell yeah, (belch....obligatory crotch scratch), dem' fuckers, shoulda thought twice before voting for the wrong guy. BARBARA JEAN! GET ME ANOTHER BEER DAMMIT".

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Let's say Iran does get more involved and launces some sort of strike on Isreal. What do you think the response will be? Can the U.S. actually take on Iran militarily at the moment (using conventional weapons at least)? Is the UN capable of launching offensive missions, not just peace keeping?

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if people one day realize that we are all created the same things could be different, but I am finding it much easier to accept the current problems since there is nothing in our power to resolve it. It makes me appreciate the fact that I live in the US.

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[quote=threehills]Let's say Iran does get more involved and launces some sort of strike on Isreal. What do you think the response will be? Can the U.S. actually take on Iran militarily at the moment (using conventional weapons at least)? Is the UN capable of launching offensive missions, not just peace keeping?[/quote]

[URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showpost.php?p=349495&postcount=187"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showpost.php?p=349495&postcount=187[/URL]

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[quote=KinKyJ][URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showpost.php?p=349495&postcount=187"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showpost.php?p=349495&postcount=187[/URL][/quote]

Okay, so NATO gets mobilised. Do they just attack/bomb targets in Iran? Or go for the whole regime change thing like in Iraq?

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[quote=speciale]if people one day realize that we are all created the same things could be different, but I am finding it much easier to accept the current problems since there is nothing in our power to resolve it. It makes me appreciate the fact that I live in the US.[/quote]

I disagree, have you seen the "hottest woman for you" thread. Definitely not all created the same! :D

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[quote=threehills]Okay, so NATO gets mobilised. Do they just attack/bomb targets in Iran? Or go for the whole regime change thing like in Iraq?[/quote]You mean turning it into chaos and civil war? ya prolly...

I really dunno man, I just know if that's going to happen, we'll all be melancholic about the time when we were still posting threads about it here...

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It sure is nice to have two big oceans on both sides of the US.

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[quote=Jenks]It sure is nice to have two big oceans on both sides of the US.[/quote]That's why NK is building that giant fire cracker, innit? :D

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NK is lightyears away from having a missle that will reach us.

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IMO, let them fight it out. Our involvement is only making it worse. I just hope the poeple that live there who just want to live, can get out in time.

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[quote=KinKyJ]That's why I just said to exterminate all the Lebanese... Hell, let's throw the rest of the muslims on the stake too, women and children first. Heaven forbid they grow up "to become another part of the radical force" :roll:[/quote]

you're going all over the place with this arguement, I'm not saying those pictures are right. All I'm saying is its a consequence of a war that [U][B]they[/B][/U] have started and dont have control of anymore.

They could very well end it if they handed over the captured soldiers.... did they ?? no.

So if they couldn't care less for their own people...... it's real smart to roll eyes at sentiments of others.

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sorry about the lanuage here but this shít is getting severely fucked up

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[quote=threehills]Let's say Iran does get more involved and launces some sort of strike on Isreal. What do you think the response will be? Can the U.S. actually take on Iran militarily at the moment (using conventional weapons at least)? Is the UN capable of launching offensive missions, not just peace keeping?[/quote]

you clearly dont realize the size and capability of the US armed forces. only china is comparable. right now, the only reason they call the forces stretched thin is because that asshole rumsfeld tried to depose a dictator with a quarter of the force that should be there. this is also leading to the massive spending. god forbid the US ever had to mobilize on a scale of WW2. trust me, im not trying to talk shit, but if they ever got the politicians out of running a war, and let the generals run it with a blank check, honestly, we could essentially take europe. it is the feircest thing on the planet. thankfully, people opt not to use it. 1.4 million active, another million on reserve, not including our US based coast guard, nor the special forces that are not spoken about. roughly 32,000 aircraft including helicopters, over 10k marine vehichles, more nuclear warheads than russia coudl ever imagine, and a lot of pissed of rednecks. and a lot of loud guns. sorry, but too many common misconceptions out there.

if iran had any common sense, they would back off and stay away. because once you see this, its all over for you. tell ur god you're on ur way. because in about 3 minutes, the bomb it just dropped will go off and level your zip code.

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^ I feel better now, thanks. (seriously, was worried there for a few)

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oh, on kinky's line...

i will attempt to interject some levity. obviously i am not responsible for producing these. ignore them if you're sensitive right now.

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ummm sean I suggest you delete that pls

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what can you say at this point? its just too bad for the people who dont care abotu this shit and want to live a decent life that a small group of hate filled assholes do this every few months/years. there is only one thing that is going to happen here. isreal wins, the rest of the world will see to that. so until then, its up to the lebanese and palestinian peoples to out the vile element from their society. in regards to the inncocent kids in the pictures. while children, they lose thier innocence when thier parents allow them to be near the vile element. you cannot accept the fact that the enemy doesnt wear a uniform, and stays within the population.

god. this world sucks.

edit KAMAL DOING IT NOW>

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quit posting old shit sean, I got Erzina that shirt like ages ago :D ;)

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[quote=KinKyJ]Tell ya what then, let's round up every Lebanese we can find, put them on a train and gas them. I bet Auschwitz still has some working collective "showers".[/quote]

Kinky, you're fucking out of order there mate.

This is war. Maybe for you sitting in the nice confines of your home in Belgum or Albania or where-ever you are today life is good, but this mate is a war fucking zone, created by proxy by Iran and started by Hizbollah. What would make you happy for 10,000 Israelis to die before you will justify us using force.

No other country would put up with what we do from the Northern Border. . . and most countries would cause more fatalities.

Here an interesring statistic for you.

2000 Sorties flown by the IAF - 229 civilians killed.

Thats something like 0.11 people killed per sortie. Whilst granted infrastructure is being demolished, the IAF and IDF is doing everything to minimalise human loss.

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[quote=davetlv]Kinky, you're fucking out of order there mate.

This is war. Maybe for you sitting in the nice confines of your home in Belgum or Albania or where-ever you are today life is good, but this mate is a war fucking zone, created by proxy by Iran and started by Hizbollah. What would make you happy for 10,000 Israelis to die before you will justify us using force.

No other country would put up with what we do from the Northern Border. . . and most countries would cause more fatalities.

Here an interesring statistic for you.

2000 Sorties flown by the IAF - 229 civilians killed.

Thats something like 0.11 people killed per sortie. Whilst granted infrastructure is being demolished, the IAF and IDF is doing everything to minimalise human loss.[/quote]Wow wow wow chill Dave, I'll be the last one who will say that Israel can't hit back. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, the IAF didn't have to wait for the kidnappings to wipe out Hezbollah.

What I said was a reaction to the "the civilians should can it and eat bombs cuz they've voted for Hezbollah in the first place" - tendancy in this thread. Nothing else. Hence the sarcasm...

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Nice thread peeps, time for my 2 cents.

kinky, you redeemed yourself earlier in this thread i though maybe you were not a dickhead, but you are. bad call.

Davetlv, I am glad to hear the IAF are trying not to kill civils, but they are still dying.
It is a sticky situation, with 700 rockets falling on your cities in a few weeks it is hard to see the right way to respond, when your citzs are killed and solides kidnapped then yep something has to be done, but what?

this comment off the bbc seemed rather fitting.

[quote]I guess the ultimate questions is... Will Israel's approach lead to peace and safety for its people?

If anyone believes that this action will lead to a lasting peace for the people of israel...

please explain it to me....cause i don't see it Israel's not so surgical approach will only strengthen its enemies by weakening the moderate position in Lebanon...[/quote] Sightless, fuck you make me laugh, without fail, everytime. Europe would kick the US ass, the french would nuke you and take the result rather than live under the rule of an American, Germans yes, yanks no! But seriously chap, a Europe United would be an equal match for the US of A, we'd even have the home advantage over you!

Back to WW3, if it does kick off then who the fuck would mount an attack on the West? The worst case would be massive terrorist action in Europe and USA (if we joined in that is) other than that i suspect other than Israel, no other unfriendly middle eastern country would have the technology or resources to mount an attack on europe let alone cross the atlantic. I'm sure once Iran has nukes then it would be a different story, time to build a shelter.

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[quote=Morgan]kinky, you redeemed yourself earlier in this thread i though maybe you were not a dickhead, but you are. bad call.[/quote]Care to elaborate that little doggie or are you gonna bark all night long? :roll:

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[quote=Morgan] Europe would kick the US ass, the french would nuke you and take the result rather than live under the rule of an American, Germans yes, yanks no! But seriously chap, a Europe United would be an equal match for the US of A, we'd even have the home advantage over you![/quote]

1. LMAO

2. Europe isn't united.

3. "All your base are belong to us."

4. The French? LMAO [URL="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html"]http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html[/URL]

Carry on.

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^^^ what he said

-edit- [quote=Jenks]4. The French? LMAO [URL="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html"]http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html[/URL][/quote]LMAO! Good find Jenks :lol:

Hell, the French even got owned by the little would be cuntry (no typo) I live in :roll:

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^ What they both said.

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hahaha, i wasnt even trying to be like that. just was explaining that it isnt stretched thin. and obviously, he has never seen a squadron of f-16's fully loaded flying by. scariest thing i have ever seen (army navy game)

i tell ya one thing. livni and olmert are doing a great job in dealing with the media.

also, MUCH respect to lebanese officials for ordering thier army to stand down and allowing isreal to get these violent groups out. i just learned about this, and actually, it garnered a lot of respect on my account that they arent reacting, but allowing this to go on, hopefully eliminating a group that would otherwise continue to wreak havoc on isreal and the rest of the region. weird, but yeah, i actually respect that they understand that they cant do it themselves, and someone finally got as pissed off as america with these cuntz. hard stances are the only way with criminal elements. now if only america could apply it to their criminal law ans sentencing.