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[QUOTE=Steve Graham;874876]lol, I don't wish injury, but I hope those 3 doosh bags have zero chemistry and don't win shit

I say that because Cleveland and the fans bent over backwards for this ass, and this is how he repays them? he is NOT about winning, he is about "Lebron Inc"[/QUOTE]

they been fondlin' his balls since he was in jr. high bro.

I think the RIGHT choice is NYC if he's goin' anywhere. Stock in Lebron Inc. would SKYROCKET.

Plus, with Bosh/Wade, and then Lebron, that salarycap in Miami is about 2 mil, so everyone else would have to take cuts. NOT gonna happen (unless he sells low). They gotta pay 7 other players, and with d-listers, i don't think they'll get past the 2nd round.

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i'll be glad when its over. we say how tired we are of it yet we're all sitting on pins and needles if you take a look at this blog... lol.

the question is how long are they going to talk about it AFTER he makes a decision... more than likely until he wins a championship. ho hum. soap opera for dudes.

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what if Lebron has his press conference today, and instead of picking a team, he says he is retiring cause he knows he'll never win a ring. 50/1 odds

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LMAO... you win best creativity award my friend.

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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;874919]what if Lebron has his press conference today, and instead of picking a team, he says he is retiring cause he knows he'll never win a ring. 50/1 odds[/QUOTE]

would only happen if he joined the Indians' minor league baseball team brah.

just bought lebronjamesisacocksucker.com

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lool yeah, true indeed. you done did invoke the rage up of albert belle! :vuvu:

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in other news, wale announced he will be doing another "mixtape about nothing" dropping august 3rd on his twitter today!! DC stand up!!

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MIAMI BEACH BABY!!!

the cleveland jinx continuous...feel very sorry for that town.

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Miami it is

[url]http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/08/lebron-james-to-play-with-miami-heat/?hpt=C1[/url]

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think he handled it pretty well. he's saying some class things right now too

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Can't blame him one bit... miami is not a bad place to be right now for many reasons.

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Lejoke is a goddamned liar. "oh i decided when i woke up this morning"

bullshit. you had your contracts to end exactly when wade's did you dumb phaggot.

his legacy is ruined. everyone is saying this was such a retarded and classless move.

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lakeshow gun beat the heat next year to win another title? fasho

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;874980][IMG]http://i26.tinypic.com/f01vc.jpg[/IMG]

Lejoke is a goddamned liar. "oh i decided when i woke up this morning"

bullshit. you had your contracts to end exactly when wade's did you dumb phaggot.

his legacy is ruined. everyone is saying this was such a retarded and classless move.[/QUOTE]

your the olnly one

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beasley is out, bad move imo

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i can gurantee this. it will be a hellova lot more fun going out in miami beach than it would be in ctown. this was a no brainer decision imo.

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[QUOTE=Miguel;875049]your the olnly one[/QUOTE]

actually you are completly wrong. look at this letter from Cavs Owner dan gilbert.

[I][URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/cleveland-cavaliers/71079"][B][COLOR=#556670]Cleveland Cavaliers[/COLOR][/B][/URL] owner Dan Gilbert posted this letter on Cavs.com after [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/lebron-james/139949"][B][COLOR=#556670]LeBron James[/COLOR][/B][/URL] decided he was leaving for the [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/miami-heat/71088"][B][COLOR=#556670]Miami Heat[/COLOR][/B][/URL].[/I]

Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;

[B][COLOR=#1a303a][/COLOR][/B] As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.

This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.

Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.

There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you. You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.

You have given so much and deserve so much more.In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight: "I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE" You can take it to the bank.

If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there. Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become.

But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio. The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma. Just watch.

Sleep well, Cleveland. Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day....

I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:

DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue....

Dan Gilbert Majority Owner Cleveland Cavaliers

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Guess we'll see how important winning is to him. When he's pouting cuz Wade gets the ball in final minutes. Time will tell if these guys can win together but I think Lebron looks more like a self-indulged asshole. Much of the blame is on espn but we all know it won't fall that way.

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[SIZE=4]Owner Dan Gilbert says Lebron quit playing in NBA playoffs[/SIZE]

CLEVELAND - Angered and betrayed by LeBron James' decision to leave for Miami, Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert accused the NBA's MVP of quitting during the playoffs.

Gilbert, who [URL="http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/gilberts_letter_to_fans_james.html"][B][COLOR=#305cb6]posted a letter to Cavs fans[/COLOR][/B][/URL] on the team's website shortly after James announced his plans to sign with the Heat, told The Associated Press late Thursday night that it's "accountability time" for James.

"He has gotten a free pass," Gilbert said in a phone interview with The AP. "People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is."

Gilbert feels James quit on the Cavs during their second-round series against the Boston Celtics, who rallied from a 2-1 deficit to eliminate Cleveland.

"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."

The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.

Gilbert also said he believes James quit on the Cavs in Game 6 of their series in 2009 against Orlando.

"Go back and look at the tape," he said. "How many shots did he take?"

Gilbert, who has owned the Cavs for five years, said he was most disappointed by James' behavior in the months leading up to the superstar's announcement that he is going to Miami to play with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Gilbert said James never returned a single phone message or text since the end of the season and that the Cavs were not informed of James' decision until he went on the air.

Gilbert said Rich Paul, one of James' business partners, called the Cavs moments before the announcement.

"LeBron James needs to go to another team with two superstars already so he can win a championship," Gilbert said. "We will win a championship before (the Heat) do."

Gilbert said he now wishes he had done some things differently with James, who spent seven seasons with the Cavs.

"It's not about him leaving," Gilbert said. "It's the disrespect. It's time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children? I've been holding this all in for a long time."

In Miami, Wade said he was stunned by Gilbert's comments.

"I think I'm happy that I have the owner that I have here in Miami," Wade told The Associated Press late Thursday night. "I'm happy Micky Arison is my owner. I couldn't believe it. I'm speechless. It's very unfortunate and I think it makes LeBron that much better about his decision.

"We knew 'Bron would take some backlash," Wade added in his interview with AP. "I told him he's a strong man for it."

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^^^saw that remember cleveland teams have never won any championship in any pro sports. all the hopes were on james, thats why the response from everyone in clev.

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[QUOTE=Miguel;875093]^^^saw that remember cleveland teams have never won any championship in any pro sports. all the hopes were on james, thats why the response from everyone in clev.[/QUOTE]

actually Cleveland won a world series in 1947 and an NFL championship in 1964 but they havent won any championship in any sport in the last 46 years, which is the longest such drought in any sports city.

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"backlash" indeed, these guys need to stop crying...

...why do they keep saying they've been betrayed? I know he grew up there, played hs basketball there and probably made championship promises to Cleveland, but other than that, did he promise he would stay there for a set period of time?

Can someone articulate why Cleveland is so shocked?

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Because they ain't got shit else goin' on there.

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^I nearly forgot... that's true huh, Lebron symbolized hope and a future for Cleveland, and now they are real bitter about him leaving.

I heard Cleveland fans were (literally) begging in the streets the last few days for Lebron to stay :shock:

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[QUOTE=Miguel;875049]your the olnly one[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=chuckc;875071]i can gurantee this. it will be a hellova lot more fun going out in miami beach than it would be in ctown. this was a no brainer decision imo.[/QUOTE]

Michael Jordan announced on national television he's leaving Chicago to join the Detroit Pistons. Jordan said it was tough to bolt Chicago, where he was the most popular athlete in many years, because he thinks he has a better chance to win a championship if he plays with Pistons star Isiah Thomas. Jordan said by playing together, he and Thomas "won't have the pressure of going out and scoring 30 every night." That would have sounded absurd, right? Well, it is no more absurd than what LeBron James is doing. Jordan was 27 years old in 1990, slightly older than James is now. He had never been to the NBA Finals. He had been beaten up by the Celtics and Pistons for years. He doubted his supporting cast was good enough. But he never doubted himself. And it became very clear Thursday night that LeBron James does doubt himself. James will be a champion in Miami -- if not next year, then sometime after that. If you put James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh together and give Pat Riley five years to find the complementary pieces, that team will win a championship. But James does not have the heart of a champion. He does not have the competitive fire of Jordan, the bull-headed determination of Kobe Bryant, the quiet self-confidence of Tim Duncan, the willful defiance of Isiah or the winning-is-everything hunger of Magic Johnson. He is an extremely gifted player who wants the easy way out. And how do we know this? James said so himself. Oh, not in so many words. But once ESPN was done ESPN-izing its LeBron coverage -- filling it with babbling experts, needless hype and Jim Gray submitting his top six entries in the Stupidest Question Ever contest -- the self-proclaimed King said everything you need to know about him.

1. "You have to do what's best for you, and what's going to make you happy." This is what's going to make him happy? Sharing a stage with two other stars? Really? I guess that's all LeBron is: A complementary player with superstar talent. We should have figured this out before: He got that giant CHOSEN 1 tattoo on his back and calls himself King James because he is desperate for reassurance. There is no greater challenge in sports getting drafted by a godawful team, planting your flag in a city and working like crazy until you have turned that team into a champion. LeBron James didn't want the challenge. He wanted to play with his buddies.
2. "We don't have the pressure of going out and scoring 30 every night or shooting a high percentage." Whoa. Hold on there. Scoring 30 a night is too much pressure for one of the five most talented players ever? Find me another all-time NBA great who would utter those words. Jordan would rather do an adidas commercial than say that. Bryant must have laughed as he heard the so-called "King" say that. Larry Bird? The next time he complains about pressure will be the first. Magic was the greatest team player of the last 40 years, but he was also so competitive that he wanted to play Jordan one-on-one in a promotional event -- and this was when Magic had won titles and Jordan had not, so Magic had more to lose.
3. "I know how loyal I am." The man just dumped his hometown(s) on national television. Cleveland (and, by extension, Akron) happens to be the most tortured sports city in America. To do that, then say "I know how loyal I am" ... wow, wow, wow. I wish I could sit in on one of LeBron's meetings with his advisers. Does he make them all wear mirrored sunglasses, so that when he looks at them he sees himself? We really don't ask that much of our sports stars. Try not to get arrested for anything big. Don't curse at the fans. You know, small stuff. We even understand that 95 percent of the time, they will make career decisions based on money -- we might not love it, but we understand it. But see, the biggest thing that we ask of our sports stars is this: Take the competition as seriously as we do. When LeBron James loses to Boston in the playoffs, we want him to take the heat, not take the Heat's offer. We want him to spend the summer adding to his game, calling and texting his teammates, plotting to do better next season. Instead, well ...
4. "It's about joining forces with the other two guys." He sounds like a nine-year-old playing Star Wars games with his buddies at a sleepover. And again: I do believe this Miami team will win a title. But it won't be as easy as he wants it to be. Miami will have the weakest bench of any contender next season After that, the NBA will have a lockout, and the league could eliminate the mid-level exception, which would be Miami's best tool for adding talent. So this is a cop-out, but it's not as easy of a cop-out as it appears. And that brings us to ...
5. "This is the greatest challenge for me." LeBron James just jumped into an elevator and wants us to think he can fly. Sorry, but we know better. We know that he did something Michael, Magic, Bird and Bill Russell never would have done. We know he ditched Cleveland for an All-Star team. But you know what? In Miami, anything short of a title will be a failure. Nobody outside of Miami will root for this team, and nobody in Miami roots for anybody. They're too busy enjoying the weather. I thought he would stay in Cleveland, because I thought all he cared about was adoration. I was wrong about Cleveland, but he is wrong about adoration. He thinks he'll get it by winning a title. He has insulated himself from the world, surrounded himself with yes men. He has no idea how much backlash he is about to get. That's one of the great ironies of this -- James is trying to flee pressure, but he will just face more of it. He is trying to maximize his "brand," but he just damaged it. The first time I watched LeBron James live, I thought he could be the greatest player ever. The sad truth for us, for him, and for the NBA is that he never really believed it himself.

Read more: [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/07/08/lebron.event/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0tCaudD8H[/url]

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Lebron is a goddamn moron. Nobody will forget this.

This isn't about the cleveland fans being angry as all hell - they have every right to be. That motherfucker QUIT on them in the finals the last two years. That motherfucker wore Cowboys jerseys to Browns games. Yankees hats to Indians games. Classless retard.

I can't wait to see what Skip Bayless says about him to tonight at 10.

The only people not trashing LeBron for this move are 1) the 15 or so Heat fans and 2) LeBron Nut-Fondlers and 3) people who think geography defines a team and 4) people who think it's more important to be a celebrity than a legend.

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i agree with most of the post. I am from cleveland and also lived & went to college in Akron and am pissed he didnt stay.... but admit it he partly went for the fun factor. more of a party lifestyle, haning and playing wiht his boys. he loves the media attention and miami is the perfect spot for it.

i was just back in ctown for the first time in a while. and boy has it changed drastically. they bulldozed the " cleveland flats" (water front restaurants/clubs/bars/concert halls/stipclubs) where we used to hang out growing up and it now just is an open field that sits empty. it is much more ghetto downtown there were g-rides everwhere in the party areas.

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My friend is from Columbus and said that if he leaves the city is going to be pretty much total shit, she said it has gotten pretty bad there now and there isn't a whole lot of opportunity and with him leaving the economy is going to take an even bigger hit.

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^^^^yeah ur friend is right.. i couldnt belive my eyes when i walked down thru the ctown flats. totally deserted and mostly demolished. its hard to believe actually. very depressing.

all i have to say is the browns have got to turn it around for that town to bounce back. they love there sports and this has got to sting.

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[QUOTE=chuckc;875137]i agree with most of the post. I am from cleveland and also lived & went to college in Akron and am pissed he didnt stay.... but admit it he partly went for the fun factor. more of a party lifestyle, haning and playing wiht his boys. he loves the media attention and miami is the perfect spot for it.

i was just back in ctown for the first time in a while. and boy has it changed drastically. they bulldozed the " cleveland flats" (water front restaurants/clubs/bars/concert halls/stipclubs) where we used to hang out growing up and it now just is an open field that sits empty. it is much more ghetto downtown there were g-rides everwhere in the party areas.[/QUOTE]

If he had joined the Knicks (who I hate as a pacers fan) or the Bulls (who i kinda like b/c i grew up with them), I would have totally understood. yes, the Cleve would have been heartbroken still. But they're downright angry at the way he did it. The way he threw the playoffs the last two years. The way he just never gave a fuck about anyone but lebron. People willfully ignored it, but now it's just slapped them in the face.

I feel bad, but you know, the rest of the country sans Miami-area fans are lol-ing at this move.

I just..don't know HOW he could have chosen miami. I mean, I understand. You want your ring. You want it served on a silver plater. And you don't want to work hard for it. But rings aside, nobody will respect that. Respect is earned. And he's just taken the easy way out. I understand, but then, I also don't.

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well, all i can say is that the sun shines brighter today in Wade County, as I drive thru Ponce De Lebron Blvd on my way to Key Boschcaine

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i can see both sides of the argument on whether it was a good or bad decision. there are pros and cons for whatever move lebron made. its ultimately his choice, not yours (general public). i think the cleveland owner though, showed he's a classless idiot with his messages. never publish something when your emotions are running high. chances are you'll sound like an idiot.

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^^ and he did

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South Beach > fucking Ohio. end of story. Get over it.

Dan Gilbert sounds like a whiney bitch in that letter, you stay classy Dan. Good luck getting free agents to come there now that they all know you'll roll on them the second you don't get your way, as if it wasn't already tough enough to get good players in Cleveland. Dan was sucking LeBron's cock all along, and he's just mad that Lebron finally got some glasses and took a good look around at the dire situation that is Cleveland sports and headed for a better life for himself. He gave the Cavs 7 years, and the problem is they couldn't get high end people around him because it's fucking Cleeeeeeveland and nobody wants to go there, DUH.

And the comparison's to Jordan are ridiculous. LeBron isn't Jordan, he isn't even Kobe. I listened to AM talk radio all day about this nonsense, Cleveland fans calling in whining about he owed them something, they raised him, lebron needs them, blah blah...no, you need lebron, he doesn't need you. The fans in Miami will scream his name just like the ones in Ohio did.

I'll bet he woke up this morning with two south beach honeys on each side on a 200 meter yacht parked in the intercoastal waterway sippin champagne and said, Cleve...what? He'll wing a ring, and yeah his legacy won't be the same because he couldn't do it by himself in freaking OHIO, but my money is on him sleeping juuuuuuuuuust fine with a couple of world championships and south beach life. If you're mad and crying today you're putting too much of yourself into these freaking athelets.

What's going to be hilarious is when Phil Jackson and the Lakers mop the floor with El Heat in the finals next year. LOL. The Lakers JUST won the title, and all the talk is about LeBron, don't think they haven't noticed. Phil and Kobe live for this shit.

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^Right on Jenks and lets face it, Lebron hasn't performed well when the pressure has been on him. How's he gonna deal with the spotlight on this team ALL year? HE DID QUIT in the playoffs against the Celtics he's as talented as anyone who has stepped on the floor but right now lacks the "heart of a champion" imo of course

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[QUOTE=Jenks;875238]South Beach > fucking Ohio. end of story. Get over it.

Dan Gilbert sounds like a whiney bitch in that letter, you stay classy Dan. Good luck getting free agents to come there now that they all know you'll roll on them the second you don't get your way, as if it wasn't already tough enough to get good players in Cleveland. Dan was sucking LeBron's cock all along, and he's just mad that Lebron finally got some glasses and took a good look around at the dire situation that is Cleveland sports and headed for a better life for himself. He gave the Cavs 7 years, and the problem is they couldn't get high end people around him because it's fucking Cleeeeeeveland and nobody wants to go there, DUH.

And the comparison's to Jordan are ridiculous. LeBron isn't Jordan, he isn't even Kobe. I listened to AM talk radio all day about this nonsense, Cleveland fans calling in whining about he owed them something, they raised him, lebron needs them, blah blah...no, you need lebron, he doesn't need you. The fans in Miami will scream his name just like the ones in Ohio did.

I'll bet he woke up this morning with two south beach honeys on each side on a 200 meter yacht parked in the intercoastal waterway sippin champagne and said, Cleve...what? He'll wing a ring, and yeah his legacy won't be the same because he couldn't do it by himself in freaking OHIO, but my money is on him sleeping juuuuuuuuuust fine with a couple of world championships and south beach life. If you're mad and crying today you're putting too much of yourself into these freaking athelets.

What's going to be hilarious is when Phil Jackson and the Lakers mop the floor with El Heat in the finals next year. LOL. The Lakers JUST won the title, and all the talk is about LeBron, don't think they haven't noticed. Phil and Kobe live for this shit.[/QUOTE]

This sounds a lot like reality to me.

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^yeah, jenks pretty much nailed it. wtf does he OWE the city? they should give him a lear jet and a tony montana pile of cocaine for all the money he brought into the city.

shit brett favre played for the packers for 15 damn years and you dont see the owners bitching him out switching teams, he was a fucking god in green bay. (i am going to lambeau in october too to see the vikings @ packers game) :)

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[QUOTE=Jenks;875238]South Beach > fucking Ohio. end of story. Get over it.

Dan Gilbert sounds like a whiney bitch in that letter, you stay classy Dan. Good luck getting free agents to come there now that they all know you'll roll on them the second you don't get your way, as if it wasn't already tough enough to get good players in Cleveland. Dan was sucking LeBron's cock all along, and he's just mad that Lebron finally got some glasses and took a good look around at the dire situation that is Cleveland sports and headed for a better life for himself. He gave the Cavs 7 years, and the problem is they couldn't get high end people around him because it's fucking Cleeeeeeveland and nobody wants to go there, DUH.

And the comparison's to Jordan are ridiculous. LeBron isn't Jordan, he isn't even Kobe. I listened to AM talk radio all day about this nonsense, Cleveland fans calling in whining about he owed them something, they raised him, lebron needs them, blah blah...no, you need lebron, he doesn't need you. The fans in Miami will scream his name just like the ones in Ohio did.

I'll bet he woke up this morning with two south beach honeys on each side on a 200 meter yacht parked in the intercoastal waterway sippin champagne and said, Cleve...what? He'll wing a ring, and yeah his legacy won't be the same because he couldn't do it by himself in freaking OHIO, but my money is on him sleeping juuuuuuuuuust fine with a couple of world championships and south beach life. If you're mad and crying today you're putting too much of yourself into these freaking athelets.

What's going to be hilarious is when Phil Jackson and the Lakers mop the floor with El Heat in the finals next year. LOL. The Lakers JUST won the title, and all the talk is about LeBron, don't think they haven't noticed. Phil and Kobe live for this shit.[/QUOTE]

This isn't about the cleveland fans you phag. who gives a shit. this is about his legacy. and he's fucked it up. end of. he's a good ball player, but the only people fondling his cock are espn, the dozen or so heat fans, and you. lulz.

his decision was made in 2008, to go wherever wade ended up at the end of thier contracts. he didn't even try to bring wade to cleveland. he can't close when it matters. end of.

The issue with him being compared to jordan is that.....he's DEFINTELY got those skills. At least in the regular season as we all now know. A lot of people thought his youth and his skills would have made him GOAT easily. We're not talking about 'oh he's good" we're talking "he could be the fucking GOAT". Well...nobody is having that conversation anymore.

by the extension of your poorly thought out argument, no team outside of LA, NYC, Chicago, or Miami should ever be angry that one of their hometown heros took a dump on their city and left for the bright lights (btw, Lebron couldn't even handle being in NYC ffs. too much attention. too much responsibility). And it's the way he did it. You can shift the blame to gilbert all you want, but that doesn't take away from the utter self-flagellation that Lebron is about.

for your sake, i hope lbjoke washes his nuts

btw, even tho lebron pretty much ruined his legacy, i still found this funny.

[video=youtube;xZr2qOXQJ4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZr2qOXQJ4w&feature=player_embedded[/video]