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[QUOTE]pot shots @ people LOL come on man that's crazy, what kill ten people max before ur caught? hardly going to make a name for urself by doing amateur shit like this on the world stage are u and of course doing shit like this is going to draw lots and lots of members to joining up for the cause.[/QUOTE]

Really. that's exactly what the IRA did. Gun a few people down, disappear of the map, come back again in a few months and do it again. Everyone is shit scared to leave the house. Do you reckon training people to train people to train people draws lots of people to your cause?

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the last couple rounds of 'terror' were just a couple of jackasses

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954885]the last couple rounds of 'terror' were just a couple of jackasses[/QUOTE]

I don't know if you are being sarcastic but I agree with your statement

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^I'm not actually...they were just a couple of idiots really.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954879]So because he has a smaller amount in his pants you are lead to believe that it must be somehow more volatile. But you have no evidence of this? I'm saying I reckon they had just the right amount to cause an effect and nothing more. Funny you bring up the printer cartridges, they never went off either. Just enough to cause a stir. Is this really the MO of a highly trained and funded terrorist organisation. If it is I for one am not impressed. I fact I've seen better performance at work from people who spend half their day in the toilet and the other half exchanging extreme porn and happy slapping videos on their mobile phone.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triacetone_triperoxide[/url]

this was the stuff they found on the pants bomber, a thing i touched on earlier comes into play here, what i touched on was the someone who i presume is highly trained is feeding these guys the info on how to cook up shit like this.. if you or i were to type into google right now " how do i make Triacetone triperoxide" the chances are your ip would be flagged straight away and i,m not sure on this but i,m guessing you would be put on some sort of level of watch list also u don't really walk straight into the library and find a book on how to cook this shit up so walking into a place with knowledge to make shit like this is dodgy unless you are known...if the so called pants bomber did this then suspicion would automatically arise, it would be like u and ur wife walking into a well known gay bar and kissing each other in front of everyone, everyone in the place would be like "wtf are they doing in here"...this kinda brings me back to the "reach of al qaeda" part.

he was probably following "orders" set by people who are higher up the ranking and if this guy was responsible for the actual manufacturing of the compound he would of been given a recipe and instructions on how to do it ( although there is no proof of this ) ... if not then this compound would of been made in some sort of bomb factory where ever that maybe... if i was a terrorist in a bomb factory not wanting to draw attention to myself would i go out somewhere with a little of the compound to blow it up just to make sure it worked ? NO, it would draw attention to me! i think u kinda under estimate just how dodgy this is m8

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[QUOTE=chunky;954883]Haven't you contradicted yourself here? one minute your telling us they are trained they you state that you can't have untrained terrorist causing havoc. So you reckon they are just passing the skills on down a long line of people in case one day one of them decides to actually do something. Have you any evidence to support your claim that they have infiltrated somewhere. They have had 15 year to get there shit together, how long does it take.[/QUOTE]

i,m not contradicting my self here @ all ... the objective word in my quote is " cant "...

i,ve asked u this before lol don't u think that people running around assault courses in the desert is dangerous ? why is this even there ? ask yourself what they learn while they are there ? its hardly going back to school with ur m8s and going to the swing park material m8

even though these people maybe only there for a number of weeks they then probably make contacts who further assist them in their cause by passing info ( what ever that info may be )... what about the people that are training them in the desert ? do u think they are not skilled ? where did these people get their own skills from ? a trip the to library ?

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[QUOTE=chunky;954884]Really. that's exactly what the IRA did. Gun a few people down, disappear of the map, come back again in a few months and do it again. Everyone is shit scared to leave the house. Do you reckon training people to train people to train people draws lots of people to your cause?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Irish_Republican_Army_training_manual[/url])

i,m a politician and i really want al qaeda writting shit like this and handing it out all over the place...lessons were learned

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plus the IRA are on a so much different level that these guys as i,ve stated before

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954891]^I'm not actually...they were just a couple of idiots really.[/QUOTE]

i agree also but i think there has been planning behind the scenes by much more intelligent people that got these people as far as they got

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You should host the VMA's, you monologue like a mofo

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:lol:

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[QUOTE=Kamal;954905]You should host the VMA's, you monologue like a mofo[/QUOTE]

i,ve always wanted to meet lady gaga she's my hero, can we have a sub forum on the promo's section ?

in fact cancel that thought...she's illuminati :lol:

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;954896][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Irish_Republican_Army_training_manual[/url])

i,m a politician and i really want al qaeda writting shit like this and handing it out all over the place...lessons were learned[/QUOTE]

Just out of interest, do you know how wikipedia works? because you are contradicting yourself yet again?

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I will take Wikipeda's info generally above any other one sided site/blog for the most part.

Not every article (or even any of them you could say is ever 100% accurate), but this will tend to skew towards the truth the more time goes on and the more people who are involved due to it being crowdsourced. The bigger and more visible the issue and the more people involved this becomes even more evident that this works. So because of this you can't discount it as incorrect just because people are 'guessing'

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[QUOTE=chunky;954916]Just out of interest, do you know how wikipedia works? because you are contradicting yourself yet again?[/QUOTE]

yes i do, most of it written by the public, but there has to be a subject in the first place for people to write on it

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954919]I will take Wikipeda's info generally above any other one sided site/blog for the most part.

Not every article (or even any of them you could say is ever 100% accurate), but this will tend to skew towards the truth the more time goes on and the more people who are involved due to it being crowdsourced. The bigger and more visible the issue and the more people involved this becomes even more evident that this works. So because of this you can't discount it as incorrect just because people are 'guessing'[/QUOTE]

Yes I agree but when people are not willing to watch any videos evidence, interviews or news on the TV along with believing there is some underground network of terrorist infiltrating our country's governments and training some super soldier to train some super soldier to train some super soldier who mite eventually use these skills, one day, maybe, if they can be bothered then refer to wikipedia I find it a bit odd. the same goverments that told us about these terrorists also told us a bout these in the Afghan mountains

[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/71chunky/odds/netherpopup.gif[/IMG]

Surley if this was the truth Bin Laden would have been hiding in one of these not a compound in Pakistan. I can upload the video where Cheney and Rumsfeld made these claims if anyone wants

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[QUOTE=chunky;954926]Yes I agree but when people are not willing to watch any videos evidence, interviews or news on the TV along with believing there is some underground network of terrorist infiltrating our country's governments and training some super soldier to train some super soldier to train some super soldier who mite eventually use these skills, one day, maybe, if they can be bothered then refer to wikipedia I find it a bit odd. the same goverments that told us about tterrorists also told us a bout these in the Afghan mountains

[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/71chunky/odds/netherpopup.gif[/IMG]

Surley if this was the truth Bin Laden would have been hiding in one of these not a compound in Pakistan. I can upload the video where Cheney and Rumsfeld made these claims if anyone wants[/QUOTE]

:lol: You can cite that picture till the end of time and try and state that one newsweek infographic that is incorrect therefore makes everyone who doesn't believe that Osama was killed 7 years ago wrong, but that isn't the case.

I think of it as more of: the general public as a whole believes what is on wikipedia, and this is the general consensus which is correct. Since crazy conspiracy theories are relegated to #Conspiracy subtopics on the Wikipedia pages related to terorism, you want to claim that the 99% that believe this are wrong, but I'll go ahead and say that it's really the other way around...

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954928]:lol: You can cite that picture till the end of time and try and state that one newsweek infographic that is incorrect therefore makes everyone who doesn't believe that Osama was killed 7 years ago wrong, but that isn't the case. .[/QUOTE]

I can upload the video if you want! Have I at any point stated that I think Bin Laden was killed 7 years ago, so I would be happy if you can point me in the direction of where I made this claim.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954931]I can upload the video if you want! Have I at any point stated that I think Bin Laden was killed 7 years ago, so I would be happy if you can point me in the direction of where I made this claim.[/QUOTE]

I think you are not focusing on my point. Just because the MSM posted a picture and it didn't turn out to be true, doesn't mean that the 99% of people who don't believe in conspiracy theories are automatically wrong.

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Oh and banned1 I do intend on responding to your other posts but I've been left holding the baby so it mite take a few days.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954932]I think you are not focusing on my point. Just because the MSM posted a picture and it didn't turn out to be true, doesn't mean that the 99% of people who don't believe in conspiracy theories are automatically wrong.[/QUOTE]

Did Cheney and Rumsfeld also make the claim or not? I'm not saying they are wrong but people who have been accepted the idea of this big terror network are.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954934]Did Cheney and Rumsfeld also make the claim or not?[/QUOTE]

WTF does that have to do with Wikipedia? Geez.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954926]Yes I agree but when people are not willing to watch any videos evidence, interviews or news on the TV along with believing there is some underground network of terrorist infiltrating our country's governments and training some super soldier to train some super soldier to train some super soldier who mite eventually use these skills, one day, maybe, if they can be bothered then refer to wikipedia I find it a bit odd. the same goverments that told us about these terrorists also told us a bout these in the Afghan mountains

[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/71chunky/odds/netherpopup.gif[/IMG]

Surley if this was the truth Bin Laden would have been hiding in one of these not a compound in Pakistan. I can upload the video where Cheney and Rumsfeld made these claims if anyone wants[/QUOTE]

so the info on wikki is less accurate that's what u see in the news or read in the papers ? unfortunately this cant be verified either way but yea u do have a point about wikki, i was just using it for quickness. i,m certainly not going to watch video's made to feed the mass hype or paranoid thoughts of the general population because people are disillusioned about why their government are telling them small bits of info on a war and its seen as lies...these program are just made to hype up a war on the viewing ratings, at the end of the day TV is a business.

you talk or seem to be taking the piss out the fact my thoughts on this are a bit radical or far fetched but in the same thread you say that the CIA and MI6 and other intelligence agencies have been aiding in plots to blow planes out the sky etc ( oh sorry the bombs were not meant to go off ) so putting this to rest once and for all we seen to have a difference in opinion on this so lets just leave it @ that, deal ?

radicalism comes in many different forms, radicalism on religious views and another one no one has brought up is the fact that so many of the western world have themselves been radicalised into the lour of conspiracy theories.. although they are at different levels they should be considered in the same light.

you have no idea nor do i how the forces of the world operate so there really is no point in taking this further but you should learn and learn fast that spin doctoring is a huge part of it.. half these people in al qaeda feed on the fact that over here there are many doubters as it makes them think there are people who are sympathetic towards them.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954933]Oh and banned1 I do intend on responding to your other posts but I've been left holding the baby so it mite take a few days.[/QUOTE]

k chris, happy nappy changing m8 ;)

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Let's not bring the Bush regime into this convo please, they are a bunch of war mongering fucks.

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[QUOTE=chunky;954934]Did Cheney and Rumsfeld also make the claim or not? I'm not saying they are wrong but people who have been accepted the idea of this big terror network are.[/QUOTE]

I don't really believe in 'this big scary terror network', it is just the damn media hyping shit up like always. Small groups of people who want to kill others sure. But not a top down military structure with Osama at the top, and now that he is gone everything is peachy. No way.

I saw talk last week about some of the people fighting in the middle east don't even know about 9/11, I wouldn't doubt it. Killing him isn't going to fix anything, just piss some people off in the short term is all. It will just keep going on and on....

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954944]I don't really believe in 'this big scary terror network', it is just the damn media hyping shit up like always. Small groups of people who want to kill others sure. But not a top down military structure with Osama at the top, and now that he is gone everything is peachy. No way.

I saw talk last week about some of the people fighting in the middle east don't even know about 9/11, I wouldn't doubt it. Killing him isn't going to fix anything, just piss some people off in the short term is all. It will just keep going on and on....[/QUOTE]

yea i read something about 90% of afghans not knowing what 9/11 was and yea you're right killing osama aint gonna solve shit either

but there must of been quite a few people went through these so called "training camps" for them to have been noticed around the world but just how many of these guys are radicalised enough to actually want to take their own lives for a cause is another matter, still doesn't make them any less dangerous though.

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban[/url]

this is quite a painful read

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"Obama is dead, we got him."

[url]http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28063.htm[/url]

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[QUOTE=dig72;954961]"Obama is dead, we got him."

[url]http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28063.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

On a scale of 1 to Pissed, where are you since that has a headline of it being fiction? 8.4 - 8.7?

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;954941]Let's not bring the Bush regime into this convo please, they are a bunch of war mongering DUMB fucks.[/QUOTE]

Fixed

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lulz

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Lmfao @ informationclearinghouse.info, isn't that the lottery infomercial they show on tv all the time?

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Must not have won the lottery lately, they cant even afford a .com

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;954965]On a scale of 1 to Pissed, where are you since that has a headline of it being fiction? 8.4 - 8.7?[/QUOTE]

Really?

Shit, must've missed it.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;954969]Lmfao @ informationclearinghouse.info, isn't that the lottery infomercial they show on tv all the time?[/QUOTE]

Yeah it sure is funny, not much useful information on that sight is there.

We'll stick to the WP, NYT or our equivalent, The Herald Sun, The Age. That'll learn us.

Comments by Pakistans PM Gilani, in response to future attacks by the US on its soil.

[url]http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/pakistan-pm-‘full-force’-response-to-future-us-raids/[/url]

Oops, I did it again.

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:lol:

You do know that those sites listed are mainstream because they aren't totally fucking crazy, like the site you've listed above right? It isn't because we are all dumb sheep, it is because we are not fucking crazy jackasses.

Also the Paki PM can spout all he wants, if Obama wants to come over and give it to him over the coffee table he will take it, his country wants dat aide money.

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;954825]Shpira... this is an exact example of why the politics forum was closed, if you don't have something constructive or objective to say them why are you posting in the thread ? because it seems to me like your just trying to wind people up!!![/QUOTE]

i actually wanted to write something along the lines "people are sucking other peoples cock in this thread" but thought that might be interpreted as personal insults so posted that pic instead...but you are right...that comment is neither here nor there

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[QUOTE=Shpira;955115]i actually wanted to write something along the lines "people are sucking other peoples cock in this thread" [/QUOTE]

Shiyaat I thought this was the "I Hate you forum". Seems there's free bj's in this joint.

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[QUOTE=dig72;955032]Comments by Pakistans PM Gilani, in response to future attacks by the US on its soil.

[url]http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/pakistan-pm-‘full-force’-response-to-future-us-raids/[/url]

Oops, I did it again.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I'm slow, what did you do with that post that isn't common knowledge? Pakistan's empty threat?