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Osama Bin Laden dead

389 durable postsStarted 2011-05-02Latest 2012-03-07
#1495104Post 361 of 389

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[QUOTE=chunky;952165]I would be suprissed if more than a handfull of "Al-Qaeda" knew he was hiding the that house, never mind getting the government in on it.[/QUOTE]

my thoughts exactly m8

thank you

#1495107Post 362 of 389

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;952164]oh yea and i,m sure if he did then he would openly announce it :lol:

fuck sake[/QUOTE]

you don't just take the subway or a private limo to the closest FBI consulate and then ask for asylum where they were living and all is fine, i'm pretty sure. :roll:

#1495114Post 363 of 389

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;952173]you don't just take the subway or a private limo to the closest FBI consulate and then ask for asylum where they were living and all is fine, i'm pretty sure. :roll:[/QUOTE]

oh i,m well aware of that lol but its government officials ur talking about here..they know how the system works...but i can see exactly what ur saying about the fear factor

#1495120Post 364 of 389

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i,m actually highly surprised he wasn't found in iran

#1495122Post 365 of 389

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;952180]oh i,m well aware of that lol but its government officials ur talking about here..they know how the system works...but i can see exactly what ur saying about the fear factor[/QUOTE]

yeah...hell even the damn new orleans police dept has been corrupt as hell for decades and thats even hard to root out over here. :lol:

#1495132Post 366 of 389

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#1495134Post 367 of 389

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:lol:

#1495139Post 368 of 389

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#1495140Post 369 of 389

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Alex Jones says he has Kissingers Man in an interview in an hour.. With some pretty crazy news.

[URL="http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx"]http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[/URL]

#1495146Post 370 of 389

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[QUOTE=runningman;952155]Jesus how many fake pics are there?[/QUOTE]

never mind, too easy :lol:

#1495149Post 371 of 389

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[QUOTE=chunky;952138]No I'm fully aware of the ISI, I think they where involved with the Americans in 9/11. But that doesnt mean to say the personnel on the mititary base where aware of Bin Laden's whereabouts.[/QUOTE]

matey one thing about ISI, the wind stops blowing in Pakistan if the ISI tells it to stop. So if the world's most wanted man is hiding within yards of a ministry installation, believe you me, they knew/know.

#1495153Post 372 of 389

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:shock:

#1495159Post 373 of 389

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Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik is on Alex Jones now.. He is from the CFR so I would love to hear someone bash his credibility when it comes to MSM. He worked under Kissinger and worked with OBL.

#1495160Post 374 of 389

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ooohhhh yeeaaaaaahhh so uptight! :lol: it's from a movie

#1495161Post 375 of 389

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Chunky, quit.

#1495163Post 376 of 389

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nope, no problem putting all my photos in one post[/QUOTE]

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#1495164Post 377 of 389

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guys come on let's keep it above the belt. If we lose this thread we will never get Politics opened again.

No Name calling or Bashing

#1495165Post 378 of 389

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;952229]Chunky, quit.[/QUOTE]

not a chance

#1517478Post 379 of 389

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[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sailor-aboard-ship-that-buried-bin-laden-speaks-out/[/url]

Master Chief of the ship that supposedly housed OBL's dead body comes forward as to not knowing it was there: Back to the topic...

[quote]One of the sailors who was on board the USS Vinson – the Naval carrier that buried Osama bin Laden at sea — sat down to discuss the experience [URL="http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/06/21/sailor-aboard-the-uss-vinson-carrier-that-buried-bin-laden-speaks-out/"]with FOX News[/URL].

[LEFT]While he wasn’t willing to provide insanely in-depth information, Master Chief Bill Houlihan, said that he and the crew had no idea the terrorist leader’s body was on board the ship. He didn’t find out, he claims, that bin Laden was dead until he saw it on the news. Watch his intriguing appearance below:[/quote]

[video=youtube;-q-i3Q-HFNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q-i3Q-HFNM[/video]

I can't believe they let this slip on FOX...just more proof that this was another propaganda tool. [/LEFT]

#1517529Post 380 of 389

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;967842] I can't believe they let this slip on FOX...just more proof that this was another propaganda tool. [/LEFT][/QUOTE]

So who wants to quote my post so vinnie can't ignore my response?

So by 'I can't believe they let this slip on fox', you mean a standard propaganda tool against Obama right?

From the video: 'When asked about bin Laden's [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]burial[/URL], Houlihan says, "I can tell you absolutely nothing about that night. That's just a subject that we as a crew are not going to discuss. Our captain has made it very clear to us that the details are not ours to give.'

AKA: The captain didn't have an all hands on deck to announce to 1,000 people who were not involved in part of probably the most Top Secret US op in 10 years was occurring on their deck.

Need to know basis.

#1533044Post 381 of 389

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long story from the new yorker on how the raid went down.

[url]http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle?currentPage=all[/url]

#1533156Post 382 of 389

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all the seals died when the helicopter crashed (shot down)

OBL died years ago.

I love "a dog named Cairo" gives it that Curious George feel to it ..

"On March 29th McLovin brought the plan to Obama..." hahahaha

#1533161Post 383 of 389

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^lulz:Weirdoz :

#1533332Post 384 of 389

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[URL]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903341404576483540742054836.html?mod=WSJ_business_whatsNews[/URL]

#1533854Post 385 of 389

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How convenient. The entire team that supposedly killed OBL is DEAD as a result of hostile action in Afghanistan:

[URL]http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-seal-crash-update,0,772662.story[/URL]

#1533857Post 386 of 389

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;979835]How convenient. The entire team that supposedly killed OBL is DEAD as a result of hostile action in Afghanistan:

[URL]http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-seal-crash-update,0,772662.story[/URL][/QUOTE]

Please remove your wanker from your tight grip and quit jizzing yourself with joy over peoples deaths and actually read the article:

[quote] None of the 22 SEAL personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that killed bin Laden in a May raid in [URL="http://www.wtkr.com/topic/intl/pakistan-PLGEO00000020.topic"]Pakistan[/URL], but they belonged to the same unit. Their deployment in the Friday night raid in which the helicopter crashed would suggest that the target was a high-ranking insurgent figure.[/quote]

Jackass.

#1598318Post 387 of 389

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Sorry to bring this on to everyone, but... you know conspiracies...

This Forum sub-section won't exist without all of it.

[QUOTE] [B]WikiLeaks Scoop About Bin Laden's Body Is Awfully Thin[/B]

One of the most dubious revelations from the Stratfor document dump on WikiLeaks.org -- unfounded skepticism about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden's body -- is drawing the most attention in the media this week. In the last five days, speculative stories that bin Laden's body was not buried at sea, as the U.S. government has said, but secretly transported to the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware and cremated has been picked up by Business Insider, The Huffington Post, The Telegraph, The Daily Mirror, The Daily Mail, RT and scores of other blogs, culminating in a lead story splashed on the Drudge Report this morning. It would be an intriguing story—if only there was a shred of evidence substantiating it.

The story goes that when bin Laden was captured on May 2 in Pakistan, instead of being buried in the North Arabian Sea on the USS Carl Vinson, as the U.S. maintains, a CIA plane transported him to Dover Air Force Base and "onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda [Maryland]" where he was later cremated. The "secret intelligence" stems from emails written by Fred Burton, the vice president for intelligence at Stratfor, the private intelligence firm hacked by Anonymous and exposed by WikiLeaks. On May 2 Burton writes "Body bound for Dover, DE on CIA plan." There are so many dubious aspects of this story it's hard to know where to begin.

First off: It's telling what each story doesn't tell you about the emails. In RT, the Russian-subsidized news service that was picked up by Drudge, there's no mention of the first email Burton sent where he says "Reportedly, we took the body with us. Thank goodness. Sent via Blackberry by AT&T" That first word suggests he's just reading news reports and passing along information. That last sentence suggests he's spouting off text messages. It certainly doesn't suggest he's running his own reconnaissance operation.

Second, and most importantly: reports like Business Insider's fail to mention that Burton himself actually reverses himself later on and acknowledges that bin Laden was buried at sea. In one of his final exchanges on May 2, Burton writes "Down & dirty done, He already sleeps with the fish...."

Third: reports like The Daily Mail's say bin Laden's body was "flown to the U.S. for cremation at secret location." No evidence of that even exists within the already dubious email banter. Instead, Burton and Stratfor CEO George Friedman make an odd analogy to the cremation of Adolf Eichman, the notorious Nazi lieutenant who was prosecuted and executed by Israelis. Burton writes:

Friedman responds:

As you can see, the cremation detail only concerns Eichmann, not bin Laden.

A fourth aspect to consider is that if bin Laden's body was taken to the sprawling Air Force Base that is Dover, it would be awfully hard for more information about his arrival to not leak out to the press.

Anyway, the CIA and Pentagon are loath to officially comment on the story but a government official tells us, "There is no truth whatsoever to the allegations made in the article."

What's clear about the pickup of this story is a lot of suspicion surrounding bin Laden's death remains. In no small part, that's the fault of the Obama administration for refusing to go on-the-record about a number of elements concerning the raid and the series of misstatements and corrections the administration made following the announcement of the operation in May. Still, misleading stories like today's only succeed in making those seeking earnest answers about the raid look loony.

Update: A Pentagon spokesman denies the rather spurious accusation that bin Laden was cremated:

Traditional procedures for Islamic [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]burial[/URL] were followed for Osama bin Laden.  His body was washed and then placed in a white sheet.  The body was placed in a weighted bag and a military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker.  After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased body eased into the sea.  Any allegations otherwise are simply false.

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[IMG]http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/03/06/Screen%20shot%202012-03-06%20at%2012.34.30%20PM.jpg[/IMG]

[url]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/03/wikileaks-scoop-about-bin-ladens-body-awfully-thin/49550/[/url]

#1598349Post 388 of 389

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;1026415]Sorry to bring this on to everyone, but... you know conspiracies...

This Forum sub-section won't exist without all of it.

[IMG]http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/03/06/Screen shot 2012-03-06 at 12.34.30 PM.jpg[/IMG]

[URL]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/03/wikileaks-scoop-about-bin-ladens-body-awfully-thin/49550/[/URL][/QUOTE]

i read this earlier lol

#1598352Post 389 of 389

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I have no idea what they did with his body, but I know for a [U]fact[/U] that the [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]burial[/url] at sea did not take place.

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