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[QUOTE=chunky;938548]I'm just keeping with the spirit of things[/QUOTE]

This must be the intellectual discourse that RM was complaining he's been missing.

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No I miss the democrats on MS.. When Bush was President this place was booming. Everyone loved to come in and throw some mud at Bush. But not that Barry is President nobody wants to say he is a disaster because MS is a Democrat website.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;938552]This must be the intellectual discourse that RM was complaining he's been missing.[/QUOTE]

The forum was good fun until you started spaming res0. Now its just a forum for thread bumping.

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[QUOTE=chunky;938555]The forum was good fun until you started spaming res0. Now its just a forum for thread bumping.[/QUOTE]

I think you are just pissed because I give you the most shit about your stupid posts and logic fail. :lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;938559]I think you are just pissed because I give you the most shit about your stupid posts and logic fail. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Its only tennis Res0. You give most people shit because you have nothing to say. Stop Saying Commie:roll:

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that would be more conceivable than the US Dollar crashing because Nato went into Libya wouldn't it?

[QUOTE=runningman;938349]They say Gaddafi is collecting bodies... He will then [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/url] the UN for the deaths when they come to liberate saying the UN killed civilians.:lol::lol::lol:[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=runningman;938554]No I miss the democrats on MS.. When Bush was President this place was booming. Everyone loved to come in and throw some mud at Bush. But not that Barry is President nobody wants to say he is a disaster because MS is a Democrat website.[/QUOTE]

Yo, pls stop. I'll mail you an etch-a-sketch so you can scribble all this nonsense on it and once you've taken it out of your system, feel free to come back here and post some sense.

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and to go back on topic, about time someone got in there to put that man draped in a bedsheet, in his rightful place. it's ironic when you think about it that Ghadaffi himself came into power in the 70s (iirc) in a bloodless coup and its remarkable to see his aggression when there was a peaceful revolution brewing.

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Did that idiot think his 'peace fire' for two days would stop the UN, after there are reports left and right of him still being aggressive? I bet he is surprised France is all over him already.

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I'm not saying it will collapse because of Libya. Again you are putting words in my mouth but I can speak for myself thank you. The trend for the US Dollar has been down for a long time. I was saying that if China doesn't support this war then they can retaliate by not buying treasuries.

And no collecting bodies is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Where is he storing the bodies with the Keebler Elves in the trees'??

I have already written my MP telling him how against this I am and that there better not be ANY Canadian troops in Libya.

[URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=DXY:IND"]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=DXY:IND[/URL]

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TBH I'm surprised France stepped in the way it has.

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[QUOTE=runningman;938597]I'm not saying it will collapse because of Libya. Again you are putting words in my mouth but I can speak for myself thank you. The trend for the US Dollar has been down for a long time. I was saying that if China doesn't support this war then they can retaliate by not buying treasuries.[/QUOTE]

be realistic, you don't believe it yourself that this will happen do you?

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China has dramatically slowed down buying treasuries over the last year. So the trend is already set. Why would anybody buy the US dollar anyways? They only export war and corruption.

[URL="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/03/china-continues-to-trim-its-us-debt-to-avoid-risks/"]http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/03/china-continues-to-trim-its-us-debt-to-avoid-risks/[/URL]

[URL="http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-03-18/news/29141864_1_foreign-exchange-reserves-trillion-china-daily"]http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-03-18/news/29141864_1_foreign-exchange-reserves-trillion-china-daily[/URL]

This isn't just me thinking this. This is many people thinking this.

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[QUOTE=runningman;938600]They only export war and corruption. [/quote]

:deadhorse:

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[QUOTE=Kamal;938277]Dude, stick to the topic please, don't turn this into a silly argument like trick tried to pull off. First it's oil, then its the west, then its China, then US treasuries, now US dollar collapsing.

Save the Rebels should be the title of this thread so people don't sway from the topic.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh6rcbQYKD1qap7aso1_500.gif[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=Kamal;938599]be realistic, you don't believe it yourself that this will happen do you?[/QUOTE] Have you been asleep lately? The dollar is not in good shape. Soetoro's estimation of the deficit is [url=http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/03/18/obamas-fuzzy-math-new-cbo-estimates-show-administrations-budget-deficits-just-a-bit-off-by-2-3-trillion/]off by $2.3 trillion[/url] and his proposed budget doubles the deficit in 10 years (3rd world for the young generation and soylent green for the rest of us), yet said asinine administration continues right along, pretending everything is fine. Alice in Wonderland anyone? [url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-09/gross-drops-government-debt-from-pimco-s-flagship-fund-zero-hedge-reports.html]World's Biggest Bond Fund Dumps [b]US Treasury Bills[/b][/url]. The financial retardation that has swept this nation has seriously bamboozled so many who are still clinging to some hollow notion of hope and change.

RunningMan, I gotta' say...it does smell like hypocrisy in here. Liberating Iraq was evool but liberating Libya is OK since the messiah is standing behind it.

Excuse me while I go puke.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;938658]Have you been asleep lately? The dollar is not in good shape. Soetoro's public budget figures missed the mark by over $2 trillion, yet that asinine administration continues right along, pretending everything is fine. Alice in Wonderland anyone?

RunningMan, I gotta' say...it does smell like hypocrisy in here. Liberating Iraq was evool but liberating Libya is OK since the messiah is standing behind it.

Excuse me while I go puke.[/QUOTE]

Ah...so it is the entire UN security council who are conspiring then huh? No one there gives a shit about actually doing the right thing anymore is what it is? Excuse me while I go puke from drinking all of the the-entire-western-world-is-corrupt-koolaid

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The "right thing," even if it includes financial and economic suicide, a situation where even Timmy "tax cheat" Geithner has said our debt is [B]insurmountable. [/B]

We'll be in a damn good spot to help the world then, won't we? lol Common sense....doesn't exist no mo'.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;938660]The "right thing," even if it includes financial and economic suicide, a situation where even Timmy "tax cheat" Geithner has said our debt is [B]insurmountable. [/B] [/QUOTE]

Yup.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;938658]Have you been asleep lately? The dollar is not in good shape. Soetoro's estimation of the deficit is [url=http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/03/18/obamas-fuzzy-math-new-cbo-estimates-show-administrations-budget-deficits-just-a-bit-off-by-2-3-trillion/]off by $2.3 trillion[/url] and his proposed budget doubles the deficit in 10 years (3rd world for the young generation and soylent green for the rest of us), yet said asinine administration continues right along, pretending everything is fine. Alice in Wonderland anyone? [url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-09/gross-drops-government-debt-from-pimco-s-flagship-fund-zero-hedge-reports.html]World's Biggest Bond Fund Dumps [b]US Treasury Bills[/b][/url]. The financial retardation that has swept this nation has seriously bamboozled so many who are still clinging to some hollow notion of hope and change.

RunningMan, I gotta' say...it does smell like hypocrisy in here. Liberating Iraq was evool but liberating Libya is OK since the messiah is standing behind it.

Excuse me while I go puke.[/QUOTE]

I'm not denying the shape of the US Dollar, but to somehow imagine that Libya's situation is now going to change the financial state of the USD is a little wild don't you think? If you're keeping up with the situation there, it turns out that French planes were already in the air even before the No Fly Zone was levied, so to dream that China is now going to cripple the US's Financial standing in retaliation to the attacks even when it voted AGAINST it, is remarkably brilliant. Think about that when you're done puking.

Btw, considering China themselves are probably holding the largest reserves of the Dollar outside the US, does anyone really believe that China themselves would do their best to destroy the Dollar's value? Econ 101?

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It's not action alone (in Libya) that would cause them to do it...it's a culmination of many things. And you did raise a good point on why they're still holding onto US treasuries. They're not interested in mutually assured destruction (at the moment anyway). Either way, this Libyan involvement is just another costly expense that will add to our already ridiculous debt load. Afghanistan after 10 years is still a quagmire...when does the leadership here get smart and scale back and say no? After we're all living in tent cities?

Sudan is also deserving of its own thread, indeed.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;938182]This is what they have now under Quadaffi.[/QUOTE]

Back all of that up if you can.

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[QUOTE=dig72;938672]Back all of that up if you can.[/QUOTE]

Uh. :lol:

Is this the standard I won't believe anything unless there is more evidence than they could ever dig up on CSI:Miami, since it disagrees with your point?

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[QUOTE=Jenks;938187] A lot of people on this forum have this hatred for everything that is USA (cue chunky, dig72 et all WMDs IRAQ BUSH) [/QUOTE]

You are full of shit

Show me just one example, just one, where I have stated a, [B]hatred for everything that is USA. [/B]

Put up or shut up.

[QUOTE] that blinds them from realizing what was actually happening over there before the bullets started to fly, like Quadaffi is this nice fella we all should want to go have tea and scones with and chat about soccer and good times and all the great stuff he's doing for his people[/QUOTE]

These are your words and your delusions, period.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;938677]Uh. :lol:

Is this the standard I won't believe anything unless there is more evidence than they could ever dig up on CSI:Miami, since it disagrees with your point?[/QUOTE]

If you are going to make absurd statements, then be prepared to be called out and asked to back it up.

Am I asking too much reso?

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Bomb, bombs away.

[URL]http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/03/2011319175243968135.html[/URL]

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about time don't you think? Considering carpet man blatantly ignored the warnings of the UN security council sent to him earlier in the week.

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[QUOTE=dig72;938680][B]hatred for everything that is USA. [/B][/QUOTE]

You honestly don't have anything against the US?

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;938709]You honestly don't have anything against the US?[/QUOTE]

^ Go back to sleep.

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[QUOTE=dig72;938729]^ Go back to sleep.[/QUOTE]

Oh because you are so awake right? At least Runningman, Vinnie and Chunky are not a bitter old men. :lol:

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Obama is a crack head look at how much weight he has lost lately. Lay off the rock Charlie Sheen

This isn't about hatred for the US don't get confused. This is hatred for US foreign policy. AKA Imperial Agenda.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;938698]about time don't you think? Considering carpet man blatantly ignored the warnings of the UN security council sent to him earlier in the week.[/QUOTE]

Oh wise one, knower of all things, I'd love to offer you opinion on this matter, but I'm 'struggling to keep up with the conversation', well with you anyway.

So I won't bother.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;938732]Oh because you are so awake right? At least Runningman, Vinnie and Chunky are not a bitter old men. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Your question is retarded, go back to sleep.

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They love showing the missiles come out of the ships. . . Too bad the media never shows the other end of those missiles.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;938298]well what's your take on the matter chunky? Are you for foreign intervention to help those wanting to kick out the dictatorship or against it?[/QUOTE]

Actually I'm all for intervention regarding Libya. I don't think there is a secret agenda behind it. Unlike Iraq the Revolution was started by the people and if they can be helped I'm all for it. If Gaddafi is overthrown I think there will be even more turmoil as the country doesn't appear to have any infrastructure to form a new Government. Yes innocent people will die but I remember watching a documentary about Auschwitz and one of the survivors was saying that they remembered seeing allied planes flying over the camp. The feeling from the prisoners watching was hope out of despair, hope that the allies would drop some bombs or do something even if it resulted in innocent deaths. Personally I would like to see more country's rise up and revolt and get intervention, Bhuma being top of my list. Like I said before Bhuma's human rights violations as so bad the Bristish Government doesn't sell them arms and if the UK won't sell you arms it must be bad.

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I would also like to see uprising's in Korea, Tibet and even Israel but I think the world would just sit back and ignore them and many people would be slaughtered and nothing will be achieved.

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Why did Soetoro need to make the announcement from BRAZIL? Too spineless to face the remaining awake folk in the American public?

[video=youtube;pGN43VnG_yU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGN43VnG_yU[/video]

This action should have been voted on by Congress, otherwise it is most certainly an illegal war.

Being the UN's bitch is one thing if the majority of US politicians vote to proceed with actions they decry...but when it's the pseudo-executive abusing executive power to put American Military in harm's way (and yes, interfering with the sovereignty of another nation), it's a whole 'nother ballgame.

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"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack ..." – Barack Obama, December 20, 2007

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[QUOTE=dig72;938737]Oh wise one, knower of all things, I'd love to offer you opinion on this matter, but I'm 'struggling to keep up with the conversation', well with you anyway.[/QUOTE]

it's clearly evident you're struggling....period. with responses like "god back to sleep" and "knower of all things", you clearly have no clue what to say, but are butting in this thread just to sound important.

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[video=youtube;WTcc--fIHUQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTcc--fIHUQ[/video]