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what jobs? Where?

If you lose your job now you are fucked. There is nothing out there.

Side Note - China is more capitalist than North America. North America has turned into a fascist state.

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:deadhorse:

Talk about Canada for once.

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Talk about Canada for once.[/QUOTE]

not a chance :lol:

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I just did. I said North America

North America is the land mass of Canada, Mexico and the USA

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Talk about Canada being a fascist state.

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I did.

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you guys are like little babies who take absolutely no accountability for your country. At least I can take accountability for my countries faults.

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Then talk about them for once.

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[QUOTE=Localizer;931557]work harder, find a better job, that's the capitalist way.[/QUOTE] Thanks for changing the topic, as if skilled jobs are falling from heaven like manna. So suck it up for authoritative carbon taxation schemes (which would require that I get off-grid to avoid) from commie organizations like the IPCC? No thanks, I'll leave that to you.

Runningman, I'll think about an avatar...it's just not a game I customarily play on forums (don't care enough).

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I thought Localizer's post was very shameful. You shouldn't attack a mans living. Especially on a hippie peace loving site like MS.

Local you should apologize for that one.

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he didnt. he said work harder and find a better job.

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yes and he highlighted that he lives in an apartment.

Pretty low IMO

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[QUOTE=runningman;931601]what jobs? Where?

If you lose your job now you are fucked. There is nothing out there.

Side Note - China is more capitalist than North America. North America has turned into a fascist state.[/QUOTE]

There's nothing out there huh? The medical sector is one of the most stable sectors in the US, providing much needed job security. Also, you can check out yahoofinance as there are always articles about sectors with job growth.

[url]http://financiallyfit.yahoo.com/finance/article-112151-8660-4-best-companies-for-job-offers?ywaad=ad0035[/url]

Guarantee in the next couple days, there'll be another article, and another.

lol i just noticed that the article says march 2nd. awethome.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;931648]Thanks for changing the topic, as if skilled jobs are falling from heaven like manna. So suck it up for authoritative carbon taxation schemes (which would require that I get off-grid to avoid) from commie organizations like the IPCC? No thanks, I'll leave that to you.

Runningman, I'll think about an avatar...it's just not a game I customarily play on forums (don't care enough).[/QUOTE]

If you stop reading conspiracy theories online and acting like you've been overcome by some socialist/communist monster, you might have time to look online at financial sites and see that there are opportunities abound. Instead, we get to hear the same old song and dance. I think you're a cool dude, don't necessarily agree with your views, but if you're going to act like capitalism is the shit, then you better be the player that it wants working within its system.

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Thanks but....you're the one that started down the personal path. This is the last time I'll ever divulge personal information on here that can be used as ammo against me. I already work in a medical field of sorts...guess what, it's seen outsourcing (India namely) like something fierce for the last decade, so wages are down. This was my second career path, FYI, and I'm still paying off the loan for the first...so please don't dish out unsolicited career advice from your high horse. I shouldn't need to buy a new mode of transportation every year because we don't have a sound energy policy.

And Commiecare is putting hospitals at risk, too: [URL]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/are-hospitals-closing-because-obamacare_501081.html[/URL] (no apologies if that's too "conspiracy" for you)

Unless you want to forgive all prior college loans from medical professionals so that they can work for free (or, more realistically, at greatly reduced salaries), you might reconsider just how lucrative a career in the medical field will be in a few years if this monstrosity continues to wreak havoc.

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I'd rather fix the bullshit related to docs going out of biz because of malpractice lawsuits, I'm sure these problems which existed long before commiecare are part of the problem so you can't blame it soley on this new program imo. I'm in IT and half of my damn co workers are Indian and are here working, or I deal with guys overseas day and night, so I know about outsourcing, they've gotten rid of 3 people on my team in the last year and they are replaced by guys overseas. You also sound lucky and have an education and a degree in a good field, there are still jobs out there if you are smart and in a decent field. America trying to cover everyone via healthcare is not going to cause the country to collapse and everyone under the sun to suddenly wake up without any jobs.

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There's always money to be made in Commercial Real Estate Investment Brokering, if you are up for the challenge I would highly recommend that field. Once you get good at it, the sky really is the limit. Bitching and complaining and wondering "what if" won't get you shit btw. And RM who give's a shit if someone lives in an apartment or not? I live in a house by choice, but God knows there are plenty of SUPER nice apartments out there ffs stop trolling.

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^Thanks for not being a dick about your career recommendation. :)

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;931757]I'd rather fix the bullshit related to docs going out of biz because of malpractice lawsuits, I'm sure these problems which existed long before commiecare are part of the problem so you can't [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/URL] it soley on this new program imo. I'm in IT and half of my damn co workers are Indian and are here working, or I deal with guys overseas day and night, so I know about outsourcing, they've gotten rid of 3 people on my team in the last year and they are replaced by guys overseas. You also sound lucky and have an education and a degree in a good field, there are still jobs out there if you are smart and in a decent field. America trying to cover everyone via healthcare is not going to cause the country to collapse and everyone under the sun to suddenly wake up without any jobs.[/QUOTE] Bailed actually (on the degree front, comp sci.) but intend to return and get more than the associates degree eventually. I am able to telecommute so that's a plus, but since I'm a contractor and have seen lost wages, I am not in the best position economically. I will have to fork out over a grand to meet the obligations of the healthcare deform (I had no hospital or doctor visits in 2010). I should be able to act independently of my own volition and not have to meet an unaffordable mandate and suffer the consequences (whatever consequences I face from not being insured are mine and mine alone) of doing so. Geithner himself said the proposed 2012 budget is unsustainable, and it includes the sucking up of public funds to meet the demands of the new law...using the term unsustainable does not a pretty picture paint.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;931765]^Thanks for not being a dick about your career recommendation. :)

Bailed actually (on the degree front, comp sci.) but intend to return and get more than the associates degree eventually. I am able to telecommute so that's a plus, but since I'm a contractor and have seen lost wages, I am not in the best position economically. I will have to fork out over a grand to meet the obligations of the healthcare deform (I had no hospital or doctor visits in 2010). I should be able to act independently of my own volition and not have to meet an unaffordable mandate and suffer the consequences (whatever consequences I face from not being insured are mine and mine alone) of doing so. Geithner himself said the proposed 2012 budget is unsustainable, and it includes the sucking up of public funds to meet the demands of the new law...using the term unsustainable does not a pretty picture paint.[/QUOTE]

I understand about that, I was a contractor for 1.5 years w/o any health insurance it was shit. I never went to the doc, and never have to go now, but you have to have health insurance for sure. It is a big worry if you don't, and I'm healthy too and dont need any perscriptions etc at all.

Its great those idiots say the budget is not viable, yet they are not ever going to reform anything with any beef (medicare, defense spending, etc) and just do a few 100 million here and there and say its at least something.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;931765]^Thanks for not being a dick about your career recommendation. :)[/QUOTE]

Just being honest.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;931754]Thanks but....you're the one that started down the personal path. This is the last time I'll ever divulge personal information on here that can be used as ammo against me. I already work in a medical field of sorts...guess what, it's seen outsourcing (India namely) like something fierce for the last decade, so wages are down. This was my second career path, FYI, and I'm still paying off the loan for the first...so please don't dish out unsolicited career advice from your high horse. I shouldn't need to buy a new mode of transportation every year because we don't have a sound energy policy.
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Unless it's radiology, manufacturing medical devices, or medical transcription, jobs in medicine are pretty much within US boarders. No one has to buy a new mode of transportation every year either. Last I checked, people still have vehicles that are beyond 10 years old. You can use all the scare-tactics and bullshit you want to get your point across. All it does is show that you're more interested in browsing the internet rather than moving yourself forward in a more positive direction. And fyi, I'm against cap n trade and have always been and I'm also pissed off about what obama did with graduate loans, but I'm not going to sit around and have self-pity. It just means I have to work harder, and I like that challenge.

[quote] And Commiecare is putting hospitals at risk, too: [URL]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/are-hospitals-closing-because-obamacare_501081.html[/URL] (no apologies if that's too "conspiracy" for you) [/quote]

News for you. Commiecare is moving alongside with HMOs. Both the HMO system and the government system are going to flush out private practice if there are any private practitioners still left. Guess who lost out? The physicians. The bureaucrat and the businessman got together and took the demand out of physicians.

[quote] Unless you want to forgive all prior college loans from medical professionals so that they can work for free (or, more realistically, at greatly reduced salaries), you might reconsider just how lucrative a career in the medical field will be in a few years if this monstrosity continues to wreak havoc.[/QUOTE] [/quote]

Medicine will always be lucrative, especially for inpatient specialists and internists. But then again, if you went into medicine for money, that would be the idiotic choice as there are far more jobs which take less stress and time to achieve higher salaries. I sit at 8.5% before sallie mae was taken over going into my 1st and 2nd semester, of which, I had to pull out more to pay back the interest on that. I now sit at 6% for my current loans. I've found some new fields that will be exploding by the time I get farther down the road.

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Shiiit, my cousin-in-law got into gold mining 6 years ago, he flies to brazil all the time and lives in (guess where?) Canada, and does very well...

If you have the balls and drive, you can do anything you put your mind to.... and believe me when I say, if making money is your goal, there are plenty of fields that are available to you.

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Living comfortably (not filthy rich) and not worrying about the risk of rampant inflation (politicians pretending they don't have to ever live within our means is what will ultimately cause this) are my main concerns. Localizer, these items have me on pins and needles and I refuse to take psychotropics to settle my anxieties, which amount to just another expensive habit (I'm alcohol, cigarette and illicit drug free...maybe I should try some cannabis ;-)).

Res, I still say it should be my choice. Some folks actually pay only for doctor visits, believe it or not. This way used to be affordable before the middleman came in...adding yet another giant bureaucratic agency is not the way to make healthcare affordable, and I do agree with you about frivolous lawsuits and the need for tort reform (that little issue was pushed under the rug last year). That said, don't make me pay into a private product (with threat of penalty) that I have a great likelihood of not even putting to use, simply because I breathe oxygen. As it is currently, I could simply work less, live even more meagerly and just suck on the Medicaid tit. It would pain me to do it, but if forced with wage garnishment for not complying, that would be my only choice.

Localizer, you honed in on my work (I won't tell you which one but you can probably work it out). It's taken a beating over the last 5 years...it was my plan B career choice since A went down the tubes. The "scare tactics" I'm merely echoing are the ones being utilized by certain admin officials who want to institute their carbon taxation scheme that will make energy prices "necessarily skyrocket." It's partly why I nabbed a hybrid last year...I just don't appreciate the condescending suggestion that I should suck it up and suffer for these measures because that's the capitalist thing to do. It just so happens they're going up without the aid of such a scheme, yet this administration has been trying to use the EPA to implement this alarmist agenda by way of fiat.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;931825]Living comfortably (not filthy rich) and not worrying about the risk of rampant inflation (politicians pretending they don't have to ever live within our means is what will ultimately cause this) are my main concerns. Localizer, these items have me on pins and needles and I refuse to take psychotropics to settle my anxieties, which amount to just another expensive habit (I'm alcohol, cigarette and illicit drug free...maybe I should try some cannabis ;-)).

Res, I still say it should be my choice. Some folks actually pay only for doctor visits, believe it or not. This way used to be affordable before the middleman came in...adding yet another giant bureaucratic agency is not the way to make healthcare affordable, and I do agree with you about frivolous lawsuits and the need for tort reform (that little issue was pushed under the rug last year). That said, don't make me pay into a private product (with threat of penalty) that I have a great likelihood of not even putting to use, simply because I breathe oxygen. As it is currently, I could simply work less, live even more meagerly and just suck on the Medicaid tit. It would pain me to do it, but if forced with wage garnishment for not complying, that would be my only choice.

Localizer, you honed in on my work (I won't tell you which one but you can probably work it out). It's taken a beating over the last 5 years...it was my plan B career choice since A went down the tubes. The "scare tactics" I'm merely echoing are the ones being utilized by certain admin officials who want to institute their carbon taxation scheme that will make energy prices "necessarily skyrocket." It's partly why I nabbed a [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=122"]hybrid[/url] last year...I just don't appreciate the condescending suggestion that I should suck it up and suffer for these measures because that's the capitalist thing to do. It just so happens they're going up without the aid of such a scheme, yet this administration has been trying to use the EPA to implement this alarmist agenda by way of fiat.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. Sorry to sound like a dick. And sorry for the thread derailment.

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$1.21/litre !!! :twisted::evil::evil:

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[QUOTE=Localizer;931557]work harder, find a better job, that's the capitalist way.[/QUOTE]

it's also the only way if you seriously want to get ahead today. Most "jobs" being re-created pay for shit. Which means you need 2, 3, 4 to make up for it.

Follow the money, get into these fields for a while, and you'll do well.

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Any possible urgency creates these higher prices, namely if you trade. Right now the futures for CL08XE (US oil) is around 97/98 before expiry.

Although Libya has recently re-opened the stream, initial damage was done. Any ridiculousness in Saudi Arabia (slated in about 10 days, priced in or not) will create the next leg up...all hell breaks loose, all bets are off.

Gas locally for me shot up 20 cents in the past 2 weeks. Soon thereafter it will be 3.50 a gallon (all time high) if things continue...which makes 4/4.50 a gallon commonplace elsewhere.

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What I don't understand is that there has been a slow down in the economy so demand must be down. So why does this little Libya event drive prices so high when demand is down.

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how can you not understand that for the 100th middle east flare up this time around, oil and gas prices also go up?

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the oil hasn't stopped pumping. So it goes this high on media threats and speculation?

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exactly. jenks already explained it in post #8.

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no the oil is still pumping

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no you are just confused.:You thin:

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[QUOTE=FM;932882]Any possible urgency creates these higher prices, namely if you trade. Right now the futures for CL08XE (US oil) is around 97/98 before expiry.

Although Libya has recently re-opened the stream, initial damage was done. Any ridiculousness in Saudi Arabia (slated in about 10 days, priced in or not) will create the next leg up...all hell breaks loose, all bets are off.

Gas locally for me shot up 20 cents in the past 2 weeks. Soon thereafter it will be 3.50 a gallon (all time high) if things continue...which makes 4/4.50 a gallon commonplace elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

This reminds me of the summer of '08 before the market crash when oil prices escalated. This could end up being the same thing (early cyclical), so if you wanna make a quick buck, oil/energy exploration companies might be worth a look at going into the late spring/early summer months. The airlines are taking a hit too, so it would be worthwhile to keep those on the look out after they bottom.

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[QUOTE=runningman;933012]What I don't understand is that there has been a slow down in the economy so demand must be down. So why does this little Libya event drive prices so high when demand is down.[/QUOTE]

It's called hedging.

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Oil goes up because of an airstrike "near" a pipeline. :roll::roll:

[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/02/us-markets-oil-idUSTRE71192R20110302"]http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/02/us-markets-oil-idUSTRE71192R20110302[/URL]

The oil companies can just say whatever they want to drive up the price of oil.

Most of you on here seem perfectly happy that the propaganda is so strong to validate the price of gas at the pump. The TRUTH is that no oil fields have been hit supply is still the same yet prices are going through the roof.

Boy the fat cat oil barons must really be having a chuckle on this one.

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the truth is you don't understand how it works.

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[QUOTE=runningman;933319]Oil goes up because of an airstrike "near" a pipeline. :roll::roll:

[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/02/us-markets-oil-idUSTRE71192R20110302"]http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/02/us-markets-oil-idUSTRE71192R20110302[/URL]

The oil companies can just say whatever they want to drive up the price of oil.

Most of you on here seem perfectly happy that the propaganda is so strong to validate the price of gas at the pump. The TRUTH is that no oil fields have been hit supply is still the same yet prices are going through the roof.

Boy the fat cat oil barons must really be having a chuckle on this one.[/QUOTE]

If there's a fire by your wheat fields, the price of wheat will go up because there's a chance your wheat may get taken out.

If there's a monsoon in India that causes flooding, the price of rice will go up.

It doesn't matter if the oil gets hit or not, just the mere fact that there is 'danger' close by is enough to escalate prices because the future is unforseen.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya[/url]

[quote]Oil reserves in Libya are the largest in Africa and the ninth largest in the world with 41.5 billion barrels (6.60×109 m3) as of 2007. Oil production was 1.8 million barrels per day (290×103 m3/d) as of 2006, giving Libya 63 years of reserves at current production rates if no new reserves were to be found. [B]Libya is considered a highly attractive oil area due to its low cost of oil production (as low as $1 per barrel at some fields), and proximity to European markets[/B]. Libya would like to increase production from 1.8 Mbbl/d (290×103 m3/d) in 2006 to 3 Mbbl/d (480×103 m3/d) by 2010–13 but with existing oil fields undergoing a 7–8% decline rate, Libya's challenge is maintaining production at mature fields, while finding and developing new oil fields. Most of Libya remains unexplored as a result of past sanctions and disagreements with foreign oil companies[/quote]

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Wow you couldn't be more wrong:lol:. If the factory next to mine catches fire I can't charge more money for my widgets because there was danger near by. The only thing that could affect prices would be if half my factory got burned down and I could only produce half the widgets. Then my supply couldn't meet the demand therefore driving prices up because of its rarity.

What next a fire is near the factory in silicon valley so computer prices triple? Danger might be near.:p:lol: Guess what it is a dangerous world out there!

Resonator if you compare the intellect between my posts and yours it is quite obvious you don't have a clue about business, economics, or reality for that matter.

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[QUOTE=runningman;933380]Wow you couldn't be more wrong:lol:. If the factory next to mine catches fire I can't charge more money for my widgets because there was danger near by. The only thing that could affect prices would be if half my factory got burned down and I could only produce half the widgets. Then my supply couldn't meet the demand therefore driving prices up because of its rarity.

What next a fire is near the factory in silicon valley so computer prices triple? Danger might be near.:p:lol: Guess what it is a dangerous world out there!

Resonator if you compare the intellect between my posts and yours it is quite obvious you don't have a clue about business, economics, or reality for that matter.[/QUOTE]

:lol: The reality you exist in is obviously not the one the rest of us here share.