[url]http://www.iraniumthemovie.com/[/url]

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[QUOTE]Iranium documents the development of Iran's nuclear threat, beginning with the Islamic Revolution of 1979 and the ideology installed by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini. Iranium tracks Iran's use of terror as a tool of policy, beginning with the 444 day seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, through Iran's insurgent actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iranium details the brutal nature of the Iranian regime to its own citizens, and the Iranian people's desire to rejoin the international community. Iranium outlines the various scenarios the greater Middle East and the Western world may face should Iran cross the nuclear threshold.[/QUOTE] :KillYou:

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OMG this is the worst piece of propaganda I have ever seen.. John Bolton? Why not just have Bush/Cheney back on spouting the shit.

The war drums are banging again I see. Halfway through the mockumentary I wanted to nuke Iran. :)

Oh it was made by the Clarion fund.. that explains it. Clarion is the most racist and prejudice organization in the world behind AIPAC

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[FONT=&quot]Points for effort and the useless bullshit of American propagandas, highly effective to the fruitcakes who call themselves humans. [/FONT]

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[QUOTE=runningman;926970]OMG this is the worst piece of propaganda I have ever seen.. John Bolton? Why not just have Bush/Cheney back on spouting the shit.

The war drums are banging again I see. Halfway through the mockumentary I wanted to nuke Iran. :)

Oh it was made by the Clarion fund.. that explains it. Clarion is the most racist and prejudice organization in the world behind AIPAC[/QUOTE]

so basically what you're saying is none of what is in the video is true, none of the opinions offered are relevant, and the video is outright objectionable because those who funded the film did not paint Iran in a rosy picture. is that about what you're saying? And certainly Ahmedinejad's often-used speech openerabout bringing about the next Caliphate is also not interesting either. Nor was the fact that peeps from both democrat and republican administrations saying basically the same things.

Side note: watched Tom Clancy's "Sum of All Fears" the other night. Thought it was interesting that the director changed the plot (from the book) from radical islamists acquiring a nuclear weapon and detonating it in D.C. to a secret group of neo-nazis.

Not surprised that Ahmedinejad banned this from being shown in Iran. Good thing this wasn't a porn, or they'd try to arrest the producers and have them executed.

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I'm not saying all of it isn't true but if Iran went around showing the KKK as a popular movement in the US would that be true? Of course not but it is over hyped.

Paint them in a rosy picture? Clarion Fund is nothing more then a Jewish propaganda machine. Don't you know that? Look up Clarion Fund. Iran is no threat to US sovereignty. It may be a threat to imperialism, maybe, but I'm not convinced it is. I see China/Russia as much more of a threat to US sovereignty than Iran. This is just about oil same as Iraq. The boogy man the US needs to create in order to get the American public behind the Iran war.

I mean for God's sake look at Clarion's website.

[URL="http://www.radicalislam.org/content/about-clarion-fund"]http://www.radicalislam.org/content/about-clarion-fund[/URL]

I wonder how long it will take before this gets shown on Public television? Not long I bet.

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oh i've looked up clarion fund already and took note of its views.

unfortunately, this issue has been hanging over everyone's heads for longer than the clarion fund has existed. has anyone else done a documentary like this on this particular topic before? I can't say for sure, but I think people are naively dismissive of the point being made in the film. in fact, I think it's pathetic that it took a pro-israel entertainment group to put something like this out into the public. It's pathetic that few people take this seriously, much less care or worse, find fault with those few who actually [I]do[/I].

this video doesn't actually bring too much new information to light. the problem is that it's all being ignored or unjustly attacked.

for example, the logic kinda goes like this: George Bush lied to us about WMD's. Now, any claim that someone else is trying to get WMD's is therefore false. You see the flaw?

What about the other argument, that this is just sabre-rattling war-mongering propaganda? Therein sits another flaw: war isn't necessary to resolve this problem. Even Woolsey (from the clinton era) in this video says that we pretty much need to do everything possible to avoid war, and war is the [I]last option[/I]. The problem here is, however, that [I]there are no plans to do anything about this - whether it be a non-war option or a war-option - NONE![/I]. And that's concerning, no?

Let me borrow from the situation in Egypt to illustrate a point.

NOBODY predicted that revolution. NOBODY. Everyone, including our president's administration, was caught with their pants down at thier ankles. The response our administration gave was kaleidoscopic - people saying different things with different degrees of pressure making it clear that nobody knows what the fuck our position is. They're STILL without a plan.

Relevancy to Iran? Again, nobody can predict [I]when[/I] Iran gets the bomb - and then what? Pretty much the only option would be to actually wage a war...a war that is [i]entirely avoidable[i] at this point (See also: Stuxnet). Right now there is a no-fucks-given policy about this. I would say that maybe a few people in the CIA have worked out some plans, but such plans haven't been discussed with any military or executive officials as of yet (Gates himself said they had no plan!)

Here's the difference: Per Egypt, people were caught with their pants around their ankles. With a nuclear iran, the pants are around our waists and we're shitting in them.

Let's disregard everything in the movie, disregard the propogandic elements, the nature of the funding of this film, and ask ourselves a simple question:

Which is more likely: an Iran that is not trying to acquire a nuclear weapon, or an Iran that is actively pursuing such a device?

edit: it just occurred to me that the narrator is an iranian actress.

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lo, teh new element hath a ring of resiliecene to it.... though, WE IMMIGRANTS OF THE UNITED STATES are a bunch fo slaptard/viziers, in complete oscillating coordination, and cooperation wit dat dhar nWO --- transcending [I]all[/I] conspiracy heroes. what do? can i get a for the fucking win? hell yehhhhhhhhh

word life -_______-

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I don't even have the slightest clue what you said here^^

I think what you have to keep in mind as well Mariner is that it isn't just the lie about WMD's. It's the lying about EVERYTHING.

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Also who really gives a shit if Iran gets a nuke? I don't. Israel has multiple nukes, Saudi Arabia has them, Pakistan, India...etc..etc

Iran won't use them against the US. Let's say Iran gets a nuke. And lets say they use it against Isreal and wipe Tel aviv off the map. The US, Israel and Saudi Arabia would flatten Iran with hundreds of nukes. Iran would become the biggest exporter of glass.

You see this isn't about nukes because it is only a lose lose to use them. This is about the Zionism and war on Islam. No different then the Americans wiping out the Indians IMO.

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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;926987]lo, teh new element hath a ring of resiliecene to it.... though, WE IMMIGRANTS OF THE UNITED STATES are a bunch fo slaptard/viziers, in complete oscillating coordination, and cooperation wit dat dhar nWO --- transcending [I]all[/I] conspiracy heroes. what do? can i get a for the fucking win? hell yehhhhhhhhh

word life -_______-[/QUOTE]

Lay off the acid a bit illustrious :lol:

:Acidbanana:

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Ya at first I thought he was trying to talk black like Jenks does sometimes.. But then I realized it REALLY didn't make any sense at all.

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[QUOTE=runningman;927003]Also who really gives a shit if Iran gets a nuke? I don't. Israel has multiple nukes, Saudi Arabia has them, Pakistan, India...etc..etc

Iran won't use them against the US. Let's say Iran gets a nuke. And lets say they use it against Isreal and wipe Tel aviv off the map. The US, Israel and Saudi Arabia would flatten Iran with hundreds of nukes. Iran would become the biggest exporter of glass.

You see this isn't about nukes because it is only a lose lose to use them. This is about the Zionism and war on Islam. No different then the Americans wiping out the Indians IMO.[/QUOTE]

nah. and so what if Iran is nuked? i fucking care. you know why? because there are decent Iranians who don't deserve that fate ffs.

our fucking world will be flipped up side fucking down if a nuke goes off.

you don't care?

you care so much about civil liberties, yet a nuke detonating anywhere near the united states will all but eliminate them.

but you don't care.

millions of people will unnecessarily have their lives terminated and millions more affected by the fallout and billions more affected by the fucked up situation that results.

but you don't care.

the environment will be severely impacted.

but you don't care

a group of religious fundamentalists are not going to be deterred by mutually-assured destruction.

but you don't care.

a nuclear iran will the be the greatest blunder of this century.

but you don't care.

all you care about is saying everything is a lie. everything is a lie but those words coming out of an radical islamists mouth.

everytime i read your posts i am reminded of the phrase, "some people just want to watch the world burn"

and as you watch the world burn from afar, you'll dance and play your fiddle.

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[B]what the fuck are you talking about?[/B]

Don't mix up my words so it can benefit you. I SAID "who cares if Iran gets a nuke. I don't care." Then I went into a scenario validating my point that EVEN if they did get a nuke they wouldn't be able to do shit with it because the global community won't allow it.

I hate it when people try to mix and mash my words to help an agenda. I never said anything about not caring about Iran setting off a nuke.

Pakistan has nukes and never used them India has nukes and never used them United Kingdom has nukes and never used them Russia has nukes and never used them China has nukes and never used them

But you know has USED them that's right the USA

I'm gonna start calling you [U]Rumsfeld[/U] if you keep on this Neo Con and Project for a New American Century Agenda

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no really,

I NEED HELP

, this pharmacy is in need lysergic CIA SHIZZLES. i have soem freinds haulin in lbs of of for [I]Coachella[/I].... but that mess is like days away? why art thy so fucked???? WTF is happening ? fly me ot sirius or poliris, shit son, ffs.

how many illuminati bloodlines shall i decline?! bitches get zee ballsescks

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[QUOTE=runningman;927025][B]what the fuck are you talking about?[/B]

Don't mix up my words so it can benefit you. I SAID "who cares if Iran gets a nuke. I don't care." Then I went into a scenario validating my point that EVEN if they did get a nuke they wouldn't be able to do shit with it because the global community won't allow it.

I hate it when people try to mix and mash my words to help an agenda. I never said anything about not caring about Iran setting off a nuke.

Pakistan has nukes and never used them India has nukes and never used them United Kingdom has nukes and never used them Russia has nukes and never used them China has nukes and never used them

But you know has USED them that's right the USA

I'm gonna start calling you [U]Rumsfeld[/U] if you keep on this Neo Con and Project for a New American Century Agenda[/QUOTE]

Yeah, we used them to save tons of lives. It was a regretable choice, but one that was necessary.

You know what's not necessary to save lives? detonating one in downtown baghdad or telaviv or washington dc or london.

Your flawed argument is a tiresome one. Oh because American used them, it's ok if batshit insane people have them. OH, well none of the developed countries have used nukes, it's ok for a batshit insane dude to have them. Are you fucking kidding me? are you seriously putting ahmedinejad on the same plane as barack obama, or david cameron or medvedev? you clearly have this very troublesome problem with context.

And so here you are again, equivocating modern countries (excluding pakistan, i'll leave that for later) for that of a third world religiously fanatical dictatorship.

"it's no big deal if that violent and oppressive maniac up the street gets a gun. the police have guns. and they've USED them before herp derp"

go find a mirror and have a word with yourself.

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[QUOTE=i!!ustrious;927027]no really,

I NEED HELP

, this pharmacy is in need lysergic CIA SHIZZLES. i have soem freinds haulin in lbs of of for [I]Coachella[/I].... but that mess is like days away? why art thy so fucked???? WTF is happening ? fly me ot sirius or poliris, shit son, ffs.

how many illuminati bloodlines shall i decline?! bitches get zee ballsescks[/QUOTE]

coachella? More like.....brochella ;)

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;927043]Yeah, we used them to save tons of lives. It was a regretable choice, but one that was necessary.

You know what's not necessary to save lives? detonating one in downtown baghdad or telaviv or washington dc or london.

Your flawed argument is a tiresome one. Oh because American used them, it's ok if batshit insane people have them. OH, well none of the developed countries have used nukes, it's ok for a batshit insane dude to have them. Are you fucking kidding me? are you seriously putting ahmedinejad on the same plane as barack obama, or david cameron or medvedev? you clearly have this very troublesome problem with context.

And so here you are again, equivocating modern countries (excluding pakistan, i'll leave that for later) for that of a third world religiously fanatical dictatorship.

"it's no big deal if that violent and oppressive maniac up the street gets a gun. the police have guns. and they've USED them before herp derp"

go find a mirror and have a word with yourself.[/QUOTE]

Have you met the president of Iran? i hear he makes one hell of a cup of coffee. When you see him next do tell him to give me a ring...cuz they are talking rubbish about him on TV again.

The US had a bat-shit crazy president...2 years ago. he invaded 2 countries for no reason...so...yeah not really sure that you have any valid points really. everything you know, or I or anyone really is based on what we have read, seen on tv, radio bla bla... manufactured crap by nation that was never too pleased that the Islamic revolution happened. Also ALL attempts by the Iranian government to start a dialogue and cooperation have been met with a cold shoulder in the past - because the US had a bat-shit insane president set on world domination.

[QUOTE]go find a mirror and have a word with yourself.[/QUOTE]

You choose to believe what you will...but fact remains Iran has a better track record than the US and the US media is the source of most of your opinions about Iran.

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IMO you are the kind of person that saw a bunch of fucking aluminium tubes and shouted lets kill Sadam. Even bush said:

[video=youtube;eKgPY1adc0A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related[/video]

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[QUOTE=runningman;927025][B]what the fuck are you talking about?[/B]

Don't mix up my words so it can benefit you. I SAID "who cares if Iran gets a nuke. I don't care." Then I went into a scenario validating my point that EVEN if they did get a nuke they wouldn't be able to do shit with it because the global community won't allow it.

I hate it when people try to mix and mash my words to help an agenda. I never said anything about not caring about Iran setting off a nuke.

Pakistan has nukes and never used them India has nukes and never used them United Kingdom has nukes and never used them Russia has nukes and never used them China has nukes and never used them

But you know has USED them that's right the USA

I'm gonna start calling you [U]Rumsfeld[/U] if you keep on this Neo Con and Project for a New American Century Agenda[/QUOTE]

yup, we had a war on 2 fronts. Japan nailed pearl harbor; we were helping the frenchies, ruskies, and gap-teethed fools across the pond stave off the superrace. Was it brutal what we did to japan? yes, but so was what they did to china, aka the rape of nanking. So was what they did in Unit731. Let me know when you have something valuable to contribute.

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hahahahaha

You took one little line I said out of all the points I made and got your panties in a bunch. hahaha

You Conservatives are always good for a laugh. So touchy when I talk about your military and foreign policy

Do yourselves a favor and watch Militainment that I posted. It is one of the best propaganda docs I have ever seen.

The point of this conversation Local was who cares if Iran gets a nuke because they could never use it.

Do you have anything important to say? Or just your pathetic babbling about validating why you microwaved Japan?

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if the usa didnt nuke japan instead of canada being americas hat

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/U48VF.png[/IMG]

it would be germanys hat

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zCbkx.jpg[/IMG]

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i'm far from conservative, proving once again that your superpower of prediction is nothing more than a fart passing through the wind.

Your point is invalidated when you mention that WE used them. The bombs were used at a different point in time, therefore posting that we used nukes has no relevance in this conversation other than to imply that americans are hypocrites because they have a voice in who may and may not have them. Otherwise, what other reason is there to bring up that we used nukes? What you've just implied is that we can't say shit because we nuked a country even though you choose to neglect the reason for doing so.

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My point is not invalidated because I mentioned you used them. My point is no other country has. Again proving my point that Iran is not gonna do shit with a nuke.

The US invades other countries. The US is on an imperialistic agenda The US used the nuclear bomb (which shows they will use it again)

Iran hasn't invaded anyone in a long time as far as I know. You conservatives just want to bomb everyone don't ya?

Just don't expect the world to come to your aid when you fuck this one up. We are out of toilet paper for ya.

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[QUOTE=runningman;927226]My point is not invalidated because I mentioned you used them. My point is no other country has. Again proving my point that Iran is not gonna do shit with a nuke.

The US invades other countries. The US is on an imperialistic agenda The US used the nuclear bomb (which shows they will use it again)

Iran hasn't invaded anyone in a long time as far as I know. You conservatives just want to bomb everyone don't ya?

Just don't expect the world to come to your aid when you fuck this one up. We are out of toilet paper for ya.[/QUOTE]

^ you just did it again. might want to get your dementia checked out.

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why all the name calling Local? Also don't try to argue with me the same way Reso does.. with no facts and sarcasm as your main argument.

Also I used to be proud to be "America's hat" if you want to call it that (considering we supply you will the most energy - we are more like your nervous system but whatever) but I'm not anymore

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I love your "facts" though.

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[QUOTE=Localizer;927177]yup, we had a war on 2 fronts. Japan nailed pearl harbor; we were helping the frenchies, ruskies, and gap-teethed fools across the pond stave off the superrace. Was it brutal what we did to japan? yes, but so was what they did to china, aka the rape of nanking. So was what they did in Unit731. Let me know when you have something valuable to contribute.[/QUOTE]

Tell me exactly how "you" (btw i know you mean the US just had to point out that YOU had nothing to do with it) were helping the Russians? What in your book constitutes "help"? How did the US exactly provide this help? Is it kind words, prayer, encouragement?

Also Japan nailed Pearl Harbor after the US imposed an embargo on oil imports! What the hell is nation at war supposed to do without oil???

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Ya you're right Reso I guess it is better to just live in the "we will never know" state of mind.

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its called reality my friend.

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No it's called denial

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[QUOTE=Shpira;927510]Tell me exactly how "you" (btw i know you mean the US just had to point out that YOU had nothing to do with it) were helping the Russians? What in your book constitutes "help"? How did the US exactly provide this help? Is it kind words, prayer, encouragement?[/QUOTE]

We inadvertently helped the Russians by draining Hitler's resources having to fight a war on two fronts with the Americans coming from the west and the Russians from the east. There is no doubt the Russians really had more to do with defeating Hitler than anyone else involved in WW2, with their harsh winters and nearly endless supply of hard nosed dug in soldiers who would have been killed by Stalin if they didn't fight Hitler. Stalin killed a LOT of his own men. Lol, what a dumbass. Russia lost something like 25 million soldiers to the Germans, that's ridiculous, and Hitler still couldn't advance (again, 1. because of drained resources thanks to the US invasion and 2. Russian winter.) Americans were also providing war supplies ( later in the war built by American women no less) to Russia for the majority of the war, even before we entered the war on D-Day, so we did help Russia. There are a lot of ignorant people who will say dumb shit like this: "If America hadn't entered the war, yall'd be speakin GERMAN!"... which is bullshit. England would have been speaking German, but Hitler wasn't taking Russia. Let's not gather around and give a warm handjobs to the Russians though for their contribution to WW2. Russia was forced to fight. Russia, always has, and always will, look one for one thing- Russia. They didn't give a shit who Hitler gassed, the Americans did. "Helping the Russians" wasn't the reason we invaded, but to say the Russians didn't benefit from the US in WW2 is just being historically ignorant, or you're just trying to hate on the states- which the latter we get a lot of these days because of the last 10 years of some questionable imperialistic nonsense, but that's not a reason to ignore the history books for some of the good things we've done.

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Fuck me they are now attempting to tie Iran with 9/11. I haven't got to the end of this yet, do they mention Flight 655 in the film.

[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/71chunky/odds/Iran-stamp-Scott2335.jpg[/IMG]

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I love the way they state that Iran was funding terrorism. What was the funding of the coup in Chile? Pocket money.

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So 20 minutes in and we are told about Iran exporting its ideology's to foreign country's. Sort of like exporting democracy around the world, only we get upset when these country's elect someone we disagree with and try to overthrow them.

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FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!

Jesus, did Cheney produce this film?

Couldn't get through it.

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[QUOTE=chunky;927559]I love the way they state that Iran was funding terrorism. What was the funding of the coup in Chile? Pocket money.[/QUOTE]

doesn't negate the fact that iran is doing it. strong retard logic "oh this is wrong because.....this other thing happened...therefore this assertion is untrue". are you under the tutelage of runningman?

[QUOTE=chunky;927563]So 20 minutes in and we are told about Iran exporting its ideology's to foreign country's. Sort of like exporting democracy around the world, only we get upset when these country's elect someone we disagree with and try to overthrow them.[/QUOTE]

hezbollah shits on your ignorance.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;927530]its called reality my friend.[/QUOTE]

"I don't always engage in reality, but when i do, i don't"

-RM - the most ignorant man in the world

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[QUOTE]mericans were also providing war supplies ( later in the war built by American women no less) to Russia for the majority of the war, even before we entered the war on D-Day, so we did help Russia.[/QUOTE] not true. Supplies ONLY came after D-day...how exactly would you have delivered them before???

[QUOTE]Russia was forced to fight. Russia, always has, and always will, look one for one thing- Russia.[/QUOTE] Forced to fight? And how my American friend was Russia forced to fight? Ever heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? If one country in Europe didn't have to fight...it was them.

[QUOTE]They didn't give a shit who Hitler gassed, the Americans did. "Helping the Russians" wasn't the reason we invaded, but to say the Russians didn't benefit from the US in WW2 is just being historically ignorant, or you're just trying to hate on the states- which the latter we get a lot of these days because of the last 10 years of some questionable imperialistic nonsense, but that's not a reason to ignore the history books for some of the good things we've done.[/QUOTE]

You are getting ahead of yourself here..."Americans cared" you didn't fucking know! You didn't care, the UK didn't care no one gave a flying fuck because no once "knew" until the invasion of Germany began. I never said Russians didn't benefit, the whole of Europe undoubtedly benefited...but the US just like Russia and all others cares only for itself...which is why the D day invasion was postponed 3 times and the Russkies started distrusting the US. To say the US helped anyone...purposefully is being naive...the US knew that it would be next some years down the line just like Russia knew the same.

You are making more sense than usual Jenksy :shock: :Laugh:

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^All this talk about everyone looking out only for themselves coming from the guy with Che as his avatar, and also who keeps preaching Communism is the way forward and all will be peachy. :roflmao: :roflmao: