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@ vinney97 Do you have any idea just how contradictory your posts are :lol: What an awful site that is :shock: This is quite possibly the most racist statement I have ever read, and it's written by someone denying racism ?? :lol: All for the sake of one word.

[QUOTE] if some swarthy punk comes through your window to slit your throat for the change on your dresser and rapes your wife while he's at it, [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the Michael Moore interview though .:D Really interesting. Wow, at the Kmart thing.

Loved the comparisons with Canada!

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;920613]i did?

lmao. where to begin.[/QUOTE]

you must think america as a whole is much smarter than they actually are. hence all the terrorist talk every day on the news and other OMG TEH TERRORISTS ARE WINNING talk 24/7 for almost a decade now. americans in groups are dumb.

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;920608]Have you interviewed him? No one has much on him other than he's nuts from the random facts people are still piecing together.

I haven't said that it's right wing rhetoric that influenced him - you did. I said violent rhetoric.[/QUOTE]

atheist, commie, pot-smoking, zeitgeist loving, george w. bush hating grammar-obsessed gamer. yeah, i guess he MIGHT be a republican.

so lettuce ketchup with cereal highsteppa,

what you mean to say is right-wing 'violent rhetoric' is what 'influenced him'. amirite/

or are you suggesting, for, perhaps the first time, that violent left-wing rhetoric caused him to become an assailant?

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;920615]you must think america as a whole is much smarter than they actually are. hence all the terrorist talk every day on the news and other OMG TEH TERRORISTS ARE WINNING talk 24/7 for almost a decade now. americans in groups are dumb.[/QUOTE]

disregard pretentious white liberals talking down to everyone, acquire endless amusement.

"everyone is stupid but people who obsess over stewart and maher". that's what you meant to say.

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if you can make a sensical arguement without being batshit insane (beck) or interrupting every other human you talk to within 5 seconds so you can talk down to them like a condescending prick (oreilly), then you have my attention. it doesnt matter if you have an degree from oxford, or if you graduated from the second city.

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Holy shit, DIDI, "SWARTHY" (having dark complexion or color) is now racist? Political correctness has corrupted your mind.

Highsteppa, I'm not trying to WIN in your mind. I know my argument is on solid ground, and I had to adjust my argument because yours keeps changing. Hard to keep up with whatever you're trying to convey.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;920619]if you can make a sensical arguement without being batshit insane (beck) or interrupting every other human you talk to within 5 seconds so you can talk down to them like a condescending prick (oreilly), then you have my attention. it doesnt matter if you have an degree from oxford, or if you graduated from the second city.[/QUOTE]

why are newsmen making arguments? just wondering.

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;920621]why are newsmen making arguments? just wondering.[/QUOTE]

hummmmmmmm.....ratings maybe?

also to heard off your response of 'if they are making arguments then they arent newsmen', see previous post:

[quote]and you can bank on 98% of america seeing any of those commentators/newsmen/talking heads above as reporters because of the fact that they are on fox/cnn/msnbc/etc all the time.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;920616]atheist, commie, pot-smoking, zeitgeist loving, george w. bush hating grammar-obsessed gamer. yeah, i guess he MIGHT be a republican. [/QUOTE]

It's funny how you keep accusing me of saying that I'm blaming the right wing, but you're the one making all of his political affiliations based on what little data there is. First there's no connection to any of it, but then there's your own political bias shining through and projected on him in order to make yourself feel a bit better about the position you support politically. Project much?

[quote] so lettuce ketchup with cereal highsteppa, [/quote]This line just proves that you suck at metaphores.

[quote] what you mean to say is right-wing 'violent rhetoric' is what 'influenced him'. amirite/[/quote]No. Again, that's [B]YOU[/B] coming to that conclusion. Nowhere in this thread have I said that.

[quote] or are you suggesting, for, perhaps the first time, that violent left-wing rhetoric caused him to become an assailant?[/quote]I haven't said that either and wouldn't be even the same remote mindspace as you would to even suggest something as galactically stupid as that. I'm saying the toxic political atmosphere that currently advocates violent imagery, demagoguery and all or nothing eliminationist arguments deserve the scrutiny that they've been getting, regardless of which side has said it, which has been permeating around in American politics for way too long.

If you see that as being a threat to your own political views, well that's your fucking problem to sort out in your own head.

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;920623]It's funny how you keep accusing me of saying that I'm blaming the right wing, but you're the one making all of his political affiliations based on what little data there is. First there's no connection to any of it, but then there's your own political bias shining through and projected on him in order to make yourself feel a bit better about the position you support politically. Project much?

This line just proves that you suck at metaphores.

No. Again, that's [B]YOU[/B] coming to that conclusion. Nowhere in this thread have I said that.

I haven't said that either and wouldn't be even the same remote mindspace as you would to even suggest something as galactically stupid as that. I'm saying the toxic political atmosphere that currently advocates violent imagery, demagoguery and all or nothing eliminationist arguments deserve the scrutiny that they've been getting, regardless of which side has said it, which has been permeating around in American politics for way too long.

If you see that as being a threat to your own political views, well that's your fucking problem to sort out in your own head.[/QUOTE]

where is this 'violent rhetoric' coming from, then? liber-fucking-tarians?

could you at least provide SOME source to what particular 'violent rhetoric' you're talking about? otherwise, i'm going to assume you're just making shit up for the sake of arguing.

"there's violent rhetoric...it's NOT from conservatives or liberals....and i'm mum about it's source...but really definitely not from conservatives'

also, you have no bloody clue about my political views, so i'm loling at your suggesting that it might taint it because it 'threaten's it. how simple of you.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;920620]Highsteppa, I'm not trying to WIN in your mind. I know my argument is on solid ground, and I had to adjust my argument because yours keeps changing. Hard to keep up with whatever you're trying to convey.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure that in your paranoid little mind your argument is rock solid, even though it's more knee jerk, judgmental, accusation prone and full of selective reading. If you're having trouble following what I'm saying, then follow the instructions that I posted earlier. But I'm guessing you skipped over all of that in order to find the words "liberal", "leftist", "democrat" or "commie" like it's your my first word search book from grade 1.

Keep at it homeslice.

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@ vinnie97 Read you own post :lol: Used in that context it most certainly is ! The old PC attack is so last century. :lol: Actually did it ever work even then ??

I can't tell you how glad I am that I don't live in America :)

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;920624]where is this 'violent rhetoric' coming from, then? liber-fucking-tarians?

could you at least provide SOME source to what particular 'violent rhetoric' you're talking about? otherwise, i'm going to assume you're just making shit up for the sake of arguing.

"there's violent rhetoric...it's NOT from conservatives or liberals....and i'm mum about it's source...but really definitely not from conservatives'

also, you have no bloody clue about my political views, so i'm loling at your suggesting that it might taint it because it 'threaten's it. how simple of you.[/QUOTE]

I'll spell this out for you: [U]all[/U] violent rhetoric. I couldn't care less if it's coming from the left or the right. The shit's gotta stop if the country's members that are being designated as leadership thinks that the conversation is being productive based on the criteria I'm criticizing. Are you really that dense?

Stop thinking in 2 dimensional or black and white terms for Chrissakes.

And for a guy that's so offended by what you perceive as being told what your political views are, you're more than willing to brand anyone else with your simplistic, accusatory views of what their politics are.

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ahh where do I begin. I havent said anything int he last couple pages and what I see is disturbing. Look at the attacks on Vinnie. Vinnie has a good idea Im sure of what it is like to go against the liberalism on this site.

When did I get the nickname Runnynose....

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Lowsteppa, welcome to ignore (the first to receive the honor, congrats). Please stay in Canada and take your own advice (sorry, RM ;)). I can't stand your pontificating verbal diarrhea because I know it's all hinged on blaming whitey and those violent right-wingers. You jumped on that bandwagon as soon as you arrived in this thread...your deflections to the contrary are full of shit.

DIDI, if the drug fits the face...

And no, making a point of fact is NOT racist, no matter how flippantly it was uttered. This is one of the worst ages of political correctness in modern times, with the thought police ready to pounce at any sign of an incorrect belief being expressed.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;920630]Lowsteppa, welcome to ignore. Please stay in Canada and take your own advice (sorry, RM ;)). I can't stand your pontificating verbal diarrhea because I know it's all hinged on blaming whitey and those violent right-wingers. You jumped on that bandwagon as soon as you arrived in this thread...your deflections to the contrary are full of shit.[/QUOTE]

Funny, you still haven't proven once of any of the positions that you've accused me of having. If this is your way of saying that you're not competent enough to back up what you're accusing others of, I accept your acknowledgment of failure.

Thanks for coming out!

[quote] And no, making a point of fact is NOT racist. This is one of the worst ages of political correctness in modern times, with the thought police ready to pounce at any sign of an incorrect belief being expressed.[/quote]While it is still you running back to Orwell terminology like a bitch with a skinned knee to mommy, I do appreciate you denying what comes across as pretty ignorant on your part without resorting to saying that you have a friend that's black (or Asian or whatever), so that immediately disqualifies you as being racist in any way. That would have been way more pathetic.

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You see people don't understand racism!! that is not racist Didi and Highsteppa. Look up the definition of racism. God the media has done an amazing job of brainwashing white people into believing that if you talk about colored people you are a racist.

I bet Highsteppa doesn't even have one colored friend of any type yet he calls us racists

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[QUOTE=runningman;920634]You see people don't understand racism!! that is not racist Didi. Look up the definition of racism. God the media has done an amazing job of brainwashing white people into believing that if you talk about [u][B]colored people[/u][/B] you are a racist.[/QUOTE]

Oh the ironing!

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;920628]I'll spell this out for you: [U]all[/U] violent rhetoric. I couldn't care less if it's coming from the left or the right. The shit's gotta stop if the country's members that are being designated as leadership thinks that the conversation is being productive based on the criteria I'm criticizing. Are you really that dense?

Stop thinking in 2 dimensional or black and white terms for Chrissakes.

And for a guy that's so offended by what you perceive as being told what your political views are, you're more than willing to brand anyone else with your simplistic, accusatory views of what their politics are.[/QUOTE]

so you come in here to denounce "ALL" violent rhetoric, notwithstanding the truly magnificent 'smear' job (see thread title) the MSM has rubber stamped onto conservatives absent any indication that it was 'violent right-wing rhetoric' that caused.

glad to know you've come here to simply bullshit for the sake of bullshitting.

glad to see that you blame both the right, left and center for their 'violent rhetoric'. (or maybe you're blaming nobody at all? then from where would you find this violent rhetoric?"

personally, i think you're sidestepping. you blame 'all' 'violent rhetoric' but give no sources that might have influenced loughner. but you are certain that 'violent rhetoric' caused this. so where are you connecting the dots? or are you blaming 'violent rhetoric' without having any evidence that violent rhetoric caused the shooting? then why blame violent rhetoric (from whatever source?)

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what ironing? what does that mean?

Colored highsteppa is someone who isn't white ex Black, Thai, Chinese, Indian........

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[QUOTE=runningman;920638]what ironing? what does that mean?

Colored highsteppa is someone who isn't white ex Black, Thai, Chinese, Indian........[/QUOTE]

and what if he is white?

lettuce be ironing....

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That's okay 88mariner. I understand. You're not hearing what you want to hear and because of that, it doesn't fit into your narrow world view. If you want to think of my position that as sidestepping, because you want to keep pushing until you hear me say what you want to believe, go ahead. To single out one side and broad brush them with being the cause of it is idiotic, since the world doesn't work in such simplistic terms like what you're seeking.

If the illusions of persecution by the MSM, and therefore you immediate distrust of it are what makes you feel better about your position, and how you feel is a reflection on you, please continue if that's what makes you feel comfortable. Throw the baby out with the bathwater if it works for you.

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[QUOTE=runningman;920638]what ironing? what does that mean?

Colored highsteppa is someone who isn't white ex Black, Thai, Chinese, Indian........[/QUOTE]

LOL again.

Holy fuck, you're ignorant.

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;920641]That's okay 88mariner. I understand. You're not hearing what you want to hear and because of that, it doesn't fit into your narrow world view. If you want to think of my position that as sidestepping, because you want to keep pushing until you hear me say what you want to believe, go ahead. To single out one side and broad brush them with being the cause of it is idiotic, since the world doesn't work in such simplistic terms like what you're seeking.

If the illusions of persecution by the MSM, and therefore you immediate distrust of it are what makes you feel better about your position, and how you feel is a reflection on you, please continue if that's what makes you feel comfortable. Throw the baby out with the bathwater if it works for you.[/QUOTE]

i'm just asking you for something.....ANYTHING that gave you the impression that it was 'violent rherotic' that caused this shooting.

have you provided a link on another page that i'm not aware of?

otherwise...you're just....making shit up.

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again nothing of relevance. Did you go to the Resonator school of posts? You always have no evidence to back you up yet you always call me ignorant about my views? At least I bring articles to back up my statments. You bring name calling and nothing

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Look the bottom line is that the media is pointing the finger at anyone they want for this tragedy. And since most media is liberal they called out the radical right even though this guy was a liberal.

I'm surprised they haven't called out the birthers yet.

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[QUOTE=runningman;920644]again nothing of relevance. Did you go to the Resonator school of posts? You always have no evidence to back you up yet you always call me ignorant about my views? At least I bring articles to back up my statments. You bring name calling and nothing[/QUOTE]

I've done everything except shove the NIST reports (only 200 scientists who actually have degrees relevant to their field of investigation) up your ass related to all of your 9/11 pseudo technobabble. Your rebuttles from dudes who work as part time waiters analyzing youtube videos do not count as 'experts'.

So this post above can be deleted or marked as spam now.

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oh save it for the 9/11 threads cry baby. Were talking left and right here. Get in on it.. It's good

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[QUOTE=runningman;920647]oh save it for the 9/11 threads cry baby. Were talking left and right here. Get in on it.. It's good[/QUOTE]

Like I said before. I could be a recognized expert in my field of X and given my PhD dissertation at Oxford about subject X. But if random idiot Y posts video Z on crazy-conspiricy.com, then said statement X is automatically invalid. So I don't need to spend time T to justify myself as idiot Y will always win.

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[QUOTE=runningman;920647]oh save it for the 9/11 threads cry baby. Were talking left and right here. Get in on it.. It's good[/QUOTE]

well everyone but highsteppa. i imagine he blames airplanes for 9/11.

you two go back to that thread pls

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;920649]well everyone but highsteppa. i imagine he blames airplanes for 9/11.[/QUOTE]

i blame the people flying :lol:

but if i can sue boeing for any $, lmk, im in.

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no the gas in the airplanes...:lol::lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;920650]i blame the people flying :lol:

but if i can sue boeing for any $, lmk, im in.[/QUOTE]

lol

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at least the thread's turned to jokes now...better tone and all. ;-) Just before I take the aforementioned topic of birther and go serious again....

Speaking of the birthers (and as the "racist" I am, I wear the birther title proud), there's new ammunition: [URL]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833[/URL] (HI Governor can't find BC, may risk re-election chances)

If that's too right-wing for your sensibilities, here's something from the Honolulu Star Advertiser and the governor of HI himself:

[URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html[/URL]

[quote]Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.[/quote]Oops.

Dr. Fukino from Hawaii Dept. Of Health said two years ago that the original BC was on file...I guess the file's gone missin' since they now have to rely on an elusive state archive entry.

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ya i just saw that.. Boy is that some egg on his face.

They can't find his birth certificate because it doesn't exist.

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if you are a birther you are an idiot plain and simple. no getting around it. you are basically saying anyone and everyone in the us gov't involved with vetting a person who is TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA are total knobs and have no idea what they are doing. THAT my friend is idiotic.

Also, this wouldn't have happened if the current pres didnt have such keywords associated with him as: black, kenya, hawaii, hussein.

The whole birther nonsense from anyone in gov't is cover for: i dont like this black guy who wasn't born in the midwest.

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dude the governor of the state of hawaii can't find it. it doesn't exist. where is it hiding in area 51 you conspiracy wako

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Res, I spared you the trouble by calling myself a "racist." His history is a mirage with scores of documents sealed from public view. Those who have nothing to hide don't spend millions to keep so much of their history under lock and key. And no, it's his whole commie upbringing, his radical ties and his political agenda that I dislike the most. The questionable constitutionality of his Presidency is just another strike against him. Finally, Lt. Col. Allen West is an example of a black man holding office who has my total and complete support. Keep on propping up the puppet, though.

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wnd.com is site Y i was mentioning above. which is amazing, because skipping to the first link in the article wnd.com links to, from 'the star advisor' :[URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html[/URL]

skimming quickly for 'obama' in the ref'd link:

Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

[COLOR=magenta][I](Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)[/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.[/COLOR] If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.

:lol: you have failed. again.

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[QUOTE=runningman;920660]dude the governor of the state of hawaii can't find it. it doesn't exist. where is it hiding in area 51 [COLOR=magenta]you conspiracy wako[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

best quote of all time.