Re: Arrogant Americans Views On Canada

[quote=cosmo]All about the money? Who cares? That process has led us to have the highest standard of health care in the world.

The greedy accusation is a lame argument if you ask me.[/quote]

thats so bloody laughable i dont know where to start. FORTY PERCENT of americans DONT have health coverage; how exactly is that the best health care in the world?? you might have the best doctors, but nearly half your population never gets to see them.

Re: Arrogant Americans Views On Canada

^i do! :)

So what's better, shitty health care for everyone? or excellent healthcare for those that can afford it?

Neither really, but given an option, i'll pay for really good care.

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A lot of people disagree with you on that one Jenks, especially those that cannot afford it.

Best would be health care for everyone, but for just once financially managed well byt the government. IMO some thing should be kept out of the commercial realm, and health care is one of them. It is fucking ridiculous that people should be coughing up money for the rest of their lives if by an unfortunate event they have to apply for medical treatment.

However...I am in favour of rewarding those with a healthy lifestyle vs those that have habits that make them a bloody liability (smokers, drinkers, basejumpers etc.). I'm not about to pay for an asshole that deems it necessary to fuck up his own body at my expense.

Re: Arrogant Americans Views On Canada

I live in the states and I think canada is a very beautiful country. They do a lot for there citizens and the immigrants that live there unlike in the states were everyone is on there own for the most part. The only thing I would not like if I lived in canada is the fact that the gov't controls your medical insurance. So it can sometime take a while to visit a dr. but canada does not have the stupid lawsuits all the time either. I would live in canada if I could find a job. This just shows how dumb some poeple in america are. Believe me as an american it piss me off just as much. Dumb people should be shot.

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In Australia, health care for the entire nation is paid for by the tax payer. The system works fine, you may have to wait a while for non emergency procedures or to see a Dr but at least you won't be told to piss of and die because you don't have any $$$$. There is private health care for those who can afford it and want it, but it's not forced upon us.

I do not for the life of me, ever want to see a person getting refused health care in my country on the basis that he or she cannot afford it or does not have any money.

If it means we have to pay higher taxes, then so be it. This option is way cheaper for the tax payer than having to pay unreasonable amounts of $$$$ every month/year for private health insurance that you hardly/never use.

Re: Arrogant Americans Views On Canada

Alot of ignorant comments regarding the Canadian health care system. It does not take forever to see a doctor. If you need to see a doctor, you can see a doctor that day. You need to see your GP, maybe make an appointment to get a preferable time that week. You need to see the sugeon for life saving treatment, then Canada will make sure your still alive more often than not. Keep in mind, not everybody can be saved ALL the time too. On the whole the public system is far cheaper and more accessible. Trust me, it's really nice to walk into a clinic if I'm feeling particularly Ill and not have to start weighing cost/benifet.

Now I'll also admit the Canadian system has a few problems it needs to iron out. Alot of doctors do get drained to the states where people have to pay an arm and a leg to see them, and that's a big part of the problem. Needless to say, it's the lucrative, specialized surgeries or tests that have the longest waiting times up here. Money is being put back into the system where cutbacks have caused problems though, and issues and ineffiencies are being worked out. I can't fathom how the US system, where the disabled have to work to struggle just to pay for an attempt at normality, is better than our system though.