Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

when he says he represents the famillies of 9/11 I think you all should have more respect for those families. You should take him seriously.

Everybody has done stupid things in their past especially many of YOUR representatives in congress and senate.

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^^ I don't take him seriously and I don't see why he credibly represents anything. Especially when I catch him spewing out some of the same tired arguments that have already been discredited years ago. But I don't take many of our elected officials seriously, either.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=Miroslav;789021]Afraid of being associated with him, perhaps. They have their reputations to consider.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Lets debate a coke using prostitute banging tv star, I am a US representative of course, this would be a smart use of my time.

[QUOTE=chunky;789042]George W Bush wasn't the brightest of stars either and some you guys elected him. What you do by not challenging them is tolerating them. People are willing to go on TV and challenge Neo Nazi's, the KKK and other radical groups but not Charlie Sheen.

When Steven Jones appeared on mainstream American media they wouldnt even show the collapse of building 7.[/QUOTE]

Actually the MAJORITY of the US people elected him, not some. This is why he was allowed to be put in office. I think this is how this works.

Are really people this out of touch with reality? No one is going to waste time on some dumbshit actors pet theory he made up between eating at the kraft food cart between takes of his sitcom. If actual important figures allow time for this type of nonsense to be dealt with then more and more idiots will come forward and demand airtime too, which is not what is needed.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=runningman;789048]when he says he represents the famillies of 9/11 I think you all should have more respect for those families. You should take him seriously.

Everybody has done stupid things in their past especially many of YOUR representatives in congress and senate.[/QUOTE]

i dont really know this answer as fact, but i can safely assume that 9/11 families DO NOT think charlie sheen represents them, and that this was a government cover up. they DO believe that terrorists from overseas killed their family members that day. not the government.

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[QUOTE=runningman;789048]when he says he represents the famillies of 9/11 I think you all should have more respect for those families. You should take him seriously.

Everybody has done stupid things in their past especially many of YOUR representatives in congress and senate.[/QUOTE]

haha this is priceless, so let me get this clear, you dont think that this dude is taking advantage of this to get more attention? do you really think this dude is doing it for the families??

be realistic dude, you think anyone would want to sit down with carrothead to discuss the economy? or with will farrell to talk about wall street??

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;789063]Are really people this out of touch with reality? No one is going to waste time on some dumbshit actors pet theory he made up between eating at the kraft food cart between takes of his sitcom. If actual important figures allow time for this type of nonsense to be dealt with then more and more idiots will come forward and demand airtime too, which is not what is needed.[/QUOTE]

This is a bit more than some TV actors pet theory. You'Ve given air time to radical groups in the past. You have also given air time to Charlie Sheen in the past it just seems strange no one will have a live debate with him on TV. In the UK David Bellamy was allowed to appear on Channel 4 to debate his views on global warming, Channel 4 wiped the floor with him. No one hears of David Bellamy anymore. They didn't tolerate him, they challenged him. It seems the US way is to bury its head in the sand.

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[QUOTE=Cj Tari;789024]have you also considered the idea that maybe nobody takes Charly Sheen seriously? [/QUOTE]

Spot on. I actually assumed this to be the case. The world's biggest douche bag wants air time to debate, and networks aren't lapping that up? Stunner. :lol:

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60% of the 9/11 commmission say it was a scam (Manny Badillo Uncle Died 9/11). Doesn't that matter to you?

The american media way seems to be ignorant and bury things. Spot on Chunky.

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[QUOTE=runningman;789078]60% of the 9/11 commmission say it was a scam (Manny Badillo Uncle Died 9/11). Doesn't that matter to you?[/QUOTE]

please send me a link from the official 9/11 comission site with this information and i will review it.

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[QUOTE=toasty;789076]Spot on. I actually assumed this to be the case. The world's biggest douche bag wants air time to debate, and networks aren't lapping that up? Stunner. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Some of the the 9/11 victim's families want a proper investigation, they aren't getting that either.

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[QUOTE=chunky;789073]This is a bit more than some TV actors pet theory. You'Ve given air time to radical groups in the past. You have also given air time to Charlie Sheen in the past it just seems strange no one will have a live debate with him on TV. In the UK David Bellamy was allowed to appear on Channel 4 to debate his views on global warming, Channel 4 wiped the floor with him. No one hears of David Bellamy anymore. They didn't tolerate him, they challenged him. It seems the US way is to bury its head in the sand.[/QUOTE]

no one is debating him because it is so ignorant and basically just shits on everyones memory who died in 9/11. i wish this was like germany where if you say stupid shit like this about 9/11 you get arrested, like you can over there if you deny the holocaust. this would shut up all of these morons who do this in their free time to stir the pot. lets see how 'interested in truth' sheen is when he is facing some jail time.

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[QUOTE=runningman;789048]when he says he represents the famillies of 9/11 I think you all should have more respect for those families. You should take him seriously. [/QUOTE]

Hang on, pal. We are not required to give The World's Biggest Asshole respect because he purports to do what he does on behalf of the 9/11 families. The guy is a Grade A tool, and you don't just wipe that away and suddenly treat him as a rational, thoughtful human being because he's dragged the 9/11 families into this. If anything, I think he's more of a douche for using them as props to try to add emotional appeal to his theory.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=chunky;789081]Some of the the 9/11 victim's families want a proper investigation, they aren't getting that either.[/QUOTE]

Well, so be it -- but there is nothing talismanic about Charlie Sheen, and I can't say I'm surprised that his connection to these theories have not imbued it with fresh credibility.

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[QUOTE=chunky;789081]Some of the the 9/11 victim's families want a proper investigation, they aren't getting that either.[/QUOTE]

The problem, though, is that I have a feeling that the only "proper" investigation is one that concludes that the US was in on it.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;789082]no one is debating him because it is so ignorant and basically just shits on everyone's memory who died in 9/11. i wish this was like Germany where if you say stupid shit like this about 9/11 you get arrested, like you can over there if you deny the holocaust. this would shut up all of these morons who do this in their free time to stir the pot. lets see how 'interested in truth' sheen is when he is facing some jail time.[/QUOTE]

Interesting I lived in (Guterslosh) Germany for 10 years. Are you saying in Germany they don't have freedom of speech. What do they do with these Holocaust deniers once they have arrested them. Locking up people because you don't like their views, seems a bit barbaric to me. To challenge them and prove they a wrong is the was forward. Not persecution. Do you want to round up the Gays, Travelers or anyone else to.

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[QUOTE=toasty;789087]The problem, though, is that I have a feeling that the only "proper" investigation is one that concludes that the US was in on it.[/QUOTE]

No a proper independent investigation is one that is funded properly, everyone is interviewed on oath, every effort is made to answer all the questions of the victims, and is not tampered with by the American Government.

Not like this

[URL]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481[/URL]#

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=runningman;789078]60% of the 9/11 commmission say it was a scam (Manny Badillo Uncle Died 9/11). Doesn't that matter to you?

The american media way seems to be ignorant and bury things. Spot on Chunky.[/QUOTE]

giving airtime to Sheen would be like giving airtime to you, why in gods name would they want to give airtime to someone who bases his theories on youtube videos and google links? that is just something that is not gonna happen, whenever the media gives air time to ignorant fools like Sheen, they basically do it with stories that "sell" that have the public interest and can be easyly proven with hard facts, not with made up ideas from so called "experts" that live in their moms basements.

today i was reading on the internet something that made me LOL , something to the lines of " so, our goverment, the one that is unable to run medicare and is unable to run our economy is suddenly able to orchestrate such diabolical plan to perfection".

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[QUOTE=Cj Tari;789092]giving airtime to Sheen would be like giving airtime to you, why in gods name would they want to give airtime to someone who bases his theories on youtube videos and google links? that is just something that is not gonna happen, whenever the media gives air time to ignorant fools like Sheen, they basically do it with stories that "sell" that have the public interest and can be easyly proven with hard facts, not with made up ideas from so called "experts" that live in their moms basements.[/QUOTE]

10 Downing Street post their videos on youtube. Instead you prefer to go a long with US mainstream media. what I'm saying is prove these people wrong by having the debate.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=chunky;789088]Interesting I lived in (Guterslosh) Germany for 10 years. Are you saying in Germany they don't have freedom of speech. What do they do with these Holocaust deniers once they have arrested them. Locking up people because you don't like their views, seems a bit barbaric to me. To challenge them and prove they a wrong is the was forward. Not persecution. Do you want to round up the Gays, Travelers or anyone else to.[/QUOTE]

Not at all. I just think it seems to be to be a good idea to lock up people who act so ignorant to keep the rest of us from having to hear about it every minute as a good thing ;)

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;789099]Not at all. I just think it seems to be to be a good idea to lock up people who act so ignorant to keep the rest of us from having to hear about it every minute as a good thing ;)[/QUOTE]

It sounds like fascism to me, locking people up because you don't like to hear what they say.

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in this case, that is fine with me.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;789102]in this case, that is fine with me.[/QUOTE]

Why because you are scared of them :?: Sounds like something Starlin, Hitler or Hussein would do.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=chunky;789105]Why because you are scared of them :?: Sounds like something Starlin, Hitler or Hussein would do.[/QUOTE]

because the constant idiotic talk is becoming quite old, and i think actually making my IQ drop is why.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=chunky;789105]Why because you are scared of them :?: Sounds like something Starlin, Hitler or Hussein would do.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more Chunky and i think that is a massive problem in the western world.

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all I hear on here is what Chunky said people affraid of the truth. I can't speak for Chunky but I don't think the government was in on it directly as a whole. I just think that a real investigation should take place. What is so wrong with that?

Toasty if your wife was murdered wouldn't you want the real version of what happened or just a story with no accountablity and nobody going to jail for it. Who went to jail for 9/11? Why weren't the planes shot down? Why am I supposed to believe that Hani Hanjour did things with a plane that an experienced pilot couldn't do? Again these are just some of the facts that people like Manny Badillo and the 9/11 families want answered. I still don't see what is so bad about it. I mean the NIST couldn't recreate what happened to the WTC towers when remaking it in a furnace!! They use proof by CGI rather than proof by recreation. These are MAJOR problems with the stories that we have been told. If Charlie Sheen can't sleep at night because he fears the road the country is going down then why can't he have use his celebrity to have a voice? God knows Bono and other losers use their celebrity to push their ideals...

Also what about Sibel edmonds testimony? Why was she gaged for years?

Listen to the disclaimer at the end of this video..lol

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkDzikztPiI&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

PS CJ when it comes to killing people nobody is better at it than the US. Remember that!

Also Toasty are you for the Heroin war in Afghanistan now that Obama is President?

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=runningman;789123] Toasty if your wife was murdered wouldn't you want the real version of what happened or just a story with no accountablity and nobody going to jail for it. [/QUOTE]

:shock: wtf rm

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

The primary point of my posts in this thread is this:

Charlie Sheen is an epic douchebag. His attachment to this issue -- or any issue, for that matter -- does not lend added credibility to that issue and if anything has the opposite effect. If you're wondering why nobody is listening to Charlie Sheen, might I remind you that it is Charlie Sheen.

I have no problem with people investigating this. For me, it's pretty clear what happened, but if you want to conduct your own investigation, knock your socks off. You may not, however, force me to take you seriously, nor do I think it is a good use of my tax dollars.

There are lots of things about 9/11 that don't make a hell of a lot of sense, but it does not follow that those gaps in the record are necessarily filled with sinister, nefarious, conspiratorial acts. I saw all I needed to see on 9/11 itself to explain why those buildings fell, and attribute most of those oddities to the fact that we don't really have enough experience with flying fuel-laden jumbo jets into 100+ floor buildings to know exactly what to expect. If people want to continue to look into it, but I think it is a waste of time and money, AND I think that a lot of people already have their mind made up anyway, further lessening the need for investigation.

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[QUOTE=runningman;789123] Also Toasty are you for the Heroin war in Afghanistan now that Obama is President?[/QUOTE]

I've always been in favor of the war in Afghanistan.

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ok but why didn't someone in the defense department go to jail for negligence? Someone was in charge of protecting the US citizen. Why wasn't Donald Rumsfeld fired? What a failure he was that day.

oh fuck are you kidding me?? Afghanistan is the good war eh? Iraq is the bad war but the Heroin war is the good war. ok.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IYYWkZQng&feature=channel_page[/YOUTUBE]

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[QUOTE=runningman;789140]ok but why didn't someone in the defense department go to jail for negligence? Someone was in charge of protecting the US citizen. Why wasn't Donald Rumsfeld fired? What a failure he was that day.

oh fuck are you kidding me?? Afghanistan is the good war eh? Iraq is the bad war but the Heroin war is the good war. ok.

[/QUOTE]

I'm in favor of Obama bin Laden's head on a stake on the White House lawn, and that's pretty much where it starts and ends with me. The rest of it (Taliban, heroin, etc.) is atmospherics AFAIC.

Apart from the fact that you're confusing civil and criminal terminology, you raise some shockingly good questions about the lack of accountability on 9/11. Guys like Rumsfeld and Tenet should have been canned, and instead they got medals. I don't get it. My best guess as to the "why" behind them staying in their positions is part cronyism, part significant intervening force in the form of OBL having his goons intentionally fly planes into our buildings.

If only someone would have sent Bush a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within US" that outlined the use of passenger planes as missiles, they could have seen this coming. Ultimately, though, I blame OBL and al Qaeda for what happened on 9/11. I blame Bush and his buddies for everything that happened after that.

Re: Charlie Sheen 9/11 Theory??

[QUOTE=runningman;789123]all I hear on here is what Chunky said people affraid of the truth. I can't speak for Chunky but I don't think the government was in on it directly as a whole. I just think that a real investigation should take place. What is so wrong with that?

Toasty if your wife was murdered wouldn't you want the real version of what happened or just a story with no accountablity and nobody going to jail for it. Who went to jail for 9/11? Why weren't the planes shot down? Why am I supposed to believe that Hani Hanjour did things with a plane that an experienced pilot couldn't do? Again these are just some of the facts that people like Manny Badillo and the 9/11 families want answered. I still don't see what is so bad about it. I mean the NIST couldn't recreate what happened to the WTC towers when remaking it in a furnace!! They use proof by CGI rather than proof by recreation. These are MAJOR problems with the stories that we have been told. If Charlie Sheen can't sleep at night because he fears the road the country is going down then why can't he have use his celebrity to have a voice? God knows Bono and other losers use their celebrity to push their ideals...

Also what about Sibel edmonds testimony? Why was she gaged for years?

Listen to the disclaimer at the end of this video..lol

[YOUTUBE]jkDzikztPiI[/YOUTUBE]

PS CJ when it comes to killing people nobody is better at it than the US. Remember that!

Also Toasty are you for the Heroin war in Afghanistan now that Obama is President?[/QUOTE]

the only thing i learned from this video is that i now know that i want to bang a french newscaster.

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[QUOTE=Cj Tari;789092]giving airtime to Sheen would be like giving airtime to you, why in gods name would they want to give airtime to someone who bases his theories on youtube videos and google links? that is just something that is not gonna happen, whenever the media gives air time to ignorant fools like Sheen, they basically do it with stories that "sell" that have the public interest and can be easyly proven with hard facts, not with made up ideas from so called "experts" that live in their moms basements.

today i was reading on the internet something that made me LOL , something to the lines of " so, our goverment, the one that is unable to run medicare and is unable to run our economy is suddenly able to orchestrate such diabolical plan to perfection".[/QUOTE]

the reason they give him airtime is because he's still pointing at the wrong direction. he's another Alex Jones. esp. ON FOX? lol...