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[quote=toasty;731006]:shock: This is all starting to make a lot more sense... :lol::lol::lol:

Sooooo, any time there's a terrorist attack, you start sending out FOIA requests to see if you can get to the bottom of it? #sweetfancymoses[/quote]

Not really but you should expect the attack to be treated like a crime and the location a crime scene. Surley if you are not happy with the information you are getting the answer is to ask questions and expect a response and it to stand up to scrutiny. I prefer transparency, you obviously dont. the Bush Administration didn't even want an investigation and they wouldn't of had one if it wasn't for The Jersey Widow's

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[QUOTE=toasty;731006] #sweetfancymoses[/QUOTE]

totally & completely unrelated to any of this ^ that is one f*cking LMAO word to read or say aloud :lol:

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[quote=chunky;731002]But there are plenty of people who where interviewed, the African American that was in building No#7 as an example his account doesn't match the official story, never do many of the rescue services that where there on that day. You say there is overwhelming evidence then let us see it. Because if you think we've seen it I feel sorry for you. It seems to me you would rather burry it and not have it challenged. How many people have to challenge the Official Story before they get the investigation they deserve. for fucks sake they appointed apponted Henry Kissinger to chair the investigation.[/quote]

There is plenty that I, you, and the world at large doesn't know about the attacks of 9/11, I'll give you that. Whether or not a plane hit the Pentagon is not one of the open questions, however, and latching on to that as the Question of the Day makes you sound like a fucking lunatic.

You feel sorry for me? Dude, I realize you don't know me from Adam, but over the course of this conversation, I've gone from thinking you were a bit of a nut in a harmless way to being legitimately concerned for your sanity, no bullshit. This is utter madness. I am, however, pulling for you on a personal level, so I've got to bow out of this discussion, because now I just feel like I'm adding fuel to the fire.

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Guys just calm down a little a?

I understand Chunky's pissed off...to be honest I was too for a long time and now honestly I don't care. Why should I be the crusader busting my balls (and other ppls) in hope of reaching the truth? Its pretty obvious that there was some kind of a cover up...for what reason is less relevant. People are dead and there should have been a transparent investigation into the whole ordeal...instead we have a pile of shit on 585 pages. I do think that there are bigger issues with 9/11 than the pentagon like building no.7, molten steel and the way the buildings collapsed etc. The pentagon is the iceing on the cake.

p.s. There you go thats another example of why Obama is the same shit as Bush...if he was trully different a public investigation into the whole thing would be made spearing no expense and no individual from punishment.

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[quote=Shpira;731049]Guys just calm down a little a? [/quote]

For the record, I couldn't be less pissed, I have moved on to sincere concern. I liked chunky before this, and I'll like him after this, but chunky, bro, you are way off the deep end on this one IMO. :|

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[QUOTE=Shpira;731049]Guys just calm down a little a?

I understand Chunky's pissed off...to be honest I was too for a long time and now honestly I don't care. .[/QUOTE]

I thought this was a pretty mellow exchange of thoughts, questions, notions and ideas. Is anyone pissed off?

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;731013]totally & completely unrelated to any of this ^ that is one f*cking LMAO word to read or say aloud :lol:[/QUOTE]

^times 2. That little phrase/word set me off.. Haven't heard that in quite some time. :lol:

Thanks for the belly laugh...

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;731062]I thought this was a pretty mellow exchange of thoughts, questions, notions and ideas. Is anyone pissed off?[/QUOTE]

I didn't think anyone was pissed off until I just noticed that I received this comment

"don't be a dick"

& negative reputation for the following post:

[Quote: Originally Posted by toasty
Still waiting to hear what became of flight 77 and the people on it, and why anyone would bother to fake a plane crash when there were 3 other planes that had already been crashed, and there was a fourth perfectly good plane that could be crashed.

My Post (responding to Toasty): The passengers of Flight 77 have become property of the US government and are no longer even known by their names. They each have a serial number and are warehoused in a remote corner of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (right next to the remaining Weegers) where the US Constitution has no reach.]

I am not allowed to have my own twist on this conspiracy? Wasn't trying to be a dick. Only guessing at what became of the members of flight 77.

I was going to say that they were shipped off by Dick Cheney's orders to the planet Neptar where they will arrive in 536 light years, but I thought the Guantanamo supposition might be a bit more plausible... :roll:

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I can't believe I haven't been a part of this talk about 9/11.

Toasty don't be concerned for anyone's sanity but your own. Calling someone a lunatic because they want an investigation into 9/11 is far from crazy. The real question is why is it so bad to not believe your government?? Hell history tells us that government and religion are the two most corrupt organizations.

Anyone with two eyes knows that building 7 was controlled demolition. The forgotten building. There never will be a true investigation by the US gov't because they know where it will lead.

I mean think about it. When the bridge in Minnesota fell we had that video for 6 o'clock news. 90 something cameras saw what happened at the pentagon and they haven't released any of the footage. Not only have they not released it but they went around and took all the tapes from the cameras. As long as Kissinger and Brzezinski are whispering into the presidents ear the corruption will continue.

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[quote=runningman;731101]I can't believe I haven't been a part of this talk about 9/11.
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well you quickly made up for it :)

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[quote=CactusBeats;731092]I didn't think anyone was pissed off until I just noticed that I received this comment

"don't be a dick"

& negative reputation for the following post: [/quote]

It wasnt me. I did add to toastys though.:lol:

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[quote=runningman;731101] Toasty don't be concerned for anyone's sanity but your own. Calling someone a lunatic because they want an investigation into 9/11 is far from crazy. The real question is why is it so bad to not believe your government?? Hell history tells us that government and religion are the two most corrupt organizations.

Anyone with two eyes knows that building 7 was controlled demolition. The forgotten building. There never will be a true investigation by the US gov't because they know where it will lead.
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Let me be crystal clear on this: every post I've made in this discussion has been devoted to the single, very specific question of whether a plane crashed into the Pentagon. I've actually gone out of my way on at least one occasion in this thread to clarify that I would agree that there are a lot of unusual, unexplained things about 9/11 and lest there be any confusion, let me expressly state that the fact that I think that a plane crashed into the Pentagon doesn't mean I have a completely closed mind on other questions about 9/11. Again, no one dislikes Bush, Cheney, et all more than me and while I don't personally believe these other theories, I wouldn't put much past them and am willing to listen.

On this one question, though, I don't think it's a close call. There is a mountain of forensic, eyewitness and circumstantial evidence suggesting that a plane crashed into the Pentagon -- plus, the very plane that is supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon is, in fact, otherwise unaccounted for and the people that were on that plane have not been heard from since, suggesting that they are, in fact, dead. On the flip side, there are a handful of people that think they saw something other than a plane hit the Pentagon and a whole lot of speculation and conjecture. Sorry, no sale.

Is there footage of the plane crashing into the Pentagon that could be released by the government? Maybe. If so, why hasn't it been released? Beats me. Maybe there are security concerns with showing exactly how one flies a plane into the side of the Pentagon. Maybe they don't want to ask the families of the people that died at the Pentagon crash site to relive that moment. I have no idea. Videotape of an event is not, however, a condition precedent to me accepting that something happened, and while I agree that it's unusual, no videotape does not mean that it must have been something other than a plane. That is a massive, and unjustified, IMO, leap of logic.

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[quote=toasty;731117] -- plus, the very plane that is supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon is, in fact, otherwise unaccounted for and the people that were on that plane have not been heard from since, suggesting that they are, in fact, dead. On the flip side, there are a handful of people that think they saw something other than a plane hit the Pentagon and a whole lot of speculation and conjecture. Sorry, no sale.

Videotape of an event is not, however, a condition precedent to me accepting that something happened, and while I agree that it's unusual, no videotape does not mean that it must have been something other than a plane. That is a massive, and unjustified, IMO, leap of logic. [/quote] +1

ah...sanity prevails.

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sanity in an asylum isn't much sanity is it??