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al gore, tree huggers, and global warming bullshit believers

84 durable postsStarted 2008-12-17Latest 2009-01-05
#63676Post 1 of 84

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global warming my ass

Las Fuckin Vegas: 3-6 inches of snow (up to 10 in some areas), worst snow storm since 197fuckin9. Airport is closed, traffic is a mess/

rofl @ global warming

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/dcyfyq.jpg[/IMG]

#1135925Post 2 of 84

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I cant believe it, god damn city is covered in it. How the hell am I going to get to Paradise Cantina in this crap, would have to say even Planet Earth is happy George Bush is gone, it is snowing in Las Vegas.

#1135927Post 3 of 84

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[quote=AntonyM;689420]I cant believe it, god damn city is covered in it. How the hell am I going to get to Paradise Cantina in this crap, would have to say even Planet Earth is happy George Bush is gone, it is snowing in Las Vegas.[/quote]

leave 3 hours early brah

#1135932Post 4 of 84

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sweet... snow in vegas.

fuck, we are still getting butt pounded with huge amounts of rain here in socal... (dont think i can remember it as ongoing as this b4, but it's been non stop pooring for 3 days now)... so i can only image what all these winter storms will transform into -- along the jet stream.

FAO midwest and east coast: stay prepared for some wack winter weather.

#1135962Post 5 of 84

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Global warming means climate change-snow in vegas and loads of rain in socal doesn't exactly sound like business as usual

#1135965Post 6 of 84

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[quote=shosh;689403][IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/ekeq8n.jpg[/IMG]

global warming my ass

Las Fuckin Vegas: 3-6 inches of snow (up to 10 in some areas), worst snow storm since 197fuckin9. Airport is closed, traffic is a mess/

rofl @ global warming

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/dcyfyq.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

guess what, you don't know what you are talking about (a shocker!)...

the distinction is between global macro climate change and local micro climate variations, which are two completely different things. global warming refers to the former, while snow in vegas refers to the later.

you can still have strange cold snaps, and still have an overall warming trend.

do us a favour and actually educate yourself on the subject before you come on here and do a brain dump of whatever happens to be rolling through your head at any given moment. its getting a bit old...

#1135975Post 7 of 84

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^^^ Somehow I don't think that is going to happen! :lol:

He still thinks putting this up stops my word from appearing :lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by didi
[comment censored due to poster originating from australia][/QUOTE]

#1135977Post 8 of 84

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[quote=alexfish333;689460]Global warming means climate change-snow in vegas and loads of rain in socal doesn't exactly sound like business as usual[/quote]

[quote=day_for_night;689463]guess what, you don't know what you are talking about (a shocker!)...

the distinction is between global macro climate change and local micro climate variations, which are two completely different things. global warming refers to the former, while snow in vegas refers to the later.

you can still have strange cold snaps, and still have an overall warming trend.

do us a favour and actually educate yourself on the subject before you come on here and do a brain dump of whatever happens to be rolling through your head at any given moment. its getting a bit old...[/quote]

no fuckin shit sherlocks?

lol @ education. go read some meteorology charts instead of eating gore's shit

show me where the temperatures have actually gone up in the last 10 years?

seems to me like temperatures are getting lower everywhere, not higher... and this has happened many many times through out earth's existence...

like i said: tree huggers and bullshit believers

[quote=DIDI;689473]^^^ Somehow I don't think that is going to happen! :lol:

He still thinks putting this up stops my word from appearing :lol::lol::lol:[/quote]

whats the matter honey? ran out of tampons?

#1135991Post 9 of 84

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[quote=shosh;689475]no fuckin shit sherlocks?

lol @ education. go read some meteorology charts instead of eating gore's shit

show me where the temperatures have actually gone up in the last 10 years?

seems to me like temperatures are getting lower everywhere, not higher... and this has happened many many times through out earth's existence...

like i said: tree huggers and bullshit believers[/quote]

i took 3 years of earth and atmospheric sciences at the undergrad and graduate level. i have a vague idea of what i'm talking about. but i'll be happy to dig up some 'charts' for you. i'll make sure they dont have any big words though, wouldn't want you getting confused.

ps. i've never even seen al gore's movie. wouldn't be anything new...

#1136011Post 10 of 84

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I"ll puts some pics up tommorrow lived here since 94 have never seen anything this extreme, Time to snowboard Mt. Charleston.

#1136018Post 11 of 84

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hahahah- those pics are gold, shosh!

btw, im not even going to go into it, but global warming is just a term. The carbon excess in our atmosphere will cause more than just warming for the northern hemisphere.... it will however cause more extreme weather, like, ahem, we have all been experiencing all over North America in the last 10 years especially. I can't speak for Europe or Asia.... i have even noticed a slight shift in the weather patterns in Toronto, Canada. It's way less consistent and more variable...

#1136031Post 12 of 84

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[quote=day_for_night;689490]i took 3 years of earth and atmospheric sciences at the undergrad and graduate level. i have a vague idea of what i'm talking about. but i'll be happy to dig up some 'charts' for you. i'll make sure they dont have any big words though, wouldn't want you getting confused.

ps. i've never even seen al gore's movie. wouldn't be anything new...[/quote]

so why do the top scientists and meteorologists advocate against global warming and are pissed at how the kyoto treaty was signed? wait you probably know more than them

#1136063Post 13 of 84

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fUCKING tREE hUGGERS!!!!!

#1136132Post 14 of 84

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[quote=shosh;689533]so why do the top scientists and meteorologists advocate against global warming and are pissed at how the kyoto treaty was signed? wait you probably know more than them[/quote]

christ, ok i've tried to avoid insulting you...but you really are dumb as a rock.

when you're losing an argument, do you always just make shit up? try making statements that are verifiable. most "top" meteorologists do believe global warming is occuring. and i am not getting that from some dream i had, i used to be taught by one of them, and he flat out told me this on several occasions. so unless you've got some proof (of which there is none) that most top meteorologists advocate against global warming, lets just say you made that up and move on. ohh, and for the record, there are a small population of the meteorological community who don't believe in global warming, and a few are even heavyweights in the field. there will always be some contrarian opinion to any scientific theory. but you should look at where alot of those scientists get their funding (hint: it ain't greenpeace. if you're thinking Exxon...then you might be closer to the truth. and i say that as someone who works for a big oil company).

now...on to proof. i don't have access to my school's science database at work, but if you've got the time, pull the papers by the guys listed at the bottom of this article:

[quote]A new interpretation for temperature data from satellites, published earlier this year, raised controversy when its authors claimed it eliminated doubt that, on average, the lower atmosphere is getting warmer as fast as the Earth's surface.

Now, in another study headed by the same researcher to be published Dec. 15 in the Journal of Climate, direct temperature data from other scientists has validated the satellite interpretation. A team headed by Qiang Fu, a University of Washington atmospheric sciences associate professor, earlier examined measurements collected from January 1979 through December 2001 by devices called microwave-sounding units on National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellites. Different channels of the microwave-sounding units measure radiation at different frequencies, providing data for different layers of the atmosphere. In the case of the troposphere, the layer from the surface to an altitude of about 7.5 miles, where most weather occurs, it was believed there had been less warming than what was recorded at the surface. However, Fu's team determined the satellite readings of the troposphere were imprecise because about one-fifth of the signal actually came from a higher atmosphere layer called the stratosphere, which for the last few decades has been cooling several times faster than the troposphere has been warming. The group devised a method to remove the stratosphere signal from the satellite data and was left with results that closely matched the warming at the surface. That work was published in May in the journal Nature. However, critics contended the method overcompensated for the cooling effects of the stratosphere and thus overstated the amount of warming in the troposphere. The criticisms did not appear in peer-reviewed journals. In the new study, Fu and Celeste Johanson, a UW atmospheric sciences graduate student, used direct stratosphere temperature measurements to examine the contamination from the stratosphere in the satellite channel that measures troposphere temperatures. They also used the same data to evaluate their method for removing the stratosphere contamination. The data they used came from scientists at NOAA and the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in England. Using the direct stratosphere temperature trend profiles from 1979 through 2001, Fu's team found that the stratosphere contamination in the satellite channel measuring the troposphere amounted to about a minus one-tenth of a degree Celsius per decade. They used their new method to remove the contamination, leaving an influence from the stratosphere of less than one-hundredth of a degree on troposphere temperature trends. The results match closely with what would be expected from the Fu team's new interpretation of satellite data. "These results are consistent with the results that the Nature paper gets," Fu said. "It is an independent check of the problem because we used completely independent data sets. The independent observations agree with our conclusions, and that's quite powerful evidence." The Fu team's work indicates the troposphere has been warming at about two-tenths of a degree Celsius, or nearly one-third of a degree Fahrenheit, per decade. That closely resembles measurements of warming at the surface, something climate models have suggested would result if the warmer surface temperatures are the result of greenhouse gases. The findings are important because, for years, satellite data inconsistent with warming at the surface have fueled the debate about whether climate change is actually occurring. If contamination of troposphere signals by those from the stratosphere isn't taken into account for the last 25 years, Fu said, estimates of how much warming actually occurred in the troposphere during that time would be off by 40 percent to 70 percent. [CENTER]###[/CENTER]

Fu's work is supported in part by the U.S. Department of Energy, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and NOAA. For more information, contact Fu at 206-685-2070 or [EMAIL="qfu@atmos.washington.edu"][COLOR=#2c56ac]qfu@atmos.washington.edu[/COLOR][/EMAIL] Reporters Note: Other experts willing to comment on this research include: James Hansen, chief of NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, 212-678-5500, [EMAIL="James.E.Hansen@nasa.gov"][COLOR=#2c56ac]James.E.Hansen@nasa.gov[/COLOR][/EMAIL] Ben Santer, physicist with the Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, 925-423-3364, [EMAIL="santer1@llnl.gov"][COLOR=#2c56ac]santer1@llnl.gov[/COLOR][/EMAIL] Kevin E. Trenberth, Climate Analysis Section of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, 303-497-1318, [EMAIL="trenbert@ucar.edu"][COLOR=#2c56ac]trenbert@ucar.edu[/COLOR][/EMAIL] John M. (Mike) Wallace, director of the Joint Institute for the Study of the Atmosphere and Ocean at the UW, 206-543- 7390, [EMAIL="wallace@atmos.washington.edu"][COLOR=#2c56ac]wallace@atmos.washington.edu[/COLOR][/EMAIL] [/quote]

#1136136Post 15 of 84

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ohh, and try and get any of Dr. Tim Barnett's papers (of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, California). He had a great one on ocean temps that i'm trying to track down.

hell, if anyone here is at a university and can access these articles without having to pay for them, would you mind posting a few?

#1136179Post 16 of 84

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if the term 'global warming' kicks people, the regular annoying joes that plague this earth, to think twice about the earth and what they do on it, then the term is fucking working whether ya'll want to argue over whether it exists or not.

#1136187Post 17 of 84

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brb reading

#1139167Post 18 of 84

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thnx day_for_night! i just didn't have the patience last night! LOLOL

#1139603Post 19 of 84

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It is unbelievable how aggressive you get Day for Night when you couldn't be more wrong.

[URL]http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1997/11.06/BrighteningSuni.html[/URL]

Global warming and cooling have to do with the sun and sun spots. You really should educate yourself on all the information out there not just Al Gore info.

Also most "top" meteorologist and researchers are getting money from the federal government to "fight" global warming. So they have to say it is man made.

The sun is not a Bunsen burner with a constant flame. It is a nasty fireball with crazy explosions causing solar winds.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH4CA7tHmKI[/youtube]

Now I am not for polluting the earth.

#1139622Post 20 of 84

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please show me where you have the stats that federal gov gives researchers and scientists money to say there is global warming.

also, why would our gov cabinet, george bush et all, pretend its not around for so many years and then change to now say there is global warming. why is our gov confusing us by paying people to say there is, when our president says there isn't. god im so confused!!! and gullible!!!

maybe you should stop reading all the republican white man info site because there is a lot of info out there and you would be just stupid to think all you read is true. if all i read isn't true than surely someone has pulled a quick one past you folks.

#1139663Post 21 of 84

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Nice to see the topic brought back up. It's disappointing that we almost never see constructive dialogue surrounding this issue because it's so politically polarized. IMO the best way to really start discussing is to acknowledge that although we each have personal beliefs about climate change, the complete system of variation triggers and feedback mechanisms is intricate, and still not fully understood.

With that said, I'll try to summarize what I know about a few key relationships. Climate determines what the average weather will be over time. Weather is essentially a series of interconnected systems whose function is to distribute surplus energy from equatorial to polar regions. These include precipitation, air temperature, prevailing wind and oceanic currents, and are affected by a wide variety of conditions including solar luminosity, orbital variations, the earth's reflectivity index (albedo), atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, oceanic salinity, volcanism and plate tectonics, to name a few.

The cycle that most closely corresponds with Earth's alternating ice ages and warming phases is the ongoing fluctuation between circular and elliptical solar orbits. This discovery was credited to Serbian engineer Milutin Milankovic [1879-1958], who correctly calculated that a cycle is completed about once every hundred thousand years. When a greater portion of the Earth is covered in ice, it's albedo (reflectivity, not planetary sex drive) is higher and more sunlight is reflected into space, resulting in an additional cooling effect. This is one simple example of a positive feedback loop.

Sunspot activity goes through alternating periods that vary in length but average 11 years. Even during times of high activity the solar output only increases by about a tenth of one percent. The reason these phenomena are of such interest and concern to astronomers is their association with extraordinary magnetic field conditions that produce solar flares and coronal mass ejections that could be devastating to communications technology and potentially harmful to life on Earth.

Another solar phenomenon that factors into climate change is the Sun's consumption of different nuclear fuel over the course of it's life. As stars move along the main sequence, they eventually fuse all of their hydrogen fuel into more complex atoms. The star then begins to fuse Helium and other heavier elements together in order to continue burning. This effect produces a gradual increase in both temperature and luminosity, so gradual that its impact over the course of human history would be virtually undetectable, but undeniably significant over a long enough timeline.

Whew, I'm going to take a break here even though I haven't gotten to the Earth's climate system yet... will pick up where I left off a lil later.

#1139667Post 22 of 84

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Jesus Chloe. Your claws are sharp when we talk about Obama and the environment eh??

Ok so who is to gain when discussing 'Man Made Global Warming?"

Does Al Gore make money?

How much electricity does Al Gores house use?

You see I don't want to just give you the answers. When someone accuses me of listening to what was it "[I][B]republican white man info site[/B][/I]"(which is a prejudice comment) and repeatedly calls me stupid because I clearly know more then her. I don't want to just give you the answers. Live in your green bubble. Let the government control the AC and heat in your house

With you at the wheel people will feel guilty for taking a shit and flushing the toilet.

#1139690Post 23 of 84

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[QUOTE=runningman;690463]Jesus Chloe. Your claws are sharp when we talk about Obama and the environment eh??

Ok so who is to gain when discussing 'Man Made Global Warming?"

Does Al Gore make money?

How much electricity does Al Gores house use?

You see I don't want to just give you the answers. When someone accuses me of listening to what was it "[I][B]republican white man info site[/B][/I]"(which is a prejudice comment) and repeatedly calls me stupid because I clearly know more then her. I don't want to just give you the answers. Live in your green bubble. Let the government control the AC and heat in your house

With you at the wheel people will feel guilty for taking a shit and flushing the toilet.[/QUOTE]Al Gore is carbon neutral . Do your own research. You know more that Chloe,????? :CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp: Well for starters you would have to take your blinkers off before you get anywhere Chloe's knowledge. :lol:

#1139693Post 24 of 84

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[quote=runningman;690463]Jesus Chloe. Your claws are sharp when we talk about Obama and the environment eh??

Ok so who is to gain when discussing 'Man Made Global Warming?"

Does Al Gore make money?

How much electricity does Al Gores house use?

You see I don't want to just give you the answers. When someone accuses me of listening to what was it "[I][B]republican white man info site[/B][/I]"(which is a prejudice comment) and repeatedly calls me stupid because I clearly know more then her. I don't want to just give you the answers. Live in your green bubble. Let the government control the AC and heat in your house

With you at the wheel people will feel guilty for taking a shit and flushing the toilet.[/quote]

see honeslty you are just the sort of person i try to avoid in daily life. someone who can't delve deeper into any subject other than the rhetoric you were taught by your comrades. its pretty sad really.

i believe in climate change. i believe we have the chance to change it, but people like you who sit around with your teeter totter logic are going to be the ones who make it bad for all of us.

open your mind rather than being so offish. you may learn something.

#1139694Post 25 of 84

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[quote=DIDI;690491]Al Gore is carbon neutral . Do your own research. You know more that Chloe,????? :CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp: Well for starters you would have to take your blinkers off before you get anywhere Chloe's knowledge. :lol:[/quote]

bummerr

#1139735Post 26 of 84

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[QUOTE=chloe harris;690495]bummerr[/QUOTE]

?????

#1139836Post 27 of 84

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thought i'd actually answer this.

[quote=runningman;690463]Jesus Chloe. Your claws are sharp when we talk about Obama and the environment eh??[/quote]

where did i say anything about obama and the environment. it looks to me i am speaking about regular people learning about climate change, and how our government is confusing us by paying scientists to just say there is such thing, while our president george bush says there isn't.

[quote=runningman;690463]Ok so who is to gain when discussing 'Man Made Global Warming?"[/quote]

i think, as you should also, its a combination of humans and how we destroy the planet, which exacerbates the environmental changes that will already be happening. for anyone to think its just the planet or just humans causing the problem, they are wrongly educated. its everything. the issue is that we us humans have the ability to learn, change, stop, and create new methods of power, etc which the planet can not do on its own.

[quote=runningman;690463]Does Al Gore make money?[/quote]

this is a pointless argumentative point which has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

[quote=runningman;690463]How much electricity does Al Gores house use?[/quote]

and again, this is a pointless argumentative point which has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

[quote=runningman;690463]You see I don't want to just give you the answers. When someone accuses me of listening to what was it "[I][B]republican white man info site[/B][/I]"(which is a prejudice comment) and repeatedly calls me stupid because I clearly know more then her. I don't want to just give you the answers. Live in your green bubble. Let the government control the AC and heat in your house

With you at the wheel people will feel guilty for taking a shit and flushing the toilet.[/quote]

you seem to think that i am some hardcore environmentalist who makes people feel guilty for things they don't do, and i guess you must feel guilty because you brought it up. i'm not a hardcore evn. person. i was when i was 16 and vegan. i just want my kids to see polar bears, in the pole.... not at a zoo.

i didn't call you stupid. i can call you blind tbf. its not prejudice to make fun of someone who spouts off republican gargon like its the bible. you do it. you do it most often. it just makes me and probably a lot of other people wonder if you have your own views. some of us, like me, don't have the most popular views but we are here sticking up for them because it just may make someone think differently.

#1139912Post 28 of 84

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^^ Well said and very logical !! :)

#1139928Post 29 of 84

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2 snowstorms in 3 days...roughly 12" total and more in other spots here on the East Coast.

Winter started today too.

#1139939Post 30 of 84

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[quote=runningman;690383]It is unbelievable how aggressive you get Day for Night when you couldn't be more wrong.

[URL]http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1997/11.06/BrighteningSuni.html[/URL]

Global warming and cooling have to do with the sun and sun spots. You really should educate yourself on all the information out there not just Al Gore info.

Also most "top" meteorologist and researchers are getting money from the federal government to "fight" global warming. So they have to say it is man made.

The sun is not a Bunsen burner with a constant flame. It is a nasty fireball with crazy explosions causing solar winds.

[youtube]SH4CA7tHmKI[/youtube]

Now I am not for polluting the earth.[/quote]

umm i'll be aggresive as i please with you, cause frankly...you're borderline retarded. you aren't worth the time and effort it takes to come up with a constructive response, because when someone presents you (or shosh) with a well-thought out argument with some science to back it up you come back with bogus crap like that video, or baseless staments to try and prop up your silly ideas.

having said that, a constructive response...

if you want to list things that affect global warming and cooling...i can list several:

  • continental placement
  • mountain ranges and their placement
  • the earth's overall albedo (a measure of reflectivity)
  • volcanic activity
  • the axial tilt of the earth**
  • the orbit of the earth**

**every bit as important as solar output

to say that solar output have to do with solar output alone is DUMB. end of. there are a myriad of things that affect our climate. the important thing to note here is that the rate of change in the temperatures does not correspond to what we see in the long term trend of temperatures (discounting catastrophic events such as comets smashing into the earth). things are chaning too fast for it to be natural, based upon what we know natural temperature variations to appear like (as measured by things like isotopes of oxygen in rocks, and by core samples in ice).

and that video that you posted is absolute GARBAGE. in it, it says there is no scientific evidence for global warming. umm hello...most of the scientific community world-wide believes its happening, and there is paper after paper documenting various pieces of evidence that all point in the direction of man-made global warming. i posted names of several highly regarded scientists on the 1st page of this thread. go dig up some papers and educate yourself, cause trust me, you are the one who needs it.... i have 'done my research'. i've been educated by people with multiple phd's in this field. can you top that?

#1139983Post 31 of 84

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I think it's an interesting discussion start about global warming when you see Vegas covered in snow.

I'll ask the more educated on here - could the snow in Vegas be a reaction by the planet to global warming or are things improving as more people become more green?

I tend to think of the planet as not some helpless individual that will die if we don't change our habits. The late great George Carlin said and I agree that the planet will be okay, it's the people that will be impacted.

#1140088Post 32 of 84

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Global warming is not caused by man plain and simple. If you believe that then God help you. The sun is what changes our temperature on earth. Man made Global warming is the biggest lie ever told. Now was the Earth warming over the last 7 years "yes." Is it now going to go into a cooling phase "yes" How do I know this?? I did some research into sun spots.

You hippies told us the world was going to freeze in the 70's. What happened???

Believe me Chloe I am not fond of you either. You come one here with your hippie mouth spewing your global warming fear mongering that has taken over the west coast.

Like I said enjoy the government controlling the temperature in your house.

Also I do believe we have to change our ways on polluting the earth but man made global warming is bullshit.

Hey DIDI are you Chloe`s cheerleader or what

#1140118Post 33 of 84

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[QUOTE=runningman;690944]Global warming is not caused by man plain and simple. If you believe that then God help you. The sun is what changes our temperature on earth. Man made Global warming is the biggest lie ever told. Now was the Earth warming over the last 7 years "yes." Is it now going to go into a cooling phase "yes" How do I know this?? [B]I did some research into sun spots[/B].[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

Just this weekend, my brother-in-law announced matter-of-factly that he had performed a study, and had concluded that global warming was bullshit. Of course, he is not a meteorologist, a geologist, or any other XXXX-ogist that would qualify him to perform such a study. Best I can tell, the number 1 thing that qualifies him to render such an opinion is that he is extremely conservative.

Remember back before global warming became a political hot topic (no pun intended)? Back then, the overwhelming majority of the scientific community agreed that global warming was a real phenomenon, and that we were more than likely contributing to it. Then Al Gore becomes the face of global warming, and suddenly a minority group of "scientists" -- with ties to conservative think tanks -- come out of the woodwork with their alternative theories and start banging pots and pans together so people would listen. It's so incredibly counter-productive, because even if you think global warming is bullshit, there are plenty of other reasons to try to live greener, less oil-dependent lives, not the least of which is so we can tell the least stable part of the world to kiss our collective ass.

Oh, and this "it's cold outside, so global warming must be bullshit" thing is just comically embarrassing. I had assumed that it was a joke, but now that I see some of the replies, I'm not so sure.

#1140128Post 34 of 84

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Turns out the joke is really on you toasty

2008 was the coldest year in a decade.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1096105/Coolest-year-decade-How-2008-brought-shiver-Britain.html[/URL]

If we get four years in a row of cooling by 2012-2013ish you same guys on here will be telling me that we are going into an ice age.

You hippie folk kill me:lol::lol:

#1140163Post 35 of 84

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^ | you moronic folk kill me. i guess you're just gonna ignore my post. all that rational thought overloaded you huh?

ohh, and almost NO ONE is a fan of you here. you come on the board spouting crap you made up, with absolutely no basis, and you clearly have no expertise in this field (or any other i can discern). do us all a favour and start annoying people on the GU board. you'd fit in much better there...

#1140171Post 36 of 84

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It would be nice for you if there was a bunch of "yes men" on here right. It would be so much easier wouldn't it DFN. So you are really against freedom aren't you. Everybody should think like you shouldn't they DFN?

Go put some hemp in your hair and do some more shrooms hippie.

To bad I'm here and will be for a long time.

#1140203Post 37 of 84

Re: al gore, tree huggers, and global warming bullshit believers

[quote=runningman;691034]It would be nice for you if there was a bunch of "yes men" on here right. It would be so much easier wouldn't it DFN. So you are really against freedom aren't you. Everybody should think like you shouldn't they DFN?

Go put some hemp in your hair and do some more shrooms hippie.

To bad I'm here and will be for a long time.[/quote]

no i dont think everyone should think like me. infact i love an intelligent discussion on any topic. having someone who has ideas opposed to yours and that can provide a rational, logical, well thought out debate is great...helps you hone in on what you really believe about a particular subject. you seem to think you fit that description...but your arguments boil down to "what i say is right because i said so". you then google up some bs to try and prove your point. its obvious to anyone with half a brain you dont have a clue what you are talking about here...or most of the time.

ohh, and about your last line...not if i have anything to say about it. you're a borderline troll. this board is a privelidge, not a right.

#1140219Post 38 of 84

Re: al gore, tree huggers, and global warming bullshit believers

[QUOTE=runningman;690944]

Hey DIDI are you Chloe`s cheerleader or what[/QUOTE] Yep, and also for Toasty and Day for Night and pretty well anyone who actualy knows what they are talking about!! :lol:

Btw talking about decades or even centuries re global warming / cooling is just totally pointless. You are talking about single years, or seasons even !:lol:

#1140338Post 39 of 84

Re: al gore, tree huggers, and global warming bullshit believers

Troll???

Wow...:lol::lol:

Even you must realize how stupid of a statement that is. I won't continue this ridiculous argument with a ridiculous person.

What do you have to say about it?? Your the one calling people Trolls. Moron Idiot I can take but Troll that is a little to far.

#1140361Post 40 of 84

Re: al gore, tree huggers, and global warming bullshit believers

i lol'd at this one. i really did. i love sarcasm. not sharing the POV, but i lol'd.

i love u all. the last two pages have tears in my eyes from laughter. i think everyone needs to research the opposite opinion of what they hold close. chloe, it aint as bad as you think. runningman, what she says holds water.

but LOL at this thread. very funny.

[quote=runningman;690944]Global warming is not caused by man plain and simple. If you believe that then God help you. The sun is what changes our temperature on earth. Man made Global warming is the biggest lie ever told. Now was the Earth warming over the last 7 years "yes." Is it now going to go into a cooling phase "yes" How do I know this?? I did some research into sun spots.

You hippies told us the world was going to freeze in the 70's. What happened???

Believe me Chloe I am not fond of you either. You come one here with your hippie mouth spewing your global warming fear mongering that has taken over the west coast.

Like I said enjoy the government controlling the temperature in your house.

Also I do believe we have to change our ways on polluting the earth but man made global warming is bullshit.

Hey DIDI are you Chloe`s cheerleader or what[/quote]

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