Re: VP Debate Thread

You just gotta love all the folksy down-home talkin' that she does. "You bethca, I'm a good VP candidate, and gol' darnit, people like me!" [giggle]

Not sure if I read this next point here or not, but someone in Alaska (government I think) said Palin, when asked what color the sky was (hypotheically), could spend like (golly gee!) 45 seconds telling you. And when she was done about half the people would be like, "Isn't that just the greatest thing!!" - in awe of her. In awe of what you might ask? I have no idea. -bless her heart!!

I knew McCain had a history of being exploitive with women, but this is just ridiculous. He is using this woman (primarily for her looks & charisma), and certainly not for any original thought she's ever had. If they are elected, this symbolically could set back women's rights two or three generations. Ms. Palin "would" be elected for sexist reasons obviously, primarily because her [I][B]only assets[/B][/I] are looking and sounding good. Being able to think and reason are no longer prerequisites for the office of President. Partial memorization of 3" x 5" notecards (see the debate) is all that is important.

She almost even makes Bush look intellectually curious. Hey, now that is really saying something. Didn't we just have a President who proved that lack of intelligence is more damaging than actual intelligence when it come to being President. [I] If we won't learn from history, [B]we really are doomed!![/B][/I]

[B][I]KEEP THIS PUCK OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!![/I][/B] :lol:

Re: VP Debate Thread

[quote=CactusBeats;658386]You just gotta love all the folksy down-home talkin' that she does. "You bethca, I'm a good VP candidate, and gol' darnit, people like me!" [giggle]

Not sure if I read this next point here or not, but someone in Alaska (government I think) said Palin, when asked what color the sky was (hypotheically), could spend like (golly gee!) 45 seconds telling you. And when she was done about half the people would be like, "Isn't that just the greatest thing!!" - in awe of her. In awe of what you might ask? I have no idea. -bless her heart!!

I knew McCain had a history of being exploitive with women, but this is just ridiculous. He is using this woman (primarily for her looks & charisma), and certainly not for any original thought she's ever had. If they are elected, this symbolically could set back women's rights two or three generations. Ms. Palin "would" be elected for sexist reasons obviously, primarily because her [I][B]only assets[/B][/I] are looking and sounding good. Being able to think and reason are no longer prerequisites for the office of President. Partial memorization of 3" x 5" notecards (see the debate) is all that is important.

She almost even makes Bush look intellectually curious. Hey, now that is really saying something. Didn't we just have a President who proved that lack of intelligence is more damaging than actual intelligence when it come to being President. [I] If we won't learn from history, [B]we really are doomed!![/B][/I]

[B][I]KEEP THIS PUCK OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!![/I][/B] :lol:[/quote]

Republicans are very smart in getting elected.

They know that a lot of Americans, not necessarily a majority, vote on looks alone. These people dont really care about their views and whatnot, they just want to see someone in office that closely resembles themselves.

Problem is, once they do get elected, at least in recent years, their policies are completely moronic and they are hurting America in the long run.

Democrats, on the other hand, bank on the hope that people will keep an eye on debates and really learn about their candidates. They cater more to the intellectuals that pay somewhat attention to politics.

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[quote=ddr;658406]Republicans are very smart in getting elected.

They know that a lot of Americans, not necessarily a majority, vote on looks alone. These people dont really care about their views and whatnot, they just want to see someone in office that closely resembles themselves.

Problem is, once they do get elected, at least in recent years, their policies are completely moronic and they are hurting America in the long run.

Democrats, on the other hand, bank on the hope that people will keep an eye on debates and really learn about their candidates. They cater more to the intellectuals that pay somewhat attention to politics.[/quote]

you've got to be shitting me... do you think that the core of democrat voters really knows or cares about views and whatnot? you kidding me? they cater more to intellectuals that pay somewhat attention to politics? lol wat?

92% of african americans vote with obama...

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[quote=shosh;658417]you've got to be shitting me... do you think that the core of democrat voters really knows or cares about views and whatnot? you kidding me? they cater more to intellectuals that pay somewhat attention to politics? lol wat?

92% of african americans vote with obama...[/quote]

you think that is solely because obama is black? cmon now...

bush didnt help his party at all when he let new orleans flood for weeks. not 1 black person at the RNC, all of them were middle aged, old white men with funny hats.

it is pretty obvious that republican/conservatives dont give a crap about anyone except their own bank accounts.

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[quote=ddr;658436] not 1 black person at the RNC, all of them were middle aged, old white men with funny hats.[/quote]

HA! Those funny hats are called "Hair Club for Men." If I had a dollar for every hairpiece I saw at that convention I would be a rich man.

[quote=ddr;658436] it is pretty obvious that republican/conservatives dont give a crap about anyone except their own bank accounts.[/quote]

No truer statement has been spoken here. The problem with all those Republican voters who have made money their "higher power," their GOD, their only goddamn issue, is that society as a collective whole has to put up with all the bullshit that comes along with this sole fiscal issue, aka social conservatives, Christian fundamentalists & extremists and their ridiculous attempts to legislate religious beliefs and create a new theocracy.

Sarah Palin, if I wanted to live in a theocracy I would move to Iran, Iraq, or Pakistan - thanks. Perhaps the Sarah Palins and Pat Robertsons of the world need a history lesson on the Puritans and why they sailed across a brutal ocean in order to escape the heavy hand of Mother England. Then again, they have already forgotten the lessons of the Bush administration. But to assume that they forgot these lessons would be presumptuous, as that would presume they had ever learned them in the first place. The luxury of ruling by ideology is that one can virtually ignore reality by dweling in one's own virtual reality. [I][B]IGNORANCE REALLY IS BLISS FOR THESE PEOPLE[/B][/I]

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[quote=ddr;658436]you think that is solely because obama is black? cmon now...

bush didnt help his party at all when he let new orleans flood for weeks. not 1 black person at the RNC, all of them were middle aged, old white men with funny hats.

it is pretty obvious that republican/conservatives dont give a crap about anyone except their own bank accounts.[/quote]

if you think obama or any liberal cares about anyone except their own bank account, you are in for a big surprise.

also, yes they are voting for him solely because he is black.

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[QUOTE=shosh;659005] also, yes they are voting for him solely because he is black.[/QUOTE]

dude, african americans have been the most reliably democratic voting block for years. Are there people that are voting for Obama because he's black? Yes. Are there people voting for McCain rather than voting for the black guy? Yes. Neither of this changes the fact that something like 85% of African Americans would have voted for any reasonable candidate on the Democratic side regardless, just as most white Republicans that vote with the GOP do so for reasons that have nothing to do with race.

[QUOTE=shosh;659005]if you think obama or any liberal cares about anyone except their own bank account, you are in for a big surprise. [/QUOTE]

Contrary to the reputation I probably have on this board, I don't consider myself a liberal, but I'm closer to that than what passes as "conservatism" nowadays, so I guess I'll chime in on this. I care about my own bank account. In fact, I care about it a lot. With that said, though, it would be incredibly short-sighted of me to watch everything else I care about go to hell in a handbasket to save a few bucks at tax time. What you're saying is just factually incorrect.

I guess you are partially correct, though, to the extent that I think voting for Obama is better for my wallet in the long term. I'd rather pay more on a lot than a little on a little, and McCain's policies will not take the economy in the right direction, IMO. A strong economy benefits everyone -- it's not a zero sum game.