Had this thought in the shower: while Palin as a pick would be condescending to all of Clinton's voters right off the bat, it would nonetheless encourage them to at least consider not voting for Obama. the PUMA's are more interested in having a female in office than someone with democrat credentials: their behavior even up to yesterday is indicative of which they value more. ANd, considering Biden is an attack dog, Palin will simply 'muzzle' him at the VP debates. Remember what happened when Clinton ran fo senate a few years ago? She wasn't doing so well until her opponent, some off-the-cuff-guy, really turned her into a victim....

just a thought. i'll probably have this thread deleted once mccain picks...

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not a bad idea to have a cougar as running mate

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The majority of women will not vote for McCain solely on the basis that he chose a woman as a running mate.

One of my first thoughts was the fact that Republicans have one of the oldest men ever to run for this office and then he goes an chooses some "newby" to step in?????? Not smart in my eyes! Especially considering one of the Republicans "big" things is Obama's lack of experience.

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Also, she is presently under investigation in her own state!!!!!!!

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so, I'd hit it

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[quote=Steve Graham;642065]so, I'd hit it[/quote]

We all know your not picky!!!!! EEK! LOL:)

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[quote=88Mariner;642038]Had this thought in the shower: while Palin as a pick would be condescending to all of Clinton's voters right off the bat, it would nonetheless encourage them to at least consider not voting for Obama. the PUMA's are more interested in having a female in office than someone with democrat credentials: their behavior even up to yesterday is indicative of which they value more. ANd, considering Biden is an attack dog, Palin will simply 'muzzle' him at the VP debates. Remember what happened when Clinton ran fo senate a few years ago? She wasn't doing so well until her opponent, some off-the-cuff-guy, really turned her into a victim....

just a thought. i'll probably have this thread deleted once mccain picks...[/quote]

The thing is that "Clinton Women Voters" will not vote for Palin because she is soooooo pro guns and so against women's rights. So the fact that there is a woman on the Republican ticket doesn't count for much!

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This could be the stupidest election I have ever seen. It has nothing about who is the best candidate but rather how many minorities and women you can get on the ticket.. I mean what next the Secretary of State is going to be a latino transvestite??

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[quote=runningman;642089]This could be the stupidest election I have ever seen. It has nothing about who is the best candidate but rather how many minorities and women you can get on the ticket.. I mean what next the Secretary of State is going to be a latino transvestite??[/quote] I TOLD YOU..... idiocracy is already here.

think about the last few

bush vs gore bush vs kerry mccain vs baraka

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I'll give McCain some credit, this is a bold pick. If he's feeling comfortable about his ability to win, no way does he go with Palin -- he goes with Romney, Pawlenty, or someone similarly "safe." He's swinging for the fences here.

Also making a clear play for PUMAs who want a woman in the executive branch above all else. If I were a Hillary supporter, I might find it a little condescending for McCain to think that he could just insert another woman who shares basically zero of my ideology and that I'd get behind that ticket purely on the basis that she's a woman.

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yeah, independently, this is a knock out choice and surprised a lot of people.

few factors to help him a. this party brought the woman, a self made mother of five. b. she brings SOME integrity to the greenies. alaska is home of the most fragile ecosystem in US governance, ad hopefully she doesnt sell it out. she has the oppurtunity to be at the forefront of the voices for global warming, alternative energy and eco-conservation at once. and perhaps she can own the biggest stage as well. even with the oil contract, she can at least voice this opinion at a level never seen before. (god im praying she does) c. she's a shark. d. dont underestimate the power of a woman to convey the pro life message if you are a conservative. e. only 44. f. child has down syndrome. again, an oppurtunity to have a pro-stem cell research debate if she grows a pair realizes that maybe that research her party is blindly denying could possiblly help her son have a better life.

can u imagine hillary clinton's thoughts this morning when she heard this.... hahahahahhahahahah

now this election has a oppurtunity to be groundbreaking, one way or another a woman or a african-american will be in the white house.

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McCain must have Alzheimers!!!!! First choosing a woman and expecting women to vote for him just because is an insult!

Can you imagine if McCain died and this woman was left in charge! Holy shit you think we are in bad shape now! She was on the PTA fifteen years ago.

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[quote=thesightless;642114]yeah, independently, this is a knock out choice and surprised a lot of people.

few factors to help him a. this party brought the woman, a self made mother of five. b. she brings SOME integrity to the greenies. alaska is home of the most fragile ecosystem in US governance, ad hopefully she doesnt sell it out. she has the oppurtunity to be at the forefront of the voices for global warming, alternative energy and eco-conservation at once. and perhaps she can own the biggest stage as well. c. she's a shark.

[B] can u imagine hillary clinton's thoughts this morning when she heard this.... hahahahahhahahahah[/B][/quote]

/owned!!1!!

lOL watching foxnews this morning has been entertaining.

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[quote=thesightless;642114]yeah, independently, this is a knock out choice and surprised a lot of people.

few factors to help him a. this party brought the woman, a self made mother of five. b. she brings SOME integrity to the greenies. alaska is home of the most fragile ecosystem in US governance, ad hopefully she doesnt sell it out. she has the oppurtunity to be at the forefront of the voices for global warming, alternative energy and eco-conservation at once. and perhaps she can own the biggest stage as well. c. she's a shark.

can u imagine hillary clinton's thoughts this morning when she heard this.... hahahahahhahahahah[/quote]

i was surprised to hear palin as the vp, so i guess if mccain wins will have a woman president in 2 years? (no death threat)

also, how many times do you think mccain will tap that ass?

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[quote=thesightless;642114]yeah, independently, this is a knock out choice and surprised a lot of people.

few factors to help him a. this party brought the woman, a self made mother of five. b. she brings SOME integrity to the greenies. alaska is home of the most fragile ecosystem in US governance, ad hopefully she doesnt sell it out. she has the oppurtunity to be at the forefront of the voices for global warming, alternative energy and eco-conservation at once. and perhaps she can own the biggest stage as well. c. she's a shark.

can u imagine hillary clinton's thoughts this morning when she heard this.... hahahahahhahahahah[/quote]

BTW she is a huge supporter of drilling in Alaska.

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[quote=Pensacola Emilie;642121]BTW she is a huge supporter of drilling in Alaska.[/quote]

read again. proponent of natural gas pipeline through alaska. [URL="http://www.alaska.gov"]www.alaska.gov[/URL]

not oil drilling. transportation of a gas.

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[quote=Pensacola Emilie;642117]McCain must have Alzheimers!!!!! First choosing a woman and expecting women to vote for him just because is an insult!

Can you imagine if McCain died and this woman was left in charge! Holy shit you think we are in bad shape now! She was on the PTA fifteen years ago.[/quote]

why would you say this? obama is the same deal, they are only two years apart.

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[QUOTE=thesightless;642122]read again. proponent of natural gas pipeline through alaska. [URL="http://www.alaska.gov"]www.alaska.gov[/URL]

not oil drilling. transportation of a gas.[/QUOTE]

No, she supports drilling for oil in Alaska. Confimed in under 5 seconds using The Google.

[url]http://www.thenextright.com/goprebel/drill-drill-drill-larry-kudlows-interview-with-alaska-governor-sarah-palin[/url]

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[quote=thesightless;642122]read again. proponent of natural gas pipeline through alaska. [URL="http://www.alaska.gov"]www.alaska.gov[/URL]

not oil drilling. transportation of a gas.[/quote]

Actually, CNN just stated that she is FOR drilling. Might be incorrect but that was just stated.

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[quote=thesightless;642123]why would you say this? obama is the same deal, they are only two years apart.[/quote]

No there is a difference. Her experience: PTA, City Council, Mayor(town less than 10k people), then Governor.

HUGE Difference in accomplishments also.

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McCain's pick of Palin was definitely a surprise. My first thought is who is this woman? My second thought is that no matter who wins in November, we will have either our first black president or our first women vp.

Is she qualified for the job though? I had never heard of her, but I'm willing to listen and give her a chance. She is the governor of Alaska and governors seem to translate well to executive federal positions.

I ask the same question of Obama. Is he qualified to lead? I'm not sure either. McCain is definitely ready to lead, but his vision may not be right for the future.

Most importantly, Palin as the Republican nominee shook things up for the Democrats and women voters. Democrats now have to re-think their strategies for the election. And if she is qualified, women will have a tougher decision who to vote for.

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HOLD UP!!! [SIZE=7]HOLD UP!!!!

[SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]she has PTA experience?!!?!!!! hockey mom!?!?! she has my vote!![/FONT][/SIZE] [/SIZE]

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then is doing typical politico style as she was on TV a few weeks ago backing obama's ebergy plan and demanding safety assurances before she would let congress opent the drilling.

god i wish the conventions were attacked. at elast we have the chance nest week. but seeing the roof cave in on the DNC woulda been great.

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[quote=superdave;642130]McCain's pick of Palin was definitely a surprise. My first thought is who is this woman? My second thought is that no matter who wins in November, we will have either our first black president or our first women vp.

Is she qualified for the job though? I had never heard of her, but I'm willing to listen and give her a chance. She is the governor of Alaska and governors seem to translate well to executive federal positions.

I ask the same question of Obama. Is he qualified to lead? I'm not sure either. McCain is definitely ready to lead, but his vision may not be right for the future.

Most importantly, Palin as the Republican nominee shook things up for the Democrats and women voters. Democrats now have to re-think their strategies for the election. And if she is qualified, women will have a tougher decision who to vote for.[/quote]

There are exceptions but again women will in general not vote for a woman just because of gender. Of course there are some white men who will vote for McCain just because he is a white man.

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[quote=superdave;642130]McCain's pick of Palin was definitely a surprise. My first thought is who is this woman? My second thought is that no matter who wins in November, we will have either our first black president or our first women vp.

Is she qualified for the job though? I had never heard of her, but I'm willing to listen and give her a chance. She is the governor of Alaska and governors seem to translate well to executive federal positions.

I ask the same question of Obama. Is he qualified to lead? I'm not sure either. McCain is definitely ready to lead, but his vision may not be right for the future.

Most importantly, Palin as the Republican nominee shook things up for the Democrats and women voters. Democrats now have to re-think their strategies for the election. And if she is qualified, women will have a tougher decision who to vote for.[/quote]

lol, two words... david axelrod.

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[QUOTE=anonin;642131]HOLD UP!!! [SIZE=7]HOLD UP!!!!

[SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]she has PTA experience?!!?!!!! hockey mom!?!?! she has my vote!![/FONT][/SIZE] [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

And CNN just showed her shooting an automatic rifle. And she likes to ride snow mobiles. Let's see Hillary do that.

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[quote=anonin;642131]HOLD UP!!! [SIZE=7]HOLD UP!!!![/SIZE]

[SIZE=7][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]she has PTA experience?!!?!!!! hockey mom!?!?! she has my vote!![/FONT][/SIZE] [/SIZE][/quote]

She has a four month old and is probably still breast feeding. Does that get you hot also!:D

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[QUOTE=Pensacola Emilie;642133]There are exceptions but again women will in general not vote for a woman just because of gender. Of course there are some white men who will vote for McCain just because he is a white man.[/QUOTE]

Somewhat agreed, BUT what if she turns out to be qualified. We're just learning about her now. Let's give her sometime to find out about her.

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[quote=Pensacola Emilie;642133]There are exceptions but again women will in general not vote for a woman just because of gender. Of course there are some white men who will vote for McCain just because he is a white man.[/quote] yup. and considering the secret serveice already have 5 arrests for ppl trying to kill obama........ i dont think he's gonna make it. white men ensure white men hold power. just look at our history....:what

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[QUOTE=Pensacola Emilie;642133]Of course there are some white men who will vote for McCain just because he is a white man.[/QUOTE]

hey shosh, are your ears burning?

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[quote=superdave;642130]McCain's pick of Palin was definitely a surprise. My first thought is who is this woman? My second thought is that no matter who wins in November, we will have either our first black president or our first women vp.

Is she qualified for the job though? I had never heard of her, but I'm willing to listen and give her a chance. She is the governor of Alaska and governors seem to translate well to executive federal positions.

I ask the same question of Obama. Is he qualified to lead? I'm not sure either. McCain is definitely ready to lead, [SIZE=4]but his vision may not be right for the future.[/SIZE]

Most importantly, Palin as the Republican nominee shook things up for the Democrats and women voters. Democrats now have to re-think their strategies for the election. And if she is qualified, women will have a tougher decision who to vote for.[/quote]

[SIZE=4]but it might be right for the present [/SIZE](stolen from daily show or colbert report, forgot which)

[quote=superdave;642135]And CNN just showed her shooting an automatic rifle. And she likes to ride snow mobiles. Let's see Hillary do that.[/quote]

hell yeah...

[quote=Pensacola Emilie;642137]She has a four month old and is probably still breast feeding. Does that get you hot also!:D[/quote]

thats hawt

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[quote=toasty;642142]hey shosh, are your ears burning?[/quote]

no im not voting for mccain cause he's white... im voting for him cause he's not obama lol. of course you can infer whatever you want from that and make it a race issue as obama is making it... if you dont want to vote for obama yous racist

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so toasty. how happy were you last night. i dont like him at all, but one hell of a speech

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Didn't Obama have a speech last night? Does anyone care now? :)

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[QUOTE=shosh;642144]no im not voting for mccain cause he's white... im voting for him cause he's not obama lol. of course you can infer whatever you want from that and make it a race issue as obama is making it... if you dont want to vote for obama yous racist[/QUOTE]

Nah, it's not that, it's your previous comments that suggest, well, never mind...

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[quote=shosh;642144if you dont want to vote for obama yous racist[/quote]

no, you are self motivated, intelligent and probably own your own business or work in the markets, value religion over reality, belong to that hates homosexuality but int he last 2 years has had over a dozen of its members step down because of gay affairs that got them in trouble, is pro life, but not afriad to send its constituency into war,........................................

happy medium people. right wing dont make you smart(look to the south and think), left wing dont make ya stooopid (well, maybe a little).

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[quote=anonin;642131]HOLD UP!!! [SIZE=7]HOLD UP!!!!

[SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]she has PTA experience?!!?!!!! hockey mom!?!?! she has my vote!![/FONT][/SIZE] [/SIZE][/quote]

:lol:

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[quote=superdave;642139]Somewhat agreed, BUT what if she turns out to be qualified. We're just learning about her now. Let's give her sometime to find out about her.[/quote]

You are correct that we do not know all the details of her qualifications. What we do know so far is that she is under investigation in her own state. For trying to get her exbrother-in-law fired during the divorce from her sister. This shows WAY too much emotion. In fact verifies the reasons many do not vote for women. Looking at McCains short list for VP I think this is a dumb move.

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wos Obummer?
we just wanna rally Sarah:Anal:

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and lets not forget that with the rise of russia and china, that PTA experience is going to be so key, and i think i heard something about her brother being the snowmobile champion too??? sold!!