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That about sums it up right there, folks :roll:

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what's your point?

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[quote=Kobe]what's your point?[/quote]

Yet another slogan post to make an entire religion look bad because of two dimwits holding up some cardboard with crap scribled on.

By posting that, you put yourself on the same level as those two morons evangelion :roll:

It's the same as stating the following: here's the proof that all christians are butt ugly inbreds with a terrible taste in fashion :EatMe:

[IMG]http://hulubei.net/tudor/photography/photos/F/a/Fanatic-1000x1500.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=KinKyJ]By posting that, you put yourself on the same level as those two morons evangelion :roll:[/quote] Yeah, because you know I can't wait to slaughter anyone who doesn't agree with me. :Bingo:

[quote=KinKyJ]It's the same as stating the following: here's the proof that all christians are butt ugly inbreds with a terrible taste in fashion :EatMe:[/quote] I'm still yet to see the butt ugly, inbred Christian with terrible fashion sense riots. Let me know when they happen....but it might be awhile..............like never.

Whatever...take it how you will. Speaks for itself in my opinion.

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^^^ You should get out of the house more. Like to the next KKK gig...

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Weak....nice try, though.

Hey...I remember you now. Aren't you that Paul Oakenfold look-alike?? The guy that started a poll about how pretty you are and how you wear makeup and how much you love yourself, and everyone took turns ripping you apart?? Yeah, that was you...KinkyJ.

In that case...opinion = 0.

So how have things been since you embarrased the shit out of yourself?? Noticed I didn't see you around much after that. Can't say I blame you. Well, take it easy. Got any beauty tips for me??

:CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp:

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^^^childish

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[quote=evangelion]Weak....nice try, though.

Hey...I remember you now. Aren't you that Paul Oakenfold look-alike?? The guy that started a poll about how pretty you are and how you wear makeup and how much you love yourself, and everyone took turns ripping you apart?? Yeah, that was you...KinkyJ.

In that case...opinion = 0.

So how have things been since you embarrased the shit out of yourself?? Noticed I didn't see you around much after that. Can't say I blame you. Well, take it easy. Got any beauty tips for me??

:CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp:[/quote] Beauty tips? Nah sorry buddy, I've lobbied a lot with Extreme Makeover, but they keep forwarding my mails to Fear Factory. I'm sorry I can't help you; but I'm sure your inbred homeboys will love you either way.

If you know how I've been doing, just check this out [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24235"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24235[/URL]

And since you're attacking me in a very lame way, I guess you know I'm right on this subject:Anal:

Btw, don't you think it's a shame to react that way on a post when you're close to getting 30? yawn

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[QUOTE=evangelion]Weak....nice try, though.

Hey...I remember you now. Aren't you that Paul Oakenfold look-alike?? The guy that started a poll about how pretty you are and how you wear makeup and how much you love yourself, and everyone took turns ripping you apart?? Yeah, that was you...KinkyJ.

In that case...opinion = 0.

So how have things been since you embarrased the shit out of yourself?? Noticed I didn't see you around much after that. Can't say I blame you. Well, take it easy. Got any beauty tips for me??

:CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp:[/QUOTE]

:CrackUp:

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ah love is blind

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[quote=KinKyJ]Btw, don't you think it's a shame to react that way on a post when you're close to getting 30? yawn[/quote] What?? I was asking how you were doing. That poll incited one of the best flame wars in [ms] history. I'm not much for flame wars, but damn me and you sure went at it. So are you still an "International Man of Mystery??"

[quote=Hos]ah love is blind[/quote] Love of one's self, you mean?? :Naughty:

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[quote=evangelion]What?? I was asking how you were doing. That poll incited one of the best flame wars in [ms] history. I'm not much for flame wars, but damn me and you sure went at it. So are you still an "International Man of Mystery??"[/quote]

Yet one of many [ms] achievments you couldn't claim. Such a pitty when you mean so little in real life that you have to score your points on the internet :roll:

But if you really wanna know, in the mean time I own two companies with a net profit this year of ? 1.501.600, I'm expanding my business to three other countries next financial year, I live in a villa with two bathrooms, four bedrooms and two ling rooms, I still drive my VW Golf, but the order for the Volvo S80 is going to be placed one of these months and I've been having a relationship with a woman who's 8yrs younger than me, has a double D and more brain cells than you even if you would clone yourself three times... But really, I don't feel like a pissing contest buddy...

So how have you been? ;)

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i pity people who get to their late twenties and still think success can be measured by their material possessions.

worse still is that you place a woman on your trophy mantlepiece. i wonder if she is aware of how you view her.

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Whatever you think of the man, his remarks to Evangelion's post were pretty valid IMO. If you look hard enough for that shit, you're bound to find it. And it's all the media are feeding us, even in Europe at the moment. Appeals for a genuine discourse are still scarce and if they're there they don't get any attention at all.

There's enough Muslims around that realize that they have freedoms here that they wouldn't have anywhere else, and appreciate them just as much as we do. Somehow no-one bothers to listen to them right now....

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why do you think muslims are exclusively defined by geography?

islam is a global religion. again you are generalising a religion based on the views of the few, that have been magnified by the agenda-led western media.

and i was responding directly to KinKyJ's post.

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[quote=Hos]i pity people who get to their late twenties and still think success can be measured by their material possessions.

worse still is that you place a woman on your trophy mantlepiece. i wonder if she is aware of how you view her.[/quote] Damn, beat me to it. :evil:

[quote=KinKyJ]So how have you been? ;)[/quote] I've been great, finished school, moved up in the company I was already working for to a network administrator position. It's about $50,000 a year starting. Nowhere near as much as you (allegedly) pull in, but then again I don't base my self worth on how much money I make, what kind of car I drive or what woman is on my arm. Glad to hear all is going well and that your company is (allegedly) prospering.

Good to catch up with you, buddy. ;)

[quote=Yao]Whatever you think of the man, his remarks to Evangelion's post were pretty valid IMO. If you look hard enough for that shit, you're bound to find it. And it's all the media are feeding us, even in Europe at the moment. Appeals for a genuine discourse are still scarce and if they're there they don't get any attention at all.[/quote] Well, we couldn't agree forever now could we, Yao? 8)

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I named the West in that post, but please don't think that I have forgotten about all their brethren outside of Europe. How come I am generalising 'again'? Don't remember that being a trademark of mine, to be honest.

I'd like to know where that pic was taken, it would make a lot things clear...

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@ Hos: My grandfather was a farmer and my dad made his way all on his own. Yhat's why I never accepted a single dime either from him or from the State (eg. unemployment benefits) because I'm too fuckin' proud to take presents. The only reason I mentioned it was our friend evangelion was in for a pissing contest. You reap what you saw.

An evangelion, if you relly wanna know why I haven't been on [MS] for the past year and a half, it's because I've been through two major depressions. Noty because of the flame war, I even thought that was funny...

[quote=evangelion]Damn, beat me to it. :evil:

I've been great, finished school, moved up in the company I was already working for to a network administrator position. It's about $50,000 a year starting. Nowhere near as much as you (allegedly) pull in, but then again I don't base my self worth on how much money I make, what kind of car I drive or what woman is on my arm. Glad to hear all is going well and that your company is (allegedly) prospering.

Good to catch up with you, buddy. ;)[/quote] Glad we're both doing ok, let's just cut with the playground guerilla tactics and act like the educated young adults we are, ok?

And oh, just to get the record straight: the contents of my wallet don't define me at all. But to tell you the truth, the woman on my arm is. The reason's not the way she looks (that's just a bonus), the reason is her personality, maturity and intelligence...

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[quote=KinKyJ]Glad we're both doing ok, let's just cut with the playground guerilla tactics and act like the educated young adults we are, ok?[/quote]

If you say so, I was looking forward to hours of fun for us both, but ah hell....PEACE!!!! 8)

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[quote=evangelion]If you say so, I was looking forward to hours of fun for us both, but ah hell....PEACE!!!! 8)[/quote]

Ah don't worry buddy, if you're a thaiboxer like Yao and me, we can always get together for a real one on one:wanna fi:;)

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[QUOTE=Yao]I named the West in that post, but please don't think that I have forgotten about all their brethren outside of Europe. How come I am generalising 'again'? Don't remember that being a trademark of mine, to be honest.

I'd like to know where that pic was taken, it would make a lot things clear...[/QUOTE]

nice. you editted your post. :roll:

well i'm guessing they are photo's from last months protests in London. has that cleared it up for you?

those people are pathetic. they use slogan's like that to gain a reaction. they are riding on the reputations of a tiny minority. they are mostly all good mummy's boys going of to university to study law or medicine.

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:group hu:

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[quote=Hos]those people are pathetic. they use slogan's like that to gain a reaction. they are riding on the reputations of a tiny minority. they are mostly all good mummy's boys going of to university to study law or medicine.[/quote]

Hear hear! That was the point which I was trying to make (damn, I need a Hos to do that nowadays, troubling, very troubling :lol:)

Unfortunately, it's always the minority of dimwits who fuck up everything for the rest (either side of the fence)

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[QUOTE=Hos]nice. you editted your post. :roll:

well i'm guessing they are photo's from last months protests in London. has that cleared it up for you?

those people are pathetic. they use slogan's like that to gain a reaction. they are riding on the reputations of a tiny minority. they are mostly all good mummy's boys going of to university to study law or medicine.[/QUOTE]

^^like Kinky said...that was exactly what I thought too...are we miscommunicating here?

Oh, and I didn't edit shit???? At least not the post you referred to, unless it was to correct some spelling mistake, which I do pretty often in fact....

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[quote=KinKyJ]Ah don't worry buddy, if you're a thaiboxer like Yao and me, we can always get together for a real one on one:wanna fi:;)[/quote]

Right, let me get my ticket and I'll be on my way. :what

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lol

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lol 2

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[quote=evangelion]Yeah, because you know I can't wait to slaughter anyone who doesn't agree with me. :Bingo:

I'm still yet to see the butt ugly, inbred Christian with terrible fashion sense riots. Let me know when they happen....but it might be awhile..............like never.

.[/quote]

You just did it again, twice.

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Did what?? Enlighten me.

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You're generalizing. Yes, there are radicals, we all pretty much know that by now. When you lump and group of a few hundred million people (in this case Muslims) in with them, you become one yourself. More ignorance is not going to fix this situation.

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Funny, don't remember doing that, but if you say so I must have......right?

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[quote=Kobe]You're generalizing. Yes, there are radicals, we all pretty much know that by now. When you lump and group of a few hundred million people (in this case Muslims) in with them, you become one yourself. More ignorance is not going to fix this situation.[/quote]

more bombs will. stop trying to differentiate between the groups, just bomb em all until ur sure you get the bad ones. after about a week of bombing you'll find out who the innocents are when they hand over the bad ones. like in northern afghan, if we just start bombing random houses, eventually one person will point us to bin laden, hell shoot the kids who have guns, its the same thing, but the schock factor will accelerate the process.

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[quote=thesightless]more bombs will. stop trying to differentiate between the groups, just bomb em all until ur sure you get the bad ones. after about a week of bombing you'll find out who the innocents are when they hand over the bad ones. like in northern afghan, if we just start bombing random houses, eventually one person will point us to bin laden, hell shoot the kids who have guns, its the same thing, but the schock factor will accelerate the process.[/quote]

And if anyone would survive, you can be sure that the depleted uranium from the shells will clean up what's left over... :sarcasm:

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now ur thinking.;)

there is no solution to any of this for anyone but the muslim population itself. [B]THEY [/B]need to realize the world around them changed. [B]THEY[/B] need to either accept it or stay away from it, [B]NOT [/B]ask us to change for them. [B]THEY[/B] are the ones who need to force bin laden, zaquari (spelling i know) , and the lot out in to the open. [B]THEY[/B] are the one who need to accept we have freedoms to insult religion on [B]OUR[/B] lands.[B] THEY[/B] are the ones who need to start showing outrage over the discovery of bodies and the kidnappings and parades where little shit children are paraded around with bombs and guns. [B]THEY [/B]are people who need to unite and offer peace to each other and work with us, not the other way around. we have progressed beyond the confinement of women, banning of homosexuality, capital punishment for being a rape victim.

but until then, i will ignore any person who calls us ""generalizers"" or racist. because right now, as we stand, i have yet to see any reason to beleive the muslim population at large has progressed into a civil body. they have given zero reason to consider them a peaceful, loving soiciety. not one i can see. even here in NY, we have the islamist thinkers society who walk aorund with signs calling for hte death of americans and another 9/11. they even go after thier own people, women who dont wear burkas , men who dress like american people. i dont see groups of muslims yelling at them to shut up. all thier popular figures are violent, rash people. the two muslims who came to prominence for critiquing their religion have had fatwahs issued on their heads. (rushdie and the dutch PM). both now live under police protection.

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I could not have possibly said it better :RockOn:

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[quote=thesightless]more bombs will. stop trying to differentiate between the groups, just bomb em all until ur sure you get the bad ones. after about a week of bombing you'll find out who the innocents are when they hand over the bad ones. like in northern afghan, if we just start bombing random houses, eventually one person will point us to bin laden, hell shoot the kids who have guns, its the same thing, but the schock factor will accelerate the process.[/quote]

now you're thinking...

like a terrorist :|

[I]"who cares if it's the US Govnerment we hate, just attack their citizens and they'll get the point."[/I]

Like I said, more ignroance will not fix this. More moderation, not more extremist kill 'em all fundamentalizim jihad nuke 'em cowboy bullshit.

This type of violence perpetuates itself.

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Egg-fuckin'-zactly.

Sightless and Evangelion: I have no idea what the media are feeding you, but do yourself a favour and find yourself a nice mainstream Muslim forum and sign into it, spend a few weeks there and then rethink those rants.

You just gotta look a little past the goddamn media spin...seriously. Why do you think Europeans don't think like that? Because they're blind? Well....maybe we have a little less biased media over here when it comes to that. It seems to me that Islamic voices don't get through in your media, only scarcely, and with reason. Your government [I]doesn't want you to moderate your opinions[/I], because they need you to support their anti-Middle-Eastern policies. What better way to create a common enemy there?

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[quote=Yao]You just gotta look a little past the goddamn media spin...seriously. Why do you think Europeans don't think like that? Because they're blind? Well....maybe we have a little less biased media over here when it comes to that. It seems to me that Islamic voices don't get through in your media, only scarcely, and with reason. Your government [I]doesn't want you to moderate your opinions[/I], because they need you to support their anti-Middle-Eastern policies. What better way to create a common enemy there?[/quote] I guess Bush's spin doctors have the same favourite movie as Berlusconi: Citizen Kane. "The hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world..."

Why did Clinton get fucked for fucking some dimwit aid? Because the media blew it out of proportions. Why did the American people massively support an illegal war in which they don't believe anymore? Because of the lies and the media circus.

Or (in order to avoid being called a selfrightious Yankie basher) why have the Netherlands been flipping out when it came to their model of a multicultural society? Because of the frenzy in the media after the murder on Pim Fortuyn and Theo Van Gogh. I'm not minimalising that last thing at all, I'm just saying that if the public opinion didn't get so pumped up by the media (and yeah, politicians trying to pull some electoral gain out of the murders), the socialist party hadn't beaten the crap out of the right wing front yesterday at municipal elections... I've heard a girl saying on the news she hoped that agression and the extreme opinions will make place again for a more balanced general perception... I guess that sums it up perfectly...

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if you took the post i made about bombing them seriously then you people need to wikipedia the word sarcasm.

i stand by the second opinion. when i see the royal family of saudi arabia or hamas calling for peace and progression ill change my mind. but while they support and fund and stand behind silently the current situation over there, i still wil wait for it.

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I'm glad to hear you are just kidding, although none of us including the guy who agreed with you could detect that sarcasm. Unless evangelion is going to come in here and say he was kidding too, LOL!

Hey it's not an easy answer, there are hard core wackos on both sides. There is no way to get through to them, and with each passing day/violent action they become even more dead set in their beliefs. Worse yet is that there is a mob mentality which has a way of sweeping up even the level headed people.

Basically we're going to hell in a handbasket unless we can all cool it and figure out how to push the extremists back into holes they crawled out of.