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[IMG]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Images/DoubleStandard.jpg[/IMG]

my favorite part of that site is how islam will defeat america. so simple, so real and so likely to happen its scary.

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I remember the poster on Nelsons wall that said "nuke the arabs and take theyre oil"

For some reason i think we should pay a little more attention to the hidden message there ;)

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[quote=Yao][IMG]http://www.imgshost.com/uploads/ae4876e18d.jpg[/IMG]

Maybe I'll post them on my blog as well, see what happens :Middlefi:[/quote] [SIZE=5]HOW DAAAAAARE YOU POST PICTURES OF OUR MURDEROUS AND VIOLENCE TEACHING PROPHET ON THE INTERNET!?!?!?!?! THAT'S IT, YAO...YOU'RE DEAD!!!! HOPE YOU ENJOY THE LAST FEW AGONIZING MOMENTS OF YOUR LIFE!!!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[/SIZE][SIZE=5] [SIZE=1]By the way, we Muslims are not an angry, violent people...we just don't like the pictures. Yeah.....that's it.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]

:roll:

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[quote=Yao]Muslim: "The Jews are the cause of all our misery!!" Me: - "Sure, and they killed all the dinosaurs as well, right?"[/quote]

Yep, sounds like a classic case of "We are too lazy and stupid to solve our own problems, so we'll just do what every other civilization througout human history has done and blame the Jews. Hitler was right................right???"

:lickmyha:

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[quote=evangelion][SIZE=3]HOW DAAAAAARE YOU POST PICTURES OF OUR MURDEROUS AND VIOLENCE TEACHING PROPHET ON THE INTERNET!?!?!?!?! THAT'S IT, YAO...YOU'RE DEAD!!!! HOPE YOU ENJOY THE LAST FEW AGONIZING MOMENTS OF YOUR LIFE!!!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [SIZE=1]By the way, we Muslims are not an angry, violent people...we just don't like the pictures. Yeah.....that's it.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]

:roll:

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Yep, sounds like a classic case of "We are too lazy and stupid to solve our own problems, so we'll just do what every other civilization througout human history has done and blame the Jews. Hitler was right................right???"

:lickmyha:[/quote]

[COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="7"]How dare you blame a poor dutch man for something which is clearly the fault of the zionist entity.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

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Yeah, sorry....my fault. It's all the Zionist's fault. :lol:

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[quote=davetlv]:CrackUp: Dude, i'm an Israeli, the Fatwah has been placed on my head many many years ago. . . . .[/quote]

you beat me to it...haha

the one about the virgins is priceless..rock on

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[quote=davetlv]BTW what the fuck are guidos.?[/quote]

consider yourself lucky in Israel that you probably don't have to deal with these guys. guidos are males with most, sometimes all of the following:

-fake tan -over-gelled spiky hair, usually very short on the sides becoming a high fade that makes them look like they stuck their finger in a socket -typically from 'jersey -usually italian or partially italian decent, but not necessarily. have seen guidos of all races (even black!) -hang out in clubs/ruin the club experience -muscle heads...like to dance with muscles flexed to try to show off -usually shorter -travel in packs -stupid and belligerent...like to start fights -tight expensive (or pseudo-expensive) clothes, usually what you could find at macy's, but also diesel, armani, etc. -gold chains -sexually predatory, but probably latently homosexual -mean expression trying to look cool

i think by now you get the picture and know what i'm talking about

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[quote=evangelion]Yeah, sorry....my fault. It's all the Zionist's fault. :lol:[/quote]

Finally, you get it :lol: :lol: :lol:

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[quote=sammwalk]consider yourself lucky in Israel that you probably don't have to deal with these guys. guidos are males with most, sometimes all of the following:

-fake tan -over-gelled spiky hair, usually very short on the sides becoming a high fade that makes them look like they stuck their finger in a socket -typically from 'jersey -usually italian or partially italian decent, but not necessarily. have seen guidos of all races (even black!) -hang out in clubs/ruin the club experience -muscle heads...like to dance with muscles flexed to try to show off -usually shorter -travel in packs -stupid and belligerent...like to start fights -tight expensive (or pseudo-expensive) clothes, usually what you could find at macy's, but also diesel, armani, etc. -gold chains -sexually predatory, but probably latently homosexual -mean expression trying to look cool

i think by now you get the picture and know what i'm talking about[/quote]

Like the Gotti brats? (we get crap US TV here too!)

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[QUOTE=sammwalk]consider yourself lucky in Israel that you probably don't have to deal with these guys. guidos are males with most, sometimes all of the following:

-fake tan -over-gelled spiky hair, usually very short on the sides becoming a high fade that makes them look like they stuck their finger in a socket -typically from 'jersey -usually italian or partially italian decent, but not necessarily. have seen guidos of all races (even black!) -hang out in clubs/ruin the club experience -muscle heads...like to dance with muscles flexed to try to show off -usually shorter -travel in packs -stupid and belligerent...like to start fights -tight expensive (or pseudo-expensive) clothes, usually what you could find at macy's, but also diesel, armani, etc. -gold chains -sexually predatory, but probably latently homosexual -mean expression trying to look cool

i think by now you get the picture and know what i'm talking about[/QUOTE]

this post from last month sums it up nicely:

[url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22091[/url]

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[quote=davetlv]You know what, i'm sick of this shit.

Tell me if you can what is offensive about these images?

What is so offensive about them that it has led to riots and deaths?

What is so offensive about them that embassies have been burnt down - even embassies of countries that have not published the image?

I look forward to you response.

And in case you havent seen all tweleve in their glory. . .

[CENTER][URL="http://www.imgshost.com"][IMG]http://www.imgshost.com/uploads/068a3e7ae5.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] [/quote]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Personally, nothing. Therefore I can't offer you an exact answer to your unreasonable questions.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]All I can do is offer an opinion/view/understanding of some sort and express them in forums such as this one, both peacefully and civili.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If your question is why some Muslims may find the images offensive then I'll have this to offer. [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]From what I have read and the discussions I've had, it seems Islam prohibits depictions of the Prophet let alone an image which contains a bomb in his turban. Many Muslims see this image as mocking their Prophet and their beliefs. To this you can add the anti Muslim/Arab bashing in the media together with the current and future events in the Middle East and there you have it.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]A reason/view/ opinion, not justification[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[quote=sammwalk]consider yourself lucky in Israel that you probably don't have to deal with these guys. guidos are males with most, sometimes all of the following:

-fake tan -over-gelled spiky hair, usually very short on the sides becoming a high fade that makes them look like they stuck their finger in a socket -typically from 'jersey -usually italian or partially italian decent, but not necessarily. have seen guidos of all races (even black!) -hang out in clubs/ruin the club experience -muscle heads...like to dance with muscles flexed to try to show off -usually shorter -travel in packs -stupid and belligerent...like to start fights -tight expensive (or pseudo-expensive) clothes, usually what you could find at macy's, but also diesel, armani, etc. -gold chains -sexually predatory, but probably latently homosexual -mean expression trying to look cool

i think by now you get the picture and know what i'm talking about[/quote]

They're everywhere. In Australia we have most of them in Melbourne. They are exactly as you've decribed above, except we call them Muzza.

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you fuckers have it light,. my county is what created those ppl. nassas county, home of the kids who wish they were rich city folk, and try to hard. the gotti's live 5 minutes from me.

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[quote=dig72][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Personally, nothing. Therefore I can't offer you an exact answer to your unreasonable questions.[/FONT][/SIZE][/quote] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Unreasonable questions?? Why do Muslims see it as OK to riot, kill and destroy because of a cartoon?? Seems pretty reasonable to me.

But then again, they've always seen it as OK to kill in the name of their relgion, so it really isn't that far off, now is it[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[quote=dig72]They're everywhere. In Australia we have most of them in Melbourne. They are exactly as you've decribed above, except we call them Muzza.[/quote]

you mean there's no escape?? :(

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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][QUOTE]Why do Muslims see it as OK to riot, kill and destroy because of a cartoon??[/QUOTE] [/SIZE][/FONT]

That wasn't the question.

I found the questions unreasonable because they were directed at me. I am personally not offended by the images/cartoons, so I can't give the exact answer/reason as to why the 'rioters' found them so offensive. You'd have to ask them, the rioters/Muslims that is.

Do you understand this?

I offered an opinion/reason/view, thats all and if they happen to differ from yours then so be it.

That's what discussions are about.

If you think the questions are reasonable then I'll ask the same questions to you and look foward to your response.

Tell me if you can what is offensive about these images?

What is so offensive about them that it has led to riots and deaths?

What is so offensive about them that embassies have been burnt down - even embassies of countries that have not published the image?

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[quote=sammwalk]you mean there's no escape?? :([/quote]

That's right.:Down:

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[quote=dig72][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Personally, nothing. Therefore I can't offer you an exact answer to your unreasonable questions.[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]All I can do is offer an opinion/view/understanding of some sort and express them in forums such as this one, both peacefully and civili.[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If your question is why some Muslims may find the images offensive then I'll have this to offer. [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]From what I have read and the discussions I've had, it seems Islam prohibits depictions of the Prophet let alone an image which contains a bomb in his turban. Many Muslims see this image as mocking their Prophet and their beliefs. To this you can add the anti Muslim/Arab bashing in the media together with the current and future events in the Middle East and there you have it.[/FONT][/SIZE]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]A reason/view/ opinion, not justification[/SIZE][/FONT][/quote]

I'm sorry if you think that to question the actions of rioters and murders to be unreasonable. Should we all sit back and allow this sort of behaviour in our countries?

That said, on the whole, these pictures look like nothing more than a man with an olive complextion (?) and a beard; one even looks like a bad paradoy of Bill Gates (or maybe just to me). Does this mean that we can no longer draw pictures of men with dark skin and a beard in case it offends members of the religion of peace?

And as for the picture of the so called Mohamed and a bomb in his turbun, this image was republished in an Egyptian daily (with some others) - notice the date of 17th October 2005

[url=http://www.imgshost.com][img]http://www.imgshost.com/uploads/d565288540.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://www.imgshost.com][img]http://www.imgshost.com/uploads/155902a7e3.jpg[/img][/url]

And not once was an egyptian embassy burnt.

Double standard no? Muslims can print images of the prohpet with impunity, but when the west does it, riots, firebombs and deaths (with apparently stand at 17 people of this now)

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Wow...what a bunch of hypocrits. Goes to show...it doesn't matter [I]if[/I] the cartons are published....but [I]who[/I] publishes them. :roll:

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muslims as a public figure are fucked up. they put the neo con christian to shame.

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lol

time for the neo-con christians to strike back man, they're losing face here!! :CrackUp:

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[quote=thesightless]runningman, here in NY, on 9/11 they literally were gathering in the streets and celebrating like they knew it was gonna happen.....[/quote] i dont get it so all the muslims in new york wer sent a memo letting them know that this attack was directed towards the..........neoliberal christian based white supremist fanatical muslim haters..hmmm...yes why not....no muslims died in the bulidings..hmm....and they knew it was osama and his muslim crew that day...hmm...before the fbi found the passports in the burning wreckage and papers they 'left' behind in arabic implicationg them....hmm yes of course...i think i recall that too...rejoice it was...a portion of the city was celebrating...in the streets...fukme..thats incredible... and for some very plausible reason the falling of a building and lost civilian life somehow represented the symbolic victory of the muslims against the tyrannical oppression they feel they have faced for centuries which spurred them to hit the streets parading on the same day..yeah makes sense...wow...thats smart guy..putting two and two together like that..daim ...thats some grey matter you got there buddy...dont get all sensitive maybe im wrong clarify if you will....

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sorry seems i went a bit off topic i read one on the previous page i guess...but if you wanna get techinal with the whole olive complection who says its mohammed? thing..come on please lets not kid oursleves it was supposed to represent mohammed and mohammed merely represents muslims right...now if it was osama...it represents osama...and osamas crew which are considered fanatical...thats a comparatively limited group...and the egyptian newspaper did not take the initiative and 'publish' as in create them..they simply re published them...to let the people know what it is...personally i think if they let it happen all around the world and just let them be published people wouldnt give that much of a shit they suck as cartoon satire pieces any good cartoonist/columist would agree...but then i guess it would allow for all to in the future..i dunno im just as devestated by the muslim response as my friends here..maybe not as malicious in my judgment but upset that so many have just hurt themselves and their countries in the process of trying to object or appeal..

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[quote=malayday]i dont get it so all the muslims in new york wer sent a memo letting them know that this attack was directed towards the..........neoliberal christian based white supremist fanatical muslim haters..hmmm...yes why not....no muslims died in the bulidings..hmm....and they knew it was osama and his muslim crew that day...hmm...before the fbi found the passports in the burning wreckage and papers they 'left' behind in arabic implicationg them....hmm yes of course...i think i recall that too...rejoice it was...a portion of the city was celebrating...in the streets...fukme..thats incredible... and for some very plausible reason the falling of a building and lost civilian life somehow represented the symbolic victory of the muslims against the tyrannical oppression they feel they have faced for centuries which spurred them to hit the streets parading on the same day..yeah makes sense...wow...thats smart guy..putting two and two together like that..daim ...thats some grey matter you got there buddy...dont get all sensitive maybe im wrong clarify if you will....[/quote] Do you actually expect someone to give you a valid response to this pile of smartass-ism?? :roll:

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yeah it as a claim made by someone on a previous page...ofcourse i want an answer..it sarcastic because when i read it i couldnt believe that no one asked these questions...you just let a statement run like that...without any substantial anything..so yeah i want the person who wrote it to tell me..i quoted the dood who wrote it..

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[quote=malayday]and the egyptian newspaper did not take the initiative and 'publish' as in create them..they simply re published them...to let the people know what it is...[/quote] :CrackUp: :CrackUp: :CrackUp:

Your arguement would have some validity if attacks had only happened against Danish property.

Other countries interests were attacked for, as you say, re publishing, the cartoons.

So my question is this; How comes they were attacked and Egypt not? Is it ok for Muslim to publish such material but non muslims can't?

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[url]http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm12.php[/url]

go post this link on a muslim board and see what they think.....

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They'll only laugh with the only thing I found funny in this video: "Jesus: too much contact with lepres to come near my love pump."

As for the rest, only two adjectives come to mind: lame & ignorant.

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[quote=davetlv]:CrackUp: :CrackUp: :CrackUp:

So my question is this; How comes they were attacked and Egypt not? Is it ok for Muslim to publish such material but non muslims can't?[/quote]

well think about it...if i (who is not of african descent) called a black man who i donot know.. a nigger would it be the same....(please excuse if i offend that is not my intention at all) if a black man called another black man who he didnot know a nigger .... dont take it literally think about the way it appllies...if im a jew and i crack a jewish joke or i ridicule a jewish belief or compromise a jewish valuei think its alright because i know what it is to be a jew....do you get where im going...

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fucking heebs.

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[quote=malayday]well think about it...if i (who is not of african descent) called a black man who i donot know.. a nigger would it be the same....(please excuse if i offend that is not my intention at all) if a black man called another black man who he didnot know a nigger .... dont take it literally think about the way it appllies...if im a jew and i crack a jewish joke or i ridicule a jewish belief or compromise a jewish valuei think its alright because i know what it is to be a jew....do you get where im going...[/quote]

You miss the fundamental point. If it is against Islam to show images of the Muhamed, why is it ok for an Egyptian paper to reprint the cartoons and not anyone else.

This isn't about a joke, this is meant to be a basic instruction in Islam. . . . not quite the same as what you have tried to show.

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fucking towel heads.

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fucking what do ppl call us catholics? cross chests? yao can edit it in, i dont know

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malayday you talk like you are affraid of people.. these people want to KILL YOU!! Wake up you moron..

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[quote=geoffgulley][URL="http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm12.php"]http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm12.php[/URL]

go post this link on a muslim board and see what they think.....[/quote]

Who would have thought that a purple dinosuar could speak THE TRUTH.

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[quote=evangelion]Who would have thought that a purple dinosuar could speak THE TRUTH.[/quote] Who would've thought you would believe a pink dinosaur... What pills are you on?

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why not young america believes a purple dinosaur..:lol:

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relax mr runningman....the only thing im afraid of is misconception and more divisions amongst us, and it seems to be perpetuated by spitefull opinions and comments many of which have no real grounds legitimized by more of the same...there doesnt seem to be any voice of reason..everything just 'is'....theres this thing called e-prime look it up i encourage everyone to...its a very effective and useful tool of language that could change your perspective and perception of a lot of things....im no moron im sorry that its all that you can gather from all the shit iv been saying...which only illustrates what i was afraid of...

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[quote=davetlv]You miss the fundamental point. If it is against Islam to show images of the Muhamed, why is it ok for an Egyptian paper to reprint the cartoons and not anyone else.

This isn't about a joke, this is meant to be a basic instruction in Islam. . . . not quite the same as what you have tried to show.[/quote]

look you will find books on 'islam' which are circulated in the schools of kids and that books you and i are able to get...these books may have descriptions of Muhammed i have read a few, they vary, and there is no real legitimate consensual image of the holy prophet of islam...there isnt ..there are supposed to be paintings which show him in his supposed form....and the koran (holy book) came before muhammed died, so it isnot written in verse that it is not allowed to show him...it is because of many traditions and disagreement which arose later that it was decided that the holy prophet will not have a visual symbolic image, his name is everywhere in muslim societies but not once will you see an image of his...even the famous movie i think called 'the message' with anthony quinn was about him and his life and not once was his face portrayed or his voice heard, even though he was an active character in the movie.... the reason why the egyptian paper re published them could be to incite...could be to diffuse as well...maybe there was a hope that if everyone saw the pictures they would think twice before getting angry and i dont think they did...maybe im wrong but i dont recall any crazy violent protests in egypt and why no one else printed them...that would be obvious i suppose after the way some muslims reacted because i think it was soon after they were originally published that the paper reprinted)...non the less it stems back to the books and how they had descriptions of the prophet, these books were written by muslims it makes a difference no matter what you say about fundamental facts..people are biased thats thier nature..thats human nature....its not like it would have been ok if a muslim did it at all...he would cop a hunk of shit for it maybe even killed you know what happed to salman rushdi after he published 'satanic verses'...but the reaction wouldnt have been as extreme (must take into account{when talking about this extreme} the way muslims have been marginalised since 9/11 because i dont think it would have been this intense even even danish papers published it well before that day..)

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Can anyone or any paper post such cartoons regarding the holocaust?

ansewer this question then come and talk to me about freedom of speech and media