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Check out this opinion (subject edited)

99 durable postsStarted 2006-01-04Latest 2006-02-08
#22323Post 1 of 99

[quote=sono]I think people should be debating whether to put homosexuals in mental clinics. Same sex sexual orientation is a disease.

Now....people on this message board are obviously will come out with comments such as "oooh, a gay in denial and my favourite.....you are so last century"....in which they prove that its a fashion trend.

Before you lot call me a homophobic, go read some science journals, there's study after study in which they prove that homosexuality is unnatural and defies logic.

Still not convinced? let me give you some stats.....if you exclude african immigrants in the west then 85% of sexually transmitted diseases are from gays.

Anyway, i posted my message, you can have a go now....[/quote] :roll:

#536987Post 2 of 99

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some people say that douching is not natural. :youdork:

#537107Post 3 of 99

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ahhh, let him be, people can hate whomever they want. although i dont think the grand dragon of the KKK is a valid science source. free speach is the last bastion of free thought. we dont have to agree with him. and no need for names. people dont realize he probably thinks WE are stupid and idiotic because we are OK with/part of the homosexual cultures.

#537108Post 4 of 99

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kinda this like stupid shit.

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/index.html[/URL]

#537593Post 5 of 99

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[quote=thesightless]kinda this like stupid shit.

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/index.html[/URL][/quote]

omg, that's ridiculous.

#537773Post 6 of 99

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That made me laugh out loud today when i read it in the paper, haha!

About homosexuals: like em or not, but if i catch someone picking on or attacking someone because he/she is gay while i'm around, that person is in deep shit, plain and simple. Respect for all human beings is a first in my book, and my fist of justice will make things right.

And it's okay to be gay!

:wanna fi:

#541711Post 7 of 99

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Who Cares?

#541787Post 8 of 99

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Where is Sono now? C'mon...bring it on! I got Miketpoto you know...:twisted:

#541801Post 9 of 99

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[quote=Yao]Where is Sono now? C'mon...bring it on! I got Miketpoto you know...:twisted:[/quote]

Great, now i've been dumped for some yank. . . . you are so cruel Yao :evil: :evil: :evil:

#541808Post 10 of 99

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You are my secret weapon. Don't spoil the surprise :D

Btw....get online a bit more often bro, haven't spoken to you in a while!

#541830Post 11 of 99

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yao, im coming over there and before we get stoned we are gonna fight. boxing or martial?

#541838Post 12 of 99

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martial definitely.

protection or not?

I'll arrange for some good pot with my mate btw...

#541853Post 13 of 99

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we fought with only groin protection and 2 pound gloves. no head or foot gear at my studio.

#541862Post 14 of 99

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lol, i'll be golden then, since my pencak silat training was without any protection at all :p

Floor techniques too IMO. Let's make it pride-like...

bring it on biatch! :wanna fi:

#541893Post 15 of 99

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:twisted:Oh Yeh

#542777Post 16 of 99

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Aristotle was gay. Had they put him in a mental clinic we wouldn't even be discussing this on the internet.

#545906Post 17 of 99

My opinion.

I think homosexuality is a serious disease. Mental or psychological one of course. Mentally sick people would always reply that they are not sick. So those wrong oriented people need help. First they should leave all in one place. On some island or so. And they need to go through deep healing process. After all, it is obvious; the best practise for an ass hole is to let shit out. ;) Entire universe would agree with me on that.:lol:

#549698Post 18 of 99

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^^you cannot be serious.

#549713Post 19 of 99

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some people do think that way yao. eh............

let em think.

#549848Post 20 of 99

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Yeah....

Come to think of it: the only way we were ever told the homosexuality is bad is thru religious books and opinions...nature has already proven that it happens among animals as well. Funny heh? What would people think about it if it had never been mentioned in any of the religious books....

#550107Post 21 of 99

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[quote=az0000000]it is obvious; the best practise for an ass hole is to let shit out. ;)[/quote]

[quote=thesightless]some people do think that way yao. eh............

let em think.[/quote]

Ok, what is wrong with my sentence? I think any [B][COLOR=lime]real man[/COLOR][/B] would agree with my assertion 8) :lol:

#550109Post 22 of 99

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Dude, if you english was a little bit better I'd know if you were making a joke or were being serious....I'm pretty sure though that i'm as much of a man as I can be :D

#550150Post 23 of 99

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[quote=Yao]Dude, if you english was a little bit better I'd know if you were making a joke or were being serious....I'm pretty sure though that i'm as much of a man as I can be :D[/quote]

[i have fixed my spelling errors for you to understand my idea, sorry, my mistake :oops: ]

I mean what is say. By the way, I really think that a homosexual isn?t real man, in his mind; he is a half man half woman. And that is what I consider ill. An illness should be healed.

#550178Post 24 of 99

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I do not in any way consider it an illness, it happens among animals too: to me that is the best proof that it's something natural. But, reseach does in fact support your claim that you don't think they're entirely men: homosexuals themselves usually see themselves somewhere in between (not all of them, but many). They seem to have an ambigue attitude towards their manhood.

BTW: I'm straight. I'm so straight that i fucking need to get laid soon too :D

#550183Post 25 of 99

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[quote=Yao]I'm straight. I'm so straight that i fucking need to get laid soon too :D[/quote] :lol:

#552698Post 26 of 99

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If you see it in natural way, there shouldnt be any gays or lesbians, cause it doesnt fit. But i wouldn?t call it disease either. It?s a human thang, and humans are doing a lot of irrational things. Clearly spoken: The ass is not concipated to stick something in it, there should come out something, so gays are acting against nature(not too good in my opinion). I don?t think that it?s only a fashion appearance cause there were gays even in the roman empire. I do not disrespect gays, but i don?t think that it?s too good to act against the nature.

#552746Post 27 of 99

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Well, how come there has been homosexuality recorded among numerous species of animals? Might wanna rethink what you just said mate ;)

#552759Post 28 of 99

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[quote=Scarface]I do not disrespect gays, but i don?t think that it?s too good to act against the nature.[/quote] Sounds quite fair... :what I am so harsh simply because I kind of feel that gays are a shame for the rest of masculine side in front of feminine side.

#552760Post 29 of 99

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[quote=Yao]Well, how come there has been homosexuality recorded among numerous species of animals? Might wanna rethink what you just said mate ;)[/quote] So, seems like you think of your self as just a continuation of animal world, kind of a higher state animal, right? :what It is up to you mate, but my self, I will never think of me as another animal specie. ;) I am human and thus totally higher than any animal species. So, some weird biological events in animal world is not a justification for a human to go fuk with representative of same sex. :x Besides, animals as beings inferior to humans usually reflect human?s behaviour; nature is totally under human?s influence, it is influenced by human?s wrong behaviour as well. Have you ever seen to gays during fuing process? Shit! It looks so disgusting? :evil:

#552761Post 30 of 99

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[quote=Yao]Well, how come there has been homosexuality recorded among numerous species of animals? Might wanna rethink what you just said mate ;)[/quote]

Well that?s true, but that is the minority, and gays are also minority. man and woman=logic, man and man= not logic, so how do you want to explain it rationally??:Suck:

#552790Post 31 of 99

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It has been explained as a means of nature to avoid overpupolation, or deal with that problem. Homosexuality = no kids.

@Az: dog poo stinks, so does mine. And my pee too. Ants commit mass murder, so do we. If humans destroy too much of nature, or alter it, it turns against them and then we're in deep shit. Erosion does not just endanger nature, but us too. Killing the rainforests will kill us too.

We are dependent on nature, not the other way around. This planet would do much much better without us.

#552845Post 32 of 99

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[quote=Yao]It has been explained as a means of nature to avoid overpupolation, or deal with that problem. Homosexuality = no kids.

@Az: dog poo stinks, so does mine. And my pee too. Ants commit mass murder, so do we. If humans destroy too much of nature, or alter it, it turns against them and then we're in deep shit. Erosion does not just endanger nature, but us too. Killing the rainforests will kill us too.

We are dependent on nature, not the other way around. This planet would do much much better without us.[/quote]

That?s true, but this has nothing to do with homosexuality. people?s sexuality has nothing to do with the fact that mankind will kill themselves sooner or later. That?s not a rational explanation. If nature would bring up homosexuality to stop human growth, why are gays and lesbians in the minority?? China, india and africa are growing so rapidly, there is no decrease of human beings in the future seen, so homosexualty can?t be a naturally given thang.

#552950Post 33 of 99

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i thought i might ignore the lot of you because obviously intelligence is difficult to come by on this board, but I thought I'd reply and maybe something will click in your empty heads.

Scientific viewpoint:

Mutant is a biological term (not something that you have so ignorantly picked up from popular fiction) that denotes a genetic abnormality, a difference from the norm (the majority of the population) expressed in (not always but mostly) a phenotypic form that is advantageous or disadvantageous to the individual in terms of survival and also this particular genotypic/phenotypic expression having a higher statistical probability of being found in future generations of a given population via reproduction.

Now this is [B][I]not[/I][/B] the case with homosexuality because it is not an advantageous charecteristic as it cannot be passed on to future generations as homosexuals do not reproduce in the biological sense of the term. Hence homosexuality is not from something found in genes and the most obvious example of this is identical twins were one is heterosexual and the other homosexual which betrays to us that homosexuality cannot be genetic since both have identical genes.

Even assuming a "gay" gene, do we not all have choice? Some Drs believe alcoholism is an inherited gene. Does that make it ok for me to be a drunkard.

Putting your lifemaking organ into a deficating, human waste orafice, sounds absurd but hey, your minds don't work in logic do they.

This whole gene thing is suspect. Next out, they going to tell us there is a gene for paedophiles. Ah, its ok, cause its not their fault, its their genetics. Here, here, its ok, won't you watch my kid this weekend.

I don't think so.

Political:

Today the sovereignty belongs to the people and it is them who determine what is acceptable or not; hence, the goalposts continually change to suit their demands. As time goes on, societies are tailored to the needs of the people and thus become more accepting to certain ideas and practices. These societies do not have a fixed criterion for determining right or wrong and this is why in reality there is no such thing as ‘illegal’ or ‘wrong’; rather, there are temporary wrongs that, given time, will become accepted by the masses. This is why we find people publicising and campaigning for various things so that society becomes immune to the ideas eventually leading to the acceptance of them. This was the case with homosexuality and this will be the case with paedophilia.

Lastly, for those people who look at it in terms of a nurture or nature argument, most evolutionary biologists would probably say (choosing their words carefully in public I hasten to add) that it isn't biologically feasable that the trait is genetic as it is a population limiting factor (homosexuals don't breed) and since most mutations from the norm are very rare unless they give some added advantage to survival (homosexuality is decidedly not advantageous as it would not allow one to breed) they would dissappear from the random malfunctions of the genome from whence they came!

We all have choice and if you want, you can call that a gene, because we all have it.

AND FINALLY

I think you have demonstrated quite clearly how moronic you are and that your views are not really well-thought out but is the regurgitated nonesense of others. Perhaps it is time for you to actually have an original thought - perhaps you should do a spot of reading and actually digest the words and formulate something original, then perhaps we could have a fruitful debate.

now your insults...:D i'll have a right laugh at your replies. It's expected though ;) ......as there isn't enough braincells to put an argument together on this board.

nevermind though, at least the music is good here.:) [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/FONT]

#553292Post 34 of 99

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[quote=Yao]It has been explained as a means of nature to avoid overpupolation, or deal with that problem. Homosexuality = no kids[/quote] Listen to your self...:( A question: In your life appearance view, are you creationist or evolutionist?

[quote=Yao]If humans destroy too much of nature, or alter it, it turns against them and then we're in deep shit[/quote] Exactly! :) Homosexuality = deep shit! [that we have run into, because being so misdirected in our life view]

#553293Post 35 of 99

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[quote=sono]i thought i might ignore the lot of you because obviously intelligence is difficult to come by on this board, but I thought I'd reply and maybe something will click in your empty heads.

Scientific viewpoint:

Mutant is a biological term (not something that you have so ignorantly picked up from popular fiction) that denotes a genetic abnormality, a difference from the norm (the majority of the population) expressed in (not always but mostly) a phenotypic form that is advantageous or disadvantageous to the individual in terms of survival and also this particular genotypic/phenotypic expression having a higher statistical probability of being found in future generations of a given population via reproduction.

Now this is [B][I]not[/I][/B] the case with homosexuality because it is not an advantageous charecteristic as it cannot be passed on to future generations as homosexuals do not reproduce in the biological sense of the term. Hence homosexuality is not from something found in genes and the most obvious example of this is identical twins were one is heterosexual and the other homosexual which betrays to us that homosexuality cannot be genetic since both have identical genes.

Even assuming a "gay" gene, do we not all have choice? Some Drs believe alcoholism is an inherited gene. Does that make it ok for me to be a drunkard.

Putting your lifemaking organ into a deficating, human waste orafice, sounds absurd but hey, your minds don't work in logic do they.

This whole gene thing is suspect. Next out, they going to tell us there is a gene for paedophiles. Ah, its ok, cause its not their fault, its their genetics. Here, here, its ok, won't you watch my kid this weekend.

I don't think so.

Political:

Today the sovereignty belongs to the people and it is them who determine what is acceptable or not; hence, the goalposts continually change to suit their demands. As time goes on, societies are tailored to the needs of the people and thus become more accepting to certain ideas and practices. These societies do not have a fixed criterion for determining right or wrong and this is why in reality there is no such thing as ?illegal? or ?wrong?; rather, there are temporary wrongs that, given time, will become accepted by the masses. This is why we find people publicising and campaigning for various things so that society becomes immune to the ideas eventually leading to the acceptance of them. This was the case with homosexuality and this will be the case with paedophilia.

Lastly, for those people who look at it in terms of a nurture or nature argument, most evolutionary biologists would probably say (choosing their words carefully in public I hasten to add) that it isn't biologically feasable that the trait is genetic as it is a population limiting factor (homosexuals don't breed) and since most mutations from the norm are very rare unless they give some added advantage to survival (homosexuality is decidedly not advantageous as it would not allow one to breed) they would dissappear from the random malfunctions of the genome from whence they came!

We all have choice and if you want, you can call that a gene, because we all have it.

AND FINALLY

I think you have demonstrated quite clearly how moronic you are and that your views are not really well-thought out but is the regurgitated nonesense of others. Perhaps it is time for you to actually have an original thought - perhaps you should do a spot of reading and actually digest the words and formulate something original, then perhaps we could have a fruitful debate.

now your insults...:D i'll have a right laugh at your replies. It's expected though ;) ......as there isn't enough braincells to put an argument together on this board.

nevermind though, at least the music is good here.:) [/quote] I am trying to understand what is your opinion :) Can you help me?

#553415Post 36 of 99

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Science journals you say...very scientific. What about the Greeks and Romans. You weren't cool unless you were gay. They were one of the first modern societies. Probably some of your relatives.

#553429Post 37 of 99

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Wow -- truly mind bending. The level of intolerance here is staggering.

Do you realized that "educated" minds once used biology to support the notion that blacks were inferior to whites? That women were inferior to men? If you honestly believe that homosexuality is a disease and grounds for expulsion from the human race, hey knock yourself out - but when you say shit like this:

[quote]I think you have demonstrated quite clearly how moronic you are and that your views are not really well-thought out but is the regurgitated nonesense of others. Perhaps it is time for you to actually have an original thought - perhaps you should do a spot of reading and actually digest the words and formulate something original, then perhaps we could have a fruitful debate.[/quote]

I just hope you see the irony in it.

Flame away if you choose, but this is a dead-end discussion if I've ever seen one.

#553492Post 38 of 99

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god i think your kids will make poto look like john wayne.

#553558Post 39 of 99

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[quote=srbbnd]Science journals you say...very scientific. What about the Greeks and Romans. You weren't cool unless you were gay. They were one of the first modern societies. Probably some of your relatives.[/quote]

:lol: , and.....? :what

Romans were no role models, any society is no role model which is my point. Just because they accepted gays doesn't mean it is right.

#553567Post 40 of 99

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[quote=BSully828]Wow -- truly mind bending. The level of intolerance here is staggering.

Do you realized that "educated" minds once used biology to support the notion that blacks were inferior to whites? That women were inferior to men? If you honestly believe that homosexuality is a disease and grounds for expulsion from the human race, hey knock yourself out - but when you say shit like this:

I just hope you see the irony in it.

Flame away if you choose, but this is a dead-end discussion if I've ever seen one.[/quote]

I mentioned the scientific viewpoint to provide a perspective on it since some homosexuals like to argue that 'they were born that way' and that 'it's in their genes'. There is no conclusive evidence to prove it.

Plus i gave my viewpoint in terms in logic, I could have gone more in depth but to write pages and pages on this subject is not worth my time, and in the end you're not going to believe it because you've made up your mind, fullstop.

Everyone has the right to disagree but at least do it without the insults.

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