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TRUMP - Pros & Cons

329 durable postsStarted 2018-11-03Latest 2021-02-04
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1232505]So according to some QAnon circles, Trump's "concession" speech was either deepfaked and a sign that he's actually dead or a sign that everything is going according to plan. They seem to be unable to decide.

The deepfake "theory" is gaining more traction now that Trump's Twitter account is permanently suspended. It was Jack Dorsey himself that just happened across the deepfake tweet, panicked and said "they're on to us!" and promptly locked the account, according to QAnon (how they know this, is unclear).

The mental gymnastics along with "OMG, like the government was totally looking at my twitter! I'm a part of all this!" implied narcissism is staggering.[/QUOTE]

FFS. It’s all a part of the social fabric and communities moving to online echo chambers vs actual accountability in real life with a variety of people.

#1804848Post 282 of 329

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He got banned on spotify LOL

#1804849Post 283 of 329

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He's planning on starting his own platform. I can only imagine he is finding a nice place for all the racists to rally online and easier for the Biden administration's DOJ to find these twats.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1232553]He's planning on starting his own platform. I can only imagine he is finding a nice place for all the racists to rally online and easier for the Biden administration's DOJ to find these twats.[/QUOTE]

It will work about as well as Sarah Palin's - guaranteed he's going to charge for it.

#1804853Post 285 of 329

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Trump and Pence have not spoken since Wednesday. Trump is in isolation, not governing at all, most likely just golfing like normal and trying to acquire more money from his criminal fraudster friends who we will see on the pardon list soon.

#1804857Post 286 of 329

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Apparently Ivanka plans to run for some office in Florida. Paula White will likely consult her on how to create her own spinoff on Christianity in order to create a cult like following of ideologically possessed deplorables.

[video=youtube_share;5w0kSkvusjI]https://youtu.be/5w0kSkvusjI[/video]

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[url]https://www.queerty.com/noflylist-videos-sobbing-domestic-terrorists-arrested-airplanes-going-viral-20210111?fbclid=IwAR0Am7-MokpY26dyQUMPg6IrBNix9VkOVqjK9I1XftjBJ40pIXteA2g4NlI[/url]

#1804867Post 288 of 329

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1232563]Apparently Ivanka plans to run for some office in Florida.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if she's getting a job in Kayleigh McEnany's dad's construction company.

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[video=youtube;MEVTnC0Hky0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVTnC0Hky0[/video]

#1804878Post 290 of 329

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Watching the impeachment vote, I don't understand Rep Jim Jordan's arguments that impeachment doesn't bring the country together, that he'll soon leave office peacefully, that the Republican party is for law & order, etc. NONE of that applies since he did NOT uphold his oath of office and broke the law. He talked about double standards, but how is the president not going to be held accountable for breaking the law? If he's not, there's the freaking double standard.

With so many PACs disassociating, banks, companies, etc. I think it's more dangerous for these Republicans to vote not to impeach, but more so because he betrayed his oath, inciting violence in which 5 people died and more injured and he's turned on the very government he swore to work within. It's ludicrous what these Republicans think they can get away with & they're very passionate in their views....disgusting. And I watched it with an open mind.

#1804879Post 291 of 329

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Nearly everyone is cutting ties with the Trump's. If the last 4 years prior to last week isn't ruining him, last week sure is ruining their name now.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/business/trump-new-york-city-contracts/index.html[/URL]

#1804888Post 292 of 329

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Jim Jordan is one of the biggest Republican trolls of all, he's right there with Ted Cruz.

[video=youtube;pNdm6M8ctfo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdm6M8ctfo[/video]

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[video=youtube;x3zaA6BA_ls]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zaA6BA_ls[/video]

#1804890Post 294 of 329

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looks like there’s a lot more to this

[video=youtube_share;bcuHstg0hWc]https://youtu.be/bcuHstg0hWc[/video]

#1804900Post 295 of 329

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[QUOTE=ddr;1232592]Nearly everyone is cutting ties with the Trump's. If the last 4 years prior to last week isn't ruining him, last week sure is ruining their name now.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/business/trump-new-york-city-contracts/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

Rats leaving a sinking ship (yacht)

Plus, Giuliani's legal services aren't going to get paid - Trump is refusing to pay (again).

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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/CKF6NtiJ4Zf/[/url]

#1804946Post 297 of 329

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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1232620]Rats leaving a sinking ship (yacht)

Plus, Giuliani's legal services aren't going to get paid - Trump is refusing to pay (again).[/QUOTE]

I think we all expected that one... the amount of money those two extorted from the taxpayers personally, they will be fine i am sure although hopefully behind bars.

#1804949Post 298 of 329

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Can't believe that I've been gone from this website so long and was such an asshole about politics in this forum BEFORE Trump, that I don't think I've commented once over the last 4 years of this disaster.

Anyway good riddance, almost time for Trump to go, and hopefully here is more to me being on MS in the future. 8)

#1805001Post 299 of 329

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Loving Q Anon's message

"hey, we never got we wanted, but what's important is the friends we made along the way"

I'm sure the peeps that got arrested storming the capitol might have a little something to say about that.

#1805002Post 300 of 329

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Pros, it might be over ?

#1805005Post 301 of 329

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I just want to say Congratulation!! to you all on your new president !! :D

#1805006Post 302 of 329

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:Choir:

#1805012Post 303 of 329

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Biden's cabinet pick has a ridiculous number of indians. Pretty impressive.

#1805038Post 304 of 329

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Qanon nutters are having a break with reality this week [url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-about-to-puke-qanon-in-chaos-as-biden-takes-office[/url]

#1805047Post 305 of 329

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MJ where you at homey?

Your boy Donald incited a coup on our nations capital that ended with 5 completely avoidable deaths. You know, just to cap off his 4 years of lies, disrespect, manipulation, contempt and principleless (made up word) based leadership. :Homer:

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[QUOTE=REDROCK;1232807]MJ where you at homey?

Your boy Donald incited a coup on our nations capital that ended with 5 completely avoidable deaths. You know, just to cap off his 4 years of lies, disrespect, manipulation, contempt and principleless (made up word) based leadership. :Homer:[/QUOTE]

Dont forget that he and a crooked Justice Department lawyer also attempted a final takeover over of the Justice Department in last ditch attempt to void Georgia's results. It only failed because every member of the upper Justice Department said they would resign if they were to go ahead with it.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-justice-department-election.html[/URL]

Trump is scared of what being a citizen entails and what his future looks like given all of the pending litigation against himself and his companies. He did almost everything, very nearly everything, to keep power and avoid eventual prosecution. We just have to thank that we still have Republicans of morals who actually care about our Constitution and the history and future of our nation. But really, they all knew what they were getting into, they knew what he was in 2016... their only want was more Supreme Court Justice's, which they got in the end. I still feel sorry for everyone gullible enough to be a Trump follower and fall under his fraudulent spell.

His pardon list was almost completely filled with his friends and friends' friends... nothing but fellow fraudsters, tax evaders and money launderer's.

I feel sorry for the secret serviceman forced to be around and protect this despicable human being.

#1805058Post 307 of 329

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[QUOTE=ddr;1232809]I feel sorry for the secret serviceman forced to be around and protect this despicable human being.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't, there's proven partisanship towards Donald among the higher ranking Secret Service folks who were removed from Biden's security detail.

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Trump campaign paid USD 2.7 Million to organizers of the coup to attack the Capitol. MAGA!!!

[url]https://thegrio.com/2021/01/23/donald-trump-organizers/[/url]

#1805087Post 309 of 329

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Republicans are all behind Trump and his conspiracy theories

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/donald-trump-kevin-mccarthy-meeting/index.html[/URL]

Trump still has the Republican party by the balls.

#1805088Post 310 of 329

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I don't think he has them by the balls really, they 100% are on board with the racism and conspiracy theories.

Their voting base 100% wants an overthrow of the government and also wants them to do whatever they can to keep minorities from voting. It's why the biggest Trump dick blower in Congress flew down to FL today to kiss the ass of the most unpopular dipshit and worst POTUS in history who incited an insurrection, about the most un-American thing you could possibly do, and he's not going to get convicted in the Senate.

It's also why the insane racist Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't going anywhere. The GOP is a white power minority rule party now driven by disinformation and dumbass white boomers who can't differentiate facts from fiction. Things are going to get much worse with the GOP not better.

[IMG]https://images.wsj.net/im-292133[/IMG]

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[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/28/wuhan-americans-evacuation/?itid=hp-top-table-main[/URL]

[quote] Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:19 p.m. CST

As the first American evacuees from Wuhan, China, touched down at a California military base a year ago, fleeing the epicenter of the [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2"]coronavirus[/URL] outbreak, they were met by U.S. health officials with no virus prevention plan or infection-control training — and who had not even been told to wear masks, according to a federal investigation.

Later, those officials were told to remove protective gear when meeting with the evacuees to avoid “bad optics,” and days after those initial encounters, departed California aboard commercial airline flights to other destinations. [/quote]

MAGA

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The ONLY reason the GOP won't abandon Trump is because they know the power he holds over the Trumpanzee's. Not a single R president in history has managed to pull off (in terms of rallying support) the way Trump has. The GOP knows, they know it very well. And they want to abuse it as long as they can ride the gravy train to power. They aren't stupid, they're just hedging their bets on power and personal gain rather than their oath to the constitution.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1232864]They aren't stupid, they're just hedging their bets on power and personal gain rather than their oath to the constitution.[/QUOTE]

Which is dangerous to our democracy without a doubt. Their base and voting % of the whole is dwindling, old white people are dieing and young people actually like other people and want social change for the most part. If they are willing to throw their hands up and let Trump do what he has done to their party in an effort to keep people voting for them... what else are they willing to do? They have already proven their oath to the Republican party while throwing the Constitution in the trash. I am just afraid they will take America down, and likely the World as a downstream effect, in an effort just to keep power.

#1805093Post 314 of 329

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Pros - Gone?

Cons - Zombie hand breaking through dirt?

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[QUOTE=ddr;1232865]Which is dangerous to our democracy without a doubt. Their base and voting % of the whole is dwindling, old white people are dieing and young people actually like other people and want social change for the most part. If they are willing to throw their hands up and let Trump do what he has done to their party in an effort to keep people voting for them... what else are they willing to do? They have already proven their oath to the Republican party while throwing the Constitution in the trash. I am just afraid they will take America down, and likely the World as a downstream effect, in an effort just to keep power.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. The GOP base are a straight up cult now. Anti-science, fake Christian death cult.

The only reason Trump is what he is, is because Americans are dumb as fuck and saw him on the moving picture box for 10 years and he has a relationship with these idiots now.

They are going to go full nazi because their base wants it now. This dumbass broad is doing this just today: [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/congresswoman-cori-bush-berated-by-marjorie-taylor-greene-moving-offices-2021-1[/URL]

The GOP can't govern, full stop. You saw after the last 4 years of what they "accomplished". They are a white power anti democratic demagogue party now.

[url]https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1355184229450207235[/url]

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[QUOTE=REDROCK;1232807]...years of lies, disrespect, manipulation, contempt and principleless... [/QUOTE]

All things too familiar to you! Lol:idea:

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1232864]The ONLY reason the GOP won't abandon Trump is because they know the power he holds over the Trumpanzee's. Not a single R president in history has managed to pull off (in terms of rallying support) the way Trump has. The GOP knows, they know it very well. And they want to abuse it as long as they can ride the gravy train to power. They aren't stupid, they're just hedging their bets on power and personal gain rather than their oath to the constitution.[/QUOTE]

Don't you think many Retrumplicans are embarrassed they ever voted for him though after the insurrection? Most I talk to are. Jan 6th changed some of his hold on them. GOP better wake up to that fact or watch their party disintegrate into the party once known for conservatism become the party of racism, violence, and wacko conspiracy theorists, and of low morals.

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[QUOTE=Amber;1232873]Don't you think many Retrumplicans are embarrassed they ever voted for him though after the insurrection? Most I talk to are. Jan 6th changed some of his hold on them. GOP better wake up to that fact or watch their party disintegrate into the party once known for conservatism become the party of racism, violence, and wacko conspiracy theorists, and of low morals.[/QUOTE]

Not really no. Kevin is down in FL kissing his cult leaders ass because his voter base, which is a complete cult now demands it.

The GOP would be shitting on Trumps grave by now blaming him for losing all 3 branches of government, losing reelection and being a complete twice impeached buffoon if it actually served their interests.

Since that crazy Qanon broad is yelling and screaming at everyone she meets and as more of her racist old Facebook postings and bigoted interviews come out, her support will deepen. The GOP isn't a governing party now. They're a racist white griveance party now driven by Fox News and online disinformation, lead by a dumbass wannabe cult leader who was too stupid and lazy to actually complete his coup.

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1232864]The ONLY reason the GOP won't abandon Trump is because they know the power he holds over the Trumpanzee's. Not a single R president in history has managed to pull off (in terms of rallying support) the way Trump has. The GOP knows, they know it very well. And they want to abuse it as long as they can ride the gravy train to power. They aren't stupid, they're just hedging their bets on power and personal gain rather than their oath to the constitution.[/QUOTE]

I kind of disagree. What I think we're seeing right now is a party looking down the barrel of a split, and one that will leave the party in a severely weakened position. They have a block of voters that are desperate to believe anything that will be told to them, so long as it sounds like it's beneficial to them.

The establishment Republicans - Cheney, McConnell and others have become hostages of their own party's making - they're hanging on to their jobs, as you said - they played along as long as they did, and now they know that they can't backtrack for fear of reprisal like what Graham has seen coming back to his home state at the airport. At some point or another, when you deal with this kind of extremism, you're going to have people questioning their loyalty and devotion to their cause - and anything less than a true believer will get crushed.

If they split, they will be weakened for decades, as the party will be too busy trying to keep the base on their side - and unable to fight for an election while fighting on two fronts. McConnell doesn't have as much control as he likes to project - he knows he's not running the party much anymore.

They have the advantage of having a base that will believe anything that they tell them (Jewish Space Lasers causing the forest fires in California!), the problem is you can only do this for so long before they come looking for something substantial delivered and looking at the Republicans to fulfill the promises that were made that they won't be able to keep.

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Trump's legal team for his impeachment trial just quit on him last night. Two weeks before trial.

Apparently he's insisting that his defense be "the election was stolen from me" (which will fail), and that he's upset that he can't punish a sitting president legally, despite his having claimed immunity for the whole time in office.

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