[url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20008687"]BBC News - BBC poll: Rest of world favours Obama[/url]

Not that I needed the bbc's poll to confirm what I already knew, but as our world becomes more interdependent every day, it is nice to know that re-electing Obama is favored by our international friends.

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That's a good argument to vote for Mitt.

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The popular vote and electoral vote are going to Obama imo.

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The popular vote sounds like it might be a bit close unlike the electoral.

[quote] The national polls now range from showing a 1-point lead for Mr. Romney to slightly more than a 4-point advantage for Mr. Obama. The FiveThirtyEight forecast of the national popular vote is within this range, projecting Mr. Obama’s most likely margin of victory to be two or three percentage points, approximating the margin that George W. Bush achieved in defeating John Kerry in 2004. [/quote]

[url="http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/nov-5-late-poll-gains-for-obama-leave-romney-with-longer-odds/"]Nov. 5: Late Poll Gains for Obama Leave Romney With Longer Odds - NYTimes.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068055]The popular vote and electoral vote are going to Obama imo.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. All the binders of votes are going to 'bama.

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Of course they favor him. He makes our country weak.

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:lol: So all those countries who depend on US spending to bolster their economy are happy when we are broke or not in a surplus? That is somehow better for their economy? Comeon...

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^Agreed - most other countries want America to succeed for a variety of reasons.

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Sex Appeal and Sex Appeal alone.

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almost everybody wants a strong US (just probably not the islamic world)

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omg, you ppl really didnt know that?! here in the german speaking part of europe we could not even think of someone like romney being taken serious in any way whatsoever. he is such a big joke and everyone knows it. i cant believe, how a person like him can even become a presidential candidate....but then again i couldnt believe the same thing about bush..

this is really sad actually. nevertheless, you dodged a bullet there.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9NcFc.jpg[/IMG]

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Germany actually seems to possess some fiscal sanity, much unlike what we have now. Not sure how you can be so brazen as to speak for all Germans in proclaiming your love for the incumbent.

On a similar note, those bastions of liberty, Cuba and Venezuela, also chose Barack...so pardon me if I take any international endorsements with a grain of salt.

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I can, polls in germany have shown that more than 80% of the germans would vote for obama.

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That makes no sense, your own government has actually put the breaks on indiscriminate spending, pretty much a polar opposite to how Barry Soetoro is governing. You are welcome to him.

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^just admit it Vinnie, you are out of touch with the majority of American's man and evidently most of Europe. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but the world is changing. Germany ftw :)

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068150]^Agreed - most other countries want America to succeed for a variety of reasons.[/QUOTE]

And boy are we succeeding! I mean, by every measure our country is a success. Right! RIGHT? Because we're America. And that's good enough of a measure as any other.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1068231]Germany actually seems to possess some fiscal sanity, much unlike what we have now. Not sure how you can be so brazen as to speak for all Germans in proclaiming your love for the incumbent.

On a similar note, those bastions of liberty, Cuba and Venezuela, also chose Barack...so pardon me if I take any international endorsements with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, I'm quite content that the Germans are going to suffer for irresponsibilities of nations.

They should suffer. And not just for the minimal techno sound they unleashed on the world btw.

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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;1068171]almost everybody wants a strong US (just probably not the islamic world)[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's accurate either buddy. Let me ask you though, do you have any Muslim friends? Just curious.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068268]^just admit it Vinnie, you are out of touch with the majority of American's man and evidently most of Europe. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but the world is changing. Germany ftw :)[/QUOTE] No, Florida, I won't whitewash reality because you told me, because the reality is [B]much more grim[/B]. How about those freedom-loving outfits known as Cuba and Venezuela? Tyranny ftw (as you careen off a cliff).

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1068284]No, Florida, I won't whitewash reality because you told me, because the reality is [B]much more grim[/B]. How about those freedom-loving outfits known as Cuba and Venezuela? Tyranny ftw (as you careen off a cliff).[/QUOTE]

Dafuq they have to do with this country?

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;1068289]Dafuq they have to do with this country?[/QUOTE]

Nothing has anything to do with this country if you just wish it so.

I call that the internal hamster in your brain trying to rationalize everything. It must be tired. Give it a rest for once?

SAVE THE HAMSTER!

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Dafuq is happening. Oh God I'm not good with computer.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;1068299]Dafuq is happening. Oh God I'm not good with computer.[/QUOTE]

gives attention

satisfied?

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1068271]To be honest, I'm quite content that the Germans are going to suffer for irresponsibilities of nations.

They should suffer. And not just for the minimal techno sound they unleashed on the world btw.[/QUOTE] C'mon now, minimal in small dosages isn't so bad. :lol I am probably more offended by their euro trance and gabber contributions personally. ;)

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1068323]C'mon now, minimal in small dosages isn't so bad. :lol I am probably more offended by their euro trance and gabber contributions personally. ;)[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't equate 'gabber' with 'contributions'.

YMMV.

Minimal: All melodies must be equal or no melodies may exist.

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I need to find that Lars Fischer - Wir Sind dj set I have. Killer German minimal for yaz.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068279]I don't think that's accurate either buddy. Let me ask you though, do you have any Muslim friends? Just curious.[/QUOTE]

hmmm, it seems what i wrote didnt come across right at all. I was trying to avoid using the term terrorists/jihadists or the like. Rephrased, what I mean is that it would be false to suggest that all people in the world want the US to do well (Iran, certain groups of ultra religious pakistanis and those with similar viewpoints). However, I would suggest most people do want the US to be strong as they are a source of stability, both to the economy and security, and a major proponent of human rights and democracy.

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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;1068345]hmmm, it seems what i wrote didnt come across right at all. I was trying to avoid using the term terrorists/jihadists or the like. Rephrased, what I mean is that it would be false to suggest that all people in the world want the US to do well (Iran, certain groups of ultra religious pakistanis and those with similar viewpoints). However, I would suggest most people do want the US to be strong as they are a source of stability, both to the economy and security, and a major proponent of human rights and democracy.[/QUOTE]

"Huh? Human rights????" - Middle Easterners.

Democracy? Tyranny by the majority faction? That's something we should be promoting?

I do not think you know what democracy involves.

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You have lost me now, i have no idea what you are talking about. However, I can assure you I know what democracy is.

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^Don't mind Mariner, he is suffering from early 30's onset dementia due to studying for the Bar Exam too much.

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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;1068518]You have lost me now, i have no idea what you are talking about. However, I can assure you I know what democracy is.[/QUOTE]

it's tyranny of the majority. that's what democracy is. you think that's a good thing. I find that ....strange.

Of course you know what I'm talking about. Don't feign ignorance. (Or are you being truly ignorant?)

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068526]^Don't mind Mariner, he is suffering from early 30's onset dementia due to studying for the Bar Exam too much.[/QUOTE]

Is that what you think? lulz

I guess doctors also suffer from early ..30's onset dementia due to studying for the boards too much, too.

Surely that's the case.

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just mess'n with ya my man

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1068596]it's tyranny of the majority. that's what democracy is. you think that's a good thing. I find that ....strange.

Of course you know what I'm talking about. Don't feign ignorance. (Or are you being truly ignorant?)[/QUOTE]

then you are maybe...strange

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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;1068635]then you are maybe...strange[/QUOTE]

Do explain the societal benefits of when 50.1% of a country can dictate the rules.

I don't see this as a good thing - you do. Please, enlighten me as to why this is so.

The most violent leaders ever to walk this planet gained control through democracy simply because one group who had the superior numbers could simply vote away the rights and livelihoods of those in smaller groups.

Apparently I'm not connecting the dots as to why this is a good thing.

Enlighten the rest of us here as we read your praise of democracy, please.

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Do explain the societal benefits of when 50.1% of a country can dictate the rules.

I don't see this as a good thing - you do. Please, enlighten me as to why this is so.

The most violent leaders ever to walk this planet gained control through democracy simply because one group who had the superior numbers could simply vote away the rights and livelihoods of those in smaller groups.

Apparently I'm not connecting the dots as to why this is a good thing.

Enlighten the rest of us here as we read your praise of democracy, please.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't aware re electing Obama is similar to electing a "violent leader" like Pol Pot. Shit doesn't look good for us at all now that I think about it.

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before you throw the word tyranny about you should think about what that word means for people in other countries

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The right wing vehemently detests Obama, I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime. My childhood best friends parents are off their reservation over Obama. Normally they are reasonable people but this election has turned my friends Mom into a raging psycho. She's insulted my entire family suggesting we are against God's plan for our country and essentially don't know what we're doing when we vote for Obama. I know many other right-wingers share her nutty views.

Rather than get pissed off at dems or those who voted for Obama maybe next time GET INVOLVED MORE, spend that hateful energy on a local level where change really takes place...

It's frustrating to see people who don't know what they don't know let FOX NEWS feed into their ignorance.

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1068599]Is that what you think? lulz

I guess doctors also suffer from early ..30's onset dementia due to studying for the boards too much, too.

Surely that's the case.[/QUOTE]

male's brain function begins to decrease at age 27...it was on bbc a few years ago...I think.

Carry on.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1068913]The right wing vehemently detests Obama, I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime. My childhood best friends parents are off their reservation over Obama. Normally they are reasonable people but this election has turned my friends Mom into a raging psycho. She's insulted my entire family suggesting we are against God's plan for our country and essentially don't know what we're doing when we vote for Obama. I know many other right-wingers share her nutty views.

Rather than get pissed off at dems or those who voted for Obama maybe next time GET INVOLVED MORE, spend that hateful energy on a local level where change really takes place...

It's frustrating to see people who don't know what they don't know let FOX NEWS feed into their ignorance.[/QUOTE]

Those ultra right wings/neo cons over there scare the shit out of me...some of them are just christian taleban. Anyone seen god camp?

God's country? Who did "god" give it to first?

[video=youtube;eujCeBC4Lh0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujCeBC4Lh0[/video]

Religion in the US is a bit "in your face" from what I have seen.....

I'm tired...apologies in advance if I've offended anyone.