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The Way I See It

97 durable postsStarted 2011-11-04Latest 2011-11-20
#109751Post 1 of 97

The way I see the future unfolding for the US is not pleasant. If Herman Cain becomes President I can GUARANTEE it is the end of the US as we know it. If you think back 6 years ago to your mindset of"if a black man could be President" you would have said "YA when the world ends". The Elite are setting up the US for a racial war. if Herman Cain wis and the US fails the US will [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/URL] black people for their failure. Even though the media and elite pushed them in that position. It is the east scapegoat. Also since most humans are completely oblivious to word affairs they won't see the signs. Think about it. Two black Presidents in a row when back in 2006 everyone would have said "when pigs fly." This will lead to great turmoil and separation in the US between not only blacks and whites, but between people that voted for them.

I also see the OWS movement as a way to stir the people. It is a mainstream movement. And once the mob is out it can be pointed in which ever direction they see fit.

My projection for the US is even more failure and more suffering. People will die in the thousands if not millions.

#1561397Post 2 of 97

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That silly bastard will not be president. :runningman: averted. You do realize Obama had popular support over the white guy and has a huge youth following. Also gays in the military now too, wow. Not a big deal anymore. Being black isn't an issue.

Falling back to the race thing since you are out of ideas right now?

#1561401Post 3 of 97

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Obama will win in 2012. I will bet anyone, anything.

#1561422Post 4 of 97

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Reso, Florida, you guys crack me up when you stand up for this guy who has absolutely destroyed our country's values, unity, and the economy. Do you two hate republicans that much or do you really like Obama? Be honest.

Cain is a good American man, raised to earn a living and not rely on the government tit. This shit about the sexual harassment charge, I could see it coming from a mile away. Our democrat president Clinton can get his dick sucked by a 19 year intern in the oval office, but a black republican candidate is getting grilled for saying a "sexual" comment to a coworker fucking 20 years ago. This is the best the his political opponents could dig up. The mainstream liberal media will be the only reason he isn't elected. I truly thought he could fix our country's economy at first, but now with the gaywad protesters, I'm not sure the "99%" will give anyone a chance to do so.

This kinda sums it up. [IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374859_2044201195766_1566452468_31543860_1028608874_n.jpg[/IMG]

RM, race will not divide this country. Politics however will. I've said this before and I'll say it again, if Obama is re-elected in 2012 our country will divide and will no longer be the USA. In the off chance that doesn't happen, it will be because our military will forcefully remove him from office.

#1561424Post 5 of 97

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[QUOTE=clintlove;1001472] this guy who has absolutely destroyed our country's values, unity, and the economy. [/QUOTE]

No :lol:

#1561426Post 6 of 97

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lolwut. How about the stupid dickhead who drove this country to two wars and put us in the serious debt shithole where we are now? He had nothing to do with it at all? Humm. I don't know how Obama destroyed this country...wait yes I do. Black Jesus didn't save the world within 6 months of taking office and undo all of the fuckstorm that Bush created in his 2 terms prior. So it is his fault. Unfortunately Ameurrica is dumb enough to belive this right now, and the Repubs are doing all they can to keep that up and fucking over anything the Dems would want to do just so Obama will lose. Why is it everyone defending Repubs don't acknowledge this at all? Everyone says Obama is fucking the world over, but WTF is going on with the Republicans? This is why Congress is fucked right now, if they are going to cut their nose off to spite their face...well fuck all of em they all should be fired.

Also the whole Herman Cain thing ain't black on black crime again, it is standard politics. That shit conveniently always happens at the oh so worst time. Also Clinton did get his wang chung'd and remember what happened with that? I seem to remember that didn't get swept under the rug.

Also McCain is a good American man who wants to keep all of our troops overseas who are fighting two wars. Very patriotic of him to keep up the good fight.

#1561433Post 7 of 97

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Wow, our views are so very, very different. There's not one thing I could say, fact or opinion, that would make you understand or change your mind; and vice versa. Sometimes I wonder why I get involved in political discussions. Like I'm going to change someone's view who opposes my political views. Believe what you want to I guess. There's definitely two sides to every story. Who says I'm right because it's what I believe.

Not sure why I'm continuing, but ah, fuck it. Here goes.

My view on Obama is he had a Democratic House and Senate his first 2 years in office. They approved any and everything he wanted. They approved his "milestone" Obamacare. Why he thought the government could defy the constitution and force Americans to buy insurance or be financially penalized is beyond me. However, his administration approved it. He then spent trillions of dollars to "boost" the economy. Actual results were no improvement at all; It's actually gotten worse. Because of this, the mainstream liberal Obama supporting media has purposely created an ever widening gap between the wealthy and poor, whites and "minorities" (I fucking hate that word by the way), upper class to middle class to lower class. It's gotten so bad, people are protesting in the streets about wealth redistribution and how the rich need to be increasingly taxed so the government will give them more without working for it or earning it. (I do understand that some of the protests started because of the huge bailouts on wallstreet and that shit should definitely stop) However, Obama created and approved the largest bailouts in history (example [URL="http://americansforprosperity.org/green-energy-scam"][COLOR=#ffd700] solyndra[/COLOR][/URL]), but no one is protesting him. Why?

The Republican Senate is now opposing Obama's bills, because they will fail... again, and increase our country's debt. They also know it's not the taxpaying (I know, some of them don't pay taxes and they definitely shout) rich Americans fault our country is in the shitter. How dare they earn more money than somebody else. If you would pay attention, you would see Republicans have proposed their own Jobs bills that the democratic house has rejected. Why, because it's a Republican bill to boost the economy that doesn't increase taxes on the rich.

It's time to stop blaming Bush for our country's economic issues. Yes he started 2 wars. One was over the largest terrorist attack America had ever experienced, so it was kinda justified. The other however was over what his administration advised him to do. Track down weapons of mass destruction in a terrorist county, which we now know didn't exist. Those wars eventually became so costly our economy started to take a nosedive during his last year as president. Obama inherited a country in debt. If democrats truly wanted to fix the economy and not run it into the ground like it is today, they had ample opportunity to do so during the first 2 years. Every economic boost his administration has put in place has failed miserably. It's time to start putting [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/URL] where [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/URL] is due.

Res, your Black Jesus comment is kinda ridiculous. You're actually proving my point by saying things like that.

On Cain keeping our troops in war. If you would actually listen to what he said and not what the media is saying he said, you would hear that he would listen to the military advisers that are commanding our troops in war. If they advised him to keep our troops there, he would keep our troops there. If anyone knows what's best to do for our military in war, it's the military. After all they are the one's actually fighting.

Now..... it's 3:30 in the morning, and I've been doing a little drinking. I'm gonna stop ranting and hit the sack. Ya'll have a good night.

#1561469Post 8 of 97

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:D

I'm just amazed he should be able to fix the entire countries problems in 2 years, hence he must be Black Jesus if that is actually achievable. Also if the banks weren't bailed out we would be in an even 100% worse situation than we are right now, and everyone would be blaming Obama also. He was fucked from the get go by inheriting a country so far fucked up, so pointing the finger at one person is a bit shortsighted imo.

Also the Repubs tried to subpoena White House regarding Solyndra, but they are only doing that because they care about the money.

On wonder his ass has gotten so much gray hair the last 2 years. :lol:

#1561471Post 9 of 97

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Also I think the current state reinforces my point, it is either all or none with everyone in Congress right now, so say hello to the country going down the shitter even more until they all stop acting like dumbass school children. Hence the lowest approval ratings numbers for Congress EVER I believe.

#1561478Post 10 of 97

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;1001554]so pointing the finger at one person is a bit shortsighted imo. [/QUOTE]

Yes.

#1561506Post 11 of 97

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;1001554]I'm just amazed he should be able to fix the entire countries problems in 2 years[/QUOTE]

With full power in Congress in those two years, he could have at least improved the economy if he had any intentions on doing so. It's gotten so much worse since he was elected.

Either way you look at it, making rich people pay for the problems our government has created in the last 5 years is totally fucked up. That's his only plan at the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong.

#1561508Post 12 of 97

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Either way you look at it, the way I see it, he's our President for 4+ more years. Lets wish him the best.

#1561512Post 13 of 97

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Note...taxes on the rich are lower than than they ever have been, so I don't think anyone should be crying if they get raised back to where the used to be, or even more. Amurrica seems to think that all of our problems need to be solved, as long as it isn't me. IE: Fix everything, but don't ask me to chip in to do it, find a way without any change of lifestyle on my part. No universal healthcare since why should I be bothered to help anyone else out? Should toss out Social Security and Medicare right away too, and anyone who doesn't want universal coverage should decline any public assistance on moral grounds if they hit hard times then.

#1561518Post 14 of 97

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[url]http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/thirty-top-companies-dodge-tax-20111104-1myie.html[/url]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IoI9c.png[/IMG]

#1561532Post 15 of 97

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I'm not talking about companies Florida, I'm talking about people. All companies and all people should pay taxes. Problem solved.

#1561535Post 16 of 97

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Yuppp

#1561537Post 17 of 97

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Stop calling him Black Jesus. HE is the worst President EVER.. But what could you expect from a community organizer. He has continued the wars that he promised to stop. He has lied about absolutely everything. He has raised the National Debt. His budget deficits are out of control. His investments where he spent the money that raised the National Debt have been a waste. He started a new war with Libya. And almost Pakistan.

Am I missing something. He is much worse than Bush. And I can say that because He is doing what Bush did and made things worse all across the board.

#1561560Post 18 of 97

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1001474]No :lol:[/QUOTE] Even you admitted O'Commie (any request that I "stop saying" this will fall on deaf ears/blind eyes) was schooled in the ways of Alinsky. And O'Commie himself said you would know him by his friends, which are radical, anti-American racists looking to bring about a Marxist utopia. On top of that, the pro-abortion, big labor, anti second amendment-pushing, anything goes for marriage groups are in lockstep with this usurping charlatan. What can I say, I'm with Clint on this one (and Runningman to a large extent who is exactly right about the same broken policies he is continuing to follow, i.e. big government spending and a DEBT THAT IS NOW ABOUT TO SURPASS $15 TRILLION), so at least that levels the playing field a bit.

#1561565Post 19 of 97

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The majority of that debt was created by George Bush. But please continue with the excessive colorful metaphors.

#1561566Post 20 of 97

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He had 8 years to do it, too. I shouldn't need to remind you about the current administration's spending spree compared to all those preceding combined, but it's always Bush's (or somebody else's) fault.

#1561569Post 21 of 97

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Did you pass basic math?

#1561573Post 22 of 97

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So the only way in your eyes the spending wouldn't be 100% his fault is for him to stop on day one the two wars going on overseas, and basically just nullify every fucked up policy that came before him. Hence he has to be Black Jesus in your eyes and do the impossible, or he is Satan.

#1561580Post 23 of 97

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Reso the defender of freedom and super patriot for always standing behind Obama and the US gov't

#1561585Post 24 of 97

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Thanks for not answering my simple question. Unfortunately the real world isn't as black and white, so your reasoning doesn't make much sense.

#1561587Post 25 of 97

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Not the impossible, but actually take steps in downsizing instead of going extra-large, though I already knew he was Satan the first time I laid eyes on him. Anybody with a lick of intuition and independent thinking could see him for the empty sock puppet he is.

You want to see basic math?

[url]http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2011/10/16/official_obama_owns_three_largest_deficits_ever[/url]

[quote] In just three years, more than $4 trillion of red ink has been added to the debt. The government's fiscal year ends September 30.[/quote]

That's more than one-fourth of the current $15 trillion deficit.

RunningMan, to your point, I can see your POV but I think Herman Cain is just the flava' of the month (at least the guy's a certifiable American who has has actually accomplished something worthwhile in his life, though I fear his neutral stance on the FED would spell trouble for us all). Mitt and Rick are waiting in the wings, and the good news is Ron Paul is still at it and has some pretty great grassroots support (esp. in the Military and with a growing youth movement), so that's at least something to be excited about.

#1561588Post 26 of 97

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[QUOTE=runningman;1001687][ATTACH=CONFIG]7279[/ATTACH]

Reso the defender of freedom and super patriot for always standing behind Obama and the US gov't[/QUOTE]

Lame

#1561590Post 27 of 97

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But can we all agree to state, whoever may be in next; We're still fucked.

#1561594Post 28 of 97

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1001697]Not the impossible, but actually take steps in downsizing instead of going extra-large, though I already knew he was Satan the first time I laid eyes on him. Anybody with a lick of intuition and independent thinking could see him for the empty sock puppet he is.

You want to see basic math?

[URL]http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2011/10/16/official_obama_owns_three_largest_deficits_ever[/URL]

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Am I aruging with blind people here who can't read my posts? Sure the budget is the biggest under Obama. Do you actually f-ing understand that there were two wars not started by him, and also the collapse of the US economy during his tenure? Fucking christ. The budget wasn't balanced the day he stepped into office and then went negative. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

[quote]RunningMan, to your point, I can see your POV but I think Herman Cain is just the flava' of the month (at least the guy's a certifiable American who has has actually accomplished something worthwhile in his life, though I fear his neutral stance on the FED would spell trouble for us all). Mitt and Rick are waiting in the wings, and the good news is Ron Paul is still at it and has some pretty great grassroots support (esp. in the Military and with a growing youth movement), so that's at least something to be excited about.[/quote]

Every Republican candidate right now besides Romney is a joke. Cain is an idiot, listen to him argue with himself about his pro life stance. No chance in him going anywhere. Rick Perry is (another) idiot from one of the worst shape states in the union. Ron Paul for some reason is the internets lovechild. I guess Reddit loves to be rebels and vote for the underdog. His balls are older than McCain and half the time his poll numbers dont even exceed the margin of error. Another no chance.

#1561595Post 29 of 97

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The way I see it, Obama has done a lot. I think Occupy Wall Street is a testament to the American people knowing that Obama can't do it alone.

[IMG]http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/70/obama_deal.jpg[/IMG]

#1561596Post 30 of 97

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Vinnie it is possible that he is the flavor of the month but lets face it the Republicans are fucked. If they don't support Ron Paul 100% they can't win. Because Ron will just run as an independent and kill the Repubs. That is why I don't understand why they won't support him. They don't have a choice.

Reso what questions would you like me to answer?

Also I'm sick of hearing that Obama can't do anything.. That is a pretty lame argument. He is the President of the US military. He can do almost anything

#1561597Post 31 of 97

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[QUOTE=runningman;1001708]Vinnie it is possible that he is the flavor of the month but lets face it the Republicans are fucked. If they don't support Ron Paul 100% they can't win. Because Ron will just run as an independent and kill the Repubs. That is why I don't understand why they won't support him. They don't have a choice.

Reso what questions would you like me to answer?

Also I'm sick of hearing that Obama can't do anything.. That is a pretty lame argument. He is the President of the US military. He can do almost anything[/QUOTE]

That Obama didn't create the current debt situation just by himself.

Also the Repubs leading candidates right now switch every week. It so bad right now it is pretty funny.

#1561598Post 32 of 97

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I never said he was alone is this. Bush was a god damn nightmare. Obama will be the nail in the coffin though.

I agree the Repubs are fucked. Like I said Ron Paul is the wildcard

#1561600Post 33 of 97

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Can you cite where Ron Paul has stated he will break from the Republican party if not nominated? BOTH parties are fugged if we continue down this path, and liberty will officially have its throat slit.

#1561601Post 34 of 97

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[QUOTE=runningman;1001708]He is the President of the US military. He can do almost anything[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, do almost anything in regard to?

#1561602Post 35 of 97

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1001714] BOTH parties are fugged if we continue down this path, and liberty will officially have its throat slit.[/QUOTE]

Relax chief. It's a recession, not the end of the world.

#1561603Post 36 of 97

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Anything. He can do anything he wants.

#1561604Post 37 of 97

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[QUOTE=runningman;1001717]Anything. He can do anything he wants.[/QUOTE]

Sorry holmes, nope. You knowing everything about the US and politics srsly cant be srs with this statement. If you take the US citizenship test you are going to fail miserably then. :lol:

#1561606Post 38 of 97

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like the President needs congress to go to war? Like how he bombed Libya because he wanted to? That kind of stuff??

#1561607Post 39 of 97

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[QUOTE=runningman;1001720]like the President needs congress to go to war? Like how he bombed Libya because he wanted to? That kind of stuff??[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about dude?

#1561609Post 40 of 97

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he went to war with Libya without congresses consent. Gosh this is embarrassing.

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