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Arranged Marriage

48 durable postsStarted 2010-07-01Latest 2010-07-06
#85073Post 1 of 48

One of my friends from India is getting married with a girl chosen by his father and mother , he saw her pic and gave 2 thumbs up on it , she is actually pretty cute ...aaaaaaand she is also his cousin. :shock:

Personally I think to marry someone you don't know its kindda whack but I've also heard couples that have been together for a long ass time and they still don't really know the person they are with . Even though the idea of "hot cousin buttsex" arouses me :p I still cant get over the fact that it's arranged . I mean chosen by someone else just to make your life "complete" it reminds me of the time when my mom would buy me clothes ....they were shitty and didnt fit at all . :evil:

I told him to send me pics of their 2 headed kids :p

Anyways I just wanted to know what's GYY take on this .

#1387580Post 2 of 48

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Yikes. First cousin or more distant?

#1387581Post 3 of 48

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[IMG]http://images.wikia.com/openserving/sports/images/c/c0/Inbred.jpg[/IMG]

#1387599Post 4 of 48

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freshie off the boat inbreeding!

Kamal sound familiar? :lol:

#1387603Post 5 of 48

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[QUOTE=Dhar_2;872979]freshie off the boat inbreeding!

Kamal sound familiar? :lol:[/QUOTE]

sure it does, I just read your biography.

Though the concept of arranged marriage has changed phenomenally since a few generations ago. When my grandparents were married, they were selected for each other based on the relatives meeting them and my grandparents didn't even know what the other looked like for 3 days until after the wedding (that's another story).

I myself have had an arranged marriage but it's not "arranged" in a way where my parents say marry this one and it's done. Both of us had the option of saying no. We did spend a little time getting to know each other before we made the decision. I had also met the entire family well in advance and communicated with both my brothers-in-law getting to know them well (both of them are diamonds).

See in Hindu culture, a marriage is not a union of 2 people but a marriage of 2 entire families. This is why it was important for the both of us to get to know both sides of the families as well.

Getting married to "cousins", there are different castes who do that and I'm sure in the more rural areas, it's more prevalent. Of course in the urban areas and metropolitan cities, it's a thing of the past.

#1387604Post 6 of 48

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[QUOTE=Shpira;872960][IMG]http://images.wikia.com/openserving/sports/images/c/c0/Inbred.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I used to work with someone who's parents where cousin's He was born with no neck and his fingers where joined togther.

#1387609Post 7 of 48

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for micko! ;) [IMG]http://thinkingmeat.net/wp-content/uploads/inbreeding.jpg[/IMG]

#1387614Post 8 of 48

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^ i think that picture should read "don't do meth" rather than what it does say.... gross.

banging your cousin... gross.

#1387616Post 9 of 48

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To back up what Kamal said, my father always told me "you're not marrying the girl, you're marrying the family." Lots of truth in that one.

As for the arrangement of two families marrying their children, I think it could go either way depending on the intent of the parties. I think if one family is trying to raise their level in the caste system, then it could turn out to be really bad. BUT, if they're trying to arrange a marriage for their son or daughter with the interest of finding them a suitable and compatible partner, then I'm thinking those work out better.

#1387618Post 10 of 48

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;872997]To back up what Kamal said, my father always told me "you're not marrying the girl, you're marrying the family." Lots of truth in that one. [/QUOTE]

So true! My wife is spanish and I can say first hand that I married the family. But that was a good thing for me as my family is always so distant with each other. Even though her family lives thousands of miles away I know them better than I do my parents now.

As for the arraignment I won't go either way as that is a culture thing (for a lack of better words). Being married to a spanish girl has definitely opened my eyes to culture. I was never one to make fun of a different culture but after being married for 15 years it sure has opened my eyes to it.

#1387625Post 11 of 48

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[IMG]http://bolivianosglobales.com/ep/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/spanglish1.jpg[/IMG]

#1387634Post 12 of 48

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I actually know quite a few Hindi guys from work that are married to their cousins... it doesn't make it seem any less strange to us, but one of them told me it's something like 30% of all marriages

#1387639Post 13 of 48

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Kick that douche in the nuts who told you that. I cant believe more than 300 million Indians are married to their cousins. Absolute rubbish.

#1387643Post 14 of 48

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^ signature line quote about "get carter" is awesome

#1387661Post 15 of 48

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[QUOTE=Funky Dredd;873000]So true! My wife is spanish and I can say first hand that I married the family. But that was a good thing for me as my family is always so distant with each other. Even though her family lives thousands of miles away I know them better than I do my parents now.

As for the arraignment I won't go either way as that is a culture thing (for a lack of better words). Being married to a spanish girl has definitely opened my eyes to culture. I was never one to make fun of a different culture but after being married for 15 years it sure has opened my eyes to it.[/QUOTE]

AMEN! I just married into a russian family. I could have written the same exact thing and just exchanged spanish for russian and it would describe my experience thus far.

#1387665Post 16 of 48

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the idea of arranged marriage sounds odd to much of western culture because it's not how we're taught. i would immediately reject the idea and so it would never work out. but if an entire culture supports it, and your programmed to give it a chance, there's no reason it can't work.

so much contrast out there. if it works for them, great.

#1387679Post 17 of 48

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I want to see the pics or.....

#1387682Post 18 of 48

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:lol: pics are like the most important thing of this thread!

#1387699Post 19 of 48

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I was expecting pics - 'must do better next time' for Haziel

#1387710Post 20 of 48

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[QUOTE=Kamal;873023]Kick that douche in the nuts who told you that. I cant believe more than 300 million Indians are married to their cousins. Absolute rubbish.[/QUOTE]

Ok, fine... Maybe it was 30% of the guys at work :lol:

#1387716Post 21 of 48

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Last October I married into a pack of wild spiders. So far I haven't been eaten or had my blood sucked dry, but I can't get out of this fucking web. Trapped for life....

#1387717Post 22 of 48

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she mite look ok but have the personality of a clothes peg,wooden one mind ye.on the plus side,r thon marriages not paid for by the family,so at least if she turns out a weirdo uv had a gud day out for free,lol

#1387736Post 23 of 48

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its a whole different world, culture and education over there, they dont view cousins the way the west does, ive never been to india but i have lots of friends from there that i had met in dubai, def wanna visit esp after i read shantaram..

OK check this out, an indian guy came to work one day and he got sweets with him for everyone at work and he said that the reason was that him and his wife had just got a baby, so someone asked him how come you and ur wife got a baby and you haven't taken a vacation for over a year......... and he said my brothar iz there, he said that its a tradition that if the husband is not there its ok for the brother to sleep with his wife but here's the condition "only for child purposes"....i mean no offense to anyone and i know that India is full of deferent religions and beliefs and even languages so im not saying this is common but its a story i heard from more than a person..:shock:

#1387739Post 24 of 48

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[QUOTE=clintlove;873128]Last October I married into a pack of wild spiders. So far I haven't been eaten or had my blood sucked dry, but I can't get out of this fucking web. Trapped for life....[/QUOTE]

the wife's family not cool?

#1387755Post 25 of 48

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;873156]the wife's family not cool?[/QUOTE]

Haha, I was just kidding. Her family is awesome.

#1387765Post 26 of 48

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consanguineous, awesome. by 3rd gen, shouldn't have too many genetic probs.

#1387778Post 27 of 48

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[QUOTE=trick12;873152]OK check this out, an indian guy came to work one day and he got sweets with him for everyone at work and he said that the reason was that him and his wife had just got a baby, so someone asked him how come you and ur wife got a baby and you haven't taken a vacation for over a year......... and he said my brothar iz there, he said that its a tradition that if the husband is not there its ok for the brother to sleep with his wife but here's the condition "only for child purposes"....i mean no offense to anyone and i know that India is full of deferent religions and beliefs and even languages so im not saying this is common but its a story i heard from more than a person..:shock:[/QUOTE]

he was probably pulling your leg and looks like he did a great job. what's his name? if you can't name him, tell me what part of the country he's from because this is the first time I've heard something like this.

#1387782Post 28 of 48

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This is a topic I really don't know all that much about, so I really don't have much to add except, I think people should follow their hearts. If your friend feels in his heart and believes this is the right path for him, then who are we to judge. I use to work with a man who married his wife through an arranged marriage and I have never seen two people more perfect for each other. The way I see it , as long as he is happy, then that should be what matters.

#1387785Post 29 of 48

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My friend is currently getting arranged and loves the whole process due to its convenience (I'm talking about the newer style of arrange marriages which allow you to "try before you buy"). I also have another friend who is going through the same process but is down in the dumps as she keeps getting denied by every guy that her folks match her up with. I'm not against arranged marriages, as like conventional marriages, they definitely have the potential to work AND fail. However it's a shame that many of these arranged marriages are driven by undue family pressure.

I always thought that the aspect of cousin marriages was more accepted in pakistan cultures than indian per se.

#1387875Post 30 of 48

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[IMG]http://www.boingboing.net/beach_boys.jpg[/IMG]

cousins?

#1387887Post 31 of 48

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wtf?

#1387892Post 32 of 48

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[QUOTE=Kamal;873204]he was probably pulling your leg and looks like he did a great job. what's his name? if you can't name him, tell me what part of the country he's from because this is the first time I've heard something like this.[/QUOTE]

im just sharing a story i heard from someone, i didnt believe it at first but i heard it again from another, could well not be true tho

#1387980Post 33 of 48

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[QUOTE=Corven;873323][IMG]http://www.boingboing.net/beach_boys.jpg[/IMG]

cousins?[/QUOTE]

LOL, even funnier than the story by trick12.

#1387981Post 34 of 48

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I hear Japan does this sort marriages as well .

I read all of your answers very carefully and I'm just surprised that nobody has brought up a very important matter...SEX

I mean if someone chose her for me how the hell will I now if she is good in bed ... what if she wont let me fist pump her on my wedding night ??? wouldnt that suck ?.... either sex is not that important when marriages are arranged and it is overlooked , not discussed because its still a taboo ? or its just not that important at all .

Anyways I just want to add that in my eyes this seems like an ancient tradition , that it was used by people from many years ago that lived in small villages and didnt have a town to meet other people, only the family 10 more acres down south. Also between sons and daughters in Royal kingdoms it was done just as a sign of truce,

Like i said before my friend saw her pic and since she was cute he said yesss ,that was it . they gave him the chance to choose and see if he wanted to find a mate by himself or the father/mother could do it . He chose the latter one considereing that he never had a gf in his life .... I'm pretty sure the only pussy this guy has ever seen was the house cat :p

Oh yeah pics

[IMG]http://www.mopar1.us/ebay/ugly-girl.jpg[/IMG]

#1388008Post 35 of 48

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[QUOTE=trick12;873152]its a whole different world, culture and education over there, they dont view cousins the way the west does, ive never been to india but i have lots of friends from there that i had met in dubai, def wanna visit esp after i read shantaram..

OK check this out, an indian guy came to work one day and he got sweets with him for everyone at work and he said that the reason was that him and his wife had just got a baby, so someone asked him how come you and ur wife got a baby and you haven't taken a vacation for over a year......... and he said my brothar iz there, he said that its a tradition that if the husband is not there its ok for the brother to sleep with his wife but here's the condition "only for child purposes"....i mean no offense to anyone and i know that India is full of deferent religions and beliefs and even languages so im not saying this is common but its a story i heard from more than a person..:shock:[/QUOTE]

I actually have heard that this practise does occur in rural Kerala

#1388163Post 36 of 48

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where have you heard that from? any sources? I'm from a state a couple of states north and I've never heard it even from the numerous keralites I have known back home.

#1388204Post 37 of 48

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from wikipedia: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage[/url]

India Attitudes in India on cousin marriage vary sharply by region and culture. For Muslims it is acceptable and legal to marry a first cousin. But for Hindus it may be illegal under the 1955 Hindu Marriage Act, though the specific situation is more complex. The Hindu Marriage Act makes cousin marriage illegal for Hindus with the exception of marriages permitted by regional custom.[91] Practices of the small Christian minority are also location dependent: their cousin marriage rates are higher in southern states like Karnataka with high overall rates.[92]

Cousin marriage is proscribed and seen as incest for Hindus in north India. In fact it may even be unacceptable to marry within one's village or for two siblings to marry partners from the same village.[93] The northern kinship model prevails in the states of Rajasthan, Gujarat, Uttar Pradesh, Haryana, and Punjab. But in south India it is common for Hindu cross cousins to marry, with matrilateral cross-cousin (mother's brother's daughter) marriages being especially favored.[94] The southern kinship model prevails in the states of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, and Andhra Pradesh. South Indian women have been described as having more personal autonomy than North Indian women[95] and a kinship system leaving women closer to their families of origin and not based on patrilineal descent may explain both this and somewhat lower South Indian birth rates. In the exogamous north, a woman will not usually be in a position to help her family after marriage, since the house of her husband is likely to be far away. Female children are consequently less valued. In the South Indian system males are also likely to enter into arrangements that include males related by marriage, whereas in the north such relationships are more defined by blood ties.[96] But the higher the caste in south India, in general the closer the position of females is to that under the northern system.[97]

Practices in central India overall are closer to the northern model than the southern,[98] but differences exist from each. For example, in Mumbai, studies done in 1956 showed 7.7% of Hindus married to a second cousin or closer. By contrast, in the northern city of New Delhi only 0.1% of Hindus were married to a first cousin during the 1980s. At the other extreme, studies done in the South Indian province of Karnataka, which contains Bangalore, during that period show fully one third of Hindus married to a second cousin or closer.[99] Pre-2000 Madhya Pradesh, from which Chhattisgarh has now split, and Maharashtra, which contains Mumbai, are provinces that are intermediate in their kinship practices.

India's Muslim minority represents about 12% of its population (excluding Jammu and Kashmir) and has an overall rate of cousin marriage of 22% according to a 2000 report. Most Muslim cousin marriages were between first cousins, with the rate of first-cousin marriage being 20%. Muslim consanguinity in north India was typical, but below the overall northern statistic lies a sharply divided picture: Jammu and Kashmir is the only Indian state with a Muslim majority, with a Muslim consanguinity rate of 40%, while at the other extreme Haryana, though its population is 17% Muslim,[100] has a Muslim consanguinity rate of only 1%. This dichotomy may be a legacy of the partition of the sub-continent into India and Pakistan, when there was substantial Muslim migration to Pakistan from the eastern parts of the former unified state of Punjab. In south India by contrast the rates are fairly constant, except for the South Indian Malabar Muslims of Kerala (9%) who claim descent from Arab traders who settled permanently in India in the 8th century. Most Indian Muslims by contrast are the result of Hindu conversions to Islam in the 16th century or later. The lowest rate for a whole Indian region was in East India (15%). Consanguinity rates were generally stable across the four decades for which data exists, though second-cousin marriage appears to have been decreasing in favor of first-cousin marriage.[16]

#1388226Post 38 of 48

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yes but that article says nothing of a brother sleeping with his brother's wife.

#1388228Post 39 of 48

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^^^ it's also wikipedia, lol

#1388233Post 40 of 48

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i stopped short of saying that :lol:

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