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[QUOTE=andyrUK;802872]I think the pole is probably a fair reflection!!!

Involver 2 has helped Sasha feature a bit higher plus some high profile remixes!

John has not done enough musically to hold on to his status!

I think the pole is more than just about who is the best in the clubs

It's a reflection of the all round package! People that vote are not necessarily seeing the Dj's in clubs I don't believe![/QUOTE] A fair reflection of what??

Involver 2 is old.

John has done heaps of great stuff this year!!

It's as DQ said, the trance and house Djs are more mainstream , it's not a negative thing necessarily . The reactions of most people here just reflect the style of music that the majority like best. Nothing wrong with that either. Just different tastes. :)

I think you are kidding yourself if you don't believe marketing has an effect though :lol: All of a sudden all those Djs whose mailing lists I am on thought I was worth contacting :lol:

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[QUOTE=DIDI;803048]A I think you are kidding yourself if you don't believe marketing has an effect though :lol: All of a sudden all those Djs whose mailing lists I am on thought I was worth contacting :lol:[/QUOTE]

Like I said before I don't agree with the people who think that the reason these DJ's are getting voted for is because of marketing companies. It doesn't matter how much you market a product if people don't like it its going to fail. They are also assuming that people can't formulate rational thought as to whether they actually like something or not. Instead they like to believe this people are swayed by some marketing mumbo jumbo, they saw a couple of YouTube videos and read a few blogs or magazine reviews. If Digweed employed a marketing company do you really think he would score much higher in the poll next year. I would be interested to know what these companies would do to improve his profile and his score. Not much I think. Has anyone here voted for a DJ because they got spammed. No I don't think so. The only mailing lists I'm on I'm on because I signed up to them. Marketing companies mite get you exposure but Perception Without Awareness that's a tall order.

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I think there is definitely an effect or else why would they all do it ?? You are right about products people don't like failing. But if you are made aware of a Dj you like at the right time you are more likely to vote for them.

I'm amazed that you don't seem to think that Digweed doesn't employ if not a marketing company , at the very least people to help him market himself :lol: It would be part of his whole management strategy! Although he may not need it, he does a pretty good job of marketing himself. And all power to him !! Why have all this talent and not spread the word !! :D

I didn't call it spam because they are sites I have signed up to. What I did say that is that I never hear from them unless they either want me to vote for them, or buy something :lol:

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[QUOTE=simonr;802955]Ha ha ... there was me having visions of you surrounded by empty bottles of Cristal in the vip Mo ![/QUOTE]

Haha...they make me sick for some reason !! it's more like me on chill out room surrounded by empty bottles of Stella :)

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For how many years has this poll been going? I'm curious about the last time when either/both of Sasha & Digweed were out of the top 10? (I haven't been following the discussion here; apologies if this has already been talked about ;)) It would definitely seem like a greater proportion of trance-lovers have been buying the magazine, anyway, if we have the likes of Bobina (with all due respect, who?) ahead of Diggy.

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[QUOTE=Hydrosonic;803138]For how many years has this poll been going? I'm curious about the last time when either/both of Sasha & Digweed were out of the top 10? (I haven't been following the discussion here; apologies if this has already been talked about ;)) It would definitely seem like a greater proportion of trance-lovers have been buying the magazine, anyway, if we have the likes of Bobina (with all due respect, who?) ahead of Diggy.[/QUOTE]

Back in the late 90s early 00s they were on top (probably a list somewhere if u google it) Basically when Progressive House was thee sound - they were on top of the list

But now thats gone and its Pop trance at the top which means Armin and co. are on top of the dj mag list

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Gt2D5mbrU[/YOUTUBE]

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[QUOTE=Hydrosonic;803138] It would definitely seem like a greater proportion of trance-lovers have been buying the magazine, anyway, if we have the likes of Bobina (with all due respect, who?) ahead of Diggy.[/QUOTE]

This poll far outweighs the readership of the magazine. To assume that the readership of the magazine gives a good account of what the poll indicates, indicates that you have never picked up a copy of the magazine. You just have to look at the covermount Cd's to make a rational assessment of their readership without actually looking inside.

[URL]http://www.discogs.com/label/DJ+Magazine?sort=date%2Casc[/URL]

Hard On trance all the way:what

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[QUOTE=chunky;803143]This poll far outweighs the readership of the magazine. To assume that the readership of the magazine gives a good account of what the poll indicates, indicates that you have never picked up a copy of the magazine. You just have to look at the covermount Cd's to make a rational assessment of their readership without actually looking inside.

[URL]http://www.discogs.com/label/DJ+Magazine?sort=date%2Casc[/URL]

Hard On trance all the way:what[/QUOTE] Good point :) The last time I bought DJ Mag, or any music magazine for that matter, was last August for Digweed's covermount CD. So yeah, pretty much disregard what I've said ;)

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[QUOTE=DIDI;803073]

I'm amazed that you don't seem to think that Digweed doesn't employ if not a marketing company , at the very least people to help him market himself :lol: It would be part of his whole management strategy! Although he may not need it, he does a pretty good job of marketing himself. And all power to him !! Why have all this talent and not spread the word !! :D [/QUOTE]

I never really gave it much thought as to wether Digweed employed a marketing company. Yes it could be part of his managment stratagy but if he has, they have failed him this year because he dropped 8 places down the chart.

I would be intreasted to know what David Guetta's marketing people did to fool people into making irrational dissisons the Digweeds marketing people didnt. Its almost like people like to insunate that they cheated in some way.

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[QUOTE=chunky;803177]I never really gave it much thought as to wether Digweed employed a marketing company. Yes it could be part of his managment stratagy but if he has, they have failed him this year because he dropped 8 places down the chart.

I would be intreasted to know what David Guetta's marketing people did to fool people into making irrational dissisons the Digweeds marketing people didnt. Its almost like people like to insunate that they cheated in some way.[/QUOTE]

I think its obvious that someone whos on the UK top 10, making tracks with Akon and Kelly Rowland, is gonna have a lot more exposure than someone like John Digweed and therefore push themselves higher up the list?

Then again the dj mag list is probably more aimed at the more "non-chart" scene, or maybe not, i dunno :what

I remember in previous years in the run up to voting for the top 100, Digweed used to say at the end of his show not to forget to vote, did he do that this year???

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Finally got round to actually checking out the results. Clearly I am completely out of touch because that is the worst top 100 I've ever seen.

I mean, each to their own and it would be boring if we all liked the same things, but I am just stunned by how bad that selection is. I can see why Mr C asked people not bother voting for him. What a joke and what a waste of time!

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[QUOTE=evo7;803183]I think its obvious that someone whos on the UK top 10, making tracks with Akon and Kelly Rowland, is gonna have a lot more exposure than someone like John Digweed and therefore push themselves higher up the list? [/QUOTE]

Yeah that's what I've been getting at. I don't think its to do with marketing teams or the belief that they can sway someone opinion as to liking something that they don't like.

yeah Digweed did mention the poll on his show

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[QUOTE=ENNISELLIS;803185] I can see why Mr C asked people not bother voting for him. What a joke and what a waste of time![/QUOTE]

I think some DJ's really do dance music fans a real disservice with remarks like Mr C's, Lee Burridge made a similar one a few years back. It seems to me that they seem to think fans vote for whoever spams them the most and not who the fans actually like. Yes DJ's post links to the poll on their sites and canvas in different ways but that's the same with most polls. Tiesto told people not to vote for him last year.

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tiesto's even copying Mr C! :lol:

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[QUOTE=Dhar_2;803214]tiesto's even copying Mr C! :lol:[/QUOTE]

No C is copying Tiesto:lol:

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[QUOTE=chunky;803177]I never really gave it much thought as to wether Digweed employed a marketing company. Yes it could be part of his managment stratagy but if he has, they have failed him this year because he dropped 8 places down the chart.

I would be intreasted to know what David Guetta's marketing people did to fool people into making irrational dissisons the Digweeds marketing people didnt. Its almost like people like to insunate that they cheated in some way.[/QUOTE] Now David Guetta is a perfect example of why this poll makes absolutely no sense at all . We as sensible people will never understand it :lol: Is he more mainstream?? Because he has barely touched my consciousness.

I think Digweed's team have done a sterling job to keep him this high in a poll which definitely doesn't favour our sort of music. Hmm, that sounds a little elitist doesn't it. Well tough, cos that's the way I feel !! :lol:

Btw I didn't consider that there was cheating going on, we are just not that mainstream, which is probably a good thing. I think we are incredibly lucky to be able to really appreciate the more complex music .I think I have said this before but to most people music is the background to their life, to us it's like breathing .

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DJ Mag top 100 has definitely become a chart of popularity for [B]trance[/B] djs and i doubt, any house dj takes it seriously. Resident Advisor poll will be much more interesting for us.

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[QUOTE=DIDI;803263]Now David Guetta is a perfect example of why this poll makes absolutely no sense at all . We as sensible people will never understand it :lol: Is he more mainstream?? Because he has barely touched my consciousness. .[/QUOTE]

Maybe he hasn't touched your conciousness [B]because [/B]he is so mainstream? All i've heard from him has sounded like cheese.

Remember there will be a lot of voters who haven't heard of Hernan. I know it sounds mad to us people but if you're 17 and into Tiesto then you might not have.

When i was 17 i was into all sorts of weird electronicness and a bit of Northern Soul which, in time, led me towards (illegal) raves and then to clubs. (i thought i liked my music the harder the better, then i heard Sasha) If you asked me then who my favourite dj was i'd probably have said Grooverider. I think a good percentage of people who voted will go on to like different things in time, many will move away from dance music altogether. Some will come to this board as they explore differently labelled forms of essentially the same thing. As far as i'm concerned though, trance is just another form of techno and if the people who like it go out and have a good time then i don't really care about much else.

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^^^ All true !! Although the closest I came to northern soul, and illegal raves was reading "Last night a Dj Saved My Life " :)

Sounds like I should be grateful that Davis Guetta hasn't touched my consciousness :lol:

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A bit of a guilty admission but i've always quite liked this tune, cheesey or not

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlS15uk4uI[/YOUTUBE]

here's one for the soulboys (and girls) then.

A very early form of going out and getting off it all night to music with magic in it - it's all the fucking same really

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2NySUcbv3w[/YOUTUBE]

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I can tell you clubs are increasingly and unfortunatly paying more attention to this poll and base their booking fee on he ranking of the DJ.

I'm not saying Digweed is going to be out of business but the more he drops year on year the less bookings he will receive especially at big party venues.

Also Digweed has to take some of the blame for his demise with the quality of tunes he's played over the past couple of years.

Sasha, i'm a bit surprised about though because I still think he's very consistent and sounds excellent.

It'll be interesting to see if John and Sasha reunite next year for a new tour to boost their careers again.

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;803359]A bit of a guilty admission but i've always quite liked this tune, cheesey or not

[YOUTUBE]AzlS15uk4uI[/YOUTUBE] [/QUOTE]

Yeah I didn't mind that tune either. Funny enough that club holds 10,000 people there aren't many DJ's that can fill it. I wounder how many people in there where not really going nuts having a good time but had been cheated into going there because of a great marketing campaign.:what

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;803359]

A very early form of going out and getting off it all night to music with magic in it - it's all the fucking same really

[YOUTUBE]Y2NySUcbv3w[/YOUTUBE][/QUOTE]

Great tune, Soft Cell covered it a few years later. A work mate of mine used to go to the Wigan Casino back in 70's

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[QUOTE=chunky;803486]Yeah I didn't mind that tune either. Funny enough that club holds 10,000 people there aren't many DJ's that can fill it. I wonder how many people in there where not really going nuts having a good time but had been cheated into going there because of a great marketing campaign.:what[/QUOTE] I actually quite liked it!! As part of a set I would really enjoy it. But I need a little more depth before I go nuts :lol:

Hmm I think we may have a very different view on what marketing is. I see it as a pretty essential part of doing business , music or otherwise. Putting your product out there for people to see or hear. Whilst I know some marketing campaigns are less than forthcoming, I don't think of the majority as cheating at all. Keeping things in Digweed terms :lol: , the Transitions radio is a good example of the way I see marketing. Good marketing is win/win. They keep their name and product in front of us, we get great music free !!

Btw Sono, A lot of us haven't heard about the demise of Digweed. :lol:

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doesn't look surprising to me..i'm just glad my fav dj isn't on top of the list cause i'm not your average listener....kapeesh?

want a big step to the list? you just have to make a popular vocal track. just don't let Armin mix it or he'll get the credit. :D

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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[QUOTE=sono;803447]I can tell you clubs are increasingly and unfortunatly paying more attention to this poll and base their booking fee on he ranking of the DJ.

I'm not saying Digweed is going to be out of business but the more he drops year on year the less bookings he will receive especially at big party venues.

Also Digweed has to take some of the blame for his demise with the quality of tunes he's played over the past couple of years.

Sasha, i'm a bit surprised about though because I still think he's very consistent and sounds excellent.

It'll be interesting to see if John and Sasha reunite next year for a new tour to boost their careers again.[/QUOTE]

Digweed's demise??? you mean his drop in the dj mag poll i think........

take the trance heads out of the poll and then see where he is

demise lol

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^^ yeah soon you will see him in the mall begging for gigs. NEED FOOD AND HAIR CONDITIONER. PLEASE BOOK ME! ;)

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[QUOTE=sono;803447] I can tell you clubs are increasingly and unfortunatly paying more attention to this poll and base their booking fee on he ranking of the DJ.

I'm not saying Digweed is going to be out of business but the more he drops year on year the less bookings he will receive especially at big party venues. [/QUOTE] How can you believe that big party venues base their bookings on each year's DJ Mag's Top 100 Poll?

[QUOTE=sono;803447] [I]Also Digweed has to take some of the blame for his demise with the quality of tunes he's played over the past couple of years.[/I][/QUOTE] Such comments FAIL big time in this forum :evil::evil::evil:

[QUOTE=sono;803447] It'll be interesting to see if John and Sasha reunite next year for a new tour to boost their careers again. [/QUOTE]

What are you talking about anyway?

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[QUOTE=TomTom;803696]^^ yeah soon you will see him in the mall begging for gigs. NEED FOOD AND HAIR CONDITIONER. PLEASE BOOK ME! ;)[/QUOTE]

:CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp::CrackUp:

Sono you have given generously to this thread :lol:

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how in the fuck is danny howells 111??? I mean people, COME OOOOOOOOON!!!!! These polls are a bigger waste of time than advertising coke as if it is something new and exciting

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