[ms] · Est. May 2002
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[quote=Homegrove;746602]I miss his mixing from the vinyl days... He still has the ear for good tunes and can obviously program a set but I miss his technical skills.[/quote]
Me too.... vinyl mixing is so authentic and pure... not every dj can perfect the art.
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^^In total agreement. Prefer him when mixing vinyl. That Amsterdam mix was pure class.
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Some Dj's seem to prefer the hands on element of vinyl, which explains why some have stuck with CDJ's rather than take the laptop route.
Diggers seemed to ditch Traktor after just a few tries, interestingly I haven't seen him explain why - assume he just didn't feel comfortable.
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[quote=Homegrove;746602]I miss his mixing from the vinyl days... The Ableton-mixing is just so boring, he used to be amazing with the mixer. Just listen to the set from Amsterdam in December 2001 where he played at Sander Kleinenberg's party... The mixing is just incredible and totally unique, he had total thing of his own.
He still has the ear for good tunes and can obviously program a set but I miss his technical skills.[/quote]
agree 100%. woudl love to see him still throw down soem vinly like howells does all the time.
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^^^ Seriously.. what a waste for all the good vinyl just sitting around :D
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Global Underground 009 was all class... in comparison to a Romanian mix of his...no comparison whatsoever...much prefer the more melodic sounds...
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[quote=chuckc;747041]agree 100%. woudl love to see him still throw down soem vinly like howells does all the time.[/quote]
imo howells > sasha!
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[quote=Dhar_2;747304]imo howells > sasha![/quote]
yup - i think so too :roll:
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It doesn't have to be vinyl, I'd prefer him on the CDJs over Ableton.
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[quote=bobjuice;747331]yup - i think so too :roll:[/quote]
are the rolly eyes meant to be in agreement or in contradiction? :what
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[quote=Dhar_2;747368]are the rolly eyes meant to be in agreement or in contradiction? :what[/quote]
def agreement
though howells v hernan i'm not sure i could choose between:roll::roll:
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its a toughy!
i've personally gone off hernan, buts probably beacuse of the lack of new material from him!
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blasphemy
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[quote=feather;745521]Do people today go out to lose themselves in music like when I started on the scene, or do people go out, drink to get drunk, and lose themselves away from their shit lives and the shit happening around them?[/quote]
a little off topic with what I'm about to say but that is actually a very good point you bring up. It is something I personally wondered about because of the amount I tend to party whenever I get the opportunity. I don't know if I consider it borderline ridiculous but even just a weekend of heavy drinking with my buddies - I feel like shit the next day (not from being hungover but from a guilty perspective feeling wtf was that really needed).
It wasn't so bad last year when my wife was overseas for a few months and I partied like a caged animal freed from a lifelong imprisonment. But this time this feeling of overdoing it is getting worse. Maybe this issue needs a new thread.
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[quote=Kamal;747419] It wasn't so bad last year when my wife was overseas for a few months and I partied like a caged animal freed from a lifelong imprisonment. But this time this feeling of overdoing it is getting worse. Maybe this issue needs a new thread.[/quote]
I'm like that everytime mine go's away
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[quote=chunky;747424]I'm like that everytime mine go's away[/quote]
yea but the question is do you feel shit about doing it?
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[quote=Kamal;747427]yea but the question is do you feel shit about doing it?[/quote]
I would do but I'm normally on a tight leash when shes here, I can't wait to party a bit. Especially having a child to look after as well. I don't get much time on my own.
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Funny to read that almost everybody prefers Sasha on the wheels of steel (may this be turntables or cdj's, that doesn't matter) playing tracks with good melody's instead of the minimal and tech stuff. There is a very ver very little chance that Sasha is watching this thread. I hope this will change his mind if he does.
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old sasha without a doubt.
most dj's have a shitty ear for mnml, tech house, progno/tripno/techno, glitch etc. (imo of course)
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[quote=chunky;747424]I'm like that everytime mine go's away[/quote]
But you're usually so sedate, sober and well behaved every time I see you out :lol:
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just imagine what we'd do if the universe left us to ourselves.......
uh...wait dont do that!
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[B]SASHA[/B]x6,611,587,198 [U][I]and counting[/I][/U]
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^^ huh ?
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^Some serious drug use on ms...nothing new:lol:
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[quote=Homegrove;746602]I miss his mixing from the vinyl days... The Ableton-mixing is just so boring, he used to be amazing with the mixer. Just listen to the set from Amsterdam in December 2001 where he played at Sander Kleinenberg's party... The mixing is just incredible and totally unique, he had total thing of his own.
He still has the ear for good tunes and can obviously program a set but I miss his technical skills.[/quote]
Nail on Head Hannu.
I'm not even going to bother seeing him and Diggers this weekend, as I know I'll be ultimately disappointed, because it isn't 1992-1996! ;)
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I saw Sasha last year twice, once on Corfu island in Greece, while being at the vacations there, saw a poster on the street that hes playing the club called "Romeo & Julliete" or something.. and i bought the ticket immediately cuz i didnt hear him for 3 years til that moment.... i was waiting for that night for 5 days being there, and i dont know if i was drunk on cheap coctails or what, but it reminded me of old days, no matter he played a lot of new minimalised tracks and shi* ..ive had a feeling of that old times, adoring Sasha for who he is - a great producer and a GREAT dj! ..but then, less than 10 days later, i saw him again playing on the festival in Belgrade, Serbia.. my country.... and half of the party i was sitting on the stairs of the stadium he was playing at, feeling the need to cry cuz he sucked big time! ..good feeling's gone, there's nothing left of Sasha i adored back in 90s and early 00s...... its all gone Sasha! :( boring sounds, dull people jumping, no contact with audience just staring at his ableton (hate it!) .. strange noises that are everything but not Sasha i loved and adored and who made me fall in love with progressive........... i went home homesick for the old years and i gave the word to myself that im not gonna hear him soon again after that debacle. Completely two different parties, completely two different sets in just 10 days.... dont know if ppl arranging the parties, club owners or someone.. pays them to play this/that way so they do it different ways in that short time or it was his moodswinging, but it was completely different!
Hes playing b2b Digweed this year on Exit festival in my country... but i think im gonna miss it.. and hearing this duo live was my biggest tennage wish, thought it will never happen....... and here it is now, in front of my eyes for some days more than a month and i have no wiish to see/hear that.. dunno................... :unsure:
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Wow, that doesn't sound good. I'm a bit affraid to see him and Diggers playing B2B @ Tomorrowland in July too. It really sounds strange I have to say. I mean, how the f*ck can you adore a dj in one direction while you're unsure of his set at the other direction.
It feels a bit like I'm affraid to loose someone I believe in. Sasha is also for me the person who showed me the beautifull world of progressive, and I played his gigs over 1000 times. Bought all his cd's, dvd's and ep's in the last years, and started to become a fan.
Today it looks like he's split up in two persons. Compare it with the mixes Sasha & Diggers @ Yacht Party WMC 09 and Sasha & Diggers @ Club Glow Washington DC 08. Love the first one while I hate the second one. It's just weird.
The worst thing I can imagine is that his set @ Tomorrowland will be very very minimal. So minimal that my friends are getting bored to death and starting to moan about leaving the area. I think it will feel like a big collapse.
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[quote=fatalfelix;750181] It feels a bit like I'm affraid to loose someone I believe in. [/quote]
This is the exact reason why i made that promise of mine, not seeing Sasha live any time soon cuz if that expirience from last August would repeat, i think i'd lose the whole picture of his i have in my head and heart and still means a lot to me anytime i reach it's corners. For now, i still have these parts left.. remembering that Corfu party bringing the old feeling back and trying to erase what happened after that, remembering his set on Exit festival on 2005th - the best fu*kin party i've ever been!!!!! ..and also, i sincerely avoid downloading his latest sets cuz i know (and see it in the tracklists) what sound i'm gonna hear in there and that i'm not gonna like it... so... he's now something like "dont touch.. leave it that way" thing, or otherwise it might be broken completely.
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[quote=TitianWarrior;750156]Nail on Head Hannu.
I'm not even going to bother seeing him and Diggers this weekend, as I know I'll be ultimately disappointed, because it isn't 1992-1996! ;)[/quote]
Thank goodness it's not 1992 - 1996 !
You are 13-17 years behind the times - the music evolves, so I love seeing and hearing what's being played + they will probably throw in a few classics.
Can't believe you'd pass up the chance when they're playing near you - as they rarely play b2b in Uk clubs any more.
Are you seriously saying you don't enjoy any of their sets post 1996 ?
You're missing even out NE 1-3 and Communicate, let alone JJJ, Fall Tour 2001, Delta Heavy, Southfest and Bonnaroo !
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[quote=simonr;750267]Thank goodness it's not 1992 - 1996 !
You are 13-17 years behind the times - the music evolves, so I love seeing and hearing what's being played + they will probably throw in a few classics.
Can't believe you'd pass up the chance when they're playing near you - as they rarely play b2b in Uk clubs any more.
Are you seriously saying you don't enjoy any of their sets post 1996 ?
You're missing even out NE 1-3 and Communicate, let alone JJJ, Fall Tour 2001, Delta Heavy, Southfest and Bonnaroo ![/quote]
You've read FAR too much into what I wrote. Of course I have all the NE albums, loads of both their sets (including all the ones you mentioned). I am not 13-17 years behind the times, and to make that statement from one comment I made is both presumptious and actually quite insulting. I've been involved in the House scene since 1990, and have been on more mental nights out that most, trust me. I have met some truly great DJs and characters (Marshall Jefferson, all the Back to Basics lot, John Marsh, Huggy, Harvey, Charlie Chester amongst others). I still regularly go out clubbing, and this year I've fully embraced Traktor Pro. To say I'm behind the times is a joke.
My point was that along with some other people, I used to find Sasha more entertaining when he mixed using more "traditional methods". The are 2 reasons I won't be going this weekend to see him and digweed:
Most of my friends don't like that kind of music, and the ones that do are away this weekend. The other reason is that the day before they are playing, a friend of mine is having an all day (and most of the night) party, and I will be wasted from that. I know that come Sunday evening I'll be no way in the mood for another all nighter.
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^^ Wansn't being presumptious - I was questioning your reasoning off the details you posted. From your subsequent post there's more to it than the it's not as good as the old days chestnut.
Out of interest, when was the last time you caught Sasha, Digweed or both live in recent years ?
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the last time I saw Sasha was at his "surprise" set at Notting Hill Carnival (Sancho Panza Soundsystem) in around 2001 (I think!), he finished with Mike Koglin - The Silence (1st time I or pretty much anyone else had heard it). Oh and the same place the next year. Both were fantastic but the 1st one was better, simply because it was completely unannounced. Digweed I've only ever seen once back in 1995! Unfortunately most of my mates who still go out clubbing (I'm 36) are not a fan of this kind of stuff. Me and a mate of mine still go on the odd mission (Hybrid, Anthony Pappa, Adam freeland etc.), but he's away this weekend. Plus this party will be brill.
If I'm honest, if there was anyone up for it, I would have gone to see them this weekend, but I'll be completely wasted from the night before. It's a shame because I'd like to see them play. I suppose part of the mystique has gone for me due to the digital age. I used to mix on turntables, and whilst decent and able to hold my own at any party, I was never in Sasha's league (funnily enough!). Now I've got into using Traktor, and the records are no longer impossible to find, it's not such a big deal. Plus there's a big difference dragging yourself out on a (maybe) wet Leeds Sunday night, to going out for another night at something like Sonar! :)
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[quote=TitianWarrior;750725]the last time I saw Sasha was at his "surprise" set at Notting Hill Carnival (Sancho Panza Soundsystem) in around 2001 (I think!), he finished with Mike Koglin - The Silence (1st time I or pretty much anyone else had heard it). [/quote]
I think most people had herd Mike Koglin The Silence in 1998
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[quote=chunky;750731]I think most people had herd Mike Koglin The Silence in 1998[/quote] :D
that's me with my dates wrong then! it was a long time ago, and I've done a lot since then!
Blimey, that means it's been over 10 years!
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^Fucking hell I thought I didn't get out much
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you think this is mostly a debate about the music rather than purely his skills as a dj? because my favorite period is definately '97-'99. i stopped listening to sasha all the time around 2000 when the music for me got boring. i listen to him again now but my favorite is still from back then so maybe it's not him, it's you.
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If I'm honest, if there was anyone up for it, I would have gone to see them this weekend, but I'll be completely wasted from the night before. It's a shame because I'd like to see them play. I suppose part of the mystique has gone for me due to the digital age. I used to mix on turntables, and whilst decent and able to hold my own at any party, I was never in Sasha's league (funnily enough!). Now I've got into using Traktor, and the records are no longer impossible to find, it's not such a big deal. Plus there's a big difference dragging yourself out on a (maybe) wet Leeds Sunday night, to going out for another night at something like Sonar! :)[/quote]
If you have a change of heart PM me .. Myself and Domnal are going, happy to meet for a pint in Leeds 1st and then travel together to the venue ;)
They are on at 12.00 which is a reasonable time. Plus you'll be able to catch what JD is doing these days.
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[quote=chunky;750736]^Fucking hell I thought I didn't get out much[/quote]
You do your fair share Chris :lol:
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for me nothing will ever come close to the first time i heard ibiza disk 1. dont get me wrong i love some of his newer stuff as well but old sasha all the way.
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Sorry to sound like an Angry Boy Child....but a lot of you ppl are really bitching here...missing the good old days and bla bla. Music evolves and people change if you were with a girl for like 15 years the likelyhood would be pretty big that you get borred of her and want something new or at least that you just go separate ways as you devlop... and now your talking about a dj??? tastes in music change, you may not like what he is playing now but others do...I am sure there is someone out there who is playing your dream song/set right now and you don't even know it... my point is that all of you saying Sasha lost his shit need to get out there and fall in love with a different dj and stop spoiling it for those who like it as it is...
This happens everywhere in all spheres of life a bunch of OLD motherfuckers talking about how it used to be .... well it USED to be but it ISN't anymore. Get over it.
p.s. If anyone gets insulted its because you identified with the text not because it was aimed at you. Peace