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Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

59 durable postsStarted 2009-01-26Latest 2009-01-29
#1156702Post 41 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

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If these breast feeding women took a step back and tried to understand where Facebook is in the bigger picture of the internet, as opposed to living in their own lactating world and crying foul over every small thing that infringes upon their precious beliefs, they'll see how juvenile this is. It's such a typical reaction to think everything revolves around 'me.' Someone did this to 'me,' someone is against what 'I' stand for. The world is against 'me.' Hello, the world is a lot bigger than a pair of lactating tits.

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Awesome.

But tell me more about this "lactating world" I am intrigued. :)

#1156705Post 42 of 59

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[QUOTE=feather;703200]Ultimately Facebook exists on the internet. It's very existence hinges on the fact that it connects people of all races and cultures across geographical boundaries through the internet. When it sets its no nudity policy, it has to cater to the world, not just America or Australia or Asia. Naturally it caters its policies to the lowest denominator, and this is not even enforced until someone else flags the pictures or posts.

So someone found the pictures offensive, Facebook exercised its user agreement and removed those pictures. How difficult is that to understand? Facebook performed a service based on someone else's feedback, so why call out Facebook for being the executioner? It's that someone else who's the issue.

And secondly, Facebook is privately owned. Nobody pays them or has shares in them. Facebook doesn't have to answer to anybody. We use Facebook services as a privilege bestowed upon us when we register, but these privileges can be restricted or removed anytime. Facebook doesn't owe anything to anyone. [QUOTE]This is all true and balanced and nobody has denied that. But anyone has the right to protest against any private or public entity they like! Whether I agree with their protest. I support that right of protest[/QUOTE]

If these breast feeding women took a step back and tried to understand where Facebook is in the bigger picture of the internet, as opposed to living in their own lactating world and crying foul over every small thing that infringes upon their precious beliefs, they'll see how juvenile this is. It's such a typical reaction to think everything revolves around 'me.' Someone did this to 'me,' someone is against what 'I' stand for. The world is against 'me.' Hello, the world is a lot bigger than a pair of lactating tits. [QUOTE]This is highly offensive. Of course there is more and I'm sure everyone is living it, but the discussion was about breast feeding. You might like to run that by three hills as well. he would probably be able to tell you that when a women is breast feeding the lactating tits are a a huge part of a women's life. In fact it you read his post he made that pretty clear.!! What started as a debate on what Face book could or could not do has turned, in some cases, to an attack on breast feeding women. [/QUOTE] Which brings me to the comment about them being fanatics. Once you take up a cause, you run the risk of feeling justified and self righteous, you run the risk of feeling marginalised or entertain a polarised point of view which turns into a case of you're either with us, or against us. You project your own beliefs and issues onto everything that happens to you, as though everything is personally relevant.[/QUOTE] Well, you are actually describing the attitude YOU are projecting at the moment, labelling people fanatics because YOU don't agree .

Breast feeding is a a wonderful thing, which because of the lives we lead has actually become increasingly difficult. There is the other side of the coin to the coin, well expressed in this thread, that it is something a bit grubby , not to be undertaken in public areas. Even although personally I would not want to breastfeed in public, I am amazed that it is viewed this way.

Miroslav, women CAN"T breast feed anywhere they like, or want. . If you actually look at history, for a normal human function, it has always been a major social problem for women one way or the other. Which makes the original issue all the more interesting.

BTW. Back to the issue!! I don't actually agree with this protest but I do understand it, . Just as I understand that Facebook has the right to take down anything off it's own site .

Well Ok maybe don't run it past Threehills:(

#1156706Post 43 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Hey that's not true, I called them fanatics because of their strongly held beliefs with no quarter for compromise, and their myopic view and taking everything personally.

Which is what dictionary.com describes as

[quote][B]fa·nat·ic[/B] n. A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause. [/quote]:lol:

#1156707Post 44 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

[QUOTE=feather;703222]Hey that's not true, I called them fanatics because of their strongly held beliefs with no quarter for compromise, and their myopic view and taking everything personally.

Which is what dictionary.com describes as

:lol:[/QUOTE] You don't have enough evidence to uphold that dictionary definition. You don't know what their other views may be or whether they are taking it personally or standing up for strongly held personal views! Two different things and I respect standing up for strongly held personal views!

My issue is probably the small minded people who reported these pics. Probably the ones that used to wank over bare breasts in National Geographic !! :lol:

#1156709Post 45 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Well from my point of view, what Facebook did was impartial. [quote] Facebook spokesman Barry Schnitt said the company's guidelines regarding exposed flesh allow most breast-feeding photos. However, Facebook draws the line at a visible nipple or areola, he said. Facebook also nixes pictures showing the gluteal cleft.Facebook doesn't generally go looking for nudity, but it does respond quickly when someone on the site flags another person's photo as inappropriate. Schnitt said the policies were instituted years ago, when Facebook was much smaller, but they reflect common practices on mainstream Web sites. [/quote]But the reaction it has caused, is certainly not impartial.

I'm just quoting from the msnbc.com article: [quote] Roman responded by starting a Facebook group called "Hey, Facebook, breast-feeding is not obscene!"[/quote][quote]"I think it's time we all get over this notion that women's breasts are dangerous and harmful for children to see," she said. So she organized a Facebook protest last weekend against the site's policies, which she believes are arbitrarily enforced and discriminate against women.[/quote][quote]At Facebook's headquarters in Palo Alto, California, 23-year-old mom Heather Farley, who was visiting from her home in Provo, Utah, led a real-world nurse-in to complement the online event.About 10 women showed up to breast-feed their babies outside the front door, drawing attention from local media if not Facebook employees, who were scarce on that Saturday after Christmas. [/quote]Which brings me back to my point that what Facebook did was not personal nor anti-breastfeeding at all. These women chose to turn that into a cause because they react personally to what happened.

We have two different agendas here: Facebook admisnistering a no nudity policy, and these women saying Facebook should get over breast feeding and not 'discriminate' women.

Facebook isn't discriminating women. It's protecting a convivial environment that has to take into account people with different sensitibilities, some of whom find any hint of flesh an affront.

What Facebook did is no different from any form of moderation that takes place on forum boards like MS, except Facebook has to widen its scope to include more people when handling such issues.

I'm not anti-breastfeeding and I'm certainly not anti-tits, but this is simply an arbirtary decision that Facebook had the right to execute, taken out of context, and used as a flag for these people to rally against.

#1156713Post 46 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

:roll::roll::roll:You are preaching to the converted here, I don't anyone has said that Facebook couldn't do what they did, or that they didn't have the right to do it.

That was the original issue but I guess there wasn't enough to argue about. :)

#1156714Post 47 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Well I'm just substantiating my calling them fanatics :lol:

#1156720Post 48 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

That still doesn't make them fit your dictionary definition ! Although it was good to get some more information ! Thank you :D

It makes them what I described, people standing up for strongly held personal views. And if you can't have strongly held views on your own tits what can you have ?? :lol:

#1156722Post 49 of 59

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Have to concur to that, I have strongly held personal views on all tits in general 8)

#1156731Post 50 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

as far as I'm personally concerned...women are free to expose their breast anytime, anywhere for pretty much any reason. Pictures are also accepted.

#1156784Post 51 of 59

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^ :roflmao:

for some reason people are offended by this!

????

i dont get it, especially when its for a natural cause!

#1157011Post 52 of 59

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[IMG]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/VHNIN/ManTits.jpg[/IMG]

#1157024Post 53 of 59

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[quote=DIDI;703238]That still doesn't make them fit your dictionary definition ! Although it was good to get some more information ! Thank you :D

It makes them what I described, [B]people standing up for strongly held personal views. And if you can't have strongly held views on your own tits what can you have[/B] ?? :lol:[/quote]

this is all fine and dandy

whats not fine and dandy is when you start forcing you're beliefs upon other people and "condemning" them for not thinking/believing the way you think/believe

#1157052Post 54 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

I wonder what would al bundy think about this thread

noooooo ma'am!! :twisted:

#1157093Post 55 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

[QUOTE=Steve Graham;703569]this is all fine and dandy

whats not fine and dandy is when you start forcing you're beliefs upon other people and "condemning" them for not thinking/believing the way you think/believe[/QUOTE] We all agree with that ! Unfortunately it's the way of the world that we all disagree on where spreading information becomes forcing your beliefs on other people :D

#1157192Post 56 of 59

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

[quote=Haziel;703555][IMG]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/VHNIN/ManTits.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

:Hurl:

#1157232Post 57 of 59

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[quote=DIDI;703654]We all agree with that ! Unfortunately it's the way of the world that we all disagree on where [B]spreading information becomes forcing your beliefs on other people[/B] :D[/quote]

its a fine line ;)

#1157307Post 58 of 59

Breastbook Facefeeding Dispute

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#1157310Post 59 of 59

Re: Breastbook Facefeeding Dispute

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