I donno if you ever found yourself in the situation where you have to clean up the digital info you receive. When I say infos I mean: Software/Music/Pix/Articles etc etc....that is stored onto the pc.

Since this weekend seems to be a calm one over here, i.e. no gigs no partying, I am profiting to reorganize my "logistics", reorganizing and managing all this. I usually do this once a year, and it is not easy coz I find myself sinking in files spread around the house on cds, memory sticks or hard drives. Even my main pc and laptop become so filled with info that I dont have anymore space disk to work with... And now that I have gathered all this in one place I see a 1 meter and 1/2 tower of cd boxes that I have to go through, delete duplicates, archive oldies (music), backup pix etc etc....

I donno, but for me this reorganizing information thing that I call my "workshop day" is really time consuming and I cant afford not to do it at least once a year otherwise I will saturate my pc, my internal network, my music, my files and will definetly get lost sooner or later....:what

According to the amount of info that I have to reorganize, it will take me probably a few days before my hubby and I complete this task.

You guys, users, djs, artists, do you face similar issues on ur pcs? How do u manage all this quantity of info and files, i.e. music/software/pix etc etc...? Do you copy them onto dvds to store them or you use a tape backup device? Buy external hdds and use a sync system for that? Do you manage your files periodically? If yes how often?

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DELETE.

The best helper when it comes to organising. Too often we accmulate shit we never have need for anyway, just because we think we might need it some time later.

It'll be harder for you to delete if you need the mp3s for playing, etc. These days I delete 80% of the sets after I've heard them, so the 20% or less goes into a 'permanent' collection ... which I seldom ever pull out again for listening anyway.

There's just too much data out there these days. Surely the Law of Conservation should apply to data!

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Till now I gathered approximately 120 cds to throw. I didnt start with the hard drives yet... :what

I have all the info organized into 3 sections: Music / Software / Pix&Vids (Modeling & personals) The BIG section is the music section that has 4 subsections: Sets (All) / Djing (trx) / Production (projects) / Production Software And here lies the bulk of my problems...lol

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[quote=feather;645541]DELETE.[/quote]

+1

I have my permanent music/pics/and apps stored on CD and an external HD. All the rubbish never leaves my laptop and goes straight to the trash. It was getting pretty unorganized at one point and now I just stay on top of all the data instead of having a "workshop day" once or twice a year. Seems much easier that way. You just have to come up with a system and NOT procrastinate. Things can pile up quickly.....

On my external I have two main directories, Stored and Not Stored. Under the Stored directory I have all the backup CD's stored as folders. For example:

A folder called "DJ Sets Spring 08 #1". This contains all the music stored on the corresponding CD called "DJ Sets Spring 08 #1". This way if Im looking for a certain set on CD for some reason, I can search my Stored directory and find out which CD its on.

Under the Not Stored directory I have basic folders labeled Music, which breaks down into DJ Sets, DJ Tracks, Non EDM, etc.... Pics, breaking down into different folders by event and so on. Once I have enough pics, music or whatever to fill a CD I will put that data into a folder with the new CD name, burn the CD, and move that folder into the Stored directory.

Its a system. Find whatever works for you. :Bingo:

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Lots of duplicates, tracks, sound banks, refills, pix.... a mess! lol

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lolz good luck

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Usually just back-up stuff on DVD's to store them, but an external hard drive is also a good option. In fact, that reminds me that I need to back-up a bunch of stuff from my old desktop that I don't use anymore.

This is easier said than done but doing a clean-up once a month rather than once a year will make it seem much less of such an unsurmountable task. However, like I said, easier said than done, and I need to follow my own advice. ;)

And of course deleting is KEY!

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[quote=Shiva;645605]Lots of duplicates, tracks, sound banks, refills, pix.... a mess! lol[/quote]

YES! I try to do a little each day, but I really need to start by organising what I have and go from there.. the digital age is great as far as music access but it has made a mess of my HD, lol

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^ A disaster on my hdds :lol:

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^^^ new track name IMO :)

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:lol:

And I have these folders where I archive tracks I receive from other djs and friends that play different styles of music, not proggy but rather techno music, zabiella style...

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yeah, i know how u feel!

every now and then i try and tidy stuff up.

ie this weekend.

problem is its time consuming and boring as fuck!

fun! fun! fun!!!

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[quote=Dhar_2;645648]yeah, i know how u feel!

every now and then i try and tidy stuff up.

ie this weekend.

problem is its time consuming and boring as fuck!

fun! fun! fun!!![/quote]

Should have plenty of new music to listen to while organizing..

fun! fun! fun!!!

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^^^^ there in lies another problem, i start organising and coming across old or new stuff i havent heard in a while or ever before and start compiling tracks for a new mix or my next gig.. ADD anyone? lol

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Once a week...Go through your files and delete...If you haven't listened to them in a week...Delete them, you won't miss 'em...

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interesting idea!

might have to start doing that.

download so mcuh and never really listen to it all!

i've been trying to be more selective. but it doesnt help!

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Bahhh, I dread cleaning up the piled up accumulations on my computer -- that process can take forever aye? What I usually do is get lazy and send em' over to my externals --when I get low on disc space-- or I just go on a delete spree. Evidently I wasn't blessed with the thorough organizer gene :(

Shiva, IMO, I'd Love to hear a Progressive Breaks/Breaks/Techno Breaks mix crafted by you, with augmentation of your finesse Dark Pr0g style. :p

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[quote=w0e & cri5is;645660]Shiva, IMO, I'd Love to hear a progressive breaks/breaks/techno breaks mix crafted by you, and augmented with your finesse dark pr0g style. :p[/quote]

^ :lol:

^ why are you stressing so much on the "breaks" thing?? Did u notice anything?

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Usually when I feel my Hard Drive on my laptop getting too full. I just plug in my external 500g and move files around. Then eventually at the same time I do the editing of what I wanna keep.

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[quote=Shiva;645663]^ :lol:

^ why are you stressing so much on the "breaks" thing?? Did u notice anything?[/quote]

No no. Your mixing is smooth and tight as is. I was openly pondering constructive feedback a bit, sry. I'm just a super fiend for all things "4/4 dark" and "breaks" :oops:.

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^ lmao

No, I just asked that coz I just released the [ms] live session..... that's all...flower

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flower?

is there something we should know about??

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It's used for cooking.

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:lol:

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[quote=lilsensa;645687]It's used for cooking.[/quote] that would be [B]flour[/B]

[B]flowers[/B] look pretty and feed the bee's

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oops.

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flower = kindness (delicatesse) :)

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I have been going through the promos folder all day long...so much of everything, from nintendo tracks to nice techno, but very few nice dark proggy tracks (with FEELINGS).

It is definetly becoming easier to produce music nowadays, that is more than clear. However, music remains a UNIVERSE. It seems to me the easier the music is becoming to produce, the least feelings you get out of tracks (in general).

Again, it gets down to quantity vs quality.

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^^If music is easier to produce these days, we would all have hits...Even though the programs are getting better, there is still the musical skill of the person working the program...You either have it or you don't..

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Yes, true to some extent. Technical skills are important, but then comes the "feelings" part, the heart and passion that the artist puts into the track. Thats why @ SUDAM things are seen differently.

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Well said Lilsensa and Shiva.

[I]Everything is possible. It's so easy to get discouraged when first starting out, I'm at that point right now and it blows.. but it is like anything in life, if we strive and pave the way with the blood of our heart, dedicated hard work, and a shitload of practice, we will eventually develop the skill and triumph. I think all true artists, quality driven djs, cultural provocateurs etc. etc. should be some of the most highest paid people in the world, for sublime reasons forsures.

Furthermore, despite all the bullshit goin on in the world, EDM etc. has united all nationalties and people --in a kindly, subtle and integrated fashion, I assert that fact. But we all know that.[/I]

terminating blah plug now. ;)

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[quote=Shiva;645822]Yes, true to some extent. Technical skills are important, but then comes the "feelings" part, the heart and passion that the artist puts into the track. Thats why @ SUDAM things are seen differently.[/quote]

Word. 8)

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I just keep getting bigger hard drives :lol:

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^^^ tiger direct has a 1TB HD for $169.00 USD

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[quote=DIDI;645846]I just keep getting bigger hard drives :lol:[/quote]

^ :lol:

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Gotta say - feel where your comin from. Started trying to organise all my files about 4 months ago. Got off to a good start but then just sacked it off. Only thing is, I copied everything onto a friends external HD that he lent me whilst I re-installed my PC then never actually got round to sorting it out. Turns out ive had his HD for about 6 months now - thats 4 months more than he's had it! Feel a bit tight about the fact ive had his hard drive twice as long as him n he owns it!!

By the sounds of things though - I dont have anywhere near as much as you Shiva.

I guess the biggest part of it is coming up with some sort of system for organising / filing things so that you can find whatever youre looking for once its all archived.

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Only thing about bigger Hard Drives is its a case of all your eggs in 1 basket!

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[quote=Shiva;645822], but then comes the "feelings" part, the heart and passion that the artist puts into the track. Thats why @ SUDAM things are seen differently.[/quote]

so so true. that is why i love what you all are doing...really has been a pleasure to listen to.

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screw that. I'm on a mission to have one of the biggest personal collections ever...

1.87TB total space

150GB free

:shock:

:lol:

and that 1TB drive is next :twisted:

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[QUOTE=Shiva;645816]I have been going through the promos folder all day long...so much of everything, from nintendo tracks to nice techno, but very few nice dark proggy tracks (with FEELINGS).

It is definetly becoming easier to produce music nowadays, that is more than clear. However, music remains a UNIVERSE. It seems to me the easier the music is becoming to produce, the least feelings you get out of tracks (in general).

Again, it gets down to quantity vs quality.[/QUOTE] If you want to weave some of the others genres into your playing but keep the "feelings" Just have a listen to this! [url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59560[/url]

The master :bowdown2