Re: Afterhours online....new trend?
[quote=Shiva;634381]I don't like the twist this thread took, and I am not the type of person to hide behind by my finger, so i'm gona be blunt and strait forward about this:
First, a basic rule of a dj is to know his crowd/audience, and I surely know how to judge my audience coz I grew up on stage:
I am proud of being an afterhours dj, which means I play NASTY & DARK music for a particular audience of the early (and late) mornings. And I can guarantee you that 90% of that audience is not holding a bottle of milk in hand, but a bottle of water or redbull...
Why? Coz it is the "nastiest" yet the "loveliest" music crowd you can find around, they are surely all sky high on drugs and not alcohol. And as for judging a crowd, I escape from alcohol audience where most of the time fights, violence and trouble happen between clubbers. This is the main catch between alcohol crowds and non-alcohol crowds...with the non-alcohol crowd you can be sure that nothing will happen, not even a slap across the face all night long. I am so anti-alcohol person and I believe that all western countries, except Holland, are so hypocrite concerning the drug subject.
Lets take Holland for ex where soft drugs are legal since years now. What do they get for that:
Less violence, less heavy addicts, less alcoholics, less mafias, less dealers, less AIDS, less public debt, less public deficit etc etc...
More economic strength and therefore better living standards, more peace, more fun, more tourism, more national income etc etc...
Also, to point out that Holland, unlike the rest of Europe, is the ONLY country that has been facing inflation and cost of living with all easy since the early 90's till today, simply coz soft drugs (and sex- but thats not the issue here) were turned into LEGAL and controlled industries.
Compare the clubs of Holland with the rest of the clubs in the world, compare the dutch crowd and mentality with the rest of the world.....they are far ahead of all other advanced nations in this matter.....coz they are not HYPOCRITE about it!
Now other neighboring nations are starting to learn the lesson: Switzerland, France, Belgium & Spain have officially de-penalized it (not fully legal yet though, but on the way)
Now the US are trying to make a prescription thing, and in California only, when they have to face the most urgent matter since the fall of communism: crystal.
Yes, the most dangerous drug ever to exist, and the easiest to produce, and this issue is unfortunately getting out of hand in the US, almost as much as the brown in Afghanistan or the white in Colombia.
Had they followed the dutch system, this issue would probably have not gotten so far and deeply rooted in society. But no, lets keep on being hypocrite about this...
The more you forbid people from doing something, the more they will do it and go beyond...that's human nature.
Where do I stand on this: [B]LEGALIZE SOFT DRUGS & BAN ALCOHOL[/B]
(09:00am, afterhours in one of the darkest underground clubs of Beirut)
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holy shit lori.....u,ve never been to holland have you ?
well i'll put it this way.... i would rather walk through beroute naked with an american flag tattoed to my face...its a very very rough place....i was over just over 10-12 years ago and i swear then that i would never go back...the streets are full of junkies..high constantly walking to you asking if you want to buy drugs, 9 times out of ten as soon as u say yes and pull out ur money ur surrounded with people holding knifes or something worse, say good buy to ur purse...its gangsta city...i,ve seen people smoking heroin in the doorway to a police station....right in the main part of the city there are traffic lights FOR CHILDREN ( yes thats right for children ) saying that @ this time its either safe for children to walk here or not...
the atmosphere to say the very very least is frightening, you are constantly surrounded by potential muggers ( maybe a bit like beroute with regards to bombers )..its certainly one place that if ur not used to or dont blend in well ur @ huge risk
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Lets take Holland for ex where soft drugs are legal since years now. What do they get for that:
Less violence, less heavy addicts, less alcoholics, less mafias, less dealers, less AIDS, less public debt, less public deficit etc etc...
More economic strength and therefore better living standards, more peace, more fun, more tourism, more national income etc etc...[/quote]
^ who ever told u that is talking rubbish :lol:
soft drugs are not legal they are decriminalised which is actually different from being legal as such...you cant smoke a joint walking down the street. if ur caught the likelyhood is you will get away witha warning but its not a risk i would take myself....
most of the violence goes untold because people are actually frightened by what they see, there is actually more dealers than u would like to imagine there was, trust me @ certain points in time during the day 8 people out of 10 you see walking in the city centre are dealers or someone working for a dealer
as for the hash cafe's well recently the government has been clamping down on them and closing a lot of them down due to the fact that many of them are set up just for the tourists and are considering licensing cafe's only to sell cannabis to people with a dutch passport which means that tourists are certainly going to be put @ more risk because they will have to goto street dealers for a smoke.....you want to have a look @ the REAL holland lori ?..... take a look @ its mental health record and also its cancer rates! :|