legal in UK, a few other countries and some states in US!

very strong shit!!!

anyone here tried it??

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Once, certainly not the full, proper experience. I only felt stoned. :roll:

Some people liken it to DMT.

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Some friends of mine did, and they all say its hell of a trip. There are many kinds of salvia also. Like 10x 20x 30x

have fun!

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^^yeah, thats true the higher the -X- the stronger the trip. only lasts for 5 mins though..

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But it doesn't feel like 5 mins ... your subjective time gets wacked on it.

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Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...

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[quote=feather;633242]But it doesn't feel like 5 mins ... your subjective time gets wacked on it.[/quote]

:lol:

its just a bit weird! it seems all i can remember after im doing it, is a title of a Kasey's Taylor tune called: [LEFT] "stuck in a loop" [/LEFT] :D

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[quote=lilsensa;633244]Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...[/quote]

Eh are you the same guy who has some sleepwalking problem on ambien or some sleeping drugs? :shock:

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[QUOTE=lilsensa;633244]Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...[/QUOTE] Well that sounds like fun :lol:

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[quote=feather;633250]Eh are you the same guy who has some sleepwalking problem on ambien or some sleeping drugs? :shock:[/quote]

I dont have sleepwalking probs...I just can't sleep most nights...

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Must be another forumer ... remember reading about it 2 months back in GYY.

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I'll pass. A friend took some big bong hits of it and laid on the floor and checked out for about 10 mins. Literally clutching at straws for reality, anything, something. Weirdness for sure. He finally came back and started cracking up, laughed so hard, said "wow that was fucked up." lol. He tried to explain the trip to me, and, yeah, it's not where i want to go.

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^ but overall, your friend enjoyed it an would do it again? I am intrigued by this. It would be comforting that if shit gets out of hand, it will pass in 5 minutes.

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got a two-dose sample from some kind soul..

i tried the soak in mouth technique, because i didn't want to smoke it, and got a weak buzz..

my roommate smoked it and talked to the pipe for a few minutes before he moved to the floor and talked to the carpet. that might not be a glamorous endorsement but he liked it. i understand you want cozy settings. relaxed.

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[QUOTE=threehills;633262]^ but overall, your friend enjoyed it an would do it again? [/QUOTE]

enjoyed it? he just said it was really fking bizzare, but he digs shit like that. he also said he probably wouldn't do it again. :lol:

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Yeah at least it's over in 5 mins as opposed to 10 hrs :lol:

Read more [URL="http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml"]here[/URL].

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^^That's the best way to describe it.. Really fucking bizzare. Everything turns into a Hollywood movie set on that stuff...You can't tell what is real, both physically and mentally...You don't even know the meaning of the word real on that shit.

It's not a party drug...It's more of a spiritual drug...Not for the faint of heart...Def not something to do with a shit load of peeps..Have a person or two watch over you...But most of all, do it for yourself and for self exploration...That's the only way to enjoy it.

If you do it inside, I bet you a million dollars that you will run for the door to get outside.

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A friend of mine smoked it... the effect lasted for about 5 minutes... he kept standing up, and moving his hand slowly, he said he could make drawings in the air, and that those drawings kept in the air like yellow lines... he didn´t talk during the trip. btw, he enjoyed it very much

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i know for sure the effects last for five mins. of course you will need another 10-15 to chill out and realize what just happened to you! seriously i still cant beleive how powerfull are some plants! you only need a little bit of this shit to blow your head off!! and beleive me ive done looads of acid and mushies and this shit is more intense! the huge difference is as Feather said, wherever it mite take you, you will be back in 5mins or even less!

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Sat as a watch for a friend one time.

Looked like he became possessed when the stuff took hold, only took a minute. Lasted about 5 minutes before he came back to reality. Almost grabbed something while under the effects, not a good thing, hehe. I will advize anyone that tries it to make sure someone is watching you while you do, could be dangerous otherwise.

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i found this "S-A-L-V-I-A" scale to understand the levels of each trip:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B]Level -1[/B] "S stands for SUBTLE effects." A feeling that "something" is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B] Level - 2[/B] "A stands for ALTERED perception." Colors and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B] Level - 3[/B] "L" stands for LIGHT visionary state." Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vinelike and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. If open eyed visual effects occur these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as "eye candy" but are not confused with reality. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B] Level - 4[/B] "V stands for VIVID visionary state." Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shaman's world. Or if you prefer you are in "dream time." With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the "eye candy" closed eye imagery, of level 3. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B] Level - 5[/B] "I" stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some thought processes are still lucid,[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and looses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][B] Level 6[/B] - "A stands for AMNESIC effects " At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.

;) [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]

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[quote=lilsensa;633244]Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...[/quote]

A few years ago that would have intrigued me...now i feel I would never want to feel/act like that.

That sounds so crazy! lol

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its crap lol did it one time, got crazy patterns appearing in my eyes felt odd for 5 minutes then felt funny for another 10

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deffo sounds a lot like dmt.. I'd try it for sure, unfortunately the place around here that used to sell it, doesnt any more since it is now illegal in Florida

doesnt sound like something you'd want to do in a club huh? lol

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^^When did it become illegal in FL??

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[quote=Steve Graham;633375]deffo sounds a lot like dmt.. I'd try it for sure, unfortunately the place around here that used to sell it, doesnt any more since it is now illegal in Florida

doesnt sound like something you'd want to do in a club huh? lol[/quote]

deffinately not, all it does to u is give you crazy "patterned" halloucanations for roughly 5 minutes and tbh i didnt notice anything about sound the one time i did it poroperly, did it another time and that was my first and i just went into fits of laughter.

it tastes disgusting tbh and of course u have to smoke it ( cant believe i used to smoke )...you wont be kissing your gf/wife after a night of that i,ll tell u lol

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The last time I tried this stuff was in 2000/2001 back in high school and it was alright for me. I didn't mind doing it every now and then but it was way too harsh when one would smoke it.

The liquid extract just straight up burns. It seems to behave differently with each person unlike weed, alcohol, coke where everyone tends to get the same effects from it. For my friend he was in pure euphoria, crying, etc for like 5 to 10 minutes before he came back to reality. He saw Jamaican's riding bicycles around him and said he could feel himself being born.

It seems the main thing the trippers are (and have been) into around here is 2CB, etc.

IMO just drop booms. Much nicer and easier. LOL.

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I dunno why people are reporting experiences of crazy hallucinations and running about like cracked out children. I'll hit some salvia a few times a year, and EVERY experience I've had, has rendered me completely immobile. I've given it to dozens of friends, and I've never seen ANYONE try to run. I usually warn people to sit down first. Gravity gets skewed.

Salvia is some strong shit. Like no other drug I've ever done. It's like LSD in a Whip-It. Makes me forget I'm a human being for a minute... it's nice.

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I might buy some as it looks legal here in PA. Any ideas of how many grams goes into a dose?

[U][url]http://www.potentsalvia.com/[/url][/U]

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[QUOTE=lilsensa;633244]Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...[/QUOTE]

Uh, sounds like a blast? :unsure::NotMe:

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[quote=threehills;633442]I might buy some as it looks legal here in PA. Any ideas of how many grams goes into a dose?

[U][URL]http://www.potentsalvia.com/[/URL][/U][/quote]

depends on strength, u just take it like u would with weed

hold the smoke in

its disgusting

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[quote=threehills;633442]I might buy some as it looks legal here in PA. Any ideas of how many grams goes into a dose?

[U][URL]http://www.potentsalvia.com/[/URL][/U][/quote]

well i didnt go to this site but i suppose it should have a forum. just browse through the threads and you should be able to find a guide, as every shop dont sell exactly the same stuff. id say roughly, dont go for the 40X or more, get the 20X. they should sell it in grams. that gram divide in 16 equal bits. 1/16 of the gram you'll get is enough for a mild visual trip!

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i dont know about the legalities in states concerning these but Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds are probibly a better option.

i did 5 of these a long time ago and i swear it was the best £3 i,ve ever spent getting high in my life, its not a trip as such more a euphoric pleasurable fealing.

you have to be carefull with things like this though because if you think about it they knock your brain chemistry out of its normal balance. anything that produces a "high" interfieres with the brain chemisty can be dangerous especially things that give "trippy" fealings. the chemicals which produce this fealing are actually always present in the body its usually a trigger reaction with the injested chemical which then triggers a reaction in the brain. sure its great to get high but if you think about the consequenses years down the line then you will end up in a lot of shit, trust me this is experience talking here.;

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[quote=Huggie Smiles;633765][IMG]http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7338/fearandloathingkw5.gif[/IMG][/quote]

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

what a film!!!

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Strange that I have just seen this thread as I was watching some YouTube vids of people on this stuff over the weekend. Looks pretty fucking intense like people have said. A few peeps on the videos really are away with the fairies but all their mates are still pissing themselves and filming them so they are obv not too worried! lol. Also no one seems scared or disturbed or anything, its looks more like a mixture of hilarity and confusion/bewilderment..

-edit - assume that the red cross that I can see at work that Huggie posted is one of those videos.

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[quote=lilsensa;633244]Do the 30x........Ive done it. Me and a friend did some and I ran out of the house and into the woods thinking that I was in a war zone and that people were chasing me..I was hiding in between someones window and an air conditioning unit...The whole time I was yelling for my friends not to come any closer to me because I thought they were the enemy...Finally someone yelled at me out of their window for me to shut the fuck up...Whoever saw me at that time probably thought that I was a mental patient that had escaped.....That's about when I came to...I was still confused as all hell for about half an hour..

My buddy that did it drooled all over my couch, leaned forward and fell face first into the coffee table, tripping out....Wacky shit...[/quote]

WOW!! did the 30x about 2 years ago on a regular basis. much like looking for that crack high after the first time you do it, you never reach that plateau again.....ever. if you were able to stand and run (and really be doing it) on this shit, my hats off to you my friend. anytime that i ever did it and gave it to friends, we always did it in shifts so that the other person could watch out for the other. (literally have scars from where i burned myself with the bowl or the lighter after "lifting off.") very intense buzz for short period of time after effects were very strange, like nothing i have ever done before. (quite experienced in this field)

the first time i did it, i was expecting an "inward journey" which i got. i remember at some point thinking that i had found the secret to life (although i forgot what it was as soon as i came out of it) and had this imagry of losing my body, all except for my brain and spinal chord, where my spinal cord had reshaped, bent forward then was tickling the frontal lobe.....then out of nowhere, BAM, came out of it realizing that i had slumped forward and the lighter i had been using was sandwiched between my forehead and the chair i was sitting in, resulting in a minor burn to the forehead.

very strange stuff indeed. for those of you wishing to experiment that have never tried, make sure you have someone to do it with. (that's not doing it at the same time)

also check out Joe Grogan discussing his experiences with DMT on youtube, very similar. (would post a link, but i am blocked from youtube at work)

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[quote=rainman;634275]

the first time i did it, i was expecting an "inward journey" which i got. i remember at some point thinking that i had found the secret to life (although i forgot what it was as soon as i came out of it) and had this imagry of losing my body, all except for my brain and spinal chord, where my spinal cord had reshaped, bent forward then was tickling the frontal lobe.....then out of nowhere, BAM, came out of it realizing that i had slumped forward and the lighter i had been using was sandwiched between my forehead and the chair i was sitting in, resulting in a minor burn to the forehead. [/quote]

i,ve always thought that people that say things like that mostly have been bullshiting and i,m not saying you are here but i'd never experienced anything like that from something like that...i stopped doing that kind of stuff years ago though, some of my freinds are still taking ex and stuff but its mostly shifted towards cocaine which is even more frightening, i havnt done ex since i was 21 which was a long time ago but then u could only maybe do 1 or 2..over here now the youngsters are doing 12 in a night mixing it with dirty coke and drink and thinking nothing of it....just shows you why people are turning to the legal side of getting high as they are not only purer but they can tell whats been put in them ( if they are pills )...tbh its just as dangerous and the illegal stuff as they effect the same chemicals in the brain and of course when they knock the balance of the brain chemistry out then your in trouble, you never really fully recover when something like that happens...people dont think about the consiquencies years down the line when it comes to things like this...

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[quote=red1;634280]i,ve always thought that people that say things like that mostly have been bullshiting and i,m not saying you are here but i'd never experienced anything like that from something like that...i stopped doing that kind of stuff years ago though, some of my freinds are still taking ex and stuff but its mostly shifted towards cocaine which is even more frightening, i havnt done ex since i was 21 which was a long time ago but then u could only maybe do 1 or 2..over here now the youngsters are doing 12 in a night mixing it with dirty coke and drink and thinking nothing of it....just shows you why people are turning to the legal side of getting high as they are not only purer but they can tell whats been put in them ( if they are pills )...tbh its just as dangerous and the illegal stuff as they effect the same chemicals in the brain and of course when they knock the balance of the brain chemistry out then your in trouble, you never really fully recover when something like that happens...people dont think about the consiquencies years down the line when it comes to things like this...[/quote]

not bullshitting at all. as far as age goes, that was a few years ago. i'm 32 now and only dabble in recreational use of marijuana now. i can tell a huge difference in my intellectual capacity now versus a few years before i started my all out assault on my brain. really wish that i hadn't done as much damage, but hey i was young and stupid. story in short, there are most defo consequences later in life for what you do today. totally agree with the never fully recovering from certain things. dangerous shit out there to play with, very important to know what you are taking, how much to take and what to expect from it and what it will do to your body, before you ingest.

erowid :RockOn:

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[quote=rainman;634295]not bullshitting at all. as far as age goes, that was a few years ago. i'm 32 now and only dabble in recreational use of marijuana now. i can tell a huge difference in my intellectual capacity now versus a few years before i started my all out assault on my brain. really wish that i hadn't done as much damage, but hey i was young and stupid. story in short, there are most defo consequences later in life for what you do today. totally agree with the never fully recovering from certain things. dangerous shit out there to play with, very important to know what you are taking, how much to take and what to expect from it and what it will do to your body, before you ingest.

erowid :RockOn:[/quote]

idiotwid....

trust me rainman weed is just as bad if not worse, i used to do weed all the time also so u get used to having certain chemicals running through ur body which only really becomes apparent just how used to it ur body becomes when u finally stop it and of course thats even before u consider the fact that you usually smoke it to get a high, i love being high on weed but i cant live with it in my life because i ended up in hospital due to over use...drugs that alter my brain chemistry are something i cant do any more even though when i,m high on weed i have so much concentration and ability creativly..this part of it cuts me up everytime i see someone smoke it because i,ve been off weed since 2002 and still to this day i have cravings especially when i sit down @ my pc and try to be musically creative...everytime i do this its as if something is missing so the feeling just isnt right and its taking years and years to get over it, i,m still struggling with it....last christmas i did 3 grams over the space of a week..as soon as i took my first hit from a joint i instantly felt switched on...its hard to describe, something just happens in my head. now instead of getting high all the time i just end up eating and eating and eating to the point where i cant eat no more which makes me depressed and i end up just sitting on this all day everyday for as long as i can....if your wise you would wrong that bag of green in the bin.