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Why do people hate the USA

148 durable postsStarted 2006-08-16Latest 2006-08-28
#692689Post 81 of 148

Re: Why do people hate the USA

[QUOTE=sakio pod]is it really because we have it so good?????[/QUOTE]

How exactly do you have it so good? How would living in the USA be better (or any different) to living in say Australia, or the UK, or Ireland, or Canada, or the large majority of countries in Europe, or NZ, or Japan? (I could go on for a lot longer)

Maybe that's part of the problem - you think you have something that all those nations I just mentioned don't have? I dunno, not trying to flame and haven't read the whole thread, but it always makes me wonder when people say things like that.

I'd like to hear from your point of view though what America has that those nations don't have.

#692828Post 82 of 148

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[QUOTE=SyntaxTerror] I'd like to hear from your point of view though what America has that those nations don't have.[/QUOTE]

FREEDOM!! :lol:

Seriously, in most westernized countries, the standard of living isn't really all that different from that in America. You still have easy access to food, lodging, and all of the modern conveniences of life. Compare the US (and much Europe, Australia, Japan, etc.) with a lot of the less-developed countries, though, and there is really no comparison. I was in the Dominican Republic a couple of years ago for vacation and was shocked at the poverty in which people lived. Homes were constructed out of old street signs welded together, banks were tiny shacks with the word "Banca" spray painted on them, and people were harvesting sugar cane -- the country's number one crop -- with oxen, carts, and scythes. Pretty crazy shit.

The one thing the US does have that I could see other developed countries having a bit of a beef with is our ability to project our culture. When I was traveling Europe a few years ago, I was shocked at how much American television, movies, music, etc. was available. In contrast, with the exception of the occasional British sitcom (which will eventually be redone in an Americanized version), a handful of European or Austrailian music artists, and the random film that circulates the art house circuit, we don't really integrate near as much foreign culture into our own. We're like the friend down the street who never wants to play with your toys because we like ours better -- and you begrudgingly agree.

I don't know if this is, in fact, part of the reason for any of the animosity, but that might get to me after a while if I didn't live here -- not in a vindictive, "let's blow the hell out of them" way, but in a "well, this kinda sucks" sort of way. Especially in Europe, you have all of these countries with incredible history and culture, and yet much of your pop culture seems to be comprised of American hand-me-downs. Maybe it just seemed that way because I was not expecting to see as much US stuff as I did.

I will say this, lest I come off sounding like a jingoistic snob -- most Americans unfortunately never bother to travel to Europe and other parts of the world. For those of us that do, though, it's a life changing experience. I did some backpacking across Europe a few years ago that took me through Ireland, England, Scotland, France, Italy, Greece, The Netherlands, Czech Republic, Austria, Germany and Hungary. More than anything I've done here in the states, that trip had the most positive experience on my life and gave me a broader worldview.

#692977Post 83 of 148

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Great post!!. Love the toys line and yeah, we really think we have it a lot better in Australia! I should say I'm not sure how long thats going to last with our current government.

You seemed to have missed us in your travels . You would be very welcome and Australia really is a great country.[except for the drop bears!] Hope you can make it sometime :D

#693161Post 84 of 148

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[QUOTE=DIDI] You seemed to have missed us in your travels . You would be very welcome and Australia really is a great country.[except for the drop bears!] Hope you can make it sometime :D[/QUOTE]

Missed, but definitely not forgotten!! We might go back to Europe first because my wife hasn't been there yet and I want to break her in to serious travel with shorter-haul flights first, but it's very much on the short list. Many of my friends have been and all speak very highly of the Land of Oz... 8)

#693170Post 85 of 148

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#693236Post 86 of 148

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[quote=toasty]FREEDOM!! :lol:

Seriously, in most westernized countries, etc etc[/quote]

well, i think most people, even those in the lesser-developed countries, think where they live is best because it's their home. Just a simple fact of growing up some place.

I really agree with that about America and it's cultural influence...i don't know why more outside media influences aren't present...on second thought, I know exactly why: they either don't have the money to buy the air time, or are frozen out by existing media corporations, thus creating in Americans a cycle of non-awareness to outside media and resistance to it when they are presented with it. And I would understand if other countries were the same, with the same overall resistance to other media influences that we display, but so many countries eat up all the crap that comes out of here. I guess it's because our business doesn't end at our borders and intrudes upon those of other nations (hmmm...surprise surprise). This also probably confirms to a lot of Americans that their culture is superior, the fact that American media is everywhere (whereas it's simply what's available because global media is bought and paid for:x). Many Americans pride themselves on this countries' cultural diversity, which in actuality only really exists in the big cities, if at all.

I think what it comes down to is that the US is geographically isolated from other countries (except Canada and Mexico; big deal), whereas European contries are all right next to one another and getting from one to another is as easy as driving a few hours or taking a train overnight. Same thing in the Middle East, same thing in East Asia (albeit on a larger scale). I really don't know how it is in Australia, and I would bet large sums of money that Australians probably have a similar attitude about themselves to what the target Americans of this discussion have about themselves. But the fact that other culture's media is forced upon countries with neighbors is one explanation to why Americans are so globally inept compared with their other "Western" counterparts; we don't have many neighbors, and those we do have are not as politically significant as those overseas. (sorry Canada and Mexico)

#693256Post 87 of 148

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I think that this "cultural imperialism" is indeed an important part of the equasion, but the local retail sector is as much to blame for that as the corporations buying their way in with agressive and abundant marketing.

I don't have a problem with new concepts being introduced into our culture. After all, societies which remain static are doomed to disappear anyway. But I do have a problem with propper tradition and culture gradually being forced into musea by industry fueled events/holidays/whatever.

Take Santa Claus and Halloween for instance. Originally they weren't a part of the European culture (apart from maybe in the UK and Ireland). But during the past few years, they were injected in our lives (read consumer paterns). Why? Just the local economy seizing the opportunity to make extra profit.

Nope, I'm not gonna rant about capitalism and consumer society. People have the right to do with their money what they want. I just find it a damn shame that kids the days associate Christmas more and more with Santa than with the birth of Jesus Christ. Another shred of tradition and cultural history on the brink of being wiped off the table.

#693875Post 88 of 148

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[FONT=Times New Roman]That dose not surprise me .... SAD CUNTS

And i do not think their is enough Space on this fourm for me to say why I HATE the USA Country.

I have nothing against ppl there ...but alot against the country and government. [/FONT] [quote=etincelles]i hate the south (aka the bible belt) but fortunately there are some 'oases' ? around too so overall i suppose it's not too bad.

speaking of texas though: alot of these people are the ones who voted bush in. moreover, you can go to a local bar here in my town and see bumper stickers that say 'f*ck allah' and 'kill muslims' and things like that. so it's obvious some of the sentiments the local populace share...[/quote]

#693884Post 89 of 148

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Well I can say in my opinion, that I don?t hate usa but I hate americans, they fell they are the best,the center of the world, and totaly free, well,free are you free to drink alcohol with 19 years old? police in usa are like god, and I?m not talking of social insurence , if you have to go to the hospital prepare your walet, and also If you go to Usa bring your credit card otherwaise you are nothing

#693886Post 90 of 148

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[quote=santo26]Well I can say in my opinion, that I don?t hate usa but I hate americans, they fell they are the best,the center of the world, and totaly free, well,free are you free to drink alcohol with 19 years old? police in usa are like god, and I?m not talking of social insurence , if you have to go to the hospital prepare your walet, and also If you go to Usa bring your credit card otherwaise you are nothing[/quote]

:roflmao:

#693893Post 91 of 148

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You steal our oil. You steal our land. You steal our women! May the sun burn out your eyeballs. May your tongues turn black like your souls. May your faces one day exchange places with your butts. May your dickies grow scales. You are evil. You are pigs. You are dogs. You are chickens. You are stupid. You are crazy. You are warmongers.

(just wanted to know how it felt to post like a fundie :mrgreen:)

#693898Post 92 of 148

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iv had enough usa bashing...bought tired of hearing all the complaints about this wonderful country....

if it wasnt for the US we all be speaking german right now.

#693905Post 93 of 148

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[quote=chuckc]iv had enough usa bashing...bought tired of hearing all the complaints about this wonderful country....

if it wasnt for the US we all be speaking german right now.[/quote]I wonder what the German word for redneck is :p

#693906Post 94 of 148

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europeans suck.

#693911Post 95 of 148

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[quote=thesightless]europeans suck.[/quote]

and they smell to.

#693913Post 96 of 148

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seriously. hairy women too. and do they even have dental schools there? i mean comon..... not to mention their version of guidos. eurotrash. (read:kinky). oh yeah. socialism sucks. and can they sacrifice a little pride and get one common language? i mean, jeeeeeeeez. at least they will have to deal with sharia first being connected by land to HELL.

#693914Post 97 of 148

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not to mention the greeks and germans fuck animals on a regular basis.

#693916Post 98 of 148

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to what jenks was laughing at....

yeah, we have to pay for healthcare because the good doctors come to work here. so we dont mind. or does another latin american country need to send yet another pair of conjoined twins to texas to get split? where are the beaner doctors? nonexistent.

#693917Post 99 of 148

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[quote=thesightless]seriously. hairy women too. and do they even have dental schools there? i mean comon..... not to mention their version of guidos. eurotrash. (read:kinky). oh yeah. socialism sucks. and can they sacrifice a little pride and get one common language? i mean, jeeeeeeeez. at least they will have to deal with sharia first being connected by land to HELL.[/quote]if we shave our women, they'll stop being hairy. If you shave yours, they'll still be fat :twisted:

#693922Post 100 of 148

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hey, im all for killing off the fat people. and the dumb people. and anyone with independent thought. and to santo. our country accounts for probably 40-60% of your country's economy with all the tax free money illegal immigrants send back

#693925Post 101 of 148

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woohoo ethnic cleansing in the US! Free America of the Americans :D

#693931Post 102 of 148

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hell yeah. i wouldnt mind seeing that. we could start a pool on who can kill off the most illegal immigrants.

i think we should isolate ourselves. stop spending money on foreign products and eliminate foreign direct aid. you know, collapse a few economies and governments, not by ''meddling'' but simply by pretending they dont exist. we could stay up night and watch the fires burn in south america and the middle east when the militants and drug lords fight for control. it would be awesome. mainland europe and the isles should be fine. they are self sustaining.

#693932Post 103 of 148

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woohoo global ethnic cleansing. Free the world of everything which is not European or European offspring (that is to say, Americans) :D

#693940Post 104 of 148

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not cleansing, just isolation. so they can stop saying we meddle if we help or that we let bad things happen when we dont. lmao, it reminds me of all the mexicans going nuts when the illegal immigration issue was flaring up. they all screamed that we should never tighten up rules(roughly 4 million have snuck in the last 3 years) and they screamed about our govt. i was like. well.... what about Fox and the mexican govt who have imigration restrictions far worse than us, while we just send ya back, they imprison you. then i was like, what if everyone stopped paying the illegal immigrants here. and businesses took back the manufacturing to US soil? oh yeah!!!, everything south of texas would fail. so maybe the real issue is the place they came from. obviously it needs a little improvement.

i.e. once you bite that hand that feeds, and it reacts, dont ask it to feed you again.

#693941Post 105 of 148

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[quote=Miroslav]I think that anytime you have a nation that possesses superpower status like America (and I don't mean that arrogantly, but in terms of economy, military, etc.), you're by default going to have a bunch of people who hate that nation...because that nation is pretty much by definition going to have more impact on issues that affect people across national boundaries. You can see this going back a long way in history. Many people will always hate the big kid on the block who has more influence than others. And eventually, the big kid on the block is toppled and a new one comes and takes the place. Repeat cycle ad infinitum.[/quote]

Totally not true .. You can have the super power and be fair to everyone around it .Don't tell me that Bush is fair to the Middle East especially .. Why are the americans in iraq now ?? What was the reason for going ? And what is happening in prisons there ..? That is not bullshit , these are facts. I had this conversation with a friend a couple of days ago who happens to be an american , and he was totally against bush and his policy in the Middle East ..So i personally would have no love for a pro Bush who totally understands where bush is going and why is he doing what he is doing ..and if you dont know :) let me explain

#693944Post 106 of 148

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give me more give me more. but dont ever have anything to do with me.

#693949Post 107 of 148

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I just get sick and tired of the world making Americans afraid to be Americans. We're constantly put on guilt trips for everything. Granted I don't agree with a lot of what goes on but if as much attention was put on the rest of the world as it is the Americans every country would have comparable dirty laundry to deal with. I understand a lot of Americans are arrogant especially when they go to other countries but you can't base opinions on those few jackasses. As for the people that say this country is evil and everything it stands for is evil well you know where you can shove that. people always forget anything positive that comes from this country. For those who piss and moan about having to live in this country, the doors open , nobody is stopping you. As for me I love this country, not everything it stands for but enough to say that I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Theres a reason why my ancestors came her back in the day!( which happens to be a Wednesday)

#693963Post 108 of 148

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exactly. if you dont like us, dont deal with us. stop asking for aid, for military help, and dont be surprised we react when you piss us off. if you want us to help you, work with us.

#693969Post 109 of 148

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[quote=thesightless]exactly. if you dont like us, dont deal with us. stop asking for aid, for military help, and dont be surprised we react when you piss us off. if you want us to help you, work with us.[/quote]

yep...the rest of the world has absoulutely no gratitude for what we have done for them......france especially

#693970Post 110 of 148

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[quote=thesightless]exactly. if you dont like us, dont deal with us. stop asking for aid, for military help, and dont be surprised we react when you piss us off. if you want us to help you, work with us.[/quote]

well said ;)

#693973Post 111 of 148

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its a small thing, and a falsehood in that they are allies and freidnly, but remember the little rise of uproar when the US wanted to close thier german based military bases?? the surrounding towns and government were fearing a small economic collapse in those immediate regions. so we kept them open.

#693974Post 112 of 148

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im still wondering why the fuck our government is giving foreign aid to palestine, iran, iraq, and other countries in that region..... they hate, they are trying to kill us, they want nothing but our heads on a pike and our kids in a mosque. why are we giving them all over a few billion a year????? cut that shit now. stop the funds and they will see how much american meddling affects them when we stop the meddling, and the money. portion out those sheep and camels, cuz food is gonna be fairly scarce for awhile, and oh yeah, we are not going to send grain and cornmeal over too. you can keep asia's rice, but once the meat and grain run out. you'll see what happens.

i wanna do what they do. lets see some pro american suicide bombings, kidnappings and beheadings. someone fly a plane into mecca's big black box during the heart of pilgramege.. lets go kidnap and videotape some al jazerra reporters. kill off a few people here and there with provacative messages on tape and video. someone drive a few trucks with explosives into tehrans biggest building. we can take outrunner boats and blow up navy ships.

#696926Post 113 of 148

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[quote=santo26]Well I can say in my opinion, that I don´t hate usa but I hate americans, they fell they are the best,the center of the world, and totaly free, well,free are you free to drink alcohol with 19 years old? police in usa are like god, and I´m not talking of social insurence , if you have to go to the hospital prepare your walet, and also If you go to Usa bring your credit card otherwaise you are nothing[/quote] looks like spellcheck is one of the freedoms we enjoy here in the USA :lol:

#696930Post 114 of 148

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If we put thesightless's posts all together I think it answers the question beautifully. Good choice of user name as well:lol:

#696978Post 115 of 148

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[quote=thesightless]im still wondering why the fuck our government is giving foreign aid to palestine, iran, iraq, and other countries in that region..... they hate, they are trying to kill us, they want nothing but our heads on a pike and our kids in a mosque. why are we giving them all over a few billion a year????? cut that shit now. stop the funds and they will see how much american meddling affects them when we stop the meddling, and the money. portion out those sheep and camels, cuz food is gonna be fairly scarce for awhile, and oh yeah, we are not going to send grain and cornmeal over too. you can keep asia's rice, but once the meat and grain run out. you'll see what happens.

i wanna do what they do. lets see some pro american suicide bombings, kidnappings and beheadings. someone fly a plane into mecca's big black box during the heart of pilgramege.. lets go kidnap and videotape some al jazerra reporters. kill off a few people here and there with provacative messages on tape and video. someone drive a few trucks with explosives into tehrans biggest building. we can take outrunner boats and blow up navy ships.[/quote]

Your country is giving aid to iraq and takin their petrol in return , they give 10% of what they take , and the media makes people livin in the states think like your giving . Your country forces to give otherwise look @ iraq now . Countries like Egypt , Saudi , Kuwait and all those can't develop on all basis cause the U.S forms hidden red lines on their development . The point is to keep these countries wanting your help , so don't go like you are really kind and peacefull , You are forcing the other countries to take , otherwise it's war examples are Syira , Iran . When Iran started to develop shit started about them developing weapons that will wipe out the area , fuck that Israel has these weapons , and the States constatly possess and develop even worse kinds of weapons !! Thank you . p.s I have nuthin against the american people , but i have against he who carries a weapon and points it towards me . I have against the politician (Bush) who gives shit about his people and all he is after is petrol cuz him and his dad are makin business out of it

#696992Post 116 of 148

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[FONT=Helv][SIZE=2]Personally i find Americans cheesy as fuck & yes I've been to America and they are chees on toast [/SIZE][/FONT] [quote=thesightless]europeans suck.[/quote]

#696993Post 117 of 148

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[FONT=Times New Roman]Who said we wanna deal with you guyz, you are around the other side of the plant, you come to the ME and fuck it up !! it will be in every one benefit if the yanks stay in their country and mind their own business, look around you all problems/wars/dirty operations got the USA name on it.

Again ppl i meet when i went to America where nice ppl, lot of you here sure to b good ppl, but the outcome of your country is rubbish. [/FONT] [quote=thesightless]exactly. if you dont like us, dont deal with us. stop asking for aid, for military help, and dont be surprised we react when you piss us off. if you want us to help you, work with us.[/quote]

#696999Post 118 of 148

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[quote=Dzone][FONT=Helv]Personally i find Americans cheesy as fuck & yes I've been to America and they are chees on toast [/FONT][/quote]Reminds me of when I was in Macedonia last time. We went to visit the Church of Sv.Pantelejmon in Ohrid, which is near a site where an early Christian Basilica (4th century AD) was excavated. I was checking out the floor mosaics, enjoying the peace and quiet on the hill top when an American couple came strolling up.

[woman, loud as hell, with a terrible accent and a voice that sounded like a pig being butchered] "Oooow, look at that floor honey, we should get thatfor the bathroom. [I](a 1.600 yr old floor mosaic, why not eh?)[/I] Think Zack and Walter would like that? What a pitty they left all them holes in it[I] (yeah duh, it's an archelogical site, what did you expect? polished floors???)[/I], those Macedonis [I](Macedonians, you're not in Iraq bitch)[/I] can't do anything right. They don't even have a MacDonald's here. [I](oh booohooo)[/I]"

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm not saying all Americans are cheesy, but dayum, some are really trying to win the prize...

#697020Post 119 of 148

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:SuckeyTo: why dont you bash america in the politics page....isnt this page supposed to be about music.

#697021Post 120 of 148

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[quote=chuckc]:SuckeyTo: why dont you bash america in the politics page....isnt this page supposed to be about music.[/quote]If you don't like it, don't click it chuck. And don't be such a soar loser, I even bash my own cuntry: [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31294"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31294[/URL] :roll:

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