[ms] · Est. May 2002
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[quote=xeb] what scares me about the states is how many people are so massivly unaware of the world around them.[/quote]
not in the big cities. Keep in mind that the smart people are aware of the world around them, its just they really don't care. In the slums or rural areas, yes, there are plenty of morans, but its the same in every country. ignorance is bliss.
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[quote=3d_1200]typical. shall we survery rural england?[/quote]
go ahead mate, i'm not from england
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[QUOTE]not in the big cities. Keep in mind that the smart people are aware of the world around them, its just they really don't care. In the slums or rural areas, yes, there are plenty of morans, but its the same in every country. ignorance is bliss.[/QUOTE]
I wish that were true. You would think you were right, but America's are extremely ignorant towards the world even in large citites. Which is damn strange for me, because of the many cultures that reside within the borders. I have had some drunk talks in the bar, and all the sudden we end up on world history and it's a dead end. It saddens me deeply.
I remember we had a Governer running here ... on a local news channel that asked to point out where Osama Bin Laden was from ... mind you this was after 911 ... not one could point to the correct country or even close. That is absurd ...
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][COLOR=silver]What is scarring me is the ignorance and generalizing going on in this thread.[/COLOR] [/FONT][/COLOR]
:FuckOff:
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[quote=speciale]not in the big cities. Keep in mind that the smart people are aware of the world around them, its just they really don't care. In the slums or rural areas, yes, there are plenty of morans, but its the same in every country. ignorance is bliss.[/quote] rural areas... IMO theres a difference between the states and say for example europe because of the population density. live in a rural area in europe and you'll still have a lot of contact with the outside world through tourism etc simply because rural doesn't mean isolated to the same degree that it can in the states.
to say that smart people live in cities and morons live in slums and out in the country is a bit of a generalisation dont' you think? I don't see this as a smart/dumb issue anyway... it's being aware of the world around you. i'm sure plenty of people from the slums and rural areas are off fighting in iraq... in fact i'd guess a higher proportion of the army is this kind of person exactly rather than the "smart" ones living in the cities...
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[QUOTE]What is scarring me is the ignorance and generalizing going on in this thread. [/QUOTE]
Kobe I would not lie to you. There is an amazing amount of ignorance within the states. "That is in another place, why the fuck should I care?"
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[quote=xeb]i've been to the state many times and love it. but it scares me at the same time. most of the people i've met in the states are shall we say "world wise" and that can be said of everyone on this or most other boards by virtue of the very fact that they are online and interacting with people outside their little bubble. what scares me about the states is how many people are so massivly unaware of the world around them.[/quote]
Xeb please refocus your attention to posting your goodies in this forum : [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=324"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=324[/URL]
thanks
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look about halfway down the page chief ;)
right now i need to refocus my attention to work!
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[quote=xeb]look about halfway down the page chief ;)
right now i need to refocus my attention to work![/quote]
already got it - next please :) :) :)
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[quote=KinKyJ]LMAO @ replies[/quote]
nice avatar anyway!:p
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Huggie ... I am a dual citizen being raised in Europe and in America. and simply from my own view and interactions, I truly have to say that statement is true.
There is a signifcant lack of education in the USA in regards to the World. Even in the US education system ... Look at wars for example ... a major portion of war education is based on what wars US were involved with. Surely other wars are touched on ... but no way as in depth as Civil War, Native Americain War, Spainsih War, WWI & WWII, etc.
Hesh ... Some people do not even know that there was a 100 year war. Sad, but this is how the US culture is bred.
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[COLOR=silver][quote=asdf_admin]Kobe I would not lie to you. There is an amazing amount of ignorance within the states. "That is in another place, why the fuck should I care?"[/quote][/COLOR]
[COLOR=silver]No question about it, those stats speak for themselves. What I am addressing the editorializing that has taken place since those statistics were copy/pasted. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=silver]The underlying accusations being thrown around in this thread is that this somehow impugns the entire population. That we are all uneducated, that we all support the GWB regime. Un-fucking-believe-able that I have to, a> put up with the shit in the first place, and THEN, b> be accused of being part of it.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#c0c0c0]LIke I said before :FuckOff: [/COLOR] [COLOR=#c0c0c0][/COLOR] [COLOR=#c0c0c0]Sorry but I cannot escape the irony of this whole thread, an ignorant commentary about ignorace. Where is the part where I'm supposed to be impressed?[/COLOR]
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[quote=asdf_admin]Huggie ... I am a dual citizen being raised in Europe and in America. [/quote]
we're special I know :)
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You can pretty much pull stats like this out of any population. Last year it was a poll in Britain that over half the country's teen's had not heard of Auschwitz. Does that mean that i think Brits are dense? no. Polls and stats like this are retarted and not representitive of the entire population.
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yeah. i gotcha on that.
frankly it does not matter at a personal level. Generally, Americans are open hearted people that drive there big cars and eat their hamburgers. so what if America are a little numb on the world issues ... I really think it is the big island thing ... " well that is so far away, will not really hurt me "
the issue ... Globalization. In fact, a ripple in any part of the world does have some adverse effects. Be it production, technology, shipping, etc. I think that is why 911 was such a horrible event in US history, just like Pearl Harbor. It was something that was never thought of or even considered. Even the US government took those "threats" lightly.
[QUOTE]You can pretty much pull stats like this out of any population. Last year it was a poll in Britain that over half the country's teen's had not heard of Auschwitz. Does that mean that i think Brits are dense? no. Polls and stats like this are retarted and not representitive of the entire population.[/QUOTE]
Jenks ... but this poll kinda stats a fact. Even though the poll itself may not of been done as well as we like. There is a common lack of world knowlwdge in USA.
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[quote=Jenks]You can pretty much pull stats like this out of any population. Last year it was a poll in Britain that over half the country's teen's had not heard of Auschwitz. Does that mean that i think Brits are dense? no. Polls and stats like this are retarted and not representitive of the entire population.[/quote]
Speaking of which, here's a stat: [FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/12/britain.teeth.reut/index.html"][COLOR=#800080]http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/12/britain.teeth.reut/index.html[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT]
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[QUOTE]The survey also found that 23 percent of people chose to leave food stuck between their teeth[/QUOTE]
that is fucking funny.
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You are so wise professor asdf. :roll:
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[QUOTE]Ok professor asdf.[/QUOTE]
ummm. professor of weirdness kind sir. ;)
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[quote=xeb]i cannot believe some of you are trying to defend this???
it's a fucking disgrace in anyone's books surely. if i heard shit like this about my country i'd be embarrased not trying to defend it.[/quote]
Who's trying to defend anything?? I said there are stupid people everywhere. Is that not true??
[quote=3d_1200]typical. shall we survery rural england?[/quote]
Or rural anywhere.
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[quote=asdf_admin]that is fucking funny.[/quote]
I can't get past the thought of jamming scissors between your teeth :lol:
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haha. that was fucking ace.
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[quote=asdf_admin]Huggie ... I am a dual citizen being raised in Europe and in America. and simply from my own view and interactions, I truly have to say that statement is true.
There is a signifcant lack of education in the USA in regards to the World. Even in the US education system ... Look at wars for example ... a major portion of war education is based on what wars US were involved with. Surely other wars are touched on ... but no way as in depth as Civil War, Native Americain War, Spainsih War, WWI & WWII, etc.
Hesh ... Some people do not even know that there was a 100 year war. Sad, but this is how the US culture is bred.[/quote]
I definitely worded my other posts wrong. No matter if in a rural area or in the city, you will find ignorant people. For younger people, if there isnt a movie or it is not on MTV, then they will not know about it. The school system here is a lot worse than back when I was in school. The classrooms had fewer students and the teachers could focus more on explaining things to their students. Now, (well at least in S. Florida) the classrooms are slammed and overcrowded.
If you don't believe that a lot of Americans are idiots, just watch Jay Leno's Jaywalking one night and you will see. Its a shame but what can you do? The day I have kids, I will encourage them to learn just a bit about their heratige and their country, then teach them about the world by actually taking them there.
BTW - asdf, did that the guy win the election for gov?
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[quote=Kobe]Speaking of which, here's a stat: [FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/12/britain.teeth.reut/index.html"][COLOR=#800080]http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/12/britain.teeth.reut/index.html[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [/quote]
hell yea! I use paper clips (unbent) - works a treat!
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[quote=Kobe][COLOR=silver]No question about it, those stats speak for themselves. What I am addressing the editorializing that has taken place since those statistics were copy/pasted. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=silver]The underlying accusations being thrown around in this thread is that this somehow impugns the entire population. That we are all uneducated, that we all support the GWB regime. Un-fucking-believe-able that I have to, a> put up with the shit in the first place, and THEN, b> be accused of being part of it.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#c0c0c0]LIke I said before :FuckOff: [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#c0c0c0]Sorry but I cannot escape the irony of this whole thread, an ignorant commentary about ignorace. Where is the part where I'm supposed to be impressed?[/COLOR][/quote]
not sure if that was aimed at me but sure it was in part at least. i said above (perhaps not quite clearly enough) that almost without fail every american i have met in life or online does not fit into this self-centered unaware of the world around them state. simply because i do actually meet them, therefore they're either travelling, online or in places i've played at.... ie, getting out and seeing that there is a world out there! generally i love this kind of person... great people, down to earth, open and friendly.
what bothers me is that you're in the distinct minority. the fact that bush can get elected again proves that through and through. i'm amazed it doesn't bother you more, hence the fact i said i can't believe people are coming on here defending this shit!
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It definitely bothers me. But to a large extent our experiences are similar, as I surround myself with like minded people and live on the fringes of the NY Metro area. The only places I'm exposed to extreme ignorace or conservatism is actually on-line. The people I interact with on a daily basis are all as intellegent open-minded as can be reasonibly expected. Just like you. I'm sure if I drove into the Ozark Mountains it would be a different story.
If anything, I think that is the bigger issue-- the two Americas. Not that Bush won in a landslide (he didn't). That we are very much split down the middle. Our last two elections were basically 50/50 in the popular vote. It is as if the civil War never ended, but rather than North vs South it is now Coastal vs Middle.
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You know what the common element is these kind of threads have? Every American tends to take criticism personally. Dunno why that is, but some people need to start realising not everything is US bashing. Especially on a forum like MS where the overall IQ level is a tad higher than that from other boards I know...
Anyway, what Kobe says is exactly what those survey results mean. Not that Yanks are overall dumber than us Euro trash, but that there's a large percentage of the population pulling the avarage down.
That's one of the reasons I'm anti-Bush: spending an outrageous budget on Iraq while there's no social safety net nor equal access to education for his own people.
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[quote=KinKyJ]You know what the common element is these kind of threads have? Every American tends to take criticism personally. Dunno why that is, but some people need to start realising not everything is US bashing. Especially on a forum like MS where the overall IQ level is a tad higher than that from other boards I know...
Anyway, what Kobe says is exactly what those survey results mean. Not that Yanks are overall dumber than us Euro trash, but that there's a large percentage of the population pulling the avarage down.
That's one of the reasons I'm anti-Bush: spending an outrageous budget on Iraq while there's no social safety net nor equal access to education for his own people.[/quote]
not all of us take it personally. I could care less about stupid people. In fact I too enjoy making fun of them no matter what country they are from. I am not prejudice :roll:
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Those statistics don't really surprise me. I can tell that I'm in the miniscule minority (especially for my age) when it comes to not being an idiot about sweeping generalizations about the world, even in the Houston area.
Granted, it's a big metropolitan area, so there are some people who are down-to-earth / like-minded here. However, when the overwhelming majority allows itself to be turned into "sheeple" because of willing acts ignorance such as RE-electing Bush and watching MTV religiously, statistics like these seem to fit, even for metropolitan areas. It is a Texas city, so it's probably different from New York or LA, but the point should stand that the world is infested with idiots, and the US is definitely a part of the world.
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Rednecks are the cause of all the stupidity in the world. They've spread across the entire globe....and are REPRODUCING!!! :shock:
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[quote=evangelion]Rednecks are the cause of all the stupidity in the world. They've spread across the entire globe....and are REPRODUCING!!! :shock:[/quote]
they are spreading fast too [IMG]http://redneck414.tripod.com/278_bubba_big.jpg[/IMG]