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Pioneer Djm-800

54 durable postsStarted 2006-01-20Latest 2006-04-27

#22962Post 1 of 542006-01-20

[SIZE=6][COLOR=sandybrown][B]NICE 8) 8) 8) 8) [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[IMG]http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7895/djm8004ez.jpg[/IMG]

#546389Post 2 of 542006-01-20

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And the credit card take another hit.

#546393Post 3 of 542006-01-20

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how much $$?

#546400Post 4 of 542006-01-20

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$1499 is the suggested price

#546412Post 5 of 542006-01-20

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[quote=Caley Martin]$1499 is the suggested price[/quote]

Still not enough to make me ditch an Allen & Heath....

#546415Post 6 of 542006-01-20

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i was checking that out at the dj expo in my hotel last year @ wmc. thing made my pants stand out for sure! would love to get my fingers on that thing.

#546417Post 7 of 542006-01-20

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for that money get a xone 92 .

#546421Post 8 of 542006-01-20

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i would think this mixer has some cooler options. dont get me wrong i love Xone mixers. but i love pioneer mixers too. the effects look mighty interesting on this mixer. whereas the xone is limited to just a filter.

#546433Post 9 of 542006-01-20

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Just what the world needs, another DJ with flanger control.... Don't get me wrong, Pioneer's are great mixers. Solid, great sound and an all around club workhorse. I would never dissuade someone from purchasing one... except if it came down to an Xone or a URI.... If you want/need "effects" than the Pioneer is the way to go. If you want clean, uncluttered, colorless and noise free sound than it's either the XONE or URI....

#546451Post 10 of 542006-01-20

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[QUOTE=Jibgolly]i was checking that out at the dj expo in my hotel last year @ wmc. thing made my pants stand out for sure! would love to get my fingers on that thing.[/QUOTE]

You saw the 800 last year?

#546453Post 11 of 542006-01-20

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pretty sure they had it in the pioneer room. they had millions of dollars of gear on display. all hands on. although i was checking out some other pionner mixer too and may have them confused. but i think that was a pioneer 3000 i was looking at. a lot happened i dont remember so forgive me. :Who:

#546457Post 12 of 542006-01-20

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all is forgiven

#546490Post 13 of 542006-01-20

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I'd take an A&H over that anytime, but i'm not into FX anyway ;)

#546499Post 14 of 542006-01-20

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[B]19 January 2006:[/B] Pioneer Europe today unveils its new professional-grade mixer the DJM-800. Pure fidelity is delivered by the hi-end 96kHz/24 bit A/D converter that?s complemented by 61 assignable MIDI control channels and a landmark innovation, ?Harmonic Mixing? capability ? that detects a track?s key and automatically aligns it to the closest true key, removing inaccuracies created when adjusting the pitch. With digital connectivity, a large bright dot matrix display and a wide a range of high quality effects, the DJM-800 enables DJs to perfect pristine mixing.

Dedicated to finding new ways to improve the techniques available to DJs to create sensational sets: Pioneer achieved this with CD mixing and the genre-defining A/V deck, the DVJ-X1. And they have achieved it again with the DJM-800. It offers superlative digital performance, huge MIDI versatility and a new approach to harmonic mixing that replicates the way that DJs intuitively mix music. The innovation, combined with the unit?s sonic purity and a range of supporting features will advance mixing techniques ? it?s the type of breakthrough that clubs, professional DJs and the emerging generation of artists expect from Pioneer,? comments Jason Pook, product planning manager, Pioneer Europe. Sonic purity is a given from Pioneer and the DJM-800 inherits the high fidelity technology of its big brother the DJM-1000. The analogue signal from the player is immediately digitised (through the shortest possible route) by a pro A/D converter at 96kHz/24bit, reaching the ultra-powerful (32bit) Digital Signal Processor without deterioration of quality.

[IMG]http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5233/djm80037et.jpg[/IMG]

Digital inputs and outputs support transparent signal processing between Pioneer?s CDJ and DVJ series of digital decks delivering immaculate audio quality. With input frequencies of 44.1/48/96kHz and selectable output frequencies of between 48/96kHz it?s a perfect mixer not only for the club professional but also recording studios where high fidelity sound is required. Another key feature is the fully assignable MIDI function. This means that MIDI signals can be sent from almost all knobs and switches on the surface of the DJM-800 (a total of 61 assignable controls) to external midi equipment. With this level of MIDI flexibility, the DJM-800 can be used as a versatile interface to control any MIDI controllable lighting, software such as Ableton Live 5 and MIDI enabled video mixers. To extend the intuitive operation of the unit, optional rotary volume knobs are available to replace the main volume switches ? a feature that supports more subtle and precise mixing.

Extensive dialogue with some of the world?s top DJs and sound engineers provided the catalyst to create new, intuitive techniques to effect the perfect mix, resulting in ?sound colour effects? - a whole new style of DJ mixing. In music terms, if the DJ adjusts a track in the key of C by +3%, it slips out of the C band to between C and D. This makes it impossible to perform a perfect harmonic mix, unless harmonic tuning is applied. Harmonic tuning takes whatever key the source audio is in and adjusts the pitch until the key reaches a standard note. World class DJs currently spend thousands of hours learning the keys of their music and re-mastering their library to be in ?perfect pitch? - this innovation makes it that little bit easier to deliver smooth mixes time and again. The unit also offers ?filter?, ?sweep? and ?crush? effects through a highpass/lowpass filter, notch filter and bit crusher effect for all line channels.

In keeping with Pioneer?s relentless drive for innovation it has complemented its familiar effects with some new techniques for a package that includes: Echo, Delay, Reverse Delay, Pan, Transform, Filter, Flanger, Phaser, Reverb, Robot, Chorus, Roll and Reverse Roll. The effects automatically detect the BPM of the music and sync to the beats. In conjunction with the additional Digital Beat Effects, 50 combinations of effects are possible.

Like the DJM-1000, the DJM-800 also has the same high rigid chassis for minimizing unnecessary vibration that could adversely affect sound quality. It is based on the same layout and footprint as the DJM-600, providing the natural and familiar feel known to DJs across the world. It also incorporates a dual-shield structure for eliminating entry of digital noise and a high performance power supply.

[IMG]http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9245/dkm80024uv.jpg[/IMG]

Additional features The DJM-800 has a massive range of features. Some of the additional highlights include: Cross fader assign: to assign each channel?s input to the cross fader Fader curve adjust: to change the cross fader/channel fader curve Fader start: connect a Pioneer CDJ player with a control cable and playback can be started by simply sliding the cross fader or channel fader 3-Band Equalizer: a built-in equalizer on each channel enables level control within a ?26dB to +6dB range for high, mid & low bands, respectively Talk over: automatically attenuates the volume by -20db so an MC can talk over the track Mic signal cut: Eliminates the microphone sound output to the booth monitor to prevent feedback Peak level meter: Check the peak level of the input audio for each channel as well as the master Master output rotary knob Master output attenuation switch Twin mic level adjustment Optional rotary faders available (DJC-800RV)

The DJM-800 will be available from April ?06.

#546546Post 15 of 542006-01-20

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That mixer looks pretty cool but right now I think a A&H is the way to go. I try to save up to get a new mixer here pretty soon.

#546555Post 16 of 542006-01-20

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I agree, it looks like I could have a lot of fun on it but unless you've played on/heard an A&H it's hard to explain... Kinda think of it as if you're going from this:

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/dustedvinyl/aaaaa.jpg[/IMG]

To this:

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/dustedvinyl/aaaa.jpg[/IMG]

#546558Post 17 of 542006-01-20

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to each their own... it'd be very hard for me to decide which one to buy. maybe A&H will decide to lower their prices if this thing gives them any kind of competition. doubt it, but i definitely would not be heart broken if either one was handed to me.

#546564Post 18 of 542006-01-20

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[quote=Garrick]to each their own... it'd be very hard for me to decide which one to buy. maybe A&H will decide to lower their prices if this thing gives them any kind of competition. doubt it, but i definitely would not be heart broken if either one was handed to me.[/quote]

Even better would be if the mixer was in one of the cars....

#546568Post 19 of 542006-01-20

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lol! :)

that'd cause a nice wreck. i heard the djm-800 will even cook you breakfast.

#546653Post 20 of 542006-01-20

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Wow thats got some really nice features. One thing I really hate about pioneers mixers though is the build quality. Little things like the headphone jack, after a while they get screwed up becase there is no support for them like with the a&h mixers.

#546679Post 21 of 542006-01-20

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Optional rotary faders available (DJC-800RV) :D

#549459Post 22 of 542006-01-20

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I like the option of rotary faders. I'd like to see a set of rotary's for the 600. I'd buy that for a dollar!

The 800 looks nice and all but for the price I'd get a xone 92. Way better soundcards in it and more eq to mess with, and better faders to go with it too.

#549502Post 23 of 542006-01-20

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it looks the same as the other pioneer mixers... pioneer sound quality in my opinion just sucks compared to A&H... its really harsh.

#549512Post 24 of 542006-01-20

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Personally, I'm not really impressed. Like everyone else has said, the 92 is a much better option. I don't know how Pioneer thinks this thing can compete with it.

#549522Post 25 of 542006-01-20

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Damn, I guess I really need to try the Xone 92. I have always played on a Pioneer 500 or 600 and thought it was the best thing in the world, didnt know it could get much better, but from what I have read, looks like I have been missing out:shock:

#549523Post 26 of 542006-01-20

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^ you have ;)

incredible difference.

#549542Post 27 of 542006-01-21

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It's like butta......... ( the 92)

#549550Post 28 of 542006-01-21

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I had a xone92 breakthrough last night, the butter melted...

#550600Post 29 of 542006-01-24

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:(:( i want 1

#550766Post 30 of 542006-01-24

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i was looking at xone mixers on ebay and look what i found [URL="http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Frito-Lay-Fridge-Xone-3-IN-1-Grill-Cooler-Backpack_W0QQitemZ7212922665QQcategoryZ1526QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Frito-Lay-Fridge-Xone-3-IN-1-Grill-Cooler-Backpack_W0QQitemZ7212922665QQcategoryZ1526QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/URL]

that thing is pretty sweet

#550769Post 31 of 542006-01-24

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^ the ultimate outdoor party tool. i wonder if i could turn it into a meth lab?

#550809Post 32 of 542006-01-24

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[quote=geoffgulley]Still not enough to make me ditch an Allen & Heath....[/quote]

amen! however the djm 800 does look great.

#554706Post 33 of 542006-02-02

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So sweet...oh man...want some pioneer cdj's with these

#554716Post 34 of 542006-02-02

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I've never heard a difference between the two. Does someone have a set recorded using a Pioneer mixer then an Allen & Heath mixer or at least something where I can hear the difference?

#557794Post 35 of 542006-02-02

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Wow. that's a strange question. Would anyone actually spend the time to really find that out by doing a replica set on two different mixers.

I know I'm playing it Pittsburgh this next Saturday after the Paolo Mojo night and It'll be my second time on 1000's and my first time on a Xone 62. I'm really excited and a bit nervous!

#557859Post 36 of 542006-02-02

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Yeah. Right now I have a Pioneer mixer and there's no motivation for me to change to an A&H aside from everyone saying that they sound better.

#557886Post 37 of 542006-02-02

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Zendo next time I have one of my friends over that has a 500 I will have him bring it over. I won't do a whole set but will do a track so you can see the difference. Although I can tell you already that there will be some inconsistancies because the A&H have a line level record out where, IIRC, the 500's don't and you actually have to adjust the master level to a reasonable level but at the same time try not to be too hot.

#557918Post 38 of 542006-02-03

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Much appreciated.

#557920Post 39 of 542006-02-03

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damn!

#557982Post 40 of 542006-02-03

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for that price initially, go with A&H...or hold out till later this year and it will inevitably drop down in price a bit...