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[quote=razvan] semirecreational use will almost always lead to regular use ... Not today ... not tomorow ... but with time youll want more and more ... and youll say ... Aaaah wtf ... there`s no way I can become addicted ... let me have some more ... And all this because once your body gets used to it ... you will need more and more and more ... and more ...[/quote]

thats true, but you cant get addicted if u cant afford to have it every day. I as a student and some part time job can aford it 3-4 times a month, so for now it is impossible. When i graduate, i will probbably become a good guy, without charlie. :Honest: :Tongue:

[quote=acmatos][quote=CatZ]Good "E" is damn hard to come by... unless you make it yourself :)[/quote]

move to Miami! never seems to be a problem there. I made it out while I still could. Been back three times already this year. :HolyShit: Miami es miami!!!![/quote]

No offence dude, but you are only 23, you would never have taken a REAL ecstacy pill (unless you started in junior school) :wink:

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Sometimes its really ironic to see the results of technological development. The size of the quid of coca leaves that can be comfortably accomodated by a person is such that it is unlikely that coca chewing, as practiced for centuries in places like Macchu Piccu, presents the dangers that may result from the modern forms of recreational use. What a pity for the modern world!! ..its also impresive to realise that the most people act as a big crowd of sheeps and they accept everything without really think what is best for themselves and the environment..in that way only the "big heads" survive in the name of glory and money..what a shame for the rest of the world.. Its true that the effects of coca leaves are not so strong as the processed powder but..God made grass..man made booze..who do you trust??? I wish all people could think in a better and more beneficial way so our world would have been more pleasant in all aspects..

I can only back up what the report has stated.I work in a substance misuse clinic for the nhs here in the UK.I can honestly not remember the last referral we had for people absuing pills.It is always heroin, but cocaine is rapidly increasing.Its just the drug of fashion at the minute.Its an absolute nightmare to get off as well (or so i've been told)For heroin you can medically substitute it,but not so for cocaine.

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I'm sure i heard that cocaine isn't physically addictive and in my own experiences i would agree with this, i think it's the social aspect that becomes habitual, if i cane a couple of G over a weekend, i dont crave for it the day after or anything, i recently gave up smoking after 20 years, and that was addictive, i went through hell, i'm not advocating the use of cocaine or anything, it sure is bad for you, but the conception that you will become "hooked" is rubbish imo.

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Shiit, Jason Lopark from Little Rock. I saw you spin at Checkmate last year. Have you made it out to the Aquarium yet? It rocks.

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[quote=chemicalbeavis]I'm sure i heard that cocaine isn't physically addictive[/quote]

Well, I guess you heard wrong. Cocaine can cause a terrible physical addiction, which is supposedly much worse than the heroin addiction. It is not as easy to get addicted, but once you are, the way out is very hard to find.

[quote=chemicalbeavis] and in my own experiences i would agree with this, i think it's the social aspect that becomes habitual, if i cane a couple of G over a weekend, i dont crave for it the day after or anything, i recently gave up smoking after 20 years, and that was addictive, i went through hell, i'm not advocating the use of cocaine or anything, it sure is bad for you, but the conception that you will become "hooked" is rubbish imo.[/quote]

Nope it's hard physical addiction with craving, shaking and everything else included. I once read an article why all the south American Indians never developped any form of addiction although constantly chewing coke leaves. It is because coke leaf itself contains an antidote against the addictive substances. so, basically coke leaves contain the "venom" and the "antidote". But cocaine is produced by removing the antidote substances, thus strengthening its effects and making it... ...yup, addictive... :mrgreen: But do not forget: IT IS NOT THAT EASY TO BECOME HOOKED ON COCAINE, but once you are, it's usually too late. So it's best to avoid regular use... :wink:

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[quote=brakada][quote=chemicalbeavis]I'm sure i heard that cocaine isn't physically addictive[/quote]

Well, I guess you heard wrong. Cocaine can cause a terrible physical addiction, which is supposedly much worse than the heroin addiction. It is not as easy to get addicted, but once you are, the way out is very hard to find.

[quote=chemicalbeavis] and in my own experiences i would agree with this, i think it's the social aspect that becomes habitual, if i cane a couple of G over a weekend, i dont crave for it the day after or anything, i recently gave up smoking after 20 years, and that was addictive, i went through hell, i'm not advocating the use of cocaine or anything, it sure is bad for you, but the conception that you will become "hooked" is rubbish imo.[/quote]

Nope it's hard physical addiction with craving, shaking and everything else included. I once read an article why all the south American Indians never developped any form of addiction although constantly chewing coke leaves. It is because coke leaf itself contains an antidote against the addictive substances. so, basically coke leaves contain the "venom" and the "antidote". But cocaine is produced by removing the antidote substances, thus strengthening its effects and making it... ...yup, addictive... :mrgreen: But do not forget: IT IS NOT THAT EASY TO BECOME HOOKED ON COCAINE, but once you are, it's usually too late. So it's best to avoid regular use... :wink:[/quote]

thats garbage, there is no physical addiction associated with cocaine use. find an article that says otherwise...

^^^absolutely, i have NEVER heard of a cocaine "addict" :roll:

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[url=http://www.focusas.com/Cocaine.html]Cocaine[/url]

I don?t think that cocaine is pycsically addictive, although it would be difficult to prove either way. No scientist is going to delcare that is isn?t, especailly in the USA. They?d lose their funding straight away.

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I'm sure crackheads and cokeheads steal, lie, and whore themselves because of the "social aspect" of the drug. :roll:

I'm not anti-drug in the least, but I hate it when people lie to themselves about the drugs they use. But in my experience, that is usually what happens anyway with prolonged use.

Be careful and educated, kiddo's.

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Well i gotta say that i have know 2 guys that got into some serious problems with cocaine (no not me ya fuckers) Both were guys that actually dealt the stuff out and both snorted as much as they sold. When i asked them they said they sold it just to fund their habbit. It wasnt just a weekend thing either, they were at it all through the week too.

I think its down to the persons own willpower and human makeup as to wether you`ll find yourself addicted or not, i myself only do coke on the occasional weekend and do not for one instance think about it during the week.

Just my two penneth.

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Sorry, my bad... Coke doesn't cause physical addiction, it causes a psychological addiction, because of physiological changes in the brain. I get a little confused with all the definitions. But anyway, extensive and regular use is bad, like with any other drug...

...except our sweet Mary Jane. :wink: :Blazed: :Blazed:

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[quote=weswood]Shiit, Jason Lopark from Little Rock. I saw you spin at Checkmate last year. Have you made it out to the Aquarium yet? It rocks.[/quote]

That's me :)

No, not yet. I spend most of my time at work and home now. I don't DJ anymore, just produce. Heh, I'm pretty boring these days, but I'll be moving to San Francisco by the end of the year so I'm happy about that.

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What the hell is "charlie"?

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Ahhh...just figured it out

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So, Coke is the new E? or is coke back in favor after old coke heads got tired of E. :D

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[quote=hypoluxxa]So, Coke is the new E? or is coke back in favor after old coke heads got tired of E. :D[/quote] isn't C2 is the new Coke... 1/2 the political, all the party! :roll: :roll: :roll: more marketing BS! :FuckOff:

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[quote=esef] isn't C2 is the new Coke... [/quote]

That stuff is awful. Tastes just like diet coke to me. Yuck! :Wasted:

[quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^absolutely, i have NEVER heard of a cocaine "addict" :roll:[/quote]

you'd better learn the difference between physical and psychological addiction before you get all pissy. physical addiction causes withdrawals, usually quite nasty ones - people usually experience extreme flu symptoms. things like opiates and nicotine cause withdrawals. hell, benzodiazapine (things like valium, xanax) withdrawals can KILL you. cocaine, on the other hand, does not cause withdrawals...the body does not become dependant on it, only the mind. which is why its not as addictive as other classes of drugs. :EvilFlic:

[quote=day_for_night]you'd better learn the difference between physical and psychological addiction before you get all pissy. [/quote] what about being addicted to drinking Coke C2 and looking at pictures of [url=http://www.dicktreat.com/first-huge-gay-cock/full/pic04.jpg]pink unicorns[/url] :unsure:

ah, c'mon everyone ... why not some good ol' alice dee??? :D

what's this 2c-i stuff i've been hearing a lot about lately?

charlie sucks... it's not THAT much fun.

[quote=esef]and looking at pictures of [url=http://www.dicktreat.com/first-huge-gay-cock/full/pic04.jpg]pink unicorns[/url] :unsure:[/quote]

GODDAMNIT !!!! that was something i'd do. i'm disgusted and have to take another shower. Ughh. :Wasted:

[quote=vizon] what's this 2c-i stuff i've been hearing a lot about lately? [/quote]

2,5-Dimethoxy-4-Iodophenethylamine

a phenethylamine, similar to 2cb...its a 'research' chemical. not illegal at the moment, but i think it'll go the way of 2ct2 and 2ct7. dose is 10-25 mg, effects last 5-8 hrs, similar to ecstacy, but with visuals and much less sketchiness.

[quote=day_for_night][quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^absolutely, i have NEVER heard of a cocaine "addict" :roll:[/quote]

you'd better learn the difference between physical and psychological addiction before you get all pissy. physical addiction causes withdrawals, usually quite nasty ones - people usually experience extreme flu symptoms. things like opiates and nicotine cause withdrawals. hell, benzodiazapine (things like valium, xanax) withdrawals can KILL you. cocaine, on the other hand, does not cause withdrawals...the body does not become dependant on it, only the mind. which is why its not as addictive as other classes of drugs. :EvilFlic:[/quote]

Not quite sure what angle you are approaching from here, i certainly know the difference between physical and psychological addiction, i'm not pissy, and as for the finger......back at ya sporto :wink:

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cocaine? amphetamine? [img]http://mm.nan2d.com/fun/creamy.gif[/img]

[quote=CatZ]Good "E" is damn hard to come by... unless you make it yourself :)[/quote]

U aint lying...totaly sux anymore.....so who knows how to make it?

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my neighbour was making metaamfetamins at home, some cooking, some chemistry, u can have it over for 30min. but sadly, he was cought becouse he ran out of the apartment in underpants, jogging in the 3 in the morning. :Wacko:

i had at home the recepie for E-s, but my HD died 2 months ago, so i lost everything. there was some book, like an anarchist guide book or something, and u had it all in. :Honest:

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The only recreational drugs that form physical addiction are heroin, alcohol and nicottine Anything else is a psychological addiction which simply means that the user wants the feeling/high again, not that the body becomes dependant on the substance in their system

[quote]A bit of a smoke is not a drug habit.[/quote] [quote]But anyway, extensive and regular use is bad, like with any other drug... except our sweet Mary Jane.[/quote]

Don't underestimate the regular use of ANY substance I've seen more peoples lives ruined by marajuana than any other drug, including heroin

There are no drugs that are better or worse than each other, even heroin can be used safely and recreationally without addiction, its not the one hit and you're hooked that you hear about Technically heroin is actually one of the cleanest drugs you can take... that won't get me ever trying it but if you want to find justifications for any drug, there's many for every one of them

Its simply the abuse of a substance which causes problems, not the drug itself

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[url=http://www.axelraben.com/sahihi/drugSeries/default.htm]know your enemy[/url]

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[quote=Villu]God made grass..man made booze..who do you trust??? [/quote]

:RockOn: :RockOn:

-e-

Actually alcohol is made from a natural process of exposing yeast to sugar, its hardly man made, just a recipe Things like champagne were created by accident

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Coke is great untill

1. you try and sleep but you're still buzzing.
2. you try and sleep but your nose hurts too much.
3. You rack up a ?200 tick list with your dealer that needs to be paid today :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: fdsf

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[quote=turban]Coke is great untill

1. you try and sleep but you're still buzzing.
2. you try and sleep but your nose hurts too much.
3. You rack up a ?200 tick list with your dealer that needs to be paid today :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: fdsf[/quote]

I can't advise on the bill with your dealer, but if you have trouble sleeping because of substances melatonin works great. Its available at your local health food store and its what your body naturally uses to put you to sleep or make you tired. Its also one of the most powerful antioxidants known to man (1000x vitamin C), some consider it an anti-aging drug.

^^^pffft, Diazepam all the way man, if you can't get hold of these try Valium, douple of 10s should see you off to sleep nicely :wink:

[quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^pffft, Diazepam all the way man, if you can't get hold of these try Valium, douple of 10s should see you off to sleep nicely :wink:[/quote]

Voice of experience there. :lol:

Me i prefer a large reefer, if that doesn?t work roll a bigger one. :wink:

[quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^pffft, Diazepam all the way man, if you can't get hold of these try Valium, douple of 10s should see you off to sleep nicely :wink:[/quote]

Mazziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis Get a few of them down ya with a good helping of beer and a few dashes of poppers. Myyyyyyyyyyyy what a feeling that is.. or isnt.

This one time, my mate had quite a few mazzi`s in the pub on a Saturday afternoon with a generous helping of Stella, all seemed to be going well untill he stepped outside into the fresh air. Next thing i saw was his legs just calling it a day and him collapsing head first onto the pavement.. funny as fuck. Needless to say he never felt or remembered a thing. Ahhh the days :LoveYou:

[quote=day_for_night][quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^absolutely, i have NEVER heard of a cocaine "addict" :roll:[/quote]

you'd better learn the difference between physical and psychological addiction before you get all pissy. physical addiction causes withdrawals, usually quite nasty ones - people usually experience extreme flu symptoms. things like opiates and nicotine cause withdrawals. hell, benzodiazapine (things like valium, xanax) withdrawals can KILL you. cocaine, on the other hand, does not cause withdrawals...the body does not become dependant on it, only the mind. which is why its not as addictive as other classes of drugs. :EvilFlic:[/quote]

a-fucking-men. I was about to go on a tirade...then realized the lovely d4n had done it for me in numerous replies.

some of you guys really need to gain more knowledge before spitting BS at people.

Oh and BTW...you fucktards who sit there and make drugs like 2ci common knowledge are the ones who get it mainstream --> scheduled :DumbAss: :Die:

EDIT: Double post deleted.

[quote=Morgan][quote=chemicalbeavis]^^^pffft, Diazepam all the way man, if you can't get hold of these try Valium, douple of 10s should see you off to sleep nicely :wink:[/quote]

Voice of experience there. :lol:

Me i prefer a large reefer, if that doesn?t work roll a bigger one. :wink:[/quote]

Yeah great idea! Lets use more drugs to get back to normal. Sounds like the responsible thing to do.