effective thursday at midnight there is going to be a strike for the entire mass transit system of new york city. unless negotiations get somewhere before then, but from what i have been seeing the negotiations aren't going well.

a couple of links to some of whats going on....

[url]http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/[/url]

[URL="http://www.fox5ny.com/_ezpost/data/31888.shtml"]http://www.fox5ny.com/_ezpost/data/31888.shtml[/URL]

[URL="http://www.fox5ny.com/_ezpost/data/31887.shtml"]http://www.fox5ny.com/_ezpost/data/31887.shtml[/URL]

this looks like a huge mess in the making for everyone involved. they say there was a similar strike in nyc back in the 80's and it worked out after about a week with no real problems. of course that strike was in april and not during freezing weather.

what do you do in cases like this? people will be walking all day just to get to work?

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yous guys are fucked

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OMDL. If that happened. That city would literally stop. And if you listened very closely, you could probably hear it. Take lots of photos. As I have a NYC addiction.

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I look forward to this...I already have Friday and Monday off and I'm gonna be rockin it to Tiefschwarz Thursday night...bring on the madness! :twisted: :D

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[QUOTE=rubyraks]I look forward to this...I already have Friday and Monday off and I'm gonna be rockin it to Tiefschwarz Thursday night...bring on the madness! :twisted: :D[/QUOTE]

T-schwarz hell yeah

warning siren would be one hell of a track to hear live

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I can't wait! but I did hear them play it earlier this year ;)

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[QUOTE=rubyraks]I look forward to this...I already have Friday and Monday off and I'm gonna be rockin it to Tiefschwarz Thursday night...bring on the madness! :twisted: :D[/QUOTE]

should be awesome! enjoy (i am jealous)

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I hope it happens gives me the weekend to study for finals...

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GOD DAMNNED UNIONS. you deserve nothing. do what the real world does when they want more money, WORK HARDER.

if you want more money go to college. you drive a bus ffs.

my sister is a teacher in NYC schools and she might have off on friday. this is gonna fuck up my day big time. this is really gonna fuck up the sity as its tourist central for the next 2 weeks.

also i love how the judge implemented the 25,000 a day fine for EVERY EMPLOYEE.

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PS, to the NY people. you see that shit about what happened on queens BLVD today??

some of the drivers and mechanics took to the streets again today stopping traffic so someone who had enough of it let off his brake and began rolling through em. someone hit his hood with a bat and he floored it, taking out a few of these assholes. there was a cartman like sense of satisfaction that i felt after seeing it on news 12.

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25k/day fine for every strikee? sweeet

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yep, sweeeet. i cant stand these NY unions after 9/11. cept the cops and firemen, they dont get nearly enough pay. a client of mine who is a contractor had sent down a fleet of their trucks for HAZMAT cleanup for 9/11 and the fucking local boys told em to get out. so the foreman said fuck off and they had a huge fight. the mayors office told the locals to give it up and the next day the windows on the trucks were broken. scumbags, all of em

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From what I know about NYC FD and PD, they are filled with assholes. Mostly they still think they should be treated like gods because they lost some friends on 9-11. Big shit the whole world lost a lot of friends that day.

Sightless I love that other post about the guy on Queens BLVD. That shit is hilarious. I wish it was on internet news so I could read more about it and laugh my ass off.

But I will give it to the transit workers. They really know how to bring attention to their cause.

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[quote=thesightless]GOD DAMNNED UNIONS. you deserve nothing. do what the real world does when they want more money, WORK HARDER.

if you want more money go to college. you drive a bus ffs.[/quote]

:roll: Then who drives the buses? I love the assertion that these people are somehow lazy, AFAIK they work pleanty hard and probably don't spend much time posting bullshit on the internet all day while they do it either. Why they are undeserving of anything, simply because they are lowly transit workers? The world [i]needs[/i] ditch diggers. And you know what? It's an honest living, a thankless job, and if they feel they deserve a bit more, who are any of us to say they don't?

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any word on this? are there strikers striking?

[quote=Kobe]Then who drives the buses? I love the assertion that these people are somehow lazy, AFAIK they work pleanty hard and probably don't spend much time posting bullshit on the internet all day while they do it either. Why they are undeserving of anything, simply because they are lowly transit workers? The world needs ditch diggers. And you know what? It's an honest living, a thankless job, and if they feel they deserve a bit more, who are any of us to say they don't?[/quote] some days, after long boring office days, i think to myself that I would appreciate a job that involves a lot of manual labor instead of the crap i do sometimes today. something where I can see progress, feel good about myself at the end of the day, and not have to stress over work time and time again. office space-ish, i guess.

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a few updates added in the link below. its been covered from so many angles on the news i don't where to start and the strike hasn't even started yet.

[url]http://www.fox5ny.com/_ezpost/data/11459.shtml[/url]

just scroll through the stories and you will get idea of whats going on.

its crazy the amounts of the fines involved, and the new rules set by the city all cars during working hours have to have 4 people in them. all cabs have to be shared and car pooling lots are being set up so people can ride together. and the list goes on.

last night and today the union and the city will continue to meet but it doesn't look good. although the union has changed their demands from an 8%/year raise for three years to 6%/year over three years.

i feel its gonna happen. at least it is at the end of the week. hopefully they can work things out quick enough that the entire next week won't be messed up like this.

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As my new apartment is 7 blocks from my job, this shant affect me too much, but it should be interesting to see unfold. We had the order at work that anyone involved on the production side of things (that includes me and my dept) is required to be here regardless, and there is a carpool organization thingy in place...

fun fun fun.

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If this happens things are really going to be a mess for a lot of people. Good Luck b/c the way it sounds like all hell is going to break lose tonight.

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There was apparently an email sent out that we need to come into work as well-but for fucks sake I don't think I'm gonna walk across the fucking Williamsburg Bridge and then up to 38th and Broadway.............

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it's Howard Stern's fault........:p

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is anyone going to have to sleep at work to pull this off? have anyone's bosses metioned sleeping at work?

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I'm willing to sleep with some people at work!

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[QUOTE=miketpoto]I'm willing to sleep with some people at work![/QUOTE] yes but are they?!

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:lol:

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[quote=miketpoto]As my new apartment is 7 blocks from my job, this shant affect me too much, but it should be interesting to see unfold. We had the order at work that anyone involved on the production side of things (that includes me and my dept) is required to be here regardless, and there is a carpool organization thingy in place...

fun fun fun.[/quote]

7 blocks in NYC is quite a walk. And even more in the snow and rain. EEEK.

But hey to live in the great city, I'd do that with a smile on my face. I'm just weird like that.

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many of the unions have kind of lost what they're intentions were...

"Your salary is equivalent to the type of job you do, how well you do it, and how easily you can be replaced.." - Earl Nightingale

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well, its about to start, they are selectively shutting down lines one by one starting in queens and brooklyn and working into manhatten..... TWATS> they turned down a 9% pay raise.

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:RightOn:

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Thank [EMAIL="G@d"]G@d[/EMAIL] only partial strike. although im not quite sure what that means

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OK, they are shutting down a lot of the bus lines in queens and brooklyn this afternoon, then they will begin shutting the manhatten lines and move onto the subway lines. the MTA has said they can take the 9% raise or walk away. State law presiding over the union walkout issues stems from the mid 1980's strikes in NYC and now allows the state to fine each member of the union the 25,000 a day they strike until they officialy reseign thier jobs, furthermore, NYS, upon the strike, can now move unto seeking new employees for the trains and buses (thank god), as well as continuing to fine the union heads and the union itself. there is a time limit(i dont know it) where the NYS governer and attorney general can seek federal approval to circumvent the union contracts and privatize the employees. gonna be really shitty to deal with this, and even worse once the violence starts.

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whoever is not happy with a guarranteed 9% raise over 3 years... i'd take that anyday. can't pay 2% of annual salary for healthcare? for most people in the city the healthcare costs nearly 4%, that's for those lucky enough to have coverage. check out free lancers who pay an arm and a leg to HIP. get real

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i know, they are bus drivers. its not like they are teachers, nurses, or the cops and firemen. the cops and firemen, who BTW, have the shittiest jobs on the planet, dealt with no contract for 3 years. nothing like having to deal with gang violence, rape and fucking crackheads who shoot at you for 27,000 a year while someone who did nothing with thier life sits on their ass for 4-6 hours a day for triple that, with great health care and a pention for 25 years of work.

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there is a bit more to it than just that though. i feel that thier requests for more terrorism training is something that should have been handled years ago. the whole transit system has gotta be one of the easiest targets. in my mind sure everyone wants a raise, but the mta just got done pumping billions into all kinds of things without any of it going to employees or their training. i feel that the union has a right to call them out on this.

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[quote=daveman]there is a bit more to it than just that though. i feel that thier requests for more terrorism training is something that should have been handled years ago. the whole transit system has gotta be one of the easiest targets. in my mind sure everyone wants a raise, but the mta just got done pumping billions into all kinds of things without any of it going to employees or their training. i feel that the union has a right to call them out on this.[/quote]

i think they have already agreed on that... they said that the remaining points are wages, pension, disciplinary actions and healthcare, so i assume that the anti-terrorist issues have been agreed upon

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I believe the were okay with the 9% over three years. The big issue is the pension age, which the MTA wanted to raise from 55 years old to 62. As part of the negotiaions, they offered to grandfather in existing employees, leaving new hires out. The union is holding their ground.

So far in this thread the union has taken a beating, but the MTA has certainly shown bad faith in waiting till now to really get serious about the discussion. And that was a ver classy move by Kaliow to wait till one hour before the deadline to show up for the negotiations. I guess he might have been out driving one of his 20 Ferraris. So sorry to bother you, Petey....

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Hey Jeffrey, 7 blocks in NYC nuthin.... it's slightly more than a 1/4 of a mile...

20 blocks = 1 mile.

1 avenue block = 2 street blocks.

3 feet in Times Square or Herald square = full of hate I want to kill

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hey poto, any luck getting your co-workers to join you in an office slumber party?

could bring the meaning of secret santa to a whole new level.

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good one Mike. I just remember the blocks in midtown where my friend lives that I stayed at on 8th ave, and those blocks seemed pretty long.

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lol, i swear i just pictured poto running around in a pair of carson daly PJ's with kurt loder reporting chaos has broken out in MTV studios

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:lol: