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[QUOTE=nick007;1004083]Wouldn't it be interesting if you were wrong.[/QUOTE]

yes it would ;)

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There are energies (positive / negative / good / bad) around us that we can't (normally) see, touch or control, but, I believe that sometimes these energies are able to gain sufficient control of their abilities and their surroundings under the right circumstances (such as humans performing amazing feats under adrenaline fueled states of mind) and that's when the spiritual realm makes itself known. Whether I would call them Angels or Demons is up for debate, but yes the supernatural forces are more than present.

The most effective one for me in my life has been Karma. It has a funky way of coming around.

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The Christian Devil doen't exist, because the Chistian God doesn't exist.

But the Devil as a metaphor is very real

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[video=youtube;DEL8Pn2A9KA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEL8Pn2A9KA[/video]

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Amazing story, Nick.

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[QUOTE=nick007;1004082]When i was a policeman in the early 90's i was in the occult related crimes unit for about 18 months where we dealt with a lot of children who were dabbling in satanism, killing cats in blood sacrifices, taking blood oath with the devil etc and we would take them to churches if they wanted help to try and come out from it.

A couple of examples

I knew a particular pastor of a local church who was quite well known for his deliverance ministry (exorcism but not the catholic way) where he would just pray over people and these demons would manifest themselves with different voices (once witnessed a girl speak and act about 50 diffent ways (personalities or demons) within 3 hours. And all he would say was "in the name of jesus get out " and they would leave and the next one would manifest and he would start again.

Wewere helping a young girl when she excused herself and went to the toilet. When she came back she said in a mans voice that she was going to die because she had drunk toilet cleaner. As I rushed to go and check that it was true my bible fell off a chair and open on Mark chapter 16 which says 'they will drive out demons in Jesus name and drink deadly poison and will not be harmed, they will lay hands on the sick and they will be well" and watched as she vomited all the cleaner up and as we prayed for her she was fine.

All i am saying is that I have seen these kind of things with my own eyes and it is pretty difficult not to believe that there is a spiritual realm around us fighting for and against us.[/QUOTE] Thats an incredible story nick!

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How about we sacrifice DJ Pauly D and call it a satanic ritual...Because listening to him DJ would have to be as close to hell as it gets.

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[QUOTE=phuck'm-up;1004422]How about we sacrifice DJ Pauly D and call it a satanic ritual...Because listening to him DJ would have to be as close to hell as it gets.[/QUOTE]

and what are the deets on the ritual itself? i don't happen to have a manual nearby.

from what i recall, we need to tie him to a dj booth, then cut him open with ortofons. after that i forget...i think the blood is supposed to spill into the pitch adjuster on the tt's...

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[QUOTE=toasty;238318]I love this, because this always gets some folks whipped into a serious froth. The idea that Jesus wasn't lily-white or that he may have even been -- gasp -- black is too much for some to handle (not referring to anyone on here, mind you, just religious folks in general). I've always thought it was absurd, though, given where Jesus lived geographically, to think that he wasn't olive-skinned or darker. Was Jesus black? I've got no problem believing that, but I think dark-skinned is more likely. The idea that [B]he[/B] was a garden-variety white guy, though, as he's often depicted, just strains credibility, IMO.[/QUOTE]

"HE"??????

I understand. It's the years and years of patriarchy brainwashing you to subconsciously assert that jesus must have been male, and while I can't necessarily determine if your utterance maliciously omitted the female sex based on the aforementioned integrated sexism within your conscience, I'm almost certain that your political incorrectness will be forgiven after a few months of submissive penance (basically, anger management classes and anti-sexism education).

just don't make that mistake again. (and since i'm being helpful, the correct terminology is "she/he/it"

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[QUOTE=bart_smastard;239136]CDJ could you please list all offences for me in the bible where it is acceptable for the person to be stonned to death or killed in another such manner .. Just so i could judge all the contradictions on judging[/QUOTE]

could you type out the links to the most recent occurrence of bible-prompted/inspired stoning, starting with the most recent example first and working your way back until you have to hunt down micro-fiche.

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^What he said