Re: Seb Fontaine Savages ?Progressive? House
[quote=chuckc]think I’ve always been a prog DJ. Progressive house is forward thinking dance music,” Warren suggested, “There’s this whole electro fad at the moment, I’ve never gone down that route. There’s a few interesting tracks but I think a lot of it lacks energy
I am fully in agreement with old man warren....his statements speek the truth....
espcially PROGRESSIVE HOUSE IS FORWARD THINKING DANCE MUSIC....obviously sebs brain is to miniscule to understand real music[/quote]
Some food for thought. Everyone says progressive is "forward thinking" - i used to agree with that statement, but not anymore. If the prog heads are so "forward thinking" then why do they put up a barrier around prog every time a new genre picks up steam. its like - oh shit tech house is getting popular, well instead of changing the music to incorporate new sounds and ideas(moving the music FORWARD), the progsters just say no that shit sucks its a fad if you play that trendy shit you dont belong in progressive, lets keep it just how it is. please explain the logic to me.
all i can say is - when i started listening to prog, it was a different animal then it is today. listen to hernans funky deep and tribal, then his first perfecto cd - they were fucking sick!!! then listen to renainssance masters 2 - do you see the desparity? hernan is VERY talented, i would be an idiot to say otherwise, but for those of you to think he didnt take the "obvious route", well, your in denial. I am not ripping on hernan whatsoever, so dont even try. and if you can't see the difference between funky deep n tribal, and ren masters 2 - do not respond to my post.
i for one do not think producers like tiefschwarz, steve bug, phonique, and others will be remembered as just a fad. it's fine if you don't like there productions, style, or even their face, thats fine really - but to say they are just putting out music without any substance or talent is just dumb, and now its my turn to call you an idiot.
i just always assumed prog would take elements from other areas and make them there own, not completly dismiss them like they are crap. with this whole "electro" being a fad, seb was right, it has changed dancefloors for the better. for those of you who say you like it deep, well fuck minimal is just naturally deeper then the "dark prog" (imo dark prog doesnt exisit anymore). so i just dont understand all the hate the prog community displays for the rest of the scene.
at the moment, prog shares more properties with trance then anything else, and i guess that doesn't bother anyone else. with djs like oakenfold, avb, and TIESTO playing prog tracks, isnt that disconcerning for anyone else?
music goes in cycles, just like many fassets of life (fashion, cinema, tv, etc). there was a serious lull in the scene about 1.5-2 years ago. the end of '03 to the beggining of '04 saw a lot of changes in the face of prog, why? because trance noticed. they realized people were leaving trance for prog, so they incorporated prog into there sets, and that carried over and changed prog completly.
chuckc - im not speaking to you personally, but to everyone who shares the idea that the guys who are doing new innovative things in music are just porvayers of some stupid fad. you guys should think about how that attitidue reflects to everyone else in the scene. im not saying seb is god or even that i like seb, he has always played lots of cheeze in the past, but im pretty sure hes seen a lot more dancefloors then anyone of you...
so what im saying is, modern day progressive seems to me is anything but "forward thinking", of course it depends on whos listening, but shutting out the new to retain the old is hardly a way to move forward.
peoples exposures and influences are what really helps shapes peoples taste, i understand some people find a niche and never want to leave(because its perfect the way it is), others (like myself) are never satisfied where there at, and jump at any oppurtunity to see what else is out there.
and to say his brain is to miniscule to understand real dance music....you didnt understand what he way saying. he was saying it had gotten boring, thats all. I understand lots of material i think is utterly boring, like algebra, i hate it, it puts me to sleep, but i understand the concepts. there are math professors probobly reading this saying that mother fucking algebra hater, if he had any intelligence at all he'd realize how fucking sick algebra really is....get it guys?