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A lot of the problem is that so many of the troops are out fighting "wars" in different counturies. Resources are spread too thin to react in time to a crisis of this size in a timely fashion. 2 billion has already been spent on the "war" in Iraq. Bush needs a reality check stop thinking about his greed and start thinking about the people.
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[quote=DreamGirlie]http://www.homesforkatrina.com/
[url]http://www.openyourhome.com/[/url][/quote]
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^Have you stopped drinking Guiness long enough to form an intelligent thought?
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[quote=EvenSteven]^Have you stopped drinking Guiness long enough to form an intelligent thought?[/quote]
Whats Guiness? We only have Guinness here.
Care to clarify Steve? :roll:
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I wouldn't blame Bush for doing nothing. From the outsider perspective I have by watching TV and reading newspaper, it looks to me like it is all a bit unorganized and I don't know if you guys in America are aware of this but the World asks itself why it takes so long to help people and why they do it on their own only. We had a (not comparable to the Hurricane because it was way smaller and didn?t result in such a horrible amount of Destruction) flood here in Germany last month and Soldiers from France and Belgium came to our aid and helped German Soldiers in the crisis center. Aid organisations like the Red Cross and others did their best in rescuing people and saving anything that can be saved...I see no shame in that but an opportunity for countries for a closer relationship as a positive side effect. What Politics can achieve speaking of tolerating and welcoming other nations in 10 years can be done from people who work together for 2 weeks in a crisis IMO. I just read that the European Union has offered help as well and it is known to the US government for Civil Security (don't know if this bureau is called like that, I translated it from the News) but so far they did not even bother to answer.
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Seeing a lot of, "I heard this" "I heard that"...
anyone care to quote actual sources from print or news media? or is all this information/misinformation coming via carrier pigeon?
What would you do with a link to a German newspaper?
[url]http://www.n-tv.de/574780.html[/url]
[url]http://www.tagesschau.de/aktuell/meldungen/0,1185,OID4692830,00.html[/url]
here you can read two articles if Google is any help in translating. These are from official and serious news sites and not from yellow press magazines...you should know me better, Bryan. :wink:
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[quote=Jenks]or is all this information/misinformation coming via carrier pigeon?[/quote] [img]http://www.imls.gov/images/closer/archive/hlt_m0902-3.jpg[/img]
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^^^
Actually TomTom, that reminds me...when I went home about two hours ago, they were talking on the news with a guy from a Portuguese organization who specializes in these situations (A.M.I.), and he was saying something along the lines of :
Then there was this UN guy being interviewed on CNN, the reporter kept dogging him "why aren?t you helping more? What are the other countries doing, what are they offering?", and all the guy kept saying was "well, we have everything ready, we just haven?t been asked for help yet, we can?t just force our way into a country like that".
As a side note, which is somewhat related, it was also in the news yesterday that there was a massive earthquake drill in Japan involving 1 million people. They say they?re preparing for the "Big One"
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[quote=pretence][quote=DreamGirlie]http://www.homesforkatrina.com/
[url]http://www.openyourhome.com/[/url][/quote]
Have you offered your home?[/quote]
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The Mayor is getting pissed...and rightfully so...
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html[/url]
About time someone started to speak up...
Now there's fires breaking out...boy if things can't get any worse...
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[quote=Jenks]Seeing a lot of, "I heard this" "I heard that"...
anyone care to quote actual sources from print or news media? or is all this information/misinformation coming via carrier pigeon?[/quote]
I'm my own news service. What do you want to know??? :D
[quote=FM]The Mayor is getting pissed...and rightfully so...
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html[/url]
About time someone started to speak up...
Now there's fires breaking out...boy if things can't get any worse...[/quote]
That's a spectacular rant. I don't know that I've ever heard a politician speak so bluntly.
[quote=FM]The Mayor is getting pissed...and rightfully so...
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html[/url]
About time someone started to speak up...
Now there's fires breaking out...boy if things can't get any worse...[/quote] [quote]And one of the things people -- nobody's talked about this. Drugs flowed in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me, and that's why we were having the escalation in murders. People don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it.
You have drug addicts that are now walking around this city looking for a fix, and that's the reason why they were breaking in hospitals and drugstores. They're looking for something to take the edge off of their jones, if you will.
And right now, they don't have anything to take the edge off. And they've probably found guns. So what you're seeing is drug-starving crazy addicts, drug addicts, that are wrecking havoc. And we don't have the manpower to adequately deal with it. We can only target certain sections of the city and form a perimeter around them and hope to God that we're not overrun.[/quote] :shock: I'm surprised he said that.
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^^^^ at this point, what does he have to lose? his city is in shambles to say the least. I have a lot of respect for this bloke, and hopefully he gets the praise he deserves. Instead of pussy footing around trying to be politcally correct, he is telling it like it is.
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there's a plane with soldiers trained for situations like this, and volunteers from 2 major hospitals waiting for the ok from your government so they can fly over there and help out. Belgium is trying to do it's part, local news gave us info on how to donate. I'll do my part after the weekend. my heart go's out to all the people there. i hope things get organized soon
the news reporters have lost it. they are all going nuts. i think i would too.
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Like someone said earlier, I'm getting the impression that resources are spread too thin to deal with a natural disaster this large. Many of the National Guard have been sent to Iraq because of lack of troops. If this is true, we certainly won't get this admission from the administration.
The good thing is that today the government finally converged on New Orleans with troops, food, water, etc. Bush himself called the relief efforts this morning unacceptable. I'm thinking that the newschannels and media put a lot of pressure on Bush to lead better in this crisis.
rev. jesse jackson makes me sick
i can't stand that fucker
did anyone here him on anderson cooper today
jesse jackson needs to be killed. dumb fucking ------ !!!!
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What did he say? Any transcripts on the net?
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basically he said that the response wasn't quick because most of the people affected were black.
he also questioned why bush sr & clinton were chosen to lead the fund raising and no black leader was included.
jesse jackson has done alot of good things but he tends to be a conspiracy theorist.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.world.aid.reut/index.html[/url]
:LoveYou:
[url]http://www.redcross.org/sponsors/helping.html[/url]
:shock: ~$97M USD pledged by various companies listed on that page. my company isn't listed, so it's definitely not a definitive list. I wonder how much money they have raised for this... GE has contributed $18M alone, so that list plus my company's contribution makes at least $115M that we know of raised by the Red Cross alone in the past few days :shock:
[url]http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pressReleases/2005_08/31_aadv_donations.jhtml[/url]
500 Free American Airlines AAdvantage Miles for donating $50 to the Red Cross
[quote=sakio pod]rev. jesse jackson makes me sick
i can't stand that fucker
did anyone here him on anderson cooper today[/quote]
Yeah, I saw it. But really...what is he doing that he doesn't always do?? The guy's only purpose in life is to be "outraged" at anything that [b]HE[/b] can construe as racial inequality. Like if there was a city full of white people that water would only be 5 feet deep, instead of 20. He has to keep his name in the public eye somehow right?? What better time than now??
[quote=skahound]Would someone please tell these people being interviewed to stop thanking God and Jesus Christ? I mean for shit's sake, what do you they think? Did God "choose" to spare them and let the other people die? Fuck that shit. Just be thankful that you're [u]lucky[/u] you're alive.[/quote]
EXACTLY! thanking god for sparing you is like saying the people that lost family members should cursing him for killing them. what the fuck, just forget about religion for a minute sort yourself and thank yourself for having the brains to evacuate your house.
as these busses sit submerged in flood waters, you have to wonder why the mayor of new orleans decided NOT to evacuate his citizens with these, Once, perfectly functioning busses. now there are nearly 300 completely useless busses. :roll: (keep in mind this is just one shot of the lot full of busses. there are a shit load more.
[img]http://static.flickr.com/26/40217127_c4499b3641_o.jpg[/img]
where's your finger pointing now nagen, you asshole? :roll:
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it's a shame that we have to learn from this experience.........
[quote=Jibgolly]as these busses sit submerged in flood waters, you have to wonder why the mayor of new orleans decided NOT to evacuate his citizens with these, Once, perfectly functioning busses. now there are nearly 300 completely useless busses. :roll: (keep in mind this is just one shot of the lot full of busses. there are a shit load more.
where's your finger pointing now nagen, you asshole? :roll:[/quote]
Ditto. And - to think! There WAS an evacuation plan:
[url]http://www.cityofno.com/SystemModules/PrintPage.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26[/url]
The mayor has to bear the brunt of responsibility for not executing it. After shit hit the fan, he knew his arse was in a hot seat and naturally felt it best to blame the feds (when it was up to the city govt to execute the plan, and feds, who could not interfere without a request from the state. Hopefully, his fingerpointing will only stave off the inevitable.
[img]http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7383/081ud.jpg[/img]
[quote=Jibgolly]as these busses sit submerged in flood waters, you have to wonder why the mayor of new orleans decided NOT to evacuate his citizens with these, Once, perfectly functioning busses. now there are nearly 300 completely useless busses. :roll: (keep in mind this is just one shot of the lot full of busses. there are a shit load more.
[img]http://static.flickr.com/26/40217127_c4499b3641_o.jpg[/img]
where's your finger pointing now nagen, you asshole? :roll:[/quote]
How many people could have been saved by those buses?? Makes me sick. :x
^ the site i got the picture on had some figures around 15,000. (depending on seats on the bus)
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Damn, what if :?