HorizonForumsone horizon
Log inSign up

[ms] · Est. May 2002

Music madethis place,we just kept itgoing...

One durable person. One social graph. Many communities—and every way people speak, share, listen, write, gather and remember.

01PulsePosts · shares · activity02PeopleIdentity · relationships · history03CommunitiesGroups · forums · events04Music + MediaListen · discover · discuss

Forums / General Yakkity Yak

NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

105 durable postsStarted 2005-05-25Latest 2005-05-29
#427048Post 81 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Encryption]http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/a_brains.html[/quote] Thanks. Just checked and the library at school has the McHenry study so I will be checking that out later.

#427049Post 82 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Encryption]Secondly, they had fairly small bodies and this could well be because of the Gravitational force of the planet they inherit. The larger a planet, the larger the gravitational force on it, hence if their planet was larger than earth, evolution would have shrunk their bodies to make it easier to move around...[/quote]

[quote=Encryption]has it occured to you that in the case of humanity....MAN became intelligent.... what if it were a smaller mammal ??[/quote] according to what you wrote earlier, a smaller mammal on the same-sized planet would have a smaller brain, thus wouldn't be as advanced as us... unless the smaller mammal had a head as large as ours, because you said only the size of their craniums affected their intelligence rather than the size of their bodies.

but we were talking about the current alien stereotype on your "planet larger than earth"," where they would probably need to have a brain and body larger than the size of a smaller mammal's to be as evolved as "aliens" are made out to be

am i wrong? :not me:

#427050Post 83 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Encryption]http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/a_brains.html[/quote] :lol: the first line of that article: [b]"Brain sizes vary..., but this variation is not usually related to intelligence"[/b]

#427051Post 84 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=picklemonkey][quote=Encryption]http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/a_brains.html[/quote] :lol: the first line of that article: [b]"Brain sizes vary..., but this variation is not usually related to intelligence"[/b][/quote]

read on.... dont selectively cut and paste

#427054Post 85 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Encryption]read on.... dont selectively cut and paste[/quote] I think pickles is interviewing for a new slot on FoxNews.

#427056Post 86 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

Now here's another idea as to why aliens are portrayed that certain way.

Anybody been to Roswell, New Mexico? Even if you haven't there's something you have to consider about the time it happened (1947):

For people who say that there were no aliens, I ask: Why did technology suddenly take off right after the time this happened?

I visited the museum in Roswell and it laid out a powerful case for the event actually happening and it just being a government cover-up for the sake of world/political stability.

So I'm saying that the reason that aliens are portrayed the way they are is because they actually ARE like that, because they've already been seen.

#427069Post 87 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=picklemonkey][quote=Encryption]Secondly, they had fairly small bodies and this could well be because of the Gravitational force of the planet they inherit. The larger a planet, the larger the gravitational force on it, hence if their planet was larger than earth, evolution would have shrunk their bodies to make it easier to move around...[/quote]

[quote=Encryption]has it occured to you that in the case of humanity....MAN became intelligent.... what if it were a smaller mammal ??[/quote] according to what you wrote earlier, a smaller mammal on the same-sized planet would have a smaller brain, thus wouldn't be as advanced as us... unless the smaller mammal had a head as large as ours, because you said only the size of their craniums affected their intelligence rather than the size of their bodies.

but we were talking about the current alien stereotype on your "planet larger than earth"," where they would probably need to have a brain and body larger than the size of a smaller mammal's to be as evolved as "aliens" are made out to be

am i wrong? :not me:[/quote]

also, since this is a debate on PLAUSIBLE explanations of what can and shouldn't be, make it a healthy convo as opposed to running the whole nine yards with the ball mate...... :P

#427079Post 88 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=skahound]^ I was wondering how long it would be before you entered the discussion Sunny. :) [/quote]

I get to work at 2pm PT, so I'm usually late to the party.

[quote=Encryption]DUDER.... that fucking link was :Rock On:[/quote]

Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did. A bit off topic but since you mentioned faith, you really ought to check out Wayne Dyer's Power of Intention which airs on PBS all the time. I was so moved by it I shelled out the 160 bucks for the DVD. It does a real good job of relating science to God. But it also fits into the context of every religion. Don't worry its not one of those convert to such and such religion.

[quote=unome] ok, so this super race of beings, can make weather changes, move mountains and such, but lacks originality in creating a different looking body type for aliens? surely you jest..[/quote]

I think E's explaination is probably more accurate, however a thought: What if having 2 arms and 2 legs and walking upright is the most superior design? ie. if these aliens had the ability to choose their forms, is their a design that would be more superior? Look at what humans can do in comparison the other species. Personally the only thing I'd add would be wings and the ability to breathe underwater. Even without the aforementioned look at what we have achieved (we can still fly and go underwater). Having more or less in the appendages department doesen't seem more helpful either.

#427122Post 89 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=unome]ok, so this super race of beings, can make weather changes, move mountains and such, but lacks originality in creating a different looking body type for aliens? surely you jest..[/quote]

They ran out of ideas. Hence, cookie cutter pop stars.

[quote=picklemonkey]...a smaller mammal on the same-sized planet would have a smaller brain, thus wouldn't be as advanced as us...[/quote]

My point is: why would there be a mammal on another planet? The conditions on this world i.e. distance from the Sun, air chemistry, water chemistry, weather patterns, are condusive to our kind of life...carbon based life. On another planet, or moon, or whatever, that has an atmosphere of pure ammonia, an ocean of liquid nitrogen and ground made up of calcium phosphate could not support carbon based life. I think that drives alot of people to assume it could not sustain life, in general. That's what I'm most amped on...not so much that there is life, because I'm fairly positive that there is, but [b]what the hell is it going to look like[/b]. :WTF:

#427127Post 90 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=evangelion]My point is: why would there be a mammal on another planet? The conditions on this world i.e. distance from the Sun, air chemistry, water chemistry, weather patterns, are condusive to our kind of life...carbon based life. On another planet, or moon, or whatever, that has an atmosphere of pure ammonia, an ocean of liquid nitrogen and ground made up of calcium phosphate could not support carbon based life. I think that drives alot of people to assume it could not sustain life, in general. That's what I'm most amped on...not so much that there is life, because I'm fairly positive that there is, but [b]what the hell is it going to look like[/b]. :WTF:[/quote] there's more than one galaxy out there

#427180Post 91 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Encryption]I WANNA SEE A FUCKING LITTLE GREEN MAN :abducted:[/quote]

So lets say we see one of those green dudes. Then it would be basically proven that theres is no god right ??? Cause god created humans ... Adam from mud or whatever it was and then the girl from one of his ribs. So on and so forth ... Right ? :roll:

#427186Post 92 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=Zerotonine][quote=Encryption]I WANNA SEE A FUCKING LITTLE GREEN MAN :abducted:[/quote]

So lets say we see one of those green dudes. Then it would be basically proven that theres is no god right ??? Cause god created humans ... Adam from mud or whatever it was and then the girl from one of his ribs. So on and so forth ... Right ? :roll:[/quote] huh? aliens = no God?

#427189Post 93 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=picklemonkey]huh? aliens = no God?[/quote]

Yeah, I don't really see how this would prove that there is no God either. "In the beginning" could just mean the formation of Earth and not other planets as well.

#427207Post 94 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=picklemonkey][quote=evangelion]My point is: why would there be a mammal on another planet? The conditions on this world i.e. distance from the Sun, air chemistry, water chemistry, weather patterns, are condusive to our kind of life...carbon based life. On another planet, or moon, or whatever, that has an atmosphere of pure ammonia, an ocean of liquid nitrogen and ground made up of calcium phosphate could not support carbon based life. I think that drives alot of people to assume it could not sustain life, in general. That's what I'm most amped on...not so much that there is life, because I'm fairly positive that there is, but [b]what the hell is it going to look like[/b]. :WTF:[/quote] there's more than one galaxy out there[/quote]

Right...my point exactly. :Bingo: There's [b]BILLIONS[/b] more. :HolyShit:

#427209Post 95 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=evangelion]There's [b]BILLIONS[/b] more. :HolyShit:[/quote] And that's just in this dimension. [img]http://www.headstrong-hq.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/beam.gif[/img]

#427210Post 96 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[b]Yes.....space rules!!!!!!!!!![/b]

#427279Post 97 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

it'd be fun to live forever and see what happens say... 300 years from now.

my bet is an asteroid is going to come and wipe us all out soon. :?

#427283Post 98 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=sheryar]it'd be fun to live forever and see what happens say... 300 years from now.

my bet is an asteroid is going to come and wipe us all out soon. :?[/quote] Ok, Captain Optimism.

#427294Post 99 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

if aliens ever visit this planet, chances are it wont be pretty.

the thought is that if theres a being with the technology to get to us and we cant get to them, theres a huge chance they will herd us like cattle or worse.

we would do that on anther planet..we do it on THIS planet.

i recently saw a movie trailer about aliens watchin us and then attacking or something. not sure what the movies about in the end but when i saw it it made me think about the teacher that impressed upon me that idea.

i always hoped id live to see the day we encounter extra-terrestrial beings.....not anymore. im fine without it.

#427297Post 100 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

I've always had this crazy notion that we are like Sim-Planet to them - we are their experiment. Everything we do is a result of their control. :shock:

#427311Post 101 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=skahound]I've always had this crazy notion that [b]we are like Sim-Planet to them[/b] - we are their experiment. Everything we do is a result of their control. :shock:[/quote]

could well be true, if they are advanced enough to wipe out disease and aging...... what would they do if they wanted to live forever..... this "life" is a nice way to live 70 odd years only to wake up again when "GAME OVER" plays and dive into the next one

-e-

#427322Post 102 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=evangelion][b]Yes.....space rules!!!!!!!!!![/b][/quote] nerd :lol:

[quote=skahound]I've always had this crazy notion that we are like Sim-Planet to them - we are their experiment. Everything we do is a result of their control. :shock:[/quote] [img]http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/704/704_img_05.jpg[/img]

#427324Post 103 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

^ WTF is that a picture of? It's hurting my eyes.

#427331Post 104 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=skahound]I've always had this crazy notion that we are like Sim-Planet to them - we are their experiment. Everything we do is a result of their control. :shock:[/quote]

Ever seen "Mission to Mars?" That's my idea of what happened. Far fetched? Yes. But hey, we're dealing with time and space here...nothing that belongs on this world applies out there.

[quote=picklemonkey][quote=evangelion][b]Yes.....space rules!!!!!!!!!![/b][/quote] nerd :lol:[/quote]

Why thank you...I wear that badge with pride. :D

#427399Post 105 of 105

Re: NASA: Voyager I enters solar system's final frontier

[quote=skahound]Voyager I and its sister ship, Voyager II, were launched in 1977 on a mission to explore the solar system. Voyager I passed Jupiter in March 1979 and Saturn in November 1980. In 1998, it became the most distant man-made object from Earth. Voyager II, which observed Uranus and Neptune, is 6.5 billion miles from the sun, heading in the opposite direction of Voyager I and at a slightly slower speed. [/quote]

that just blows my mind. the thing passed a distant planet the same year i was born & is still becoming ever more distant 25 years later.

Log in to reply