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How was WMC??

214 durable postsStarted 2005-03-28Latest 2005-04-07
#395780Post 161 of 214

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That afterhours friday morning was the best time i had at conference. 112 on the terrace and mr c, little mike, francis harris, and damian lazurus just slayed it inside. Girlfriend and i and our group were mangled by noon. It was a mess. Best music of the conference. We came straight from Mills @ Jade, tried to get Ruby to make it, but he dissappeared.

#395784Post 162 of 214

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for the sad folk who didn't go to Robots @ Bed w. Sven Vath...

a lil distorted video i took with the digital camera...

[url]http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1V7YX6AEF68HD10UV7DTSUUMYI[/url]

#395788Post 163 of 214

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[quote=rewing3]Headrush, Your the first to say you did not have fun at the conference. Which is surpring. Also did you record any of the set at your party. [/quote]

It's not that I didn't have fun. I did. I especially enjoyed the carefree vibe of the Space terrace during Sander's set, and even managed to get in a good 30 minutes of hard dancing in the main room also. I enjoyed socializing at most of the parties, and met some great people. The Conference definitely wasn't a total loss, it just wasn't "next level."

I did miss many good parties. A couple of the days were consumed either doing events or recovering. So, I'm sure had I been able to attend those, my perspective might be different.

We did record what we could until rain wiped out the recording setup we had going in ProTools. We're still waiting on files from our sound engineer down there. Once we have a handle on them, they'll be distributed via internet radio broadcasts.

I am one of the most critical people I know, so I don't mean to be overly harsh. I know we've all taken a fair amount of criticism that the music and the vibe has taken itself all too seriously in the past, and maybe this year was the bitchslap it needed to lighten up. I guess my larger question is: "Did things lighten up too far at the expense of quality?"

What you get out of the Conference is something deeply personal. I think it largely depends on where you are in the journey. It's entirely possible that someone who went to different parties got their minds blown while other people may be saying, "Been there, done that."

Here's an article that ran in the Miami [i]New Times[/i] for a different perspective:

[b]What Does It Mean?
BY MOSI REEVES [email]mosi.reeves@miaminewtimes.com[/email]

This past Saturday on a breezy yet warm night, the Nocturnal warehouse at 50 NE 11th Street in downtown Miami bubbled with flashing lights and pounding house music. On its rooftop lounge, club director Dade Sokoloff shuffled CDs into the mixer. He played Louie Vega's achingly beautiful Elements of Life and then inserted a rare collaboration CD between Paul Oakenfold and Fatboy Slim, all for the enjoyment of a handful of friends enraptured by a digital video display projected onto a canopy tent covering much of the lounge. But Sokoloff, his wife, and associates weren't there to celebrate Nocturnal's launch after nearly three years of work. Instead, they drank beer and champagne, played with the club's "toys," and wondered about the week that wasn't.

"I spent the week trying to get the club open," said Sokoloff. He called the music festival popularly known as WMC "the worst week of my professional life."

Of the more than 300 bacchanals taking place during March 22-26, when this year's official Winter Music Conference was held at the Wyndham Resort, as well as for several days before and after those dates, Nocturnal's debut was the most eagerly anticipated affair of them all. Built over three years at a cost of an estimated twelve million dollars, the club had not only drawn many of the week's hottest parties but had also gathered a cacophonous buzz from a club crowd whose never-ending quest is to find new spaces to conquer and pillage.

The first sign of trouble was when Nocturnal's managers hastily canceled a "sneak preview" scheduled for Friday, March 18. The following Monday they moved the club's first official event, a Phuture party featuring cutting-edge techno and trance producers such as Tiefschwarz and the MFA, to Space.

Throughout the week, they continued to move some of the acts they had booked to other locations: Fatboy Slim, for example, was moved to crobar, while the Aquabooty party was taken to Opium Garden and turned into a free afternoon jam. Other parties, including Saturday's Contagious Musiq showcase with Rabbit in the Moon and many others, were canceled altogether. Sokoloff claims that all the artists and promoters were paid and that club owner Glenn Kofman lost "hundreds of thousands" as a result.

Oddly enough, the Nocturnal people never made an official announcement concerning its progress. So as it became clear to all that Nocturnal was having serious problems opening its doors, several conspiracy theories emerged. Some whispered notorious Space owner Louis Puig influenced the City of Miami to deny the club its permits, while others opined the police "busted" Nocturnal on some sort of offense. (What kind of "bust," you ask? Don't ask me; I'm only repeating the rumor.)

Sokoloff strongly dismissed both fantasies and explained that when Nocturnal didn't pass its roof inspection, inspectors required that he apply roof sealant and other finishing materials in order to ensure that it could withstand the weight of hundreds of people. However, he says that the club passed a number of other inspections, including ones for health and electrical permits. "You name it, we passed it," he says.

"Look, we didn't get it fucking finished. That's the bottom line," he continued, noticeably fried from a lack of sleep. So when will the damn club open? "Oh no, not that again," he laughs. "I'm not saying until it's finished."

In years past, there was one story that dominated the conference. In 2003 it was America's invasion of Iraq and its calamitous effect on a tourist industry still recovering from 9/11. Last year it was the arrival of the M3 Summit, a new conference that sought to woo back all the hipsters and record-industry folk who had stopped going to Winter Music Conference.

But this year's edition seemed diffuse and scattershot. While it's difficult to imagine a single nightclub becoming the talk of a weeklong event spread across two cities and involving tens of thousands of people, the Nocturnal fiasco was on the shortlist of conversation starters. Then there was the three-year-old Remix Hotel, a free confab for technology junkies. It seemed to yield a surprising amount of positive feedback among its 4856 registrants. Though that was only a slight increase over last year's 4800 attendees, more people than before seemed to be talking about the three-day event than before.

As usual, so many parties took place throughout the week that I can't make much more than general observations about them all. It seemed there were more VIP events than in years past. On Friday there was BBE Records' Real Music for Real People at the totally unreal Skybar at the Shore Club, where Questlove threw down Leaders of the New School's "Case of the PTA" and other old-school hip-hop classics. On that same night, a nondescript mansion on Pine Tree Drive was host to Sasha, who spun a furious tag-team set with James Zabiela and shocked many with his newly bald pate. As for those parties open to the public, Bugz in the Attic's showcase at Amika Monday, the Club Shelter event at Nikki Beach Thursday, Danny Howells's party at B.E.D. Wednesday, and the cool-as-fuck Revolver event at Pawn Shop Lounge Friday all received high marks.

As usual, the prospect of too many parties, alcohol, drugs, and fake tits (one friend complained that he felt as if his eyeballs were about to explode) drove many men and women to feel burned-out, overwhelmed, and dehydrated. Compounding matters were several complaints about the cavalier treatment some doormen, particularly the fine fellows at Opium Garden and Rokbar, were inclined to dish out to their would-be patrons. Such a combination of 24-hour partying and rude behavior from South Beach natives led many to wonder: What does it all mean?

Not much, at least to an industry that calculates winners and losers according to their Soundscan sales totals. Of the thousands of DJs, musicians, and vocalists who performed here last week, only John Legend, who headlined an M3 Sunset Session Wednesday, saw his last album go platinum -- unless one counts P. Diddy's surprise appearance with Felix da Housecat at the Revolver party, where he reportedly "jacked his body" like a metronome.

For now there isn't an American festival that has supplanted WMC as the premier showcase for electronic music. Most critically acclaimed artists flirting with mainstream success, however, are making South by Southwest (SXSW), the Austin, Texas industry conference that took place a week before WMC from March 11 to 20 (and turned journalists who had to attend both into burned-out zombies); or Coachella Valley Music Festival, which takes place from April 30 to May 1 in Indio, California, their major priorities. Unfortunately WMC is losing its reputation for featuring breakthrough performances by new and interesting acts, though M3's Sunset Sessions can count Brazilian Girls last year and Mylo this year as part of its growing list.

One prime example is Astralwerks Records, which decided not to host a WMC showcase this year. Astralwerks general manager Errol Kolosine notes that four of its artists -- newcomer Juliet, dance-rock hybrid Radio 4, Ben Watt, and the aforementioned Fatboy Slim -- made appearances in Miami last week. But he admits that others on its roster were more interested in playing at SXSW, where Astralwerks mounted two popular showcases, than WMC. "In all honesty, this year we didn't have the availability of enough of our artists to build a big event," he says.

Winter Music Conference is usually blamed for this lack of enthusiasm and disinterest. Over the past two years, however, co-founders Bill Kelly and Louis Possenti have tentatively begun to work with local nightclubs and add value to the badges -- that is, cut deals so badgeholders can get into parties for free or at a discounted rate. Though the laminate badges still wouldn't get you into most nightclubs, I saw several people wearing badges at exclusive, difficult-to-access VIP events such as the BBE joint at Skybar and the Defected Records pool party at the National Hotel. Perhaps Winter Music Conference is drawing more industry hustlers than people think.

If the good folks behind WMC, M3, and now Remix Hotel want to return WMC to its onetime role as one of the country's premier showcases for new music, they will have to continue to tame South Beach. They will need to do a better job of attracting young and hot musicians who want to actually sell records, not just mature into thirtysomething "superstar DJs." They will have to make financial deals with the city's premium nightclubs, from the towering Mansion to the opulent Mynt, and even downtown Miami's Pawn Shop Lounge and I/O. Then they will have to ensure that record-industry people who fly into Miami from around the world won't have to deal with overzealous bouncers, drunk meatheads looking to kick some hapless guy's ass or molest various women, and velvet-rope bullshit. It's a tall task that will keep WMC from drifting into irrelevance, if not necessarily obsolescence.

After twenty years of surprising growth and disturbing complacency, Miami's much-beloved music festival still has the ears -- and hearts -- of thousands. But, like the hundreds of industry folk who have already turned their attention toward SXSW and Coachella, many of us are wondering if WMC is merely full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. [/b]

[url]http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/2005-03-31/basshead.html[/url]

#395791Post 164 of 214

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and the [i]New Times[/i] review of Ultra:

[i]Winter Music Conference closed out with Ultra 7, what should have been the most wonderful night of the year for electronic music lovers, especially the ground-level fan base who couldn't afford or simply couldn't get into the more exclusive fetes and concerts attendant to WMC's music-industry dweeb/professional partier cavalcade. At its best -- and there have been some awesome Ultras -- the festival can be a nearly Wagnerian Gesamtkunstwerk, a synthesis of the arts using visual spectacle, surround-sound amplification, and a gorgeous ampitheatrical setting to focus equal attention on the audience and the stage to create a dizzying, unifying mass experience.

No such luck this time. Ultra Music Festival, which is supposed to feature top electronic acts, has devolved into an ugly rave sideshow replete with washed-up B-talents such as Paul Oakenfold, Perry "Peretz" Ferrell, and Kelly Osbourne; throngs of marauding hicks; and stall after stall of vendors hawking tacky trinkets and more varieties of fried meat than the World Hamburger Expo. To add to the suckage, the so-called post-party called Ultra Carry On at American Airlines Arena was a poorly organized fiasco. Hardly anything went right this past Saturday night, and nothing went well. So what happened?

For one thing, nearly every DJ on every stage and in every tent had a train-wrecked set. A different sound crew than in years past was handling much of the audio technology, and the unfamiliarity with Bayfront Park's acoustics was fatal. Sound bled corrosively from place to place (as did the greasy haze from a zillion deep fryers and griddles). Of course there were exceptions -- Josh Wink, PVD, and Donald Glaude overcame heat, reverb, and an unusually low-energy audience to crank out great sessions. But stalwarts Oakenfold, Lil' Louie Vega, and even Ti?sto brought the same tired tracks everyone's heard endlessly. And maybe Eminem is right with his constant jabs at nemesis Moby -- nobody listens to techno, and certainly not to a truckload of acoustic instruments, not at Ultra anyway.

Over the years Ultra's reputation has spread. It's a place to take Ecstasy and mushrooms, dance, and basically go nuts for a few hours in a relatively safe environment. The new breed of Ultra attendee includes the original Europe-y ravers but also a lower common denominator, the kind of people who probably chained their dogs to the tree before packing the family -- including the eight-months-pregnant baby mama and gramma in her wheelchair -- into the Kia and heading downtown, only to take up a huge amount of dance-area space drunkenly doing lasso tricks with glowsticks-on-a-rope. The spring break-enhanced presence of squads of inebriated fraternity boys didn't help the thug quotient either. The most widely sported T-shirt was a white-on-black model declaring: "Fuck You You Fuckin' Fuck." Not your traditional smiley-face rave sentiment. So the vibe, once so infectiously happy, was infected instead with an undertone of predation and violence.

Drug use was as prevalent as ever, but in contrast to Ultra 6, during which more than 100 people were busted for possession, the cops didn't seem to give a ... darn this time around. Miami Police Department spokesman Lt. Bill Schwartz said there were only sixteen arrests during the entire noon-to-midnight festival, fifteen of them narcotics-related and one for disorderly conduct. That's as many people who get arrested in downtown Miami on any regular day. Some partiers would probably have been better off with an intervention, Man-generated or otherwise. At 4:30 a.m. Sunday, more than four hours after Ultra ended, there were still nearly 50 people in the park in various states of OD, some completely unconscious. One man, a 26-year-old electrical engineer from Davie, said he'd taken more than a dozen hits of LSD and lost his cell phone, his glasses, and the rest of his stash.

He wasn't alone in leaving stuff behind. The park, one of Miami's loveliest public assets, was trashed beyond recognition, a foot deep in discarded electronics, vomit, hats, food, bottles, flyers (and let's not forget fried meat) -- much worse than last year, when the presence of booths staffed by social watchdogs such as PETA, NORML, and Greenpeace reminded at least some to put refuse in the trash receptacles. Speaking of all that biohazardous waste, come on now, people, how could you possibly go barefoot at Ultra?!?! Puh-leez.

Those hoping to escape the clinging grease at Ultra for the air-conditioned after-party at American Airlines Arena met with disappointment. Mike Walker, executive vice president of AAA's Heat Group Enterprises, explains the situation like this: "The promoters [Ultra's Alex Omes and Russell Faibisch] did not plan for the resulting amount of will-call and guest-list numbers for the event, hence the AAA was not made aware of the situation resulting in the initial backup of guests attempting to secure tickets from either their Internet order or name on a guest list.... AAA did not manage or handle the overall ticket ordering and sales process for this event nor were we notified of any guest-list will-calls until shortly before the event was to begin. Had we been better informed by the promoter as to the ticketing procedures setup, the initial delays at the box office could have been more efficiently managed. As it was, all the people attempting to pick up or buy a ticket were handled within the first two hours of the event start time."

Two hours! Good thing it wasn't a Heat game people were trying to get in to see. AAA employees and contractors working the party were spectacularly unhelpful. Journalists, roadies, and pass holders of all ilk were shuttled from gate to gate to gate by uncooperative AAAgents, with one imaginative crew chief claiming the press was not allowed to enter the arena at all.

For those who did get inside, the absolutely unadorned arena was set up like a high school gym dance. Predictably, annoying adults stepped on the fun, making the kids turn the volume down on that crazy music and absurdly turning the house lights on every few minutes. (Smoking, on the other hand -- cigarettes, cigars, and nontobacco -- was encouraged by lack of enforcement of the Florida Clean Indoor Air Act.) Hernan Catteneo almost single-handedly rescued the event with an energetic jam, but DJ James Lavelle of the group UNKLE played one of the worst sets of the entire conference, an inexplicable clunker that sounded like Kansas mashed up with REM.

The Miami Herald reported Monday that 60,000 people attended Ultra; Andrew Fox, CEO of Track Entertainment and one of Ultra's major underwriters, said it was more like 45,000. Tim Schmand, executive director of the Bayfront Park Trust, said the number actually was "31,000 and change through the gate." Why did nearly 7000 people bother with the hassle of trying to get into the after-party at all?

Well, after a two-decade run of high-energy but socially fluid WMC parties and concerts and six bouts of Ultra, the creep of Miami social stratification finally caught up with conference. The Calle Ocho festival is welcomed year after year by a public willing to endure a bit of jostling and sloshed beer in order to see a bunch of great Latin music artists together in the same place. Ultra isn't free as CO is, but it operates on a similar principle. Now that WMC has been clubitized, schmoes from Kendall can wave around all the twenties they want, but if they're not on the list, they're not walking into State to see Miguel Migs, into Pawn Shop for a rare and exclusive Kool Keith appearance, and definitely not into the even more private parties at hotels and private mansions.

When events organized around a fringe interest become mainstream popular, they inevitably lose cachet. This happened with Burning Man in Nevada and is likely the fate of Indio, California's Coachella Music Festival. Should Ultra continue, its organizers need to take drastic steps to give the festival back to the people it was intended for in the first place. After all, as someone pointed out, electronic-music people don't rock, they pulsate. [/i]

#395793Post 165 of 214

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[quote=headrushmusic][quote]Then they will have to ensure that record-industry people who fly into Miami from around the world won't have to deal with overzealous bouncers, drunk meatheads looking to kick some hapless guy's ass or molest various women, and velvet-rope bullshit.[/quote][/quote] Very well put.

#395826Post 166 of 214

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[quote=Jenks]for the sad folk who didn't go to Robots @ Bed w. Sven Vath...

a lil distorted video i took with the digital camera...

[url]http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1V7YX6AEF68HD10UV7DTSUUMYI[/url][/quote]

thanks for the vid jenks, altho it just makes me more upset that i couldn't go this year. from that 1 minute vid the show looks sick

#395831Post 167 of 214

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[quote=headrushmusic]and the [i]New Times[/i] review of Ultra:

[/quote] Aside from having to tilt my head at a 30? angle it was a very, very good read and accurate on all accounts. I'm glad to see a more mainstream review of Lavelle's set that coincides with what [b]everyone[/b] else has said. Thank god that life is about learning lessons because I will never again attend anything with the Ultra moniker attached to it. Hell, I won't even use Tide Ultra anymore.

#395837Post 168 of 214

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didn't know about YouSendIt. Here's Sander about halfway through his set @ the LMR party

Sander K @ Spin - [b][[u][url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IH7R6BJPM8TO2NSCRA25JKPBA[/url][/u]][/b]

#395846Post 169 of 214

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[quote=picklemonkey]didn't know about YouSendIt. Here's Sander about halfway through his set @ the LMR party

Sander K @ Spin - [b][[u][url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IH7R6BJPM8TO2NSCRA25JKPBA[/url][/u]][/b][/quote]

you send it = :RightOn:

#395847Post 170 of 214

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Here is a link to Damian Lazarus at the afterparty at the Marlin on Thursday morning about 9am. Is that the 'Strange' track playing during the clip?

[b][[url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08PB4KHXK71VP19A5WMJPGATPF[/url]][/b]

#395848Post 171 of 214

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thanks lads. keep em coming. im sure i missed it, and cant be arsed to search, so how was sander? i may catch him at avalon next month after all, so i'd like to know... i vaguely remember a complaint that he played too many 80's remixes, but was otherwise decent?

#395851Post 172 of 214

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[quote=peloquin]thanks lads. keep em coming. im sure i missed it, and cant be arsed to search, so how was sander? i may catch him at avalon next month after all, so i'd like to know... i vaguely remember a complaint that he played too many 80's remixes, but was otherwise decent?[/quote] I've heard nothing but great reviews about his set on the terrace, but pickle is the one that mentioned that the 2nd half of his set sucked at the LMR party. Some other friends that stayed around didn't enjoy a single second of his set that night.

#395852Post 173 of 214

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hit or miss then. sounds like sander to me. :lol:

#395853Post 174 of 214

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Here is Nic Fanciulli dropping 'Chancer' at the LMR Party. Sorry for the lack of lighting but it's a club for Christ's sake! :D

[b][[url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NZ0C5Q4Q3RWF0T2F0N55NFYZC[/url]][/b]

#395857Post 175 of 214

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[quote=skahound]Here is a link to Damian Lazarus at the afterparty at the Marlin on Thursday morning about 9am. Is that the 'Strange' track playing during the clip?

[b][[url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08PB4KHXK71VP19A5WMJPGATPF[/url]][/b][/quote]

No.

It's been remixed by strange himself and put out on Damian's album sampler. Quite like the original myself.

#395862Post 176 of 214

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[quote=Jenks][quote=skahound]Here is a link to Damian Lazarus at the afterparty at the Marlin on Thursday morning about 9am. Is that the 'Strange' track playing during the clip?

[b][[url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08PB4KHXK71VP19A5WMJPGATPF[/url]][/b][/quote]

No.

It's been remixed by strange himself and put out on Damian's album sampler. Quite like the original myself.[/quote] Do you have any idea what track Damian is dropping during the clip? I know I've heard it before but can't put my finger on it.

#395865Post 177 of 214

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i hear wmc was not as good this year.... :?

#395867Post 178 of 214

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[quote=hulkhuss]i hear wmc was not as good this year.... :?[/quote]

clean your ears.

#395870Post 179 of 214

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in the mirror reflection in that video you can see me bouncing around in the background with my hat on. what a party !!! :RockOn:

#395872Post 180 of 214

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Well, I'll be! That is Jibby bouncing around back there. I'd gladly give my ability to spawn children in order to relive Wednesday night and Thursday morning.

<to Jib>A damn shame that I actually remember what I wrote :D </to Jib>

#395876Post 181 of 214

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[quote=skahound]I've heard nothing but great reviews about his set on the terrace, but pickle is the one that mentioned that the 2nd half of his set sucked at the LMR party. Some other friends that stayed around didn't enjoy a single second of his set that night.[/quote] 2nd half = lavelle quality + mixing

#395891Post 182 of 214

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[quote=skahound][quote=headrushmusic][quote]Then they will have to ensure that record-industry people who fly into Miami from around the world won't have to deal with overzealous bouncers, drunk meatheads looking to kick some hapless guy's ass or molest various women, and velvet-rope bullshit.[/quote][/quote] Very well put.[/quote]

I couldn't walk alone even one fucking block without being accosted by spring break meathead types. Had to call my friend who was with me and insisted to him to walk me back to my hotel which was less than 2 blocks away. During the day it was okay probably cause there was a lot more people out but at night, the creepers were out.

#395900Post 183 of 214

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both articles were on point. they both echo my feelings about the conference this year.....

#395918Post 184 of 214

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[quote=Ariel Cybana]

I couldn't walk alone even one fucking block without being accosted by spring break meathead types. Had to call my friend who was with me and insisted to him to walk me back to my hotel which was less than 2 blocks away. During the day it was okay probably cause there was a lot more people out but at night, the creepers were out.[/quote] You want me to kick all of their asses? They don't wanna mess with these pythons!

#395920Post 185 of 214

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you can be my bodyguard for next year if you like :)

yeah those guys need to get their ass kicked and they're the same guys you know no woman in her right mind would hook up with.

#395928Post 186 of 214

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[quote=Ariel Cybana]and they're the same guys you know no woman in her right mind would hook up with.[/quote] The sad thing is that women do hook up with them. Fortunately for me it weeds out those 'i wanna date a bad boy who treats me like shit because i never knew my dad' girls. Bring on the intelligent, conversationalist, good sense of humour, goal-oriented, non-co-dependent, music loving females.

#395938Post 187 of 214

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[quote=skahound]Bring on the intelligent, conversationalist, good sense of humour, goal-oriented, non-co-dependent, music loving females.[/quote] Like her: [img]http://www.mtcoffinz.com/Hair_Falls/Rainbow_Dolly_Falls3.jpg[/img]

mmmmmmmmmm... feeeeemaaale

#395946Post 188 of 214

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[quote=picklemonkey] Like her:

mmmmmmmmmm... feeeeemaaale[/quote] It's like I took a geltab and am staring at my Cyndi Lauper poster.

#395952Post 189 of 214

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[quote=skahound][quote=picklemonkey] Like her:

mmmmmmmmmm... feeeeemaaale[/quote] It's like I took a geltab and am staring at my Cyndi Lauper poster.[/quote]

i thought it was boy George, lol

#395957Post 190 of 214

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Here's what Steve Lawler thought of his party...:lol:

[quote]Well I'm sorry you are SO disappointed! I guess we can?t make it PERFECT all the time.

I won?t be doing a party at State again, so don't worry about that.

I'm sorry for the visuals they let me down MASSIVELY I'm sorry for the heat, YES the club did turn the aircon off, they also never let us use the nitrogen cannons that were there (which also cool everyone down) on the night they told me 'oh sorry we cant find the key!' I?m NOT sorry for my music! I played all the records that I'm loving right now, and I know I didn?t do any BAD mixes as you said? I had no booth problems.

All in all I thought the party was a good party BUT yes we had many problems on the night.. i.e. there being to many people let into the club, no air con, no nitrogen cannons, no visuals.

Let me explain, out of all the DJ's that play at conference I and DT are the ONLY dj's that do our own party's everyone else plays for promoters. This night has been worked on for 3 months and a lot of hard work goes into that. I felt let down from my team and I felt let down from the club.. The club fucked us big time! And as I said I wont be working with them again. I was finding out about all these problems whilst I was playing.. Finding out about people who had brought there tickets were having to wait because the club was full, found out about the WC's, found out about the air con, about the cannons.. And it was all really pissing me off. But my job was to play the music. And maybe I just couldn?t deliver like I usually do with all this shit in my head, and for that I apologise.. All in all.. I still didn?t think that this party was a big disappointment? You forgot to mention. How good the club looked! How great the crowd was! How amazing the sound was! How great the dancers looked! And how the crowd reacted at the end of the night.. ????

I'm sorry you were so disappointed.

and thankyou to everyone that attended YOU were AMAZING as ever.

Steve[/quote]

from his board... :!:

#396029Post 191 of 214

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^^ wow strong words from the man himself!... hopefully it will be at space next year and he'll be over the acid shite

#396043Post 192 of 214

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lawler :lol:

and bascially what i'm hearing from the people who say wmc wasn't up to par, are all complaining about the big prog/tribal/etc jocks shows, lawler, lavelle, ultra, and the like.

it's not wmc, your expectations are just built up too high for those kind of shows and their music is a let down, the party is a let down, the whole experience is a let down. :lol:

sort yourselves out with some banging german and detroit techno next time, and you're golden. :twisted:

:wink:

#396072Post 193 of 214

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^^^^^^^^ or stick with Hernan and you wont be disappointed :RightOn:

#396144Post 194 of 214

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yeah im kinda pissed i didn't get to see any techno acts... oh well :|

#396259Post 195 of 214

Re: How was WMC??

[quote=Jenks]

sort yourselves out with some banging german and detroit techno next time, and you're golden. :twisted:

:wink:[/quote]

:Boom: Do I sense a genre war impending? :WinkNSmi:

haha, I love techno; I really do. But seriously: Did everyone quit using the Virus? Is a 303 the only synth left on earth?

(DEMF - or whatever it's called now - does techno right. It doesn't feel the same under palm trees.) It just seemed like this year was mostly the two extremes: robots and disco queens, with little in between. A few breaks parties, a few dnb parties, a few of the usual trance suspects, and a few "prog" parties, but not as deep as they used to be.

Ok, I'll quit whining. I'm obviously one of the only people who feels this way. :P It's my own fault for having to leave a day early, and actually sleeping a few times and missing parties I should not have missed. Next time, NO SLEEP 'TIL SATISFACTION!! (Or, maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.) :sleep:

peace Amy

#396266Post 196 of 214

Re: How was WMC??

BTW, I really really really really really wanted to go to the Pig & Dan event on Tues at Bed, and missed it. (Missed Hernan too) If anyone knows if these sets have already been posted, please advise. Cheers

#396298Post 197 of 214

Re: How was WMC??

Well I was going to post a review but it got a bit long winded and a bit too negative. It was nice to meet the MS folks that I did, hopefully I'll meet the ones that I didn't next year. Lots of bad planning on my part caused us to miss out on a lot of good events. I'll put together a noob guide for next year so others don't make the same mistakes I did being a first timer. Mainly book early.

In regards to the Lawler party- it was probably my favorite party of the conference. My only complaint was the lack of almost any seating and the ricockulous drink prices (16 bucks for a shot or Yeager, 8 bucks for a water ?!?!?). Great sound, a bit hot but still a great party.

I'm somewhat glad to hear that I wasn't the only one who was disappointed and that this is not the norm for the conference. There was just too many meatheads present, clubs lacking the service they should be delivering (50 bucks to get in and NO RE-ENTRY???), some resturants with shit service, rude angry people everywhere!

Maybe I'm just used to better. The manager from one of the clubs I get to play at on occasion happened to go. He commented that he'd have an empty club if they treated people that way.

I know my post probably makes it sound like I had a horrible time, but I did have a great time and will be there again next year.

#396309Post 198 of 214

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^^ i cant believe you were at the lawler party and we didn't meet :shock: ..we'll maybe next year

#396318Post 199 of 214

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Sunny is definitely a cool dude. Really nice to hang with you for part of the night man, hope you enjoyed LMR.

#396319Post 200 of 214

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Lawler party at State was hot as hell. I didn't last too long, but like the vibe and sound in the club.

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