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Felix the Housekat supporting the [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=447"]Swedish House Mafia[/URL] because they're the only douche-troupe that will [I]maybe[/I] play his records.

reading the comments below the article. spot on.

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Both sides think they are right, both sides are making money. Swedish H M seems to be happy and making money doing what they do so whatever you know?

Here's SHM's response:

[quote]People like different things and that's positive. Imagine if we would all be in ibiza listening to mozart .. Its way of life , things change for the good and for the worse. Instead of bitching about it do something about it , if you think the music sucks make better music and build a fan base and do your thing with the strength of your brand .. Too many stand on the sideline commenting on the game. Join it , own it and go all in .. Its easy to throw up on others and and easy to tell people their music suck , and easy to say it was better back then ... I use to play vinyl from the day I got my decks in 1994 I'm happy I did that. Most of the guys out there has never seen decks and has never made music or run a label for 10 years. I've done it all and still do it. The game won't change cause people complain the game changes when people join it. So stop bitching on my conversation with [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=17"]Dj Sneak[/url] and start where we started. We're artists and have things to tell eachother.he might hate me and what I do but in the end of the game not everyone can like everything. I just think its immature to do it on twitter when we can do it in person.in the end of the day its all about music and no beef. That's what dance music is about and that's why its the biggest music genre out there. We built this together and we'll sink it together if we continue to handle success as kids. I die for this and dedicated my whole life to it. Doesn't matter if you like me or not I'll continue this jurney with the love we have from our fans and we'll never stop ! That's it .. Just dropped this convrsation and already wasted way to much time on it .. Much Love -S A[/quote]

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has it not dawned on anyone that lots of DJs are actors? at this point, who cares? either love em or hate em for their music or love em or hate em for their show.

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[QUOTE=Garrick;1032378]has it not dawned on anyone that lots of DJs are actors? at this point[/QUOTE]

No most are Carpet Fitters, Tobacco Salesmen, Plumbers or sell Office Space.

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i just think [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=17"]dj sneak[/url] makes himself look stupid by doing that publically.

i also noticed once a genre of music becomes succesful commercially, you have this underground v mainstream thing that happens. this is no different. it just goes to show you how popular edm has become.

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^ how is this any different than pissing on guetta? anyone who has ever followed the EDM scene with more than a passing interest probably saw the DJ Mag poll and thought, "oh lawdy, this shit is out of control.' [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=17"]DJ Sneak[/URL] is merely the first one to say what everyone is thinking.

is anyone actually doubting the truth to Sneak's claim? does anyone here actually think SHM is anything but a three-man stage show, who, but-for the fireworks, would sound dull and, dare I say, bog-standard pop fodder? (lulz)

ffs, they make oakenfold look like a proper dj again because they (SHM) have moved the goal posts so far low as to what a quality dj should be.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ERuPq.jpg[/IMG]

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Maybe people should waste less time pissing and moaning about music they don't like and more time enjoying the music they do.

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^ amen

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[QUOTE=chunky;1032577]Maybe people should waste less time pissing and moaning about music they don't like and more time enjoying the music they do.[/QUOTE]

Maybe people should waste less time pissing and moaning about other people pissing and moaning about music they don't like and more time enjoying the people they do.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ewBea.gif[/IMG]

:)

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Fucking hell you're not going to start crying are you Mariner?

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[URL]http://www.magneticmag.com/2011/08/charts-have-been-topped-awards-won-stadiums-filled—digweed-does-stonehenge/[/URL]

"I don’t do Jesus poses or showboating as I prefer to let the music do the talking, but today I think you need to put a lot more of a show on to impress the crowds for some reason, if you are not jumping around like a lunatic they think you are not into it. So maybe I would get some dance lessons—then learn how to DJ"

JD says lol

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[QUOTE=chunky;1032620]Fucking hell you're not going to start crying are you Mariner?[/QUOTE]

oh don't get all butthurt you chav. its only the [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=447"]swedish house mafia[/url]. if they mean that much to you, then I apologize for not having realized this sooner.

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What kinda music do these guys play? Apparently it's crap, I've just never heard them before.

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(88Mariner) [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=17"]DJ Sneak[/URL] is merely the first one to say what everyone is thinking. Is anyone actually doubting the truth to Sneak's claim? ] SPOT ON!!!!

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Everyone inside EDM knows they are actors, videos of them playing pre-recorded sets, etc, .. i had several conversations with a few unnamed respected DJ's about what happened to guys like SHM, Sander K. and so on, how come they completely lost it music-wise. Their usual answer was that they fell into deception of thinking they do it good because everyone around them says so. So they don't actually go and seek for the music which is good but music and effects which most of the crowd according to their surrounding can digest. That's the difference to true underground edm stars: they don't give a phuck about what other people say. Just as JD won't ever be doing silly jumping around with hands straight up when playing. Luckily.

P.s. Majority of the people don't have any taste for the music. Guetta's, [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1738"]Avicii[/url]'s and other commercial crap djs are there to fill their empty hearts with simplistic associations. Most of their audience never really experienced a true clubbing experience.

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[QUOTE=THE_LIGHT;1032696] [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=17"]DJ Sneak[/URL] is merely the first one to say what everyone is thinking. Is anyone actually doubting the truth to Sneak's claim? ] SPOT ON!!!![/QUOTE]

Yes I doubt it. DJ Sneak actually said the same thing about [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]Sasha[/URL] & Digweed a few years back. Your own personal taste is not the barometer that sets the standard. And anyone who believes that playing 6 hours of some ropey throbbing Techno to a few hundred people is some bench mark is seriously deluding themselves.

Most of these DJ's attract a big crowd because people have a good night out when they go to their nights. Most people tend to prefigure music they find Melodic, Emotional & Uplifting and that tends to be the music these resented DJ's play.

And don't get me started on the "underground":)

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[QUOTE=mades;1032735]Everyone inside EDM knows they are actors, videos of them playing pre-recorded sets, etc, .. i had several conversations with a few unnamed respected DJ's about what happened to guys like SHM, Sander K. and so on, how come they completely lost it music-wise. Their usual answer was that they fell into deception of thinking they do it good because everyone around them says so. So they don't actually go and seek for the music which is good but music and effects which most of the crowd according to their surrounding can digest. That's the difference to true underground edm stars: they don't give a phuck about what other people say. Just as JD won't ever be doing silly jumping around with hands straight up when playing. Luckily.

P.s. Majority of the people don't have any taste for the music. Guetta's, [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1738"]Avicii[/URL]'s and other commercial crap djs are there to fill their empty hearts with simplistic associations. Most of their audience never really experienced a true clubbing experience.[/QUOTE]

Jesus this post is pathetic. If you believe anything in this post (not to mention the obvious contradictions) you are a retard

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[QUOTE=chunky;1032799]Jesus this post is pathetic. If you believe anything in this post (not to mention the obvious contradictions) you are a retard[/QUOTE]

In Chunky's defense, he never claimed to be a "nice" guy :lol:.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1032808]In Chunky's defense, he never claimed to be a "nice" guy :lol:.[/QUOTE]

A couple of choice quotes

[QUOTE]Majority of the people don't have any taste for the music.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]the crowd according to their surrounding can digest.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]true underground[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=chunky;1032799]Jesus this post is pathetic. If you believe anything in this post (not to mention the obvious contradictions) you are a retard[/QUOTE]

Dude who peed in your cereal?

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[QUOTE=Troklo;1032815]Dude who peed in your cereal?[/QUOTE]

Generally people who think liking a certain type of music makes them better than anyone else. Music is just entertainment and nothing else. Some people will tell you they are into Forward Thinking, Cuttting Edge music. There is no such thing as Forward Thinking, Cuttting Edge music, its a term coined by bell ends who think their taste in music is superior to someone else's. Quotes like this one

[QUOTE]P.s. Majority of the people don't have any taste for the music. Guetta's, [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1738"]Avicii[/URL]'s and other commercial crap djs are there to fill their empty hearts with simplistic associations. Most of their audience never really experienced a true clubbing experience.[/QUOTE]

A grade

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I agree with Chunky. These guys are doing no more than providing people with a good time and it's working. Good luck to em.

Feel free to stand outside one of their gigs and tell people on their way out they haven't enjoyed a "true club experience" - i'd imagine 20,000 people would say "fuck off you boring bastard"

They are playing the same game as [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]Sasha[/URL], only more people are paying attention.

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Yeah agree with Bob.

End of the day they're having the last laugh.

Which, makes me wonder. What ever happened to Ibiza?

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chunky you can say whatever you want i'm ok with that :) It might be pathetic but sometimes feelings are just like that, pathetic.

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;1032847]Yeah agree with Bob.

End of the day they're having the last laugh.

Which, makes me wonder. What ever happened to Ibiza?[/QUOTE]

ibiza is so overground. that's why kazantip is getting big, among several other smaller, but growing, festivals.

people like the underground. people don't want to go to the club to hear the black eyed fucking peas. they don't want to hear the shit they hear on the radio. it's not special. it's commercialized. it's like old navy to fashion.

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South Africa has recently had Guetta and Deadm8, then last weekend had Iviici and all the radio station DJ;s could talk about was the staging and production dancers and side entertainment.

Yet every concert was sold out and the young crowd loved every minute of the shows. So people are spending money and thats why these guys keep getting bigger.

I wonder if Hernan would get such a big following if he came out here. Probably not because his music is not played every 2 hours on a loop on radio stations.

So the bigger the production = lots of money = success = lots of radio time = bigger productions etc etc

I however dont go to these guys but would travel anywhere in the country to see Hernan.

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But pushing 'commercialism' aside you can still find some amazing DJ's, producers, artists who exist out there. Still having some great nights out seeing local kids pump out some great tunes. Not everyone has their eyes set on money and global stardom.

Well more than anger I feel sorry for the kids of today who have been pressured into believing [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1240"]Steve Angello[/URL] has mixing skills of a god. Well...:what

But... at the end of the day they still have a good time, albeit listening to BEP or [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]David Guetta[/URL] feat. every pop artist imaginable.

Take this scenario, every time I head off to a pub just to catch up for a few pints, the jukebox is always pumping with the most obscure songs. Few drinks later you up with sing-a-longs to Lionel Richie? Still have a kick ass time.

I guess that's how music is. You can't really scrutinies on something that is pretty personal to you or the culture you may associate with.

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And another thing, you got to remember most of the Gen Y+ kids would have no idea who or what Hernan or [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=151"]Deep Dish[/url] are/were.

The times are a changin' we've just got to deal with it I guess.

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Agreed, my mjsic was 80's so our house parties varie from edm to swopping it out for some yazoo, [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=989"]annie[/url] lennox, simple minds and talking heads and go crazy for ages then swing right back into a Hernan set and rave on a different buzz all aver again.

Its what I love, is what I listen to, so i can enjoy the best time, out of the little life I have left !!

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[QUOTE=nick007;1032862]South Africa has recently had Guetta and Deadm8, then last weekend had Iviici and all the radio station DJ;s could talk about was the staging and production dancers and side entertainment.

Yet every concert was sold out and the young crowd loved every minute of the shows. So people are spending money and thats why these guys keep getting bigger.

I wonder if Hernan would get such a big following if he came out here. Probably not because his music is not played every 2 hours on a loop on radio stations.

So the bigger the production = lots of money = success = lots of radio time = bigger productions etc etc

I however don't go to these guys but would travel anywhere in the country to see Hernan.[/QUOTE] Hit nail on head,!! These guys are providing events !! The music is almost secondary. Which is great if that is what you want.

You are probably right about Hernan :(

Chunky, I disagree with you on music being just entertainment. To some of us music it is like food and water,we can't live without it.

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[URL]http://www.mixcloud.com/tag/wmc-2012/[/URL]

^Go through the list of mixes from WMC. [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=447"]Swedish House Mafia[/URL] has in some cases 10 x more listeners than any of the other dj's. Obviously someone wants to listen to them.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1032938][URL="http://www.mixcloud.com/tag/wmc-2012/"][/URL][URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=447"]Swedish House Mafia[/URL] has in some cases 10 x more listeners than any of the other dj's. Obviously someone wants to listen to them.[/QUOTE]

Every one of them doesn't have any taste for the music, they are there to fill their empty hearts with simplistic associations and have never really experienced a true clubbing experience.

My favourite Dom Phillips quote

[QUOTE]The 'Underground' Is An Imaginary Place That Never Actually Existed, Outside The Fantasies Of Boys In Record Shops, A Throw Back To The Punk Days, A Redundant Philosophy. What Matters Now Is The Result, Only That.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1032938][URL]http://www.mixcloud.com/tag/wmc-2012/[/URL]

^Go through the list of mixes from WMC. [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=447"]Swedish House Mafia[/URL] has in some cases 10 x more listeners than any of the other dj's. Obviously someone wants to listen to them.[/QUOTE]

McDonalds has probably served a trillion people by now.

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1032886]Hit nail on head,!! These guys are providing events !! The music is almost secondary. Which is great if that is what you want.

You are probably right about Hernan :(

Chunky, I disagree with you on music being just entertainment. To some of us music it is like food and water,we can't live without it.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. If music is merely entertainment, then what the hell are we doing here talking about fucking vortexes.

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1032981]what the hell are we doing here talking about fucking vortexes.[/QUOTE]

Personally I think the whole vortex thing is stupid, almost as bad as the whole Man Like phrase.

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[quote=88mariner;1032855]ibiza is so overground. That's why kazantip is getting big, among several other smaller, but growing, festivals.

People like the underground. People don't want to go to the club to hear the black eyed fucking peas. They don't want to hear the shit they hear on the radio. It's not special. It's commercialized. It's like old navy to fashion.[/quote]

amen on that bro!!!!!

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[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]88mariner[/B] [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1032855#post1032855"][IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png[/IMG][/URL] ibiza is so overground. That's why kazantip is getting big, among several other smaller, but growing, festivals.

People like the underground. People don't want to go to the club to hear the black eyed fucking peas. They don't want to hear the shit they hear on the radio. It's not special. It's commercialized. It's like old navy to fashion.

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[QUOTE=THE_LIGHT;1033001]amen on that bro!!!!![/QUOTE]

Have either of you two actually been to Ibiza? because it doesn't sound like it.

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:lol:

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[QUOTE=chunky;1032997]Personally I think the whole vortex thing is stupid, almost as bad as the whole Man Like phrase.[/QUOTE]

Angello, is that you??