...mixed by Kaiserdisco
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they could have done better!!!
[ms] · Est. May 2002
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Global Underground #040
114 durable postsStarted 2011-11-09Latest 2012-11-18
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[url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=416"]Kaiserdisco[/url] ???? This is a joke, right ?
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A joke? Felix, anyone?
GU is MOS, the old series is gone.
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knew about Felix.......
I never thought that the joke would continue.
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Who the fuck is [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=416"]Kaiserdisco[/url]? Was Bageldubstep unavailable? What about Croissantfolktunes?
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^ lolz
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I think its time for GOA GIL to step up to the plate
[video=youtube_share;weGblbH4_Mc]http://youtu.be/weGblbH4_Mc[/video]
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Who still buys GU?
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what is a [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=416"]kaiserdisco[/url]?
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[QUOTE=unrecogniseduser;1002824]what is a [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=416"]kaiserdisco[/URL]?[/QUOTE]
thats TomToms place on a saturday nite ;)
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[QUOTE=Haziel;1002785]I think its time for GOA GIL to step up to the plate
[video=youtube_share;weGblbH4_Mc]http://youtu.be/weGblbH4_Mc[/video][/QUOTE]
Fuck. 190 bpm. no human can dance that. :D
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^ only cause he pitched it up +8 like [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]sasha[/url] did with scorchio. danceable? sho nuff.
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GU goes bankruptcy
*Its not official
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[QUOTE=unkle;1002860]Fuck. 190 bpm. no human can dance that. :D[/QUOTE]
and it lasts for about 25 hours
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[QUOTE=feather;1002794]Who still buys GU?[/QUOTE]
I´m buying the old releases. Last week I got Dave Seaman´s - GU Buenos Aires.
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GU Kaiserdisco was epic.
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So what happened to GU ? Change of .. ownership/management/investors or.. I mean their old stuff is really good.
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GU is property of Ministry of Sound. Surprisingly Felix the Housecat and Sultan did not relaunch the label.
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Been building up gaps in my Longbox collection from 024 backwards, had the sasha & diggers ones, but grabbing some of the others.
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Those are keepers. Reprints are often of poor quality.
Sasha - SF has a skip on EVERY edition but the first. Warren - Budapest CD2 has a mysterious background noise in all reprints. The editions included in the two Big Boxes are very poor, even the external cardboard cover is missing. Ugh.
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BTW, I'm selling them.
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I've got all the Digweed & Sasha ones plus New York, Barcelona, Buenos Aires, Brazil, Budapest, Reykjavic.
So just after Athens, Miami & Amsterdam longboxes for now, Romania if its cheap on e-bay.
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I don't think it was the brand that fucked up, it was more to do with the way that music went. The DJ can only play the music that is in front of them and everything stagnated in 2001/02. There will never be another Northern Exposure, GU or mix CD in my lifetime that can superseded them releases from the 90's. The scene moved at such a pace that it suffocated itself in the process. The internet played a big part in that, just like Soundcloud played a part in killing many music forums. That dark plink plonk chugging sound is never going to come close to Liquid Cool or Julika.
Going to a Sasha or Digweed gig now is like going to a Rolling Stones gig, they're remembered for what they where, not what they are. people will go and tell you the night was amazing but I don't think it will be comparable to what they did in the 90s
It was the music that killed GU off, nothing to do with MOS
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[QUOTE=Tan Man;1057212] Going to a Sasha or Digweed gig now is like going to a Rolling Stones gig, they're remembered for what they where, not what they are. people will go and tell you the night was amazing but I don't think it will be comparable to what they did in the 90s[/QUOTE]
Not if you are in your early 20's. You wouldn't know any different. You would however notice that Sasha and/or Digweed weren't playing dubstep, or the music you hear on the radio (at least here). So for someone of that age/experience you would feel like you were at an underground music night. At least in the US you would.
[quote] just like Soundcloud played a part in killing many music forums.[/quote]
which forums?
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Sasha - SF has a skip on EVERY edition but the first.[/QUOTE]
i noticed it only on cd1. u sure?
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[QUOTE=Tan Man;1057212]I don't think it was the brand that fucked up, it was more to do with the way that music went. The DJ can only play the music that is in front of them and everything stagnated in 2001/02. There will never be another Northern Exposure, GU or mix CD in my lifetime that can superseded them releases from the 90's. The scene moved at such a pace that it suffocated itself in the process. The internet played a big part in that, just like Soundcloud played a part in killing many music forums. That dark plink plonk chugging sound is never going to come close to Liquid Cool or Julika.
Going to a Sasha or Digweed gig now is like going to a Rolling Stones gig, they're remembered for what they where, not what they are. people will go and tell you the night was amazing but I don't think it will be comparable to what they did in the 90s
It was the music that killed GU off, nothing to do with MOS[/QUOTE]
No, GU, as run by the two fat boys, stopped existing. As the original Hed Kandi stopped existing. MOS (who released NE, lest we forget), tried to do something with the brand but it didn't work. It's still not clear if GU is on hiatus or what. I bet the Kaiser announcement didn't create much anticipation, dance cds sell [I]thousands [/I]of copies, let's face it.
Balance wasn't killed by zeitgeist (as the NME would call it). Ren released the best comp in years with MANDY and now we hear this pretty shocking press release about Tale Of Us and Warren doing a Sound Garden-type of compilation.
People in charge must care about music, corporative thinking destroyed Kiss Radio too, Radio 1 lost many mainstays.
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[QUOTE=klangfabrik;1057264]i noticed it only on cd1. u sure?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think it was confirmed a while ago here or at Bedrock. That skip exists in every reprint (brigde cover). If Chris is reading this, under one of his aliases, he can confirm that.
Anyway, I'm selling the "Complete GU" boxes, not the longboxes.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1057255] which forums?[/QUOTE]
This one for a start
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[QUOTE=sbando;1057266]No, GU, as run by the two fat boys, stopped existing. As the original Hed Kandi stopped existing. MOS (who released NE, lest we forget), tried to do something with the brand but it didn't work. It's still not clear if GU is on hiatus or what. I bet the Kaiser announcement didn't create much anticipation, dance cds sell [I]thousands [/I]of copies, let's face it. [/QUOTE]
Really, what did they try to do? they asked a DJ to put together a double mix CD that consisted of tracks that they where playing at the time. They weren't strong armed into putting tracks on them mixes, they where only governed by artists that wanted more money than their tracks where worth. Yes they picked some stupid DJ's but that's about it. Sasha & Digweed have had complete control over their mix Cd's in the last 12 years but have either of them superseded any of their releases since the 90's? NO! why.... because they couldn't find 25 tracks that would do it.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1057255]Not if you are in your early 20's. You wouldn't know any different. [/QUOTE]
And if you're in your early 20's you wouldn't want to listen to the music your mum and dad listened to
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[QUOTE=sbando;1057266]
Balance wasn't killed by zeitgeist (as the NME would call it). Ren released the best comp in years with MANDY and now we hear this pretty shocking press release about Tale Of Us and Warren doing a Sound Garden-type of compilation. [/QUOTE]
Some of the Balance releases where OK, Sean Quinn & Phil K where probaby the best. Jimmy Van M's was a big disappointment. If Nick Warren had done a GU at the same time he did a Balance it would have contained the same tracks. The only difference would have been the packaging
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[QUOTE=Tan Man;1057212]I don't think it was the brand that fucked up, it was more to do with the way that music went. The DJ can only play the music that is in front of them and everything stagnated in 2001/02. There will never be another Northern Exposure, GU or mix CD in my lifetime that can superseded them releases from the 90's. The scene moved at such a pace that it suffocated itself in the process. The internet played a big part in that, just like Soundcloud played a part in killing many music forums. That dark plink plonk chugging sound is never going to come close to Liquid Cool or Julika.
Going to a Sasha or Digweed gig now is like going to a Rolling Stones gig, they're remembered for what they where, not what they are. people will go and tell you the night was amazing but I don't think it will be comparable to what they did in the 90s
It was the music that killed GU off, nothing to do with MOS[/QUOTE]
The internet, laptop production, moving away from vinyl and file sharing killed things off, in that you couldn't keep any sort of exclusivity or a sense that the music is new unless you make it all yourself. In the 90's the only way to hear the music being played was in the clubs or via the Essential Mix. Also licensing issues are now a big thing, I bet a lot of labels like to keep things in house or ask for prohibative fees.
But that 96 - 2001 sound has gone, the producers have moved on, just look at Deep Dish. That meshing of NYC, British, Dutch, German, French and Italian sounds isn't there any more ... plus music is now definately global and made on PCs not in studios.
Diggers 2010 EM had that GU thing (inspired by his set at Sankeys) and would have made a great double CD : if he could have got his last fabric set into a double release it would have rivalled his GUs.
Not sure if the music would have sounded as big. Sasha's recent ibiza interview was interesting, he plays of MP3s because WAVs are too big ... a long way from vinyl.
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[COLOR=#d3d3d3] I really think soundcloud has augmented music forums. There still needs to be forums where people can discuss music and get together from across the globe ( as well as nonsense). You wouldn't do that on Soundcloud. But Soundcloud does give forum members (and everyone else) instant access to streaming their favorite artists music. Soundcloud has provided a huge amount of access to all the genres of EDM though, so forums that stick to only one particular type of EDM might be at a loss.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=simonr;1057288]Sasha's recent ibiza interview was interesting[/QUOTE]
any link for the interview please?
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[QUOTE=klangfabrik;1057302]any link for the interview please?[/QUOTE]
It is here, but now marked private :NotMe:
[video=youtube;75QknCjyuhE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75QknCjyuhE[/video]
Its a 2012 Burn Studios interview, and was actually very good in terms of insight.
Part of this:
[url="http://burn-studios.com/news/residency_ibiza_highlights_from_bootcamp_2012"]residency - Highlights from bootcamp 2012 [/url]
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[QUOTE=simonr;1057288] Diggers 2010 EM had that GU thing (inspired by his set at Sankeys) and would have made a great double CD [/QUOTE]
This is still probably my favorite digweed mix of recent times... Wish it was a double CD
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as far as I know they did to bankrupt and the DJs who wanted to release on it paid for it themselves, not sure if this is still happening. The brand really died off, I remember the GU25 party for Deep Dish in Toronto, that was legendary, nothing really amazing has happened since with them...nothing like the old ones!
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1057255]Not if you are in your early 20's. You wouldn't know any different. You would however notice that Sasha and/or Digweed weren't playing dubstep, or the music you hear on the radio (at least here). So for someone of that age/experience you would feel like you were at an underground music night. At least in the US you would. [/QUOTE]
And this is where you are going wrong. The average person at one of them gigs doesn't care about the Underground. You are assuming that the Underground is something people aspire to, it isn't. And as for young people not knowing any better. Young people go out and purchase more music than people in their 30's. When I was in my teens I was doing over 150 gigs a year and buying records on a weekly basis I didn’t need people older than me to guide or tell me what was good or not. Age just isn’t an excuse. I wasn't governed by trends or fashions. Being underground doesn’t mean it’s good.
Do you reckon if you played some teen one of Sasha’s old mix CD’s they would be completely blown away and suddenly start trekking up and down the country going to Sasha gigs? It’s possible but not very likely. The reality is most people like music that is melodic emotional and uplifting. Sasha & Digweed used to play that sort of music in the 90’s, they don’t anymore.
It also goes the other way too. If I was to play Digweed LA CD to people a generation above me, do you think they would be blown away? No they would most likely think it was a pile of shite and that my taste was terrible. I can understand that CD would have no appeal to some people but I don’t feel the need to push it on people.
You only have to look at that BE-AT TV video from yesterday Sasha certainly wasn’t encapsulating the crowd. A crowd almost entirely made up of people in their very late 20’s & 30’s. I mean how many people here on this forum are under 27?