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should WMC dates be extended??

29 durable postsStarted 2004-10-23Latest 2005-01-13
#5853Post 1 of 29

WMC DATES: WHO IS AFFECTED AND HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER

SPACEFEST: DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER WMC MUSIC FESTIVAL?

This year marks the 20th anniversary of WMC which promises to be not only the biggest and best WMC ever but the busiest as well. While the conference has grown 100 times its size in the past 19 years it has not extended its dates to accommodate the masses. For years I have been trying to convince the director of WMC and my very good friend Bill Kelly to extend the WMC dates in order to accommodate the ever growing crowds and attendees. The following is a list of reasons why I believe the WMC dates must be extended. Included is also my bid for adding a second music festival (Spacefest) to the list of WMC events. This decision on my part has caused some unwanted drama, speculation and attention as well as questions that I hope this letter will answer.

A. The Attendees: Too many WMC attendees, too little time. Not everyone can attend the conference the week that is designated by WMC. Attendees can't just take off the week they choose. Having 2 weekends of conference and two festivals allows for more flexibility for people to attend and plan their trips. The flight and hotel rates will also be more affordable if we extended the dates due to the fact that visitors would be more spread out. At present the rates are over priced due to the fact that we are over populated and over booked.

B. The Events: Too many events, too little time. Ibiza lasts for 142 days, WMC only lasts 5 days. It is time to extend this conference! There is no way visitors can attend every event (day and night) and still get to enjoy this beautiful paradise. How many events did you miss last year because you just didn?t have enough time or you just didn?t wake up? There is just not enough time to attend all your events and enjoy the sunshine. People are returning home whiter and pastier then when they arrived. Most don?t even get to see the beaches. Extending the dates will allow attendees to plan their events and have some time off to soak up the sun and beaches. We need more time to enjoy.

C. The DJs: Too many DJs too little time. How many times during WMC did you miss a DJ performing at a club? Don?t you just hate it when two of your favorite DJs are playing on the same night but at two different venues? We need more nights to accommodate our DJs and label parties. The one great thing about Ibiza is that DJs perform weekly. If you miss Morillo at Pacha on Wednesday there is always next Wednesday. If you missed a DJ?s set during conference you missed it until the next year. What about those horrid festival one hour set times? What DJ does not have a complaint regarding their scheduled festival set times? If I only had a dollar for every time a DJ told me, ?I got cheated out of my set time again? or ?I got cut?. Who came up with the one hour set time idea? This craziness needs to stop. DJs need to play at least 2 hours or at least long enough so you can walk from one arena to the other and not miss their set. Give the DJs their due time. They drive to Downtown Miami, look for parking for an hour and fight their way through crowds just to spin for 45 minutes! Spacefest will bring more quality DJs and more quality time. Give the DJs their time.

D. The Expenses: Too much money not enough rewards. WMC is the most expensive music conference anywhere. Extending the conference dates will benefit all involved. Clubs will benefit from the extra nights of income. Attendees will benefit from the lower door covers due to non over crowding. Promoters, booking agents and DJs will benefit from the extra events and gigs. Having 2 festivals during WMC will force door cover and ticket prices to come down benefiting the attendees and the promoters, booking agents and DJs will benefit from the extra gigs and set times. Everyone wins.

E. The South Florida Locals: Not one local attends any WMC event due to the high cover at the doors. As one of my customers put it, "why pay $50 or $60 to see a featured artist when I can see him at Space any time of the year for $20 or $30 without getting mobbed by punters?? Having an extra weekend and festival just before the mobs arrive will allow for the locals to be able to enjoy the best of clubbing and festivals without losing their monthly rent money.

F. The Spring Breakers: This Spacefest event will be directed to the college spring break crowd that is in town the weekend before WMC. This crowd is only here for spring break and never gets the chance to attend WMC events or Ultra. Even if they could attend the events, they cannot afford the expensive Ultra tickets or the admission to WMC night clubs which are 21 and over for all WMC events. Spacefest will be the only chance these kids get to see these artists before they have to go back to school. Ticket price for this event will be $35 and $40.

G. The Charity: Good music for a great cause. Last I would like to remind you that the Spacefest event will be donating proceeds to the Red Cross's hurricane victims program. As you all well know Florida and our neighboring states really got hit hard by a series of hurricanes this summer. This people really need our help. We at Space are dedicated to helping others in their time of need. In the past we raised $25,000 for the 911 victims, sponsored Miami Police Officers to go help out at Ground Zero and collected $24,000 at the Space Labor Day Weekend DJ-Athon for MDA (Muscular Dystrophy) and hurricane victims. We are always looking to give back to our community. This is something that we need to do more of if electronic music if we are to attain the respect of our communities. There is a ton of money being passed around during conference. Let some of it go to help a worthy cause.

In conclusion, I am all for more conferences, more attendees, more events, more DJs, more festivals, more music, more fun and less expenses. If you are with me please email my good friend Bill Kelly at [email]Bill_Kelly@WinterMusicConference.com[/email] and let him know how you feel. See you all at Space or Spacefest or maybe even at the beach?if the dates are extended.

Kindest regards,

LOUIS PUIG OWNER OPERATOR

CLUBSPACE / SPACEFEST

[url]WWW.CLUBSPACE.COM[/url]

SPIRITS NIGHTCLUB

[url]WWW.SPIRITSNIGHTCLUB.COM[/url]

#284288Post 2 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

All I can say is...every year that Ive gone to the conference (flying down from MN) I pray to god theres no spring break the same week. Spring breakers and conference goers dont mix to well as far as im concerned. In fact, Im usually exhausted and ready to leave a few days into it, and from what Ive heard, most the dj's probably couldn't handle more then a week. Last thing I want is to take my week off of work, spend the cash for the conference only to have a weened out dj list. The ability to choose from any dj i want to see in a one week period is the reason i spend the cash.

#284393Post 3 of 29

^^^ yeah true that.. i like that on any given night i can choose between 10 top djs....it sucks when all the ones you want to see play the same night

#284537Post 4 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

It sucks but thats half the conference, sitting in the tellie drinkin brews trying to decide which show to go to for the night, and having the option to leave after an hour, walk down the street and step into another stellar show.

#284538Post 5 of 29

It is only October, jeez.

#287306Post 6 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

they should extend it

its only 4 days this year?

they should make it a week long thing at least...

#287308Post 7 of 29

conference is always 4 days ..parties last 7-10 days

#287311Post 8 of 29

always comes down to the money.....

#287398Post 9 of 29

No way, its long enough as it is. I went last year for the whole week(Fri- Wed) I went out 6 nights in a row and it was more than enough.

#287402Post 10 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

[quote=remoh";p="70134]E. The South Florida Locals: Not one local attends any WMC event due to the high cover at the doors. As one of my customers put it, "why pay $50 or $60 to see a featured artist when I can see him at Space any time of the year for $20 or $30 without getting mobbed by punters?? Having an extra weekend and festival just before the mobs arrive will allow for the locals to be able to enjoy the best of clubbing and festivals without losing their monthly rent money. [/quote] good point. if this thing happened to move to LA, i would want to be able to afford to attend. i have been to WMC and i knew what i was getting into and planned for the added expenses. it is what it is.

[quote=remoh";p="70134]F. The Spring Breakers: This Spacefest event will be directed to the college spring break crowd that is in town the weekend before WMC. This crowd is only here for spring break and never gets the chance to attend WMC events or Ultra. Even if they could attend the events, they cannot afford the expensive Ultra tickets or the admission to WMC night clubs which are 21 and over for all WMC events. Spacefest will be the only chance these kids get to see these artists before they have to go back to school. Ticket price for this event will be $35 and $40.[/quote] BAD point! fuck the spring breakers. fuck them and their girls gone wild antics and bullshit. screw them from taking up club space and fucking up the event for the career clubbers that make a point to be there, not those whom just happen to be there. i ain't got time for frat boyz!

i look forward to WMC 05 and the pizza. there's no pizza like south beach pizza @ 6 AM i tell ya!

#287490Post 11 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

[quote=remoh";p="70134]F. The Spring Breakers: This Spacefest event will be directed to the college spring break crowd that is in town the weekend before WMC. This crowd is only here for spring break and never gets the chance to attend WMC events or Ultra. Even if they could attend the events, they cannot afford the expensive Ultra tickets or the admission to WMC night clubs which are 21 and over for all WMC events. Spacefest will be the only chance these kids get to see these artists before they have to go back to school. Ticket price for this event will be $35 and $40.[/quote] BAD point! fuck the spring breakers. fuck them and their girls gone wild antics and bullshit. screw them from taking up club space and fucking up the event for the career clubbers that make a point to be there, not those whom just happen to be there. i ain't got time for frat boyz!

i look forward to WMC 05 and the pizza. there's no pizza like south beach pizza @ 6 AM i tell ya! [/quote]

yeah fuck frat boys!!!!...the pizza next to crobar is the shizzy!!!! ...the fuc@$##ing 5 dollar hot dogs outside of space got to stop...they are tasty and priceless when you are wasted :Rolling:

#287552Post 12 of 29

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I think 4-5 days of conference is just right. People get worn out by the end. I do agree with this whole spring break thing. This will be my 5th year going and last year was the works with this spring breakers. This is a different world for them. They have no clue what goes on. We need to do it anytime in march when spring break is not happening. PLEASE :WinkNSmi:

#287601Post 13 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

this space guy is pulling this supply and demand crap and in reality no matter how long the thing is, one week or two, the prices are probably going to be the same. If what he said is true sure go ahead fine by me but thats crap.

Oh and I hope that this thing lands on my spring break so I can go to it like the last two years jejejejej

:RockOn: :RockOn:

#287624Post 14 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

What I've always liked about conference is that I could pretty much see every dj I want in less than a week. Yes, it sucks when parties you like conflict but hey, when your biggest problem is deciding whether to see insanely good dj #1 vs. #2 then there really isn't much to complain about.

Stretching the conference out won't work for a lot of reasons and I highly doubt that the cover charges would drop significantly even if this did happen. It'd be just another opportunity for big clubs to make even more $.

#287645Post 15 of 29

who gives a fuck about spring breakers. you guys should be paying attention to the dj's not the doosh bag wearing ambercrombie khakki shorts and flip flops. i went this year and dont remember any issues regarding idiots (spring break yuppies). we had nothing but a great friggin time. and i say the more the merry-er. :lol:

#287749Post 16 of 29

[quote=Jibgolly";p="71014] not the doosh bag wearing ambercrombie khakki shorts[/quote] There goes that sponsor.

#287773Post 17 of 29

[quote=remoh";p="70643]conference is always 4 days ..parties last 7-10 days[/quote]

4 DAYS? 22, 23, 24, 25, 26.. looks like 5 to me. last year was the 6th - 10th .. 5 days again.. see the trend here? lol

but yes, the parties last for the whole week, and the hangover last another week. :D

#288332Post 18 of 29

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wmc should last all year!!! :D :RockOn:

#288729Post 19 of 29

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I'm kinda hoping it is during spring break this year. Then I might actually be able to attend WMC. I know there are thousands of college students that would love to attend WMC but can't because of school. And what's the problem with girls going wild? Could do without the frat boys though. :lol:

#332033Post 20 of 29

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i havent been to south beach in 3 years i need to go back

#332114Post 21 of 29

i kinda hope it doesn't coincide with spring break. the last thing i want is a bunch of fucking frat turds in miami.

it shouldn't be longer either. perfect amount of time, if not too long. your brain can only handle so much carnage.

#337723Post 22 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

spring break and the conference does not mix. it gets ugly with all those guidos filling up the clubs.

i think they should move it to vegas. miami has really slipped in my opionon lately. especially the last two years, seems like ever since p-diddy put south beach in his videos, miami has gotten pretty ghetto.

maybe im wrong but vegas would be fun. wmc and casinos, perfect fit.

#337796Post 23 of 29

we don't need 40,000 separate episodes of Fear & Loathing in the same weekend. I'd say the beach is the perfect place for it

#337932Post 24 of 29

[quote=picklemonkey]we don't need 40,000 separate episodes of Fear & Loathing in the same weekend. I'd say the beach is the perfect place for it[/quote]

what are you talking about? that's the whole idea!

#337935Post 25 of 29

[quote=devon] what are you talking about? that's the whole idea![/quote] Not for everyone. I plan on having some drinks and enjoying the music. In no way, shape, or form do I want to be completely obliterated the entire weekend so that I can't remember what to write about when I get back. I don't want to look at pictures and wonder, "Oh wow, I met so-and-so right there?" or "Huh, I was at that party?" etc, etc, etc.

#338039Post 26 of 29

^ :Bingo:

#339061Post 27 of 29

Re: should WMC dates be extended??

yeah it should be

#339102Post 28 of 29

[quote=skahound][quote=devon] what are you talking about? that's the whole idea![/quote] Not for everyone. I plan on having some drinks and enjoying the music. In no way, shape, or form do I want to be completely obliterated the entire weekend so that I can't remember what to write about when I get back. I don't want to look at pictures and wonder, "Oh wow, I met so-and-so right there?" or "Huh, I was at that party?" etc, etc, etc.[/quote]

send me your notes, because im going to need them.

#339112Post 29 of 29

[quote=devon] send me your notes, because im going to need them.[/quote] Don't worry, pictures and stories will be posted on here.

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