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ok, big debate now for technology to be use as ref assistance. I'm against it. maybe if they add a ref. behind each goal, if they see something raise a flag

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human error, even if by the referees, is a big part of this sport, introducing technology to review plays will kill the sport, imo

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congrats to Germany.. all this talk about how young they are needs to stop though, they all (mostly) play on top european clubs, don't make it out like they've never played in high pressure matches

I'm not at all saying the outcome would have been different had that goal been ruled correctly, but fucks sake FIFA needs to have a look at what's going on here

1. France gets in to the tournament through a blatant hand ball, which had it been caught would not only have disallowed the goal, but would have at least been a yellow card

2. USA gets screwed out of two goals for no reason whatsoever other than bad officiating, or, "human error"

3. England loses a goal that was easy 3 feet behind the line, with the linesman looking directly at the goal

4. Tevez scores a goal when he is at least 2 yards offside

5. Chile gets a man sent off when contact with Torres (if there was any at all) was clearly incidental

I don't know if it needs to be video replay, another official, or utilise the fourth official for something else beside holding up a fucking sign with numbers on it

Again, Germany were obviously the better team, but you have to wonder how different the match could have been if it got to 2-2

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it would have been 4-2 instead of 4-1 ?????? :)

Despite all those very valid points, i'm still not keen to have video replay introduced. I think its a slippery slope to stopping the flow of the game. Someone, somewhere, suggested having an extra linesman for goal line duty only in major tournaments - i personally would prefer that option.

It was pretty outrageous that the goal was missed, it wasn't even close (like the US goal), or at high speed (like the French handball).

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I'm just saying, the complexion of the game changes.. after that goal we immediately came back down and hit the cross bar.. we wouldn't have been pressing to come back from 2 or 3 goals down, and the counter MAY NOT have been as effective.. not making excuses, Germany exploited the lack of shape and made us pay dearly, as I would expect them to

I'm not a fan of out and out replay either, which is why I suggested utilising the extra official

or, they already have camera in the nets.. why not use them

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Go GERMANY!!!! for the sole reason that I'm sick and tired of seeing fat maradona molest everyone on the side lines

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[QUOTE=Steve Graham;872312]I'm just saying, the complexion of the game changes.. after that goal we immediately came back down and hit the cross bar.. we wouldn't have been pressing to come back from 2 or 3 goals down, and the counter MAY NOT have been as effective.. not making excuses, Germany exploited the lack of shape and made us pay dearly, as I would expect them to

I'm not a fan of out and out replay either, which is why I suggested utilising the extra official

or, they already have camera in the nets.. why not use them[/QUOTE]

It could all have been different but... really... not trying to piss anyone off or anything, because I love English football, so I´m almost as disappointed as any other England fan, still I think some things have to be said :

1. Rooney didn´t show up in South Africa.

2. Who the f*** is Heskey??

3. I´m sorry, but who the f*** is Barry and why insist on him coming from injury when you have Carrick?? The guy had no rhythm and pace at all, it´s like he was playing a different game all along!

4. Even if that Lampard shot had counted, c´mon, England´s defense was miserable! A goal from a goal kick straight into Klose? Amateurish! 3 goals where opposing strikers appear completely unmarked dropping in from the flanks? Terrible.

5. In what state is English national football, to get to a point where a guy like Beckham is kind of a moral reserve? Why was that douchebag on the bench? Please don´t tell me that BECKHAM, I repeat BECKHAM, was supposed to be there to inspire the others?? To be looked up to?? Nigga please...

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oh trust me, England have a lot more problems than a goal that was not given, I'm not that naive to think anything but that

Rooney I think is still not 100% after his ankle injury, and is playing out of position

Lampard and Gerrard can NOT coexist, I have been saying this and still believe it

We are no where near as good as a "team" as we are on club level with our domestic clubs

We still are in search of a true number 1 (James is nothing more than a band aid whilst we look for one)

1st goal aside, very amateurish, when you're pressing for goals, there are going to be massive gaps and the counter was played to perfection, but even still we looked old and slow

Beckham being there was a joke, lol

All this showed is there are major holes to fill ASAP.. there are really no players on that squad that strike fear into the hearts of any opponent

Lennon, Milner, SWP etc.. decent at club level, no where near talented enough to compete with the worlds best

Lampard, Gerrard, Terry.. by next world cup will be past their prime

Still no goalie that I feel 100% confident on putting out there, hopefully Green or Hart can step up before Euro 2012, or soeone else will come out of the wood work, or maybe we can get a U.S. keeper to change citizenship :-\

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[QUOTE=Steve Graham;872325] We are no where near as good as a "team" as we are on club level with our domestic clubs

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Whose stars are mostly foreign players...

English football has gone from a point where there were almost no foreign players, to a point where there are too many.

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man, the Slovakian keeper just made a sweet save with his face

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I was expecting something more from England since the first game... Was a terrible WC not only as a team but their stars individually... Rooney playing like this, injuried or not, says it all... Before the WC get started we all thought about Rooney being one of the most important players of this tournament, one the best players in the world.. Harmless throughout the tournament

Germany destroyed the weak british defense and goalie, with Ozil (one of the best players so far) and Muller on fire...

Referees are a fucking disgrace, they can not have this huge mistakes.. Usa, England, Argentina, Chile.. You never know how things would go if those stupids do their job correctly...

GO ARGENTINA next Saturday! :RockOn:

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Predictions?

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Brazil!!

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Chile is my 2nd team for this WC, so I´m rooting for them to win, but I´d say it´s 60/40 in Brazil´s favour...

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Here you can see CLEARLY the ball wasn't in. :lol: Wembley reloaded FTW!

[QUOTE=ace_dl;872108]Just wondering how much different the game would be if that stupid referee could see the ball was inside ...

Good luck to ze Germans[/QUOTE]

Was asked ourselves the same question yesterday. My mates and I would have prefered to win the Game without this Referee bullshit - be it alone to avoid the discussions about what could have happened. I seriously doubt a 2:2 would have changed things dramatically. Germany was just the better team yesterday. Period. Not saying Germany is better than England but yesterday we were - from defense to offense. Germany has controlled the Game besides the 15 minutes phase from England in the beginning of the 2nd half. Winning against England is always odd....of course I do not want us to be beaten but I also like to see the English team playing and I know they can do much more than they showed yesterday, though I thought it was their best appearance in this Tournament.

Now I am waiting for the next mini-final against Argentina. :) We'll see what our team can do against a technically top notch team and after the Game against England, I am not afraid at all anymore. We have the abilities to win this but even if we loose, we can leave without regrets.

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I could never see why we were being talked about as tournament favourites. What was this based on? Qualifying from an easy group and scoring the most goals? Pfft. Spain spanked us in a friendly.. that said it all for me. Overrated under achievers !

The second goal we scored could have changed the game even though Germany were far the better team. If any team looses a 2 goal lead it is bound to affect their nerve. We'll never know though.

For all the none believers, the 66 goal was in too ;)

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^^ no way! :twisted: Without this Goal, the Game would have ended differently...sounds somehow known to the English fans now? :) You have heard it from us since half a century already, next half Century is all yours guys. :lol: BTW, does anybody have scans/links to actual English Yellow press "articles"? Would like to see their "approach" on it lol.

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It's depressing

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I just heard there has been a weather warning here in England. We should expect a shower of shit coming in from South Africa in the next day or two.

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Nice start from Brazil... :shock:

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[IMG]http://images3.photomania.com/361838/1/rad7D8D0.gif[/IMG] Heinze vs The Camera.

Heinze Wins. Fatality :p

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What a sourprise! Brazil 2 and Chile 0!!!

:lol: Almost unbeatable IMO

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nice goals from Brazil

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[QUOTE=MJ;872373]I could never see why we were being talked about as tournament favourites. What was this based on? Qualifying from an easy group and scoring the most goals? Pfft. Spain spanked us in a friendly.. that said it all for me. Overrated under achievers !

The second goal we scored could have changed the game even though Germany were far the better team. If any team looses a 2 goal lead it is bound to affect their nerve. We'll never know though.

For all the none believers, the 66 goal was in too ;)[/QUOTE]

based on the media wanting to build up a team and then rip it to bits as soon as possible.. we always hope, but we always know in our hearts we have a long long way to go before we can truly have a chance to win a major trophy.. watching Holland and Brazil today, jesus, they are head and shoulders above us and most of the teams left.. besides Spain, they're last match they looked great.. and talk about no shows, Torres isn't doing a whole lot either

Rooney [B]is[/B] a great player, he was double and triple teamed every time he was on the ball, but he can't do it on his own, he had fuck all for service due to our very average mid field, unfortunately, besides getting in on the defensive duties he isn't the same type of player as Messi who can take over a match and contribute in other ways, who though he hasn't scored he has had a massive impact on every match.. still will NOT root for Argentina lol

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[QUOTE=TomTom;872375]^^ no way! :twisted: Without this Goal, the Game would have ended differently...sounds somehow known to the English fans now? :) You have heard it from us since half a century already, next half Century is all yours guys. :lol: BTW, does anybody have scans/links to actual English Yellow press "articles"? Would like to see their "approach" on it lol.[/QUOTE]

of course it could have been different, playing at 2-2 is completely different than 2-1 or 3-1 Germany were the better team, it's just unfortunate this is even a discussion on so many of these matches with bad calls... Ger v Arg will be a great match, and I will be pulling for Germany!

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Compare Rooney against Messi was the mistake in the first place... Personally never had doubts on which one is better.. Rooney is a good player, very good if you ask, but Messi is competing for a spot on the next level, be the best player ever.. We have our first massive game this Saturday against the Germans.. All my hopes are on Messi and what he can do by himself and for Higuain and Tevez... We need him on the best form if we pretend to beat the German, most solid team with Brazil so far...

To be honest, if we must go back home, Germany is one of those teams which can beat you up so, i am ready for what is next

ARGENTINAA!!! :RockOn:

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[QUOTE=MJ;872386]It's depressing

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i think its about time ur english media/fans and comentators etc took it on the chin like scotland has for years, you are not a world beating team and havnt been for quite some time but the way u guys talk about games etc b4 u actually play them doesnt and never has compared to ur teams actual performance, you guys have some good player and a good league but when it comes down to it you just cant perform as a team when it matters.

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;872446]i think its about time ur english media/fans and comentators etc took it on the chin like scotland has for years, you are not a world beating team and havnt been for quite some time but the way u guys talk about games etc b4 u actually play them doesnt and never has compared to ur teams actual performance, you guys have some good player and a good league but when it comes down to it you just cant perform as a team when it matters.[/QUOTE]

At the prospect of sounding ignorant, which I aren't, Scotland have no choice but to take it on the chin. They simply don't have enough quality players to qualify for major events in the first place, I'm sure Huggie will agree. England do have quality players in every department that are good enough to get us to tournaments like the world cup.. most of the time :lol: We just fail when we get there!

To be fair to most pundits and commentators on tv I think a lot of them talk sense, it's the news papers that actually report the pipe dream that we can win it. Take the BBC for instance, I'm a big fan of their coverage of any sporting occasion, particularly football and as far as I know not one of the pundits had England down to win. I have no idea what the muppets on ITV were saying as I never watched a build up on their channel.

As for the papers, I'm sure you've been told a million times, never believe what you read, it's all just tosh!

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[QUOTE=MJ;872464]At the prospect of sounding ignorant, which I aren't, Scotland have no choice but to take it on the chin. They simply don't have enough quality players to qualify for major events in the first place, I'm sure Huggie will agree. England do have quality players in every department that are good enough to get us to tournaments like the world cup.. most of the time :lol: We just fail when we get there!

To be fair to most pundits and commentators on tv I think a lot of them talk sense, it's the news papers that actually report the pipe dream that we can win it. Take the BBC for instance, I'm a big fan of their coverage of any sporting occasion, particularly football and as far as I know not one of the pundits had England down to win. I have no idea what the muppets on ITV were saying as I never watched a build up on their channel.

As for the papers, I'm sure you've been told a million times, never believe what you read, it's all just tosh![/QUOTE]

i agree appart from one point.....i think the commentators are exreemly bias towards england because most of them have played for england in the past or are part of the enlish "scene", you may think they talk sense because u are picking up on that bias but as an outsider i just see then as talking shit lol (again like urself without trying to sound arrogant)

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[QUOTE=MJ;872464]At the prospect of sounding ignorant, which I aren't, Scotland have no choice but to take it on the chin. They simply don't have enough quality players to qualify for major events in the first place, I'm sure Huggie will agree. England do have quality players in every department that are good enough to get us to tournaments like the world cup.. most of the time :lol: We just fail when we get there!

To be fair to most pundits and commentators on tv I think a lot of them talk sense, it's the news papers that actually report the pipe dream that we can win it. Take the BBC for instance, I'm a big fan of their coverage of any sporting occasion, particularly football and as far as I know not one of the pundits had England down to win. I have no idea what the muppets on ITV were saying as I never watched a build up on their channel.

As for the papers, I'm sure you've been told a million times, never believe what you read, it's all just tosh![/QUOTE]

Scotland should have qualified having beat France home and away- its then they lose to The Faroe Islands or some such mino (spell?) !!! Scotland have always been about the passion and not so much the skill!!

However, its the arrogance of the English media that winds up most people.

A good game is a good game no matter who is playing. That's why we all still follow the world cup even after our teams are out (or never make it!)

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;872473]i agree appart from one point.....i think the commentators are exreemly bias towards england because most of them have played for england in the past or are part of the enlish "scene", you may think they talk sense because u are picking up on that bias but as an outsider i just see then as talking shit lol (again like urself without trying to sound arrogant)[/QUOTE]

There was no biased towards us at all, infact, one of the main pundits on the BBC is actually Scottish and he slated us to death after most of our games. Alan Shearer and Lee Dixon said very much the same. Like I said, not one of them had England down to win the world cup, even before it started.

Personally I never thought for one minute we could win, hence my comment earlier about us being one of the favourites. The papers are where you should be concentrating your energies, we all know they talk shit !

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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;872474]Scotland should have qualified having beat France home and away- its then they lose to The Faroe Islands or some such mino (spell?) !!! Scotland have always been about the passion and not so much the skill!![/QUOTE]

I find that hard to believe seeing as though they were in the group with Holland, Norway, Macedonia and Iceland. Even so, my local Sunday pub team could have beaten France at the world cup, they were abysmal.

I'd like to think the English show a lot of passion too, it was a shame it was only the fans showing it. :lol:

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{re: France home and away - I was referring to the Euro 2008 qualifiers - not that it matters!
it was still the first time in 50 years or something ridiculous!!}

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[QUOTE=arielus;872397] Heinze vs The Camera.

Heinze Wins. Fatality :p[/QUOTE] He hits the camera with his face and then smacks it? Way to show some professionalism and class Heinze.

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/futbol, needs to modernize. srsly, every supersport here is inudated with replay, and -- though it is a bust at times -- replay is much more thorough than the weak officiating of fifa will ever be (yes, officiating still blows ass more than ever here).

what a profoundly different tourney this might have been, had it been called with exactitude (yeah, of course it's not over yet, but, derp derp...). anyways, it does not matter, but how unfortunate for the sport, today, in general :lol: