If it weren't bad enough that the Rams have the worst team in football -- believe it or not, their 0-4 record would actually suggest that they are [I]better [/I]than they are -- now Rush Limbaugh is making a bid to buy the team. I'm having a hard enough time supporting them as they are, but that might well render it impossible. It's bad enough that Rush is from my state -- if this goes through, he'll be connected in a significant way to my city. Not good.

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[url]http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/bryanburwell/story/E196145D80764B2F86257648000EF26B?OpenDocument[/url]

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poor rams, i really wanna see them rise, but under limbaugh... no way!

[QUOTE]Those are Limbaugh's words. So are these:

"I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: Slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back. I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."[/QUOTE]wtf...

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The columnist hit it on the head, IMO -- politics are one thing, but Limbaugh's antics go beyond mere political disagreement. Not the face I want for my local team.

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toasty you can find any reason to bash republicans...hahaha

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Dang, i'm going to have to disagree with you here Toasty. OMG!!! lol.

Rush isn't my first choice, but at this point I'm hoping for anyone with an solid interest, and he's interested. He's local. He loves football. He's freaking filthy rich. He'll keep the team here. He wants the team to succeed. Politics aside, the guy is a marketing genius, which the Rams could desperately use. Plus it's a partnership with Dave Checkets who is super awesome and who turned the Blues around. I think it's 100% win if Rush gets involved...i don't mix politics with football, so this is a non-issue to me. I'm sure Jerry Jones is a huge republican douchebag too, but i'll bet Dallas doesn't care.

Btw, Burwell is the worst "journalist" in the city, I can't stand that ass kisser.

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well, I had formed my opinion before I read Burwell's column, he just happened to come up with some specific examples of the sort of comments that will become associated with our hometown if Rush gets on board.

I suppose part of it is that I'm a Chiefs fan first and foremost, and while I root for the Rams, I don't really think of them as my team. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest problem with the team leaving is that we'd never get another chance, having lost two franchises, and I'm enough of a football fan that that would really bum me out.

I'm sure most owners are republicans, so it's definitely not that for me. It's the fact that I just think he's a loathsome person.

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the rams might finally win a game with the new ownership. Go Rush!

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[QUOTE=toasty;795922]

I suppose part of it is that I'm a Chiefs fan first and foremost....[/QUOTE]

enough said. ;)

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i hate mark cuban but think he did a phenominal job shaping up the shitty mavs.... partly because he is filthy rich and gave the players what they need. so you never know!

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I'm sure most owners are republicans, so it's definitely not that for me. It's the fact that I just think he's a loathsome person.[/QUOTE]

i agree, rush is a loathsome person, but i don't go to games and wonder what the owner is up to. not once did georgia frontierre, or whatever her name was, ever enter my mind when the superbowl rams team took the field...greatest show on turf. remember those days? i want it back, and if rush can do it, bring it.

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The thing is, though, most NFL owners are pretty much in the background. The ones that you know, well it's either very good or very bad. When I think of the Oakland Raiders, I think of Al Davis, and suffice it to say, my thoughts aren't particularly flattering to the city of Oakland. Maybe that's completely unfair, but that's reality. I'd hate for people to think of St Louis as "Rush Limbaugh's town."

At least Checketts is in the mix as well.

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New sign of the apocalypse: Edwards Jones Dome get's renamed Oxyco Dome

:lol:

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Good for Rush. That team may go 0 and 16 this year so its a good thing with new ownership.

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...and now my concerns have come to fruition (I kinda sound like runningman there): some NFL players have indicated that they would not play for a Limbaugh-owned team. If his ownership starts to shrink the pool of available talent, then you can't really just say "politics is politics, football is football, and never the two shall twain" and leave it at that, because clearly the people that matter -- the players -- view them as connected.

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^what article did you read that in? or was it on espn?

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I'm calling bullshit on nfl players. NFL players favorite color is green. They'll all take the highest dollar.

Rush isn't the owner btw, he's one fraction of several investors in a group, just one more thing that the media is misreporting. The only two of the invesment group that have been leaked have been Rush and Checketts, there are multiple others involved. Burwell from the St. Louis Post Disgrace has straight up been lying by taking false quotes about some of the stuff Rush supposedly said, and national media, the fucking idiots they are have been quoting that from Burwell....and now Limbaugh is going after each quote wanting the source because he's saying prove it, because he never said a lot of the racist things that are being misquoted about him. This whole thing is being completely blown out of proportion, and now you've got the two biggest racists on the planet involved making comments... Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton...great. :roll: The NFL players association guy that spoke on behalf of NFL players is wreaking of hipocracy. Rush's right hand man on his radio show for years btw...is black...and yet "journalists" are calling Rush a bigot? I don't like Rush [U]at all[/U], but this whole thing is getting beyond ridiculous against him.

If we're going to go after a single person of an investment group for his political beliefs, then are we going to hold all owners accountable for their political beliefs? Dan Rooney was a die hard conservative until Obama ran for president then he changed sides and supported him, now he's ambassador to Ireland...let's pick on him and ridicule his political beliefs. Let's yank loud mouth Jerry Jones aside and question his big oil lobby money and his political beliefs. Ridiculous. It's football. I'd be willing to bet the majority of NFL owners are conservatives, they just don't have a radio show platform and aren't speaking out....and it shouldn't matter anyway.

What Rush said about Donavan McNabb was true, tough for people to swallow and maybe doesn't need to be broadcasted on national television, but a black Philly reporter even came out afterward and confirmed it to be true that he often wrote positive articles about McNabb even when he played horribly just to shed positive light on black Quarterbacks. The crew at ESPN all agreed with Rush when he said it out loud...it wasn't until the rainbow coalition and other race-baiting media hogs started raising a stink that everyone changed their tune.

I wish the media would grow a pair of balls one day. This is a huge non-issue and the fact that it's in the news and being made a big deal out of to begin with is just one of the things i hate about america.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;797326]If we're going to go after a single person of an investment group for his political beliefs, then are we going to hold all owners accountable for their political beliefs? [/QUOTE]

Personally, I'm not against Rush on account of his political beliefs, I'm against him because he's an epic dickhead; it just so happens that that is typically expressed in the political realm. If Al Davis or Spencer Pratt or Sean Penn wanted to buy the Rams, I'd probably be equally bummed.

It doesn't really matter if he's just a minority share holder, because we all know that perception is often more important than reality, and if the general public start viewing the Rams as "Rush's team," that bugs me. Perhaps more importantly, however, if NFL players view it as Rush's team and view St. Louis as a team that they don't want to play for, that's not good for the team, regardless of what we may think of their thought process to reach that conclusion.

I hear so many people say, "this is a business deal, we shouldn't care," but business does not exist in a vacuum. He does a great job marketing himself to a very specific group and has been very successful in that regard, but if he were to open up Rush Limbaugh's Pizza Palace in Boston, New York and San Fran, you've got to know that he could bake the most delicious pie that mankind has ever seen, and there's going to be a significant chunk of the population that would still avoid it like the plague on general principle.

Notwithstanding that I'm primarily a Chiefs fan, I do pull for the Rams as well and want to see them succeed, both as a fan and for the sake of City. The shit storm that has ushered in the news that he might be part of an ownership group is, for me, evidence that he's a net negative from a business standpoint and unlikely to lead to enhanced success for our team. You and I may realize that all he's going to do is write (and cash) checks, but I don't think that really matters anymore.

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We lost the football cardinals...and i don't want to lose the rams. I'm not seeing anyone else lining up to buy the Rams and keep them in STL, unless the NFL wants to change the rules and let Cronkie buy them. There are several other areas (LA) that could probably put together a group to move the team to their city. If we lose the Rams, and it's likely in 2015 if we don't have a rich ownership group in place, we will never have another NFL team, (not to mention my property value would drop having a big empty useless dome a stones throw from my loft, lol, selfish i know.) The negativity snowball has already started rolling thanks to a lot of misinformation and a few knee jerk reactions (that's not to say i don't agree that Rush is a dick...i do, i just don't care.) I just think none of this had to happen, because wether we like someone or not shouldn't be a prerequisite for owning an NFL team. I'd rather Rush own a fraction of the team than have no team.

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[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-limbaugh101309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns[/URL]

Seems to be in motion to block him anyway.

Goodell saying the NFL, we hold ourselves to a high standard = LOL.

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^^that article sorta sums up my position on it, to some extent. You can't make your living off of being a complete prick to 50% of the populace and then demand that they forget about all of that when you want to diversify.

There is some irony in all of this, actually -- his unique brand of venom has made him an enormous fortune, enough to be a part owner of a professional sports team. It is also what will ensure that he doesn't get that opportunity. What's more, we know it isn't about his politics, because the overwhelming majority of NFL owners are probably very conservative themselves -- it's that they don't want to be associated with the persona he's created for himself.

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And, it's over, but Checketts is still in the mix, just without Limbaugh. Perfect outcome, IMO.

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4559454[/url]

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indeed, as long as it goes through without Limbaugh's $$. 8)